Many people gets the concept wrong, gyro locks rotational axises but does nothing to prevent motion in translational axises. Thus a gyro regardless of how many axis will never levitate, it's true that it may seem to defy gravity by not toppling, but this is only a counteracting moment preventing "falling over", it always requires a vertical support to counteract gravity.
I was thinking the same way but what happens if the 3 gyro are pulsating back and forth along their axis of rotation. A push from outside from a random direction, a force, is not instant, it applies in time. In that finite time the 3 axis of rotation are translating due to pulsations so the action of the force translates into a torque which in turn invokes the gyro precession action. Wouldn't this work? I would expect to resist the external force and remain in space.
"Apparatus for Gyroscopic Propulsion Explained" Apparatus - yes Gyroscopic - yes Propulsion - no, no propulsion here. Explained - absolutely not! you showed how it's built, but not how it works or what it does.
erasmusso exactly, this guy gets more than 600 000 views for explaining how 3 rings spin perpendicular to eachother and talking about the materials they're made from...
I'm with you ... I heard NO PROPULSION explained, WHATSOEVER ... !!!!! VERY AGGRAVATING ... thinking you're going to "get something", and then ... YOU DON'T ... !!!!! 😡😡😡
Imagination you Lack. So with this device you want Propulsion? I suggest building a Replication you control it with 555Timer chip, and interface this with "Ionic Propulsion"(High Voltage Wind{seen at Spark Gap}) shown in "Tin Foil Flyer/lifter" video's on "You-tube".
That's not a scientific theory its just a mechanical thought that by common sense has no function waist of time waist of money the third center ring won't do any thing the rings being made of different metals means nothing the second and third ring being different diamators will make it wobble
I always wondered if Ezekiel's description of a "wheel within a wheel" propulsion system would be like a gyroscope that contained two wheels, one within the other properly counterbalanced, that went in opposite directions.
albert miller "Forever learning but never coming to truth" - the apostle Paul. Don't just question, come to a conclusion based on evidence, and why question what is common sense?! Question is 1 + 1 = 2? No, question what matters.
Anon Mouse You recite the bible in a conversation on truth? I mean it had it's relative truths but come on man, that's a logical fallacy in itself, not evidence.
I'll look up the patent number!!! I think I've seen this before. If I'm not mistaken this is an electrogravitic thruster used to create a quantum field bubble. It seems simple and straight forward but the challenge would be in creating the power supply and control systems for it and in mounting a crew cabin or cargo bay or payload if it is to be weaponized for military applications.
So did you build it yet? and test it yet? If so, what were the results? I would think that it would keep everything rock solid stationary. If you were in a moving vehicle and you started your device, my guess is you could turn off the engine of your vehicle and it would coast much longer then normal. Please reply, with answers. ty! Dr J and Team World Improvement
This resembles a Kinetic Field Drive, but it doesn't rotate freely, there is no collection plate, so no field can be generated and thus no magnetic fields to syphon out. With a crystalline internal component within the core of a similar model to this, placed in the center of a KFD, you were have what you call "Gyroscopic Propulsion". Beyond this, the energy applied would only allow for the transference of energy and help to stabilize motion rather then be the source of it. I found it to be quite interesting however, and the digital diagram was quite interesting.
I don't know how the patent office would even permit an application of something that has been around since the beginning of time. To patent a gyroscope is to patent going to the bathroom.
This would work. Absolutely brilliant. Most people do not understand what gyroscopic forces do when it comes to mass and expression of energy. For instance If i took a barbell from a bench press machine and slid a 45 pound plate on one end of the barbell and fastened it to the end so it could not come off there would be no way for me or really anyone to pick up that barbell with the plate on one end at the farthest side of the barbell. And even if i picked it up with one arm i could not swing it around my head like a sword or baseball bat, the weight would be to great and the forces of gravity would not permit me to swing such a mass. But if i had the same barbell with a 45 pound plate on the far side but this time i used a motor to spin the 45 pound bar bell to around 35,000 rpm then once the 45 lb plate is in motion the gyroscopic effect it would have on the plate would be so great that i would not only be able to pick up the barbell and 45 pound plate with ease but i could lift it over my head and spin it around with one arm. Now thats just gyroscopic force on the +y and -y axis's acting perpendicular to the barbell on the horizontal -x and +x axis's. You're device would act on the +x -x & +y -y & +z -z axis's thus covering all areas of spacial force expression. And thus all areas of space/time around this device driven by the three rings composed of different masses to equalize the difference in sizes to make smaller heavier rings and larger lighter rings would ingeniously express the centrifugal velocities equally from the center of mass in the middle acting on all three axis's and thus would literally cancel out the objects mass completely. Thus defying or acting against the forces of Gravity working against the device. Great work this should be fabricated and put to the test!
If the mass to angular momentum of all 3 components is infinitely equivalent, it will be infinitely stable but not free of its own mass. Particularly if it's housed inside of a further installation, the housing still has its own mass. Its total rotational axis would be unchanging but whatever larger mass it's drawn to will still draw it in. It's not like you're climbing a gravitational slope on the power of gyroscopic angular momentum alone. Unless I have a fundamental misunderstanding of event horizons and their relationship with positive/negative angular momentum.
When I was deeply involved in inventing during my inventing years, I encountered the same conclusion as he states at timing 0:50 in this video. There are currently no equations that apply to this effect. :)
The design I came up with some years back was to create a more pronounced drive effect by using four separate thrusters. By building them separately this keeps the costs way down. It also makes the device much easier to construct, and to replace when they wear out. Wear is going to be a major part of the use of these thrusters when they hit the aerospace market (if they ever do). And no, I did not patent my design because when a person patents something, he has to make his design public, which I will not do until I receive a decent payment up front. When I privately spoke with Maurice Ward, the inventor of the only known substance that can withstand the heat of a 10,000 degree thermonuclear blast, he told me a defense contractor tried to steal his Starlite sample. This created such distrust, that Maurice flew back to England and cut off all negotiations on selling his amazing Starlite material.
Can't say i liked Mr.Ward 1 bit. His secret formula got blatantly stolen a few times. Good! there is no room in this game for greedy fuckers. Either u want to change the world for the better, or u dont. Considering he was 1 of my countrymen, im appalled by his behaviour. It wasn't the fact that someone in the americas wanted to steal it.. its the unfortunate mindset of a greedy alchemist who wanted billions for something 80% organic & made from hair products.... and still maintain over 50% profits of everything, including its controlled applications. He thought that this control would open up further secrets of other composite materials to himself through various organisations. Totally unrealistic expectations in business and the inventors world. Cutting it short, the man was an insatiable cunt. Hope this helps in clearing up this man's personality and greedy mindset. Never underestimate the most softest spoken person when it comes to MONEY!. Now hes dead and its on lockdown.. hahahaaa. Yes what a marvelous man. (sarcasm)
Rockguitarnow Just because you and Ray Tippett don't know the math, does not mean that the math doesn't exist. Describing the gyroscopic pressession phenomenon is acrually quite trivial; if, that is, you understand Newton, despite Ray's claims to the contrary in his patent. Besids, the math is not the phenomenon. Math is only a model for the natural phenomena that we have been able to assign mathematic models to. All the concepts Newton taught us can be described without math. The math allows us to quantify things so we can calculate what we want to happen without actually having the objects themselves. This is sort of the definition of Engineering. Cheers, ScienceAdvisorSteve
@@Observ45er hey you sound like you know what you are talking about maybe you know more physics than i do. So can you please tell me if the set up in the video will work or generate some lifte or thrust???? And why please...thank you in advance
@@aminnima6145 Well, it will not generate any lift. I don't see why there's any reason it should. I just listened to this video again after all this long time and he says nothing about lift in it. Also, scanning up above this I see that I provided one very long post. If you haven't read that, go find it. I think I must cover it all completely. . You cannot generate a unidirectional Force force from rotating masses. .. If you understand what a gyroscope does it basically changes the direction of the torque force you apply to it by 90°. Buy putting three gyroscopes together is a very common way of generating a stable platform that will not rotate in space. However , you can translate it all you want. An ordinary gyroscope can be translated up, down, left and right and as long as you don't try to rotate it there's no problem. Many a young amateur and uneducated person interested in science has come up with this same idea.. Do some research on what is called the Dean Drive. It defines a science fair project it apparently some people have been able to build that appears to produce lift when you set it on top of a bathroom scale, but it's deceptive. . Please find my other long comment I'm pretty sure I must have covered it all, but I don't remember everything I said and I'm too lazy to read the whole thing right now. Scanning over my old answer I also see that I made a comment that I looked up to patent and have the number for you to look at yourself. What I said then was that his patent describes this thing, but makes no claims about any sort of propulsion system. . In this video he describes a lot of irrelevant stuff that says nothing about the concept that it works on and he's making up terms when he talks about the forces. . Since we know that the gyroscope can change the torque you apply to it by 90°, it's possible to take three of these and get that 90° to come back and oppose the torque that you apply, so that when you try to turn it it resists being rotated. As I said, this is nothing to do with translating its position in space without rotating it. I don't know what else to tell you.
According to the patent: “Gravity is overcome when enough energy is generated by the system that the resistance to torque reaches a threshold resulting in a force of displacement in the direction where least external force, manifesting as torque, exists. And this direction is generally away from any and all gravitational sources, including planets and other bodies of mass located within the universe.” ... seems only theoretical, and would apparently result in the apparatus ending up stuck in some cold, distant, isolated point in space at equal distances from all other planetary bodies which doesn’t sound very practical, but a patent was issued.
I guess that’s how the stars are stuck to the firmament, hanging at the same spot thought the whole known history with no change. th-cam.com/video/Dbe_6QQlYvA/w-d-xo.html
I've thought of something like that for years too! but my design was completely different. Very cool idea, I hope you post of video of it built and working.
actually for the concept this forced into my mind, the above video didn't demo or explain squat. We all just saw it on you tube along with the accompanying sidebar of other suggestions. So it's a safe bet were all onto the same direction. Thrust... He had already shown thrust in the direction of his thumb or along the length of the axle. So then it only stands to reason that a weight for a base on the floor with a pole of four feet tall pointing up from the center of the base. A tee fitting on the upper end of the upright pipe, put one end of a pipe into one end of the tee and a spinnable weight on the other end, and just so things don't get out of balance. Do the same for the other end of the tee. Now according to his presumption of precession, once spun up the apparatus should lose weight.
Very nice construction. I have had a similar idea rolling around in my head for years. I way thinking of using magnets or electromagnets for propulsion of the rings. I never thought of fixed ring positions though. I hope you can get a physical model together. Good luck and nice work
+John Anon "By producing a positive or negative inertia effect on one side or angle." I don't believe this device would achieve this but it may be able to achieve being a "spatial gyroscope" I think there called something else but I forget at the moment; basically in outer space if this was spun up and weighted correctly it would be able to resist being moved from its spatial position in space, kind of like a multi directional gyroscope; I believe they already exist on some space craft actually. My idea is to take this a step further thought and not only rotate the gyros but rotate the gyro rings 90 degree off the axis of their gyroscopic rotation so the gyros themselves would be rotating at the same time, what this would do I'm not entirely sure; might just make it a better "spacial gyro" meaning it would stick to its location better, then I have some other conceptual ideas about how it might be used to create momentum in a specific direction; but that's sorta hard to explain in text... The reasons I can't say for sure is I'm just plain not smart enough yet haha; more specifically in math, but I want to go back to school and try to tackle it and get into physics a lot more heavily... I have some crazy ideas about gyroscopes and gaining momentum through moving objects around that I haven't seen tested yet (as far as I know). I believe the term for an object that can create its own momentum in a closed system is a "Reaction-less Drive" which to me doesn't actually exist yet in terms of what we know; maybe through some kind of quantum mechanic it might be possible, but what I'm thinking of is more like a Reactive Drive; which gains momentum with many moving parts within its own system that creates an imbalanced system on its own without requiring input from another outside force or system acting on it.
flower of life ✻ (hidden electromagnetic propulsion inside like many believes building the matrix by dividing by 7) tetrahedron , the gyro is powered with GPHS-RTG power??,and this ✻ flower of life is more than ❿ thousand years old (is not a invention is a rediscovery)☄
What will you use to spin the the "wheels"? They would rely on the opposing force of the friction between the mechanisms base and the ground would they not? Have you considered Eddy Currents? You'd have to find a way to deal with the incredible temperatures though.
+Connor Sprague: The patent describes what are essentially DC brushless motors of the type used an common small dc (muffin) fans or electric model airplane motors, or Video tape and Hard Drive platter drives. ... Here is the patent www.freepatentsonline.com/6705174.pdf Cheers, ScienceAdvisorSteve
Been slack on writing / drawing 3D picture to make this, some version of. I would like to simplify, using Tube shape like things in "Niremberg Battle of the God's ". Sure your welcome to pitch thoughts my way. Not that I have the great brains for the science, but physical application is just simple, mass is affected, exploit the whole. It's been done, I think I might get 3-D print figured out.
Hi Kelly, Its been a while since we have been in touch. I hope all is well and I also hope that we can get back in touch soon. What you designed and what I believe is has always been on my mind. Love Gyroscopic energy!!
This guy is not compensating for gyroscopic drift with counter rotating gyros. But the theory is if you speed up or slow down any of the gyros that would have an effect on the other gyros crating movement. And this would be for space or anti-grave vehicle.
Take that concept and turn those three concentric gyration rings into wireless ferro terroidal tesla coils and suspend them electromagnetically and use a parabolic mirror or mercury (concaved and enclaved) to re-radiate gravity waves in the opposite direction to create an anti-gravity engine.
Nothing new, because all fighter jets have such a gyro platform to measure the plane's roll and pitch in all directions. The video also doesn't show a direction of the assembly's motion. There is none either, because all internal forces cancel each other out, as follows from conservation of momentum. There is no propulsion.
+Thermospecialist Yeah the momentum of the three rings cancel out, but only if they all spin at the same speed and have the same mass - if you change the speed of one of the rings, you create a vector in the direction of it's torque.
+Thermospecialist If there was propulsion we would have achieved the technology needed to build what we see as UFO's but I don't understand why this guy describes equal force presence in a video that's trying to explain propulsion.
Arrange 5 gyroscopes like the dots on a die for 5 and voila, projection is produced by adding weight to any of the outer gyros. How do you get lift though?
"And what is this thing supposed to do? Why do they have to be inside each other, wouldn't it be the same thing to mount 3 gyros next to each other on a board?" This comment says it all -
@xlioilx of course it is easy to draw a coil that spins. How the h ell do you think he is going to power all those moving coils? Brushes, but that would take a lot of work. It would still be nice to see this thing get dropped from a tall building.
The theory is correct, but the problem is to synchronise the equal mass of the main elements in the same orbit of rotation. The elements that create the mass in equilibrium have to be controlled by segmenting each rotational element to be able to pass each other with equilibrium of their mass! Simplistically one gate opens to allow the next to pass within its equal orbit. This would be far easier to control with a two axis control then later use a multiple exterior "double "of its core twin .or synchronise the same orbit "Again" cutting into the now existing mass. The problem only exists because each gap that each element passes within each rotational element can only be controlled by synchronised rotation (by isolated linear control) that creates the full power of this design .therefore the more mass you put into the unit the more anticipated stability you might get . I've been toying with the "idea" that a triple linear rotational ring motor is the best way to investigate this rotational mass phenomenon. The kick back is how to tame the mass rotation individually as each axis would have to be able to double its "pulse" to enter a gate area that would be classed as a normal entry for its dominant increase in not only orbit but increase of a synthetic "G" force for each axis. "Synchrony" for this problem is the key for multiple axis control ! When I find the synchronous aspect of this electro mechanical I'll post it for your perusal. JFB
(part 3) This ball when placed on an incline will tend to slide rather than roll because it will resist any change to it's position on any axis relative to level ground. But it will move, and it will not provide any "propulsion". The gyros will provide only stability like any other gyro. There is no "magic" created by the superimposition of the 3 different moving flywheel planes. The gyroscopic effects will be additive however. It will not make time stand still, create a wormhole, or levitate.
if you get all 3 these rings up to designed speed it will be very stable no rolling. Then try to accelerate just one of the rings even faster by pulsing a coil, since it can not roll it will create a straight force forward because the entire sphere is stable will resist any kind of roll. Like wise trying to slow a ring down with the coils will not roll it either but move it in a straight direction. So you have 3 plains of straight movement depending on which coils your try to change speeds. 4 individual controls per ring would let a computer stabilize the internal ring speeds without movements of the sphere especially if the computer uses gps feedback much like a drone is controlled. You have to continuously input energy to overcome friction and gravity but be able to move about in any directions with computer control. The ultimate drone completely silent if put in a vacuum chamber no propellers to hit things. you could move this thing like a cannon ball or hide it underwater motionlessly, in the bushes or branches even push itself under the sand to hide. Could take even into space since it does not need or use propellers or the air. Opposite coils being pulsed would keep the ring speed constant while providing thrust in the direction of choice. Every force creates an opposite force so any attempt to increase a ring speed would push the coil assembly oppositely. Then the coil opposing slowing the internal ring back down contributes to the same forward force. The nice thing is if a coil tries to slow down a ring it can generate electricity at the same time.
Title is misleading as hell. The only thing "explained" in this video is what the screen is showing and the guy is repeating himself over an over again. At no point did he mention how this contraption would produce propulsion. Complete waste of time. Also, the concept would never work by the way.
It can move at space with slow movement. Can called mechanical inertial machine because one little inertia can make by this prototype. We want to see test at ISS station in space. This can be useful in space walk . No need to fuel . It can use with electrically. Result from solar charge. So, it is easy reliable propulsion . But we need more powerful inertial drives. This is mechanical drive. All big are based from prototype really. Go to full power test.
well maybe can attach some magnets and boom you got energy ..with that energy could drive the ship ..lol...inside the little ring .. but on big scale .. could be a kind of ball inside another ball..and the second ball people can be inside and drive the anti gravity machine ..but between them two balls a liquid has to be.. like a liquid wall..so the other ball will kind of float inside the other ball(while still on Earth gravitational field will work)(outside earth gravitational field will not work) we will have gravity inside the ball.. just need to think about a door mechanism and the propulsion kind .. with all that power generated must be a good way to make a propulsion maybe can even make 3 or more kinds of propulsion in the same time .. or one at a time .. lol ..and need an air system as well .. well lots of things :)
Razvan Giurgiuca how does things sspinning make anti gravity.. earths sspinning. and spining round the sun.. fact is that with e=mc2 rotation adds energy = more mass = more gravity sry to be a bummer.. keep studying buddy
To move it you would have an opposing magnet on the outer shell that could be moved to the direction you wanted to pull it towards, the magnetic force from the ring inside would be pulled towards the outer magnet, and with it, the whole thing in that direction, i've been thinking of this for a long time, i'm just glad someone else has come to the same conclusion, either the magnet on the outer shell, or one of the gyroscopic rings moving from the centre of gravity for movement/flight.
have to stop talking so much and build one (not seen something complex to do) and see it work in this way would not be suspected artifacts. sorry but many words and no fact. Building one. please
you are very close, basic concept is right... all the components are locked... dont need the bearings... need the magnetism to be inner outer... and casing magnetism to be the opposite magnetism and lighter then the inner mechanism... then when the 3 rings need to align at some point? for the briefest of moments the magnetism should parallel instead of omni...? causing the inner sphere to to move up... thus effecting the outer sphere to catch up and keep equilibrium? done fast enough... anti-gravity? dont take my word for it tho... to fringy... gonna conduct my own experiments for this when i cash in on my first big 1. If you get there first... more power to you!
Ganidllc, I constructed almost this same concept model in 2003 in Solidworks. Ran motion analysis. You apparently know materials, and mechanical engineering, Your model is not quite correct, although very good attempt. Wondering if you have built this and what was the outcome?? Though inertia, momentum was considered, a couple factors missing. Needs a couple missing Construction details, and a control, feedback system. REply is you Need help? You surely know now that publishing something like this on you tube gets lots of crack pots, but that is the world we live in.
Wonder if the "motion analysis" in the Solidworks CAD software is estimating the effect if the three stabilizing vector forces can be generated at extreme levels. I would think if all three vectors were extreme and equally balanced the device would attempt to "stand still in space" IE it would attempt to become stationary in (real space) . Given that the earth is moving in relative space (rotational, solar orbit, galactic orbit, expansion of universe - who knows what else) what would the device do? Watch out were your standing when the thing spins up to full speed. The device is going somewhere and not necessarily straight up. If the device were tethered with a strong enough cable to overpower the gyros I would expect it to suck up some fairly large quantities of energy as it attempted to "stay completely still" against the relatively high speed at which we move thru the universe. We tend to forget that mass is irrespective of gravity and the only real "anchor" we have to earth (besides our mortgage) is gravity. Once all the other know motions are accounted for (earths rotation, solar orbit etc) this device might be able to determine if the universe is actually expanding as most cosmetologist now believe.
All three rotors spinning at identical velocity could do some funky stuff beyond precise navigation - resisting kinetic force in a zero gravity environment. Ever had that fear your spacepack malfunctions during your EVA sending you drifting off into space. Gyroscopic spin WILL pin objects in fixed points(see CD player in Microgravity) I imagine the same concept might be adapted for propulsion some how...
Imagine the inner being a cocpit wall of a craft, the 2nd ring being a protective wall that protects inner cocpit and an assemby that assist in the suction and vortex that is created from the rotational turn of the outer body of the craft. Giving considerations for upper, lower and derectional air intakes, and outtakes that can be intermittently closed or released to achieve flight. This could probably be achieved using superconductive materials, power, and vorex technologies. But with you system it will likely to create " inertia " lift at a given rotational speed in the inner cocpit.
This resembles Otis Carr's Utron system, and Hollingshead's. It generates a torsion field. Counter-rotating 1/2 spin elements ( Henry Wallace / Kinemassic system ) also relate here... "Thrust" is produced by tilt-surfing at the speed of R&D $$...
It reminds me of the apparatus from the movie CONTACT. Also in the Bible, Ezekiel it talks about seeing a wheel within a wheel. The concept is true to that nature. However I can see flaws. 1.) How is it controled ? If it does work. 2.) Directional weak & strong fields were not explained. 3.) It may or may not exert an inertia dampening field. So no matter what the maneuver or speed, the occupants inside never feel it or when upide down, they don't fall to the ceiling. 4.) What is the actual applied power source? 5.) How Can This Be Used Or Applied Without A Actual Demonstration? I Saw Pictures. Your Patent Means Nothing Out Here Without A Working Demonstration.
Obviously no one grasps the concept. I envision a driver's seat in the center. A joystick shaped like a ball that can can move side to side, forward and back, and twist left or right and return to center. This joystick would control the PWM circuits that drive the coils by acceleration, or deceleration of the rings. Thus providing inertial forces on the unit at right angles from each ring respectively. Very simple design, but not sure if it could generate enough inertial force to lift off the ground. Without doing the math, I would presume ring speeds in excess of sound and inner ring mass of nearly a ton, in order to produce an upward inertial force stronger than gravitational pull. In prototype design, I would recommend a ferrofluid bearing surrounding the magnets inside the ring. This would help achieve the spin velocity required with the least amount of drag, and most importantly, reduce moving parts and friction. The rings and ring cover halfs will have to be polished to a mirror finish to reduce drag. Such a device would require a power supply in excess of 500kW which would have to be mostly generated on board through a tuned circuit that can sustain the pre-charged capacitors. If the device had some form of wilmhurst generator built into the rings, perhaps, the wattage could be produced and passed to the capacitors to be used by the PWM circuit to pulse the coils. The device would have to be spun up and capacitors fully charged on the ground. Once started, it would then have a certain amount of time before it has to be spun up again due to the coils parasitic reactance, unless circuitry was implemented to absorb this reactance and put the voltage back in phase with the amperage. It can be done though. Now the only loss would be through the wiring, capacitor leakage, PWM, and control circuit losses. Using optimal materials and circuitry, losses could be in the range of 3 to 5% per hour. Looks like a project for a University or government grant to fund. It is easy to build this thing on paper, it is entirely another to physically put it together. That being said, I intend to build a small proof of concept starting tomorrow.
I was looking over your design. I don't think it will work. I have my own design as well. I normally get "That will not work" from "educated" people. I get awe from people I give a demonstration to so they can picture how it hopefully will work. I just show them the forces of a gyro when being rotated around an axis. I have 3 ideas of creating directional force with gyroscopes. None of them I have seen from my years of looking over other peoples ideas. Maybe one day I will get to build something. Maybe yours will work. Good luck man! Don't give up!
Just-in-case you haven't heard, the inner ring is made of heavy metal, the mid ring is made of medium weight metal and the outer ring is made of lighter metal.
As long as something is either moving or spinning, the net energy of that is conserved. As far as gyroscopes for 'propulsion', that works, until the energy spins down to too small to thrust the inertia of the mass from its current acceleration. As an example of a massive propulsion conversion, I spun a medium grade gyro up with an air compressor, and it had really impressive force. Then its cage fatigued and the released force shattered the gyro cutting my hand enough to go to the hospital.
I get that the three wheels will balance each other. And I think that such a unit would resist any rotation about the central axis. The only way to attain a linear force from such an apparatus would then be to forcibly rotate it. I am not sure that is this gentleman’s plan but if the math works out it may be worth a shot.
So What happens if held in your hand while in a quiescent state and then dropped it. Would the wheels suddenly Increase in speed to counter the sensed motion and try to counter that motion if the acceleration rates were achievable to counter the 10.8 m/s sudden acceleration? Equal and opposite programmed response. Thinking about this hurts my head. what is the reference frame for calculating such problems using math, and physics?
GENIUS!!!! This construct can, I'm sure you realize, be modified to be used in conjunction with inertia stabilized gravity free propulsion particle launcher. Not only does it enhance overall energy output but it can serve as
A policeman from scotland built a device like this in the early 90's, that had flywheels that spun around a central axis. it used a radio controlled aircraft engine for power. the test for linear thrust was a pulley system with a equal weight on the other end. The ISS uses gyros to change orientation, they constantly spin then apply a braking action. E=MC2 then another spinning in the opposite direction does the same to correct. But I like the sound of the wormhole? Keep up the good work...
Most gyroscopes that I've seen that are configured perpendicular to each axis of motion tend to behave like a stabilized platform. How exactly to you produce linear motion from this design? Wouldn't you need to generate some kind of force to 'drift' this kind of system?
Excellent Invention. I understand how it works , having my own invention for space propulsion. Basically your invention needs an initial impulse, and external displacement. Sa this impulse or inertial stimulus is in the X direction. The 1st Gyroscope reaction is a displacement in the Y direction. That would be the input to the next gyroscope that would result in a displacement in the Z direction and that will be the input to the 3rd gyroscope that would result in a kick or displacement back in the X direction in the same direction of the original impulse input. It opposite to Newton's law of motion, of equal and opposite action and reaction. IN your invention is equal and same direction , adding to its propulsion from the 1st initial external impulse. I can understand that your readers don't understand but well done. I would like to make contact if you wish to talk about prolusion in space and my own invention
NO. Gyroscopes do not change the direction of a translation. They changed the direction of a torque by 90° to another torque, or moment. You can take a gyroscope and have it standing on the table spinning away and you can move it left, right, up and down and it will move very freely dependent only upon its mass. The three gyroscopes only Orient the torque Force back to oppose the direction that you apply to it so you just can't rotate it in space but you can translate it around all day long.
There is no possible way to create a mechanical construction - like a gyro, for instance - that can propel itself, without contact to any stationary object, like the floor. In the end, it is all the same as driving a car. Every action = equal opposite reaction. The only way a closed system could lift off from our planet surface, without conventional propulsion (pushing something away to gain momentum), is to cheat the laws of physics, which 'might' be possible within the realm of quantum mechanics. For instance: a mass increases when it is energised (or when its going really really really fast, which is the same thing). This could generate a momentum to generate lift.
The thing you are missing in your analysis, Kelly, is the fact that there is a reaction force AGAINST the driving coils (which are attached to the frame). Thus this force off-sets the rotation of the rings and actually tries to rotate the FRAME in the opposite direction. An analysis of these three 'reaction" forces upon the frame is necessary to determine the rotation of the frame as a whole.
could this be built, but with the attention to geometry too?, namely placing of the drive coils within the sphere of all of the rings. maybe there's the benefit in exploring those options too. don't know why but i immediately saw fractal geometry playing a role in actual building of the device...
This will rotate unstably and wobble about. You cannot generate translational acceleration with this only rotational (angular) acceleration. You could use this to rotate a spacecraft in zero g. This is actually the method used to rotate the space shuttle (2 axis the third is a waste). I suppose you could get this to roll on a flat plane, but it would move about rather chaotically. The moral is that Newton's third law prevents this device from being used as a means of propulsion. If it doesn't have anything to react against, then it cannot accelerate (it needs something to push off of).
Haven't you heard of General Relativity? The best explanation that we have is that gravity is the observable effect of a distortion of space-time. The equations DO predict that moving masses can induce an additional gravitation force due to their motion. This is what the Gravity-B experiment has been trying to detect. But it is a minute effect.
so if you had a rotor that could spin on two perpinducular axes at once.. would placing them in a housing contained in a single gyroscopic rotor be used to generate force/thrust? can this model you have uploaded be used to generate force . thrust? thanks for the great video :)
by powering the gyro. you will alter the the gravity field. just the different materials will effect the electrical flow. are you aiming for 0 gravity?
You know, I wanted to be an 'inventor'... in elementary school. Now I'm knowledgeable enough to know that I should become an 'engineer'. Even if you name the device improperly, at least name your supposed profession properly.
it will stabilize a craft in a frictionless environment but there's a Newtonian law that prevents it from moving anything that you might have overlooked.
Thinking about it I think its a stabilizer. if you have this say on a hovercar or space-pod, then say wind pushing it (or jet propulsion) will only move the hovercar in one direction, but it won't rotate. So this would be a gyroscopic rotational stabilizer. I guess the different rotors would slow down when you wanted to turn in some direction.
Several decades ago, I wrote a short letter to Richard Feynman inquiring as to what would happen if you stop a toy gyroscope from rotating on its stand, i.e. it precesses around on its stand. Surprisingly, he actually answered me by sending back my note-diagram with corrections. Answer: If you stop the precession, the gyroscope will drop like a rock ... as it must, by Newtonian physics. No gyroscopic motion can be used for propulsion. All relevant vectors do cancel out.
I actually had an idea similar to this, but I could only simulate it's physics within a two dimensional plane due to the said simulations limits. It was a ring with two opposite facing circular weights of the exact same densities, on an axis in the exact center of a cube, all connected by 90degree angles, the thing spun insanely fast and if it touched any uneven ground it shot in a corresponding direction too fast to even see. It was a part of a project I was working on I later called the "gyro-pod", a sort if challenge to see if I could make a vehicle that could move independently without any external wheels, and it was a success, but as I said only in concept with the simulation. I imagine if that concept was realistically reconstructed its spinning axes would have to be doubled, but i'm not exactly sure how.
i have already designed an almost complete model years ago, your work is good but you need to semplify the structure and increment the number of elements, from rotational rings to number of coils (i have solved in other way the reduce of intensity of magneto-electrical camp), the post of marcos13af is correct, but also you need to add an opposite-axis element to each gyroscope ring. also you need a aerodynamic section for rotational elements not for "aerodynamics" but for electrodynamics!
I see a balance of gyroscopic forces. This device will certainly provide a stable reference relating to direction relative to a known base point. But how exactly is this propulsion?
I seen a sphere by the side of the road hovering about 10' in the air. it was late but my headlights were on the sphere and the sphere had zero lights emitting from it. it was the size of a stop sign. the sphere was not from here it had maybe 8 or more rings.. outer rings spinning slow as each inner circle was substantially faster. visually the inner core rings were blazing fast. I take this road everyday for well over half my life. it took 30 seconds afterward for what I saw to register. Northern Michigan August 2015. this research I believe is key ingredient to advancement.. please stay with it I've seen this alien tech with my own eyes but for mere seconds
the guy is just showing his 3dsmax skills after 1 year of training, gyroscopic propulsion fiction effect in his head explained in 3dsmax great... now produce the ding ding ding didididid ding ding video of the frog accelerating with this device, i m sold
Research the terms: 1) authenticity, 2) scientific verification, 3) controlled repeatability Then, look up the terms: 1) unproven assertion, 2) unrepeatable under controlled scrutiny, 3) quackery Which do you think applies most realistically? I think you have me confused with someone else -- unless you're using an alias.
so besides the fact that there are no power suplies to any of the fixed hoops, are those berrings riding on the inside or outside of it's runner? it can't do both.
Its an intresting design, I'll bet it will at least be suficient to drive some kind of spherical outer shell. Youll need to add some kind of active controller in order to sense the current state of the rotors to drive them in sync, and a power source of some kind.
so what happens when you rotate this entire device in one direction while the inner circles are in motion, would it produce a force upon the axis that it is rotated upon?
This is something I also came up with but I call it anchor drive. The way it really works is it locks you to point space. In other words when turned on it would stick to space on the X,Y and Z axis. Depending on the time of day and month then turned on it would seem to shoot up and into space but really it is standing still and planet is moving away from it. If you set a timer so it turns off in a 225-250 million years you will find it in about the same place when it left the planet. ;-)
Hmm, interesting thought. This device would then be another solid proof of flat and stationary Earth. Pretty sure it would sit in one place day after day, year after year.
This is exactly what I've ben trying to tell people. The government have flying vehicles very similar to this. If you watched the series Project Blue Book then you may have noticed when they tested the the flying disk, gyros were spinning around the outside of it, they show us the truth you just have to be aware enough to notice and I get my info anywhere from TV and you tube to The Post calendar illustrations it amazes me when things coincidently fit together. Very good work stay curious my friend.
gravitational locking. but what gives this apparatus thrust? the slowing and speeding of particular dimensions? there is a way to do exactly what is shown here using only Neodymium magnets.
Ah. I figured probably the friction on the system would make it unfeasible, as well. I was thinking that this might work for a small toy that just kind of bobbled in the air, but like you said, it doesn't seem efficient at all. I also don't see how it's supposed to actually move; it seems like it would be creating a similar force in all directions.
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Many people gets the concept wrong, gyro locks rotational axises but does nothing to prevent motion in translational axises. Thus a gyro regardless of how many axis will never levitate, it's true that it may seem to defy gravity by not toppling, but this is only a counteracting moment preventing "falling over", it always requires a vertical support to counteract gravity.
I was thinking the same way but what happens if the 3 gyro are pulsating back and forth along their axis of rotation. A push from outside from a random direction, a force, is not instant, it applies in time. In that finite time the 3 axis of rotation are translating due to pulsations so the action of the force translates into a torque which in turn invokes the gyro precession action. Wouldn't this work? I would expect to resist the external force and remain in space.
There are videos of inventors disproving you entirely
"Apparatus for Gyroscopic Propulsion Explained"
Apparatus - yes
Gyroscopic - yes
Propulsion - no, no propulsion here.
Explained - absolutely not! you showed how it's built, but not how it works or what it does.
erasmusso exactly, this guy gets more than 600 000 views for explaining how 3 rings spin perpendicular to eachother and talking about the materials they're made from...
I'm with you ... I heard NO PROPULSION explained, WHATSOEVER ... !!!!! VERY AGGRAVATING ... thinking you're going to "get something", and then ... YOU DON'T ... !!!!! 😡😡😡
Imagination you Lack. So with this device you want Propulsion? I suggest building a Replication you control it with 555Timer chip, and interface this with "Ionic Propulsion"(High Voltage Wind{seen at Spark Gap}) shown in "Tin Foil Flyer/lifter" video's on "You-tube".
That's not a scientific theory its just a mechanical thought that by common sense has no function waist of time waist of money the third center ring won't do any thing the rings being made of different metals means nothing the second and third ring being different diamators will make it wobble
i think there can only be one genius in the world at a time
I always wondered if Ezekiel's description of a "wheel within a wheel" propulsion system would be like a gyroscope that contained two wheels, one within the other properly counterbalanced, that went in opposite directions.
Question everything.
albert miller "Forever learning but never coming to truth" - the apostle Paul. Don't just question, come to a conclusion based on evidence, and why question what is common sense?! Question is 1 + 1 = 2? No, question what matters.
Anon Mouse You recite the bible in a conversation on truth? I mean it had it's relative truths but come on man, that's a logical fallacy in itself, not evidence.
That's what I was thinking. This invention is thousands of years old. Ezekial Chapter 1 and 10. Solomon said that nothing is new under the sun.
I'll look up the patent number!!! I think I've seen this before. If I'm not mistaken this is an electrogravitic thruster used to create a quantum field bubble. It seems simple and straight forward but the challenge would be in creating the power supply and control systems for it and in mounting a crew cabin or cargo bay or payload if it is to be weaponized for military applications.
So did you build it yet? and test it yet?
If so, what were the results?
I would think that it would keep everything rock solid stationary.
If you were in a moving vehicle and you started your device, my guess is you could turn off the engine of your vehicle and it would coast much longer then normal.
Please reply, with answers.
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This resembles a Kinetic Field Drive, but it doesn't rotate freely, there is no collection plate, so no field can be generated and thus no magnetic fields to syphon out. With a crystalline internal component within the core of a similar model to this, placed in the center of a KFD, you were have what you call "Gyroscopic Propulsion". Beyond this, the energy applied would only allow for the transference of energy and help to stabilize motion rather then be the source of it. I found it to be quite interesting however, and the digital diagram was quite interesting.
I don't know how the patent office would even permit an application of something that has been around since the beginning of time. To patent a gyroscope is to patent going to the bathroom.
Its not a patent for a gyro. Its a patent on the device that uses 3 gyros big difference.
rayzimmermin Old News.
has anyone tried getting a patent on going to the bathroom?
Tait Jones
Monsantos?
David Ouellette LMAO I wouldn't doubt it in the least.
This would work. Absolutely brilliant. Most people do not understand what gyroscopic forces do when it comes to mass and expression of energy. For instance If i took a barbell from a bench press machine and slid a 45 pound plate on one end of the barbell and fastened it to the end so it could not come off there would be no way for me or really anyone to pick up that barbell with the plate on one end at the farthest side of the barbell. And even if i picked it up with one arm i could not swing it around my head like a sword or baseball bat, the weight would be to great and the forces of gravity would not permit me to swing such a mass. But if i had the same barbell with a 45 pound plate on the far side but this time i used a motor to spin the 45 pound bar bell to around 35,000 rpm then once the 45 lb plate is in motion the gyroscopic effect it would have on the plate would be so great that i would not only be able to pick up the barbell and 45 pound plate with ease but i could lift it over my head and spin it around with one arm. Now thats just gyroscopic force on the +y and -y axis's acting perpendicular to the barbell on the horizontal -x and +x axis's. You're device would act on the +x -x & +y -y & +z -z axis's thus covering all areas of spacial force expression. And thus all areas of space/time around this device driven by the three rings composed of different masses to equalize the difference in sizes to make smaller heavier rings and larger lighter rings would ingeniously express the centrifugal velocities equally from the center of mass in the middle acting on all three axis's and thus would literally cancel out the objects mass completely. Thus defying or acting against the forces of Gravity working against the device. Great work this should be fabricated and put to the test!
You got it.
If the mass to angular momentum of all 3 components is infinitely equivalent, it will be infinitely stable but not free of its own mass. Particularly if it's housed inside of a further installation, the housing still has its own mass. Its total rotational axis would be unchanging but whatever larger mass it's drawn to will still draw it in. It's not like you're climbing a gravitational slope on the power of gyroscopic angular momentum alone.
Unless I have a fundamental misunderstanding of event horizons and their relationship with positive/negative angular momentum.
When I was deeply involved in inventing during my inventing years, I encountered the same conclusion as he states at timing 0:50 in this video. There are currently no equations that apply to this effect. :)
The design I came up with some years back was to create a more pronounced drive effect by using four separate thrusters. By building them separately this keeps the costs way down. It also makes the device much easier to construct, and to replace when they wear out.
Wear is going to be a major part of the use of these thrusters when they hit the aerospace market (if they ever do). And no, I did not patent my design because when a person patents something, he has to make his design public, which I will not do until I receive a decent payment up front.
When I privately spoke with Maurice Ward, the inventor of the only known substance that can withstand the heat of a 10,000 degree thermonuclear blast, he told me a defense contractor tried to steal his Starlite sample. This created such distrust, that Maurice flew back to England and cut off all negotiations on selling his amazing Starlite material.
Can't say i liked Mr.Ward 1 bit. His secret formula got blatantly stolen a few times. Good! there is no room in this game for greedy fuckers.
Either u want to change the world for the better, or u dont.
Considering he was 1 of my countrymen, im appalled by his behaviour.
It wasn't the fact that someone in the americas wanted to steal it.. its the unfortunate mindset of a greedy alchemist who wanted billions for something 80% organic & made from hair products.... and still maintain over 50% profits of everything, including its controlled applications.
He thought that this control would open up further secrets of other composite materials to himself through various organisations.
Totally unrealistic expectations in business and the inventors world.
Cutting it short, the man was an insatiable cunt. Hope this helps in clearing up this man's personality and greedy mindset.
Never underestimate the most softest spoken person when it comes to MONEY!.
Now hes dead and its on lockdown.. hahahaaa. Yes what a marvelous man. (sarcasm)
Rockguitarnow Just because you and Ray Tippett don't know the math, does not mean that the math doesn't exist. Describing the gyroscopic pressession phenomenon is acrually quite trivial; if, that is, you understand Newton, despite Ray's claims to the contrary in his patent.
Besids, the math is not the phenomenon. Math is only a model for the natural phenomena that we have been able to assign mathematic models to. All the concepts Newton taught us can be described without math. The math allows us to quantify things so we can calculate what we want to happen without actually having the objects themselves. This is sort of the definition of Engineering.
Cheers, ScienceAdvisorSteve
@@Observ45er hey you sound like you know what you are talking about maybe you know more physics than i do. So can you please tell me if the set up in the video will work or generate some lifte or thrust???? And why please...thank you in advance
@@aminnima6145 Well, it will not generate any lift. I don't see why there's any reason it should. I just listened to this video again after all this long time and he says nothing about lift in it. Also, scanning up above this I see that I provided one very long post. If you haven't read that, go find it. I think I must cover it all completely.
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You cannot generate a unidirectional Force force from rotating masses.
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If you understand what a gyroscope does it basically changes the direction of the torque force you apply to it by 90°. Buy putting three gyroscopes together is a very common way of generating a stable platform that will not rotate in space.
However , you can translate it all you want. An ordinary gyroscope can be translated up, down, left and right and as long as you don't try to rotate it there's no problem. Many a young amateur and uneducated person interested in science has come up with this same idea..
Do some research on what is called the Dean Drive. It defines a science fair project it apparently some people have been able to build that appears to produce lift when you set it on top of a bathroom scale, but it's deceptive.
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Please find my other long comment I'm pretty sure I must have covered it all, but I don't remember everything I said and I'm too lazy to read the whole thing right now.
Scanning over my old answer I also see that I made a comment that I looked up to patent and have the number for you to look at yourself. What I said then was that his patent describes this thing, but makes no claims about any sort of propulsion system.
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In this video he describes a lot of irrelevant stuff that says nothing about the concept that it works on and he's making up terms when he talks about the forces.
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Since we know that the gyroscope can change the torque you apply to it by 90°, it's possible to take three of these and get that 90° to come back and oppose the torque that you apply, so that when you try to turn it it resists being rotated.
As I said, this is nothing to do with translating its position in space without rotating it.
I don't know what else to tell you.
If I tie 5 CATS together it will produce several hundred pounds of thrust in 5 directions with NO jet fuel required....
Yep.
No you would have a cat5 cable and iT would be looking for it.
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According to the patent: “Gravity is overcome when enough energy is generated by the system that the resistance to torque reaches a threshold resulting in a force of displacement in the direction where least external force, manifesting as torque, exists. And this direction is generally away from any and all gravitational sources, including planets and other bodies of mass located within the universe.” ... seems only theoretical, and would apparently result in the apparatus ending up stuck in some cold, distant, isolated point in space at equal distances from all other planetary bodies which doesn’t sound very practical, but a patent was issued.
I guess that’s how the stars are stuck to the firmament, hanging at the same spot thought the whole known history with no change.
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I've thought of something like that for years too! but my design was completely different.
Very cool idea, I hope you post of video of it built and working.
my left ear liked this video :)
actually for the concept this forced into my mind, the above video didn't demo or explain squat. We all just saw it on you tube along with the accompanying sidebar of other suggestions. So it's a safe bet were all onto the same direction. Thrust... He had already shown thrust in the direction of his thumb or along the length of the axle.
So then it only stands to reason that a weight for a base on the floor with a pole of four feet tall pointing up from the center of the base. A tee fitting on the upper end of the upright pipe, put one end of a pipe into one end of the tee and a spinnable weight on the other end, and just so things don't get out of balance. Do the same for the other end of the tee. Now according to his presumption of precession, once spun up the apparatus should lose weight.
Wouldn't this device resist movement from all directions? Actually wouldn't this have a stabilizing effect.
Just as I thought....
just any rotation, though of this in high school.. no propulsion.. crack head
Very nice construction. I have had a similar idea rolling around in my head for years. I way thinking of using magnets or electromagnets for propulsion of the rings. I never thought of fixed ring positions though. I hope you can get a physical model together. Good luck and nice work
so how exactly would this send one in a particular direction
+deathbot117 By producing a positive or negative inertia effect on one side or angle.
+John Anon It would effectively be "rolling" in that direction, even if it was against downward gravity.
kewl now we just need these in vehicles
+John Anon "By producing a positive or negative inertia effect on one side or angle."
I don't believe this device would achieve this but it may be able to achieve being a "spatial gyroscope" I think there called something else but I forget at the moment; basically in outer space if this was spun up and weighted correctly it would be able to resist being moved from its spatial position in space, kind of like a multi directional gyroscope; I believe they already exist on some space craft actually.
My idea is to take this a step further thought and not only rotate the gyros but rotate the gyro rings 90 degree off the axis of their gyroscopic rotation so the gyros themselves would be rotating at the same time, what this would do I'm not entirely sure; might just make it a better "spacial gyro" meaning it would stick to its location better, then I have some other conceptual ideas about how it might be used to create momentum in a specific direction; but that's sorta hard to explain in text...
The reasons I can't say for sure is I'm just plain not smart enough yet haha; more specifically in math, but I want to go back to school and try to tackle it and get into physics a lot more heavily... I have some crazy ideas about gyroscopes and gaining momentum through moving objects around that I haven't seen tested yet (as far as I know). I believe the term for an object that can create its own momentum in a closed system is a "Reaction-less Drive" which to me doesn't actually exist yet in terms of what we know; maybe through some kind of quantum mechanic it might be possible, but what I'm thinking of is more like a Reactive Drive; which gains momentum with many moving parts within its own system that creates an imbalanced system on its own without requiring input from another outside force or system acting on it.
you slow down one of the rings and lean. Simple.
flower of life ✻ (hidden electromagnetic propulsion inside like many believes building the matrix by dividing by 7) tetrahedron , the gyro is powered with GPHS-RTG power??,and this ✻ flower of life is more than ❿ thousand years old (is not a invention is a rediscovery)☄
why there is no build prototype of this concept?
What will you use to spin the the "wheels"?
They would rely on the opposing force of the friction between the mechanisms base and the ground would they not?
Have you considered Eddy Currents? You'd have to find a way to deal with the incredible temperatures though.
+Connor Sprague: The patent describes what are essentially DC brushless motors of the type used an common small dc (muffin) fans or electric model airplane motors, or Video tape and Hard Drive platter drives.
... Here is the patent
www.freepatentsonline.com/6705174.pdf
Cheers, ScienceAdvisorSteve
Have you made any progress on this? I'm in the early stages of a simliar project and could use an ear to bend.
Been slack on writing / drawing 3D picture to make this, some version of. I would like to simplify, using Tube shape like things in "Niremberg Battle of the God's ". Sure your welcome to pitch thoughts my way. Not that I have the great brains for the science, but physical application is just simple, mass is affected, exploit the whole. It's been done, I think I might get 3-D print figured out.
Hi Kelly, Its been a while since we have been in touch. I hope all is well and I also hope that we can get back in touch soon.
What you designed and what I believe is has always been on my mind. Love Gyroscopic energy!!
This appears to be more of a non propulsion mechanism, producing stability. This is similar to what cruise ships use to reduce rocking, no?
This guy is not compensating for gyroscopic drift with counter rotating gyros. But the theory is if you speed up or slow down any of the gyros that would have an effect on the other gyros crating movement. And this would be for space or anti-grave vehicle.
Sandy Kidd impressed Universities with his Antigravity machine. It is a very simple device and obviously thwats Newtons laws.
Take that concept and turn those three concentric gyration rings into wireless ferro terroidal tesla coils and suspend them electromagnetically and use a parabolic mirror or mercury (concaved and enclaved) to re-radiate gravity waves in the opposite direction to create an anti-gravity engine.
Nothing new, because all fighter jets have such a gyro platform to measure the plane's roll and pitch in all directions. The video also doesn't show a direction of the assembly's motion. There is none either, because all internal forces cancel each other out, as follows from conservation of momentum. There is no propulsion.
check out eric luftwaite and Alex Jones (not the loud radio guy) for using a gyroscope for propulsion. It is really crude but it works.
Tait Jones Actually, Alex Jones gyroscopic platform needs solid ground to bounce off. It's only half of solution.
Jagen alias digicho So add some jet engines and bam!@
+Thermospecialist Yeah the momentum of the three rings cancel out, but only if they all spin at the same speed and have the same mass - if you change the speed of one of the rings, you create a vector in the direction of it's torque.
+Thermospecialist If there was propulsion we would have achieved the technology needed to build what we see as UFO's but I don't understand why this guy describes equal force presence in a video that's trying to explain propulsion.
Arrange 5 gyroscopes like the dots on a die for 5 and voila, projection is produced by adding weight to any of the outer gyros. How do you get lift though?
"And what is this thing supposed to do? Why do they have to be inside each other, wouldn't it be the same thing to mount 3 gyros next to each other on a board?"
This comment says it all -
this guy stole your idea
Why can I not see Kevins shared photos???????????????
Congratulations, you have welded three gyroscopes together and have made an apparatus that is very stable.
I started laughing when i read the title, then i played the video, now im on the floor
The movie Contact brought me here. This concept has intrigued me my entire life. Carl Sagan was a visionary.
Don't believe it will work and am a mechanical engineer. You can silence me and your other critics by building and demonstrating it. Nice CAD job.
@xlioilx of course it is easy to draw a coil that spins.
How the h ell do you think he is going to power all those moving coils?
Brushes, but that would take a lot of work.
It would still be nice to see this thing get dropped from a tall building.
Seems like it worked. Gov. Might have told him to stop uploading.
The theory is correct, but the problem is to synchronise the equal mass of the main elements in the same orbit of rotation. The elements that create the mass in equilibrium have to be controlled by segmenting each rotational element to be able to pass each other with equilibrium of their mass! Simplistically one gate opens to allow the next to pass within its equal orbit. This would be far easier to control with a two axis control then later use a multiple exterior "double "of its core twin .or synchronise the same orbit "Again" cutting into the now existing mass.
The problem only exists because each gap that each element passes within each rotational element can only be controlled by synchronised rotation (by isolated linear control) that creates the full power of this design .therefore the more mass you put into the unit the more anticipated stability you might get . I've been toying with the "idea" that a triple linear rotational ring motor is the best way to investigate this rotational mass phenomenon. The kick back is how to tame the mass rotation individually as each axis would have to be able to double its "pulse" to enter a gate area that would be classed as a normal entry for its dominant increase in not only orbit but increase of a synthetic "G" force for each axis. "Synchrony" for this problem is the key for multiple axis control ! When I find the synchronous aspect of this electro mechanical I'll post it for your perusal. JFB
why the hell did you patent something you know it does not work outside the computer screen?
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Hey have you ever thought of using a sphere shape to house the components so the propulsion system can be used to its full Capacity
(part 3) This ball when placed on an incline will tend to slide rather than roll because it will resist any change to it's position on any axis relative to level ground. But it will move, and it will not provide any "propulsion". The gyros will provide only stability like any other gyro. There is no "magic" created by the superimposition of the 3 different moving flywheel planes. The gyroscopic effects will be additive however. It will not make time stand still, create a wormhole, or levitate.
if you get all 3 these rings up to designed speed it will be very stable no rolling. Then try to accelerate just one of the rings even faster by pulsing a coil, since it can not roll it will create a straight force forward because the entire sphere is stable will resist any kind of roll. Like wise trying to slow a ring down with the coils will not roll it either but move it in a straight direction. So you have 3 plains of straight movement depending on which coils your try to change speeds. 4 individual controls per ring would let a computer stabilize the internal ring speeds without movements of the sphere especially if the computer uses gps feedback much like a drone is controlled. You have to continuously input energy to overcome friction and gravity but be able to move about in any directions with computer control. The ultimate drone completely silent if put in a vacuum chamber no propellers to hit things. you could move this thing like a cannon ball or hide it underwater motionlessly, in the bushes or branches even push itself under the sand to hide. Could take even into space since it does not need or use propellers or the air. Opposite coils being pulsed would keep the ring speed constant while providing thrust in the direction of choice. Every force creates an opposite force so any attempt to increase a ring speed would push the coil assembly oppositely. Then the coil opposing slowing the internal ring back down contributes to the same forward force. The nice thing is if a coil tries to slow down a ring it can generate electricity at the same time.
Title is misleading as hell. The only thing "explained" in this video is what the screen is showing and the guy is repeating himself over an over again. At no point did he mention how this contraption would produce propulsion.
Complete waste of time.
Also, the concept would never work by the way.
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It can move at space with slow movement.
Can called mechanical inertial machine
because one little inertia can make by
this prototype.
We want to see test at ISS station in space.
This can be useful in space walk .
No need to fuel . It can use with electrically.
Result from solar charge. So, it is easy
reliable propulsion . But we need more
powerful inertial drives.
This is mechanical drive.
All big are based from prototype really.
Go to full power test.
So you have resistance to rotation. What you don't have is propulsion.
Just what I thought
well maybe can attach some magnets and boom you got energy ..with that energy could drive the ship ..lol...inside the little ring .. but on big scale .. could be a kind of ball inside another ball..and the second ball people can be inside and drive the anti gravity machine ..but between them two balls a liquid has to be.. like a liquid wall..so the other ball will kind of float inside the other ball(while still on Earth gravitational field will work)(outside earth gravitational field will not work) we will have gravity inside the ball.. just need to think about a door mechanism and the propulsion kind .. with all that power generated must be a good way to make a propulsion maybe can even make 3 or more kinds of propulsion in the same time .. or one at a time .. lol ..and need an air system as well .. well lots of things :)
Razvan Giurgiuca how does things sspinning make anti gravity.. earths sspinning. and spining round the sun.. fact is that with e=mc2 rotation adds energy = more mass = more gravity sry to be a bummer.. keep studying buddy
Maybe see this www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060325232140.htm
joshua golden is not about studying you bummer is about imagination
To move it you would have an opposing magnet on the outer shell that could be moved to the direction you wanted to pull it towards, the magnetic force from the ring inside would be pulled towards the outer magnet, and with it, the whole thing in that direction, i've been thinking of this for a long time, i'm just glad someone else has come to the same conclusion, either the magnet on the outer shell, or one of the gyroscopic rings moving from the centre of gravity for movement/flight.
I'm probably missing something, but this just seems like a further illustration of how crap the patent system is.
do you know how a gyro works?
Yes.
I have always had the same idea in my head. I am surprised no one has build it yet.
have to stop talking so much and build one (not seen something complex to do) and see it work in this way would not be suspected artifacts. sorry but many words and no fact. Building one. please
you are very close, basic concept is right... all the components are locked... dont need the bearings... need the magnetism to be inner outer... and casing magnetism to be the opposite magnetism and lighter then the inner mechanism... then when the 3 rings need to align at some point? for the briefest of moments the magnetism should parallel instead of omni...? causing the inner sphere to to move up... thus effecting the outer sphere to catch up and keep equilibrium? done fast enough... anti-gravity? dont take my word for it tho... to fringy... gonna conduct my own experiments for this when i cash in on my first big 1. If you get there first... more power to you!
Ganidllc, I constructed almost this same concept model in 2003 in Solidworks. Ran motion analysis. You apparently know materials, and mechanical engineering, Your model is not quite correct, although very good attempt. Wondering if you have built this and what was the outcome?? Though inertia, momentum was considered, a couple factors missing. Needs a couple missing Construction details, and a control, feedback system. REply is you Need help? You surely know now that publishing something like this on you tube gets lots of crack pots, but that is the world we live in.
Wonder if the "motion analysis" in the Solidworks CAD software is estimating the effect if the three stabilizing vector forces can be generated at extreme levels. I would think if all three vectors were extreme and equally balanced the device would attempt to "stand still in space" IE it would attempt to become stationary in (real space) . Given that the earth is moving in relative space (rotational, solar orbit, galactic orbit, expansion of universe - who knows what else) what would the device do? Watch out were your standing when the thing spins up to full speed. The device is going somewhere and not necessarily straight up. If the device were tethered with a strong enough cable to overpower the gyros I would expect it to suck up some fairly large quantities of energy as it attempted to "stay completely still" against the relatively high speed at which we move thru the universe. We tend to forget that mass is irrespective of gravity and the only real "anchor" we have to earth (besides our mortgage) is gravity. Once all the other know motions are accounted for (earths rotation, solar orbit etc) this device might be able to determine if the universe is actually expanding as most cosmetologist now believe.
I had the same concept it's always cool to find out others are thinking the same thing basically
All three rotors spinning at identical velocity could do some funky stuff beyond precise navigation - resisting kinetic force in a zero gravity environment. Ever had that fear your spacepack malfunctions during your EVA sending you drifting off into space. Gyroscopic spin WILL pin objects in fixed points(see CD player in Microgravity) I imagine the same concept might be adapted for propulsion some how...
Imagine the inner being a cocpit wall of a craft, the 2nd ring being a protective wall that protects inner cocpit and an assemby that assist in the suction and vortex that is created from the rotational turn of the outer body of the craft. Giving considerations for upper, lower and derectional air intakes, and outtakes that can be intermittently closed or released to achieve flight. This could probably be achieved using superconductive materials, power, and vorex technologies. But with you system it will likely to create " inertia " lift at a given rotational speed in the inner cocpit.
This resembles Otis Carr's Utron system, and Hollingshead's. It generates a torsion field. Counter-rotating 1/2 spin elements ( Henry Wallace / Kinemassic system ) also relate here... "Thrust" is produced by tilt-surfing at the speed of R&D $$...
cool, i like the new direction. good luck with it and the sooner the better.
It reminds me of the apparatus from the movie CONTACT.
Also in the Bible, Ezekiel it talks about seeing a wheel within a wheel.
The concept is true to that nature. However I can see flaws.
1.) How is it controled ? If it does work.
2.) Directional weak & strong fields were not explained.
3.) It may or may not exert an inertia dampening field. So no matter what the maneuver or speed, the occupants inside never feel it or when upide down, they don't fall to the ceiling.
4.) What is the actual applied power source?
5.) How Can This Be Used Or Applied Without A Actual Demonstration? I Saw Pictures.
Your Patent Means Nothing Out Here Without A Working Demonstration.
Obviously no one grasps the concept. I envision a driver's seat in the center. A joystick shaped like a ball that can can move side to side, forward and back, and twist left or right and return to center. This joystick would control the PWM circuits that drive the coils by acceleration, or deceleration of the rings. Thus providing inertial forces on the unit at right angles from each ring respectively. Very simple design, but not sure if it could generate enough inertial force to lift off the ground. Without doing the math, I would presume ring speeds in excess of sound and inner ring mass of nearly a ton, in order to produce an upward inertial force stronger than gravitational pull. In prototype design, I would recommend a ferrofluid bearing surrounding the magnets inside the ring. This would help achieve the spin velocity required with the least amount of drag, and most importantly, reduce moving parts and friction. The rings and ring cover halfs will have to be polished to a mirror finish to reduce drag.
Such a device would require a power supply in excess of 500kW which would have to be mostly generated on board through a tuned circuit that can sustain the pre-charged capacitors. If the device had some form of wilmhurst generator built into the rings, perhaps, the wattage could be produced and passed to the capacitors to be used by the PWM circuit to pulse the coils. The device would have to be spun up and capacitors fully charged on the ground. Once started, it would then have a certain amount of time before it has to be spun up again due to the coils parasitic reactance, unless circuitry was implemented to absorb this reactance and put the voltage back in phase with the amperage. It can be done though. Now the only loss would be through the wiring, capacitor leakage, PWM, and control circuit losses. Using optimal materials and circuitry, losses could be in the range of 3 to 5% per hour. Looks like a project for a University or government grant to fund. It is easy to build this thing on paper, it is entirely another to physically put it together. That being said, I intend to build a small proof of concept starting tomorrow.
I was looking over your design. I don't think it will work. I have my own design as well. I normally get "That will not work" from "educated" people. I get awe from people I give a demonstration to so they can picture how it hopefully will work. I just show them the forces of a gyro when being rotated around an axis. I have 3 ideas of creating directional force with gyroscopes. None of them I have seen from my years of looking over other peoples ideas. Maybe one day I will get to build something. Maybe yours will work. Good luck man! Don't give up!
Just-in-case you haven't heard, the inner ring is made of heavy metal, the mid ring is made of medium weight metal and the outer ring is made of lighter metal.
As long as something is either moving or spinning, the net energy of that is conserved. As far as gyroscopes for 'propulsion', that works, until the energy spins down to too small to thrust the inertia of the mass from its current acceleration. As an example of a massive propulsion conversion, I spun a medium grade gyro up with an air compressor, and it had really impressive force. Then its cage fatigued and the released force shattered the gyro cutting my hand enough to go to the hospital.
Originally made in late 50s early 60s by private contractor Honeywell for guidance systems and stabilization of space craft.
I get that the three wheels will balance each other. And I think that such a unit would resist any rotation about the central axis. The only way to attain a linear force from such an apparatus would then be to forcibly rotate it.
I am not sure that is this gentleman’s plan but if the math works out it may be worth a shot.
So What happens if held in your hand while in a quiescent state and then dropped it. Would the wheels suddenly Increase in speed to counter the sensed motion and try to counter that motion if the acceleration rates were achievable to counter the 10.8 m/s sudden acceleration? Equal and opposite programmed response.
Thinking about this hurts my head. what is the reference frame for calculating such problems using math, and physics?
he got the patent to receive money if someone finished it within the period he holds the patent for
GENIUS!!!! This construct can, I'm sure you realize, be modified to be used in conjunction with inertia stabilized gravity free propulsion particle launcher. Not only does it enhance overall energy output but it can serve as
A policeman from scotland built a device like this in the early 90's, that had flywheels that spun around a central axis. it used a radio controlled aircraft engine for power. the test for linear thrust was a pulley system with a equal weight on the other end.
The ISS uses gyros to change orientation, they constantly spin then apply a braking action. E=MC2 then another spinning in the opposite direction does the same to correct.
But I like the sound of the wormhole?
Keep up the good work...
You need a substrate like a turbo encabulator, obviously.
Most gyroscopes that I've seen that are configured perpendicular to each axis of motion tend to behave like a stabilized platform. How exactly to you produce linear motion from this design? Wouldn't you need to generate some kind of force to 'drift' this kind of system?
Excellent Invention. I understand how it works , having my own invention for space propulsion. Basically your invention needs an
initial impulse, and external displacement. Sa this impulse or inertial stimulus is in the X direction. The 1st Gyroscope reaction is a displacement in the Y direction. That would be the input to the next gyroscope that would result in a displacement in the Z direction
and that will be the input to the 3rd gyroscope that would result in a kick or displacement back in the X direction in the same direction
of the original impulse input. It opposite to Newton's law of motion, of equal and opposite action and reaction. IN your invention is equal and same direction , adding to its propulsion from the 1st initial external impulse.
I can understand that your readers don't understand but well done. I would like to make contact if you wish to talk about prolusion in space
and my own invention
NO. Gyroscopes do not change the direction of a translation. They changed the direction of a torque by 90° to another torque, or moment.
You can take a gyroscope and have it standing on the table spinning away and you can move it left, right, up and down and it will move very freely dependent only upon its mass. The three gyroscopes only Orient the torque Force back to oppose the direction that you apply to it so you just can't rotate it in space but you can translate it around all day long.
There is no possible way to create a mechanical construction - like a
gyro, for instance - that can propel itself, without contact to any
stationary object, like the floor. In the end, it is all the same as
driving a car. Every action = equal opposite reaction. The only way a
closed system could lift off from our planet surface, without
conventional propulsion (pushing something away to gain momentum), is to
cheat the laws of physics, which 'might' be possible within the realm
of quantum mechanics. For instance: a mass increases when it is
energised (or when its going really really really fast, which is the
same thing). This could generate a momentum to generate lift.
The thing you are missing in your analysis, Kelly, is the fact that there is a reaction force AGAINST the driving coils (which are attached to the frame). Thus this force off-sets the rotation of the rings and actually tries to rotate the FRAME in the opposite direction. An analysis of these three 'reaction" forces upon the frame is necessary to determine the rotation of the frame as a whole.
could this be built, but with the attention to geometry too?, namely placing of the drive coils within the sphere of all of the rings. maybe there's the benefit in exploring those options too. don't know why but i immediately saw fractal geometry playing a role in actual building of the device...
This will rotate unstably and wobble about. You cannot generate translational acceleration with this only rotational (angular) acceleration. You could use this to rotate a spacecraft in zero g. This is actually the method used to rotate the space shuttle (2 axis the third is a waste). I suppose you could get this to roll on a flat plane, but it would move about rather chaotically.
The moral is that Newton's third law prevents this device from being used as a means of propulsion. If it doesn't have anything to react against, then it cannot accelerate (it needs something to push off of).
What indirect interactions are you referring to? Don't know if you're aware, but another example of the effect includes buses powered by flywheels.
1. Draw a box around the whole thing.
2. Sum the external forces.
3. Tada! No motion. Thanks Mr. Newton.
Haven't you heard of General Relativity? The best explanation that we have is that gravity is the observable effect of a distortion of space-time. The equations DO predict that moving masses can induce an additional gravitation force due to their motion. This is what the Gravity-B experiment has been trying to detect. But it is a minute effect.
so if you had a rotor that could spin on two perpinducular axes at once.. would placing them in a housing contained in a single gyroscopic rotor be used to generate force/thrust? can this model you have uploaded be used to generate force . thrust? thanks for the great video :)
by powering the gyro. you will alter the the gravity field. just the different materials will effect the electrical flow. are you aiming for 0 gravity?
You know, I wanted to be an 'inventor'... in elementary school. Now I'm knowledgeable enough to know that I should become an 'engineer'. Even if you name the device improperly, at least name your supposed profession properly.
it will stabilize a craft in a frictionless environment but there's a Newtonian law that prevents it from moving anything that you might have overlooked.
Thinking about it I think its a stabilizer. if you have this say on a hovercar or space-pod, then say wind pushing it (or jet propulsion) will only move the hovercar in one direction, but it won't rotate. So this would be a gyroscopic rotational stabilizer. I guess the different rotors would slow down when you wanted to turn in some direction.
Several decades ago, I wrote a short letter to Richard Feynman inquiring as to what would happen if you stop a toy gyroscope from rotating on its stand, i.e. it precesses around on its stand. Surprisingly, he actually answered me by sending back my note-diagram with corrections. Answer: If you stop the precession, the gyroscope will drop like a rock ... as it must, by Newtonian physics. No gyroscopic motion can be used for propulsion. All relevant vectors do cancel out.
I actually had an idea similar to this, but I could only simulate it's physics within a two dimensional plane due to the said simulations limits. It was a ring with two opposite facing circular weights of the exact same densities, on an axis in the exact center of a cube, all connected by 90degree angles, the thing spun insanely fast and if it touched any uneven ground it shot in a corresponding direction too fast to even see. It was a part of a project I was working on I later called the "gyro-pod", a sort if challenge to see if I could make a vehicle that could move independently without any external wheels, and it was a success, but as I said only in concept with the simulation.
I imagine if that concept was realistically reconstructed its spinning axes would have to be doubled, but i'm not exactly sure how.
i have already designed an almost complete model years ago, your work is good but you need to semplify the structure and increment the number of elements, from rotational rings to number of coils (i have solved in other way the reduce of intensity of magneto-electrical camp), the post of marcos13af is correct, but also you need to add an opposite-axis element to each gyroscope ring. also you need a aerodynamic section for rotational elements not for "aerodynamics" but for electrodynamics!
In one Eye and out the other, where do I find propulsion ?
I see a balance of gyroscopic forces. This device will certainly provide a stable reference relating to direction relative to a known base point. But how exactly is this propulsion?
In the coming years we will see these technologies come to pass I can't wait to ride in one
I seen a sphere by the side of the road hovering about 10' in the air. it was late but my headlights were on the sphere and the sphere had zero lights emitting from it. it was the size of a stop sign. the sphere was not from here it had maybe 8 or more rings.. outer rings spinning slow as each inner circle was substantially faster. visually the inner core rings were blazing fast. I take this road everyday for well over half my life. it took 30 seconds afterward for what I saw to register. Northern Michigan August 2015. this research I believe is key ingredient to advancement.. please stay with it I've seen this alien tech with my own eyes but for mere seconds
the guy is just showing his 3dsmax skills after 1 year of training, gyroscopic propulsion fiction effect in his head explained in 3dsmax great... now produce the ding ding ding didididid ding ding video of the frog accelerating with this device, i m sold
Wow! You can CAD draw beyond a kindergarten level! I am so impressed, especially as your parents were first cousins n' all.
Research the terms: 1) authenticity, 2) scientific verification, 3) controlled repeatability
Then, look up the terms: 1) unproven assertion, 2) unrepeatable under controlled scrutiny, 3) quackery
Which do you think applies most realistically?
I think you have me confused with someone else -- unless you're using an alias.
so besides the fact that there are no power suplies to any of the fixed hoops, are those berrings riding on the inside or outside of it's runner? it can't do both.
Has this been officially made? If so, or something similar would be nice to own; very educational.
They can explain it, very well. There is nothing misunderstood regarding gyroscopes.
Its an intresting design, I'll bet it will at least be suficient to drive some kind of spherical outer shell. Youll need to add some kind of active controller in order to sense the current state of the rotors to drive them in sync, and a power source of some kind.
so what happens when you rotate this entire device in one direction while the inner circles are in motion, would it produce a force upon the axis that it is rotated upon?
Are these three Gyro's hollow? And if they are is there Mercury inside each one? And are you going to electrify the outer ring?
This is whats essentially used in flying saucers the only missing components are starseed crystals and vibrational capacitors.
This is something I also came up with but I call it anchor drive. The way it really works is it locks you to point space. In other words when turned on it would stick to space on the X,Y and Z axis. Depending on the time of day and month then turned on it would seem to shoot up and into space but really it is standing still and planet is moving away from it. If you set a timer so it turns off in a 225-250 million years you will find it in about the same place when it left the planet. ;-)
Hmm, interesting thought. This device would then be another solid proof of flat and stationary Earth. Pretty sure it would sit in one place day after day, year after year.
This is exactly what I've ben trying to tell people. The government have flying vehicles very similar to this. If you watched the series Project Blue Book then you may have noticed when they tested the the flying disk, gyros were spinning around the outside of it, they show us the truth you just have to be aware enough to notice and I get my info anywhere from TV and you tube to The Post calendar illustrations it amazes me when things coincidently fit together. Very good work stay curious my friend.
gravitational locking. but what gives this apparatus thrust? the slowing and speeding of particular dimensions? there is a way to do exactly what is shown here using only Neodymium magnets.
Ah. I figured probably the friction on the system would make it unfeasible, as well.
I was thinking that this might work for a small toy that just kind of bobbled in the air, but like you said, it doesn't seem efficient at all. I also don't see how it's supposed to actually move; it seems like it would be creating a similar force in all directions.
have you considered then effect of the coriolis force at high rotation rates?
The skills in 3D modeling are astonishing, now it's time to get to grips with mechanics before going public again.
OMG! that thing is so cool. I want to buy into this while it's still on the ground floor.
How do I invest in this thing?
Reminds me of the "Machine" in the movie "Contact".