well it actly happen once and youtube went full panic mode to fix it as fast as posable. the lawfullmasses youbuer chanel had that issue. also when fully qallfied lawers get fasle copyright striked and dcma is when youtube devs and google s*** there pants while they realy gets realy scared and they try to fix it as posable.
Illuminaughty just did it it to legal eagle claiming he copied her editing style and got herself canceled because everyone found out she plagiarized others after it was proven he didn't copy her generic video editing she got from documentaries.
Um. Alex's only video he uploaded on his TH-cam channel was literally about him suing TH-cam, because TH-cam didn't take down all of RT's 30something channels. Lol. He set back the TH-cam community a few years at least. TH-cam, if anything, are going to harden themselves. Hate this situation.
The only way copyright abuse will end is if we abolished copyright laws that are virtue signaled to help protect small creators from having ip stolen when in actuality court is pay to win and big collective corporations steal ip from creators and keep them from doing it on their own as a standard practice so intellectual property is just a way to control thought and the economy with only approved corporations just like what mussolini and hitler were doing with their country's corporations.
Looks like Upper Echelon got EVERYONE'S attention. Yeah, trying to ask TH-cam to Strike Down a channel for copyright WITHOUT EVIDENCE is extremely shady and criminal.
TH-cam doesn't care. The only way to affect a company, is to go for the wallet. They only do anything (or pretend to) is when they get too much negative attention.
YT creators sticking up for one of their own after he's been attacked by a bad faith lowlife is a special kind of heartwarming I didn't expect to feel today. Thank you, Mutahar.
It is the way MagnatesMedia's editing was so much more dynamic than Business Casual's as well. Color grading, dramatic effects setting a narrative tone. Wouldn't be surprised if Business Casual got jealous that someone out performed him with the same resources.
I remember that video... Swallowed it hook, line and sinker... It was a little fantastical but anger has a way of pulling the blinkers forward... not that I'm willing to let go of the anger I have towards TH-cam... Case in point. Why is it that the Copyright section of TH-cam only shows Removal requests that the creator themselves submit but doesn't show ANY information about requests that have been submitted on the entire catalog of a creator's own videos? ¬_¬ It's a wild garden, especially when one tries to be both fair and compliant. Do yeah. Hook, line and sinker... and this situation greatly diminishes the (again, fantastical) message of that video.
Lol I was cringing so hard at you guys for that. Like Alex is such a slimy guy, even the way he published the video was off considering he isn't BC and his video was nothing like the channel was using.
@@JewTube001 Ah, but you presume that people who watched the video were interested in the prior content as differing from simply watching 'somebody stick it to TH-cam'. Without context, it just came off as an over-done attempt at being "professional" and edgy and raising a ruckus over a perceived wronging. Cringing at us, especially with the benefit of hindsight, is fine, of course. ^_~
@@JewTube001 The only people who bought into that are far leftists who have such a ironically xenophobic hate boner over russia. Lets not sugar coat over the degens who mindlessly ate it up.
Only time TH-cam acts on something like this is when they are in hot water with the media or it’s damaging there brand feature man so far is a good example
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца or we have to wait until a situation ends up hurting someone involved in it then TH-cam something happens when there was a way to prevent it
Illuminaughtii did apologize for the Legal Eagle thing and a few other points, first in private then in public and publicly said she was wrong. Not a lot of tubers would do the right thing there. Legal Eagle of course, was a true gentleman and accepted her apology and never made a video about it so I tend to side with him.
The parallax effect is a really easy trick and we see it done by fashion companies on social media posts all the time. Unbelievably deplorable that business casual is filing a copyright strike over this. He knows what he is doing, and it is malicious.
I suspect it can even be automated to a significant degree with neural networks (separate image into layers by guessing distance, which NNs can do really well IIRC, and fill in the gaps by extrapolating the image, which NNs can also do quite well) PS yes, I refuse to call neural networks "AI"
@@aleksandertrubin4869 It is 'automated', you can very quickly make them with a couple of clicks in an Adobe product and in turn make that a single action that does it all for you.
@@aleksandertrubin4869 Neural network in of itself isn't an AI. Models are AI, which use neural networks as part of its function. There's still stuff like fuzzy classifiers, decision trees, etc. - stuff found in AI without machine learning.
Off topic thing I want to say. The way the lighting is put on Muta in this video makes him look menacing. Light shining on one side of the face, darkness on the other, and even the shine from his right eyeball in the darkness. He looks like he's going to send me into that darkness forcefully.
Sort of like how Bub Games went from just silly trolling videos on Pay to Win Gmod servers to exposing predators and exploitation in the Garry’s Mod community
The "Why I'm Suing TH-cam" video kept getting recommended in my feed, so his claim that TH-cam was suppressing it is, as they say in the Queen's English, utter bollocks.
Hate when grown adults throw tantrums like this Can bring the heat but not handle the smoke. Hopefully youtube swoops in and fixes this Thanks for covering it muta!! Huge fan 😊
This is more than just a tantrum, it's coldly calculated business. This guy got a payout of $70k from the court case with RT, it's pretty transparent he wants to continue that success and extort more money from other creators.
Thank you for covering this! It's too bad that, with the way TH-cam has their systems structured, "Name and Shame" is the only way that the community can stop this kind of thing right now.
Name and shame is tried and true. Historically speaking when you run the snake oil salesmen out of town he'll think twice about doing business in Kansas city Kansas I tell you hwhat.
@roguerangerroger what carrer? lmao most people on youtube will never be a real youtuber and will never be able to make a substantial amount of money from it. They usually have no more than 12 subscribers and maybe 30 views and if they have comments they're usually troll ones because they said something in a comment section someone didn't like and will never be famous.
There should be a three strike system for copyright abusers. If you are flat out using the tool in bad faith, and you can't show that you had a legitimate reason for submitting a claim, you get a Copyright Abuser strike. Three strikes and you are off the platform. That system should feel a bit more fair on both sides of the aisle.
if you're a serial copyright abuser, you should be thrown in jail like all the small fish pirates that [allegedly] cost multi-billion dollar media empires a whopping $20 in lost sales. your IP protections also should be penalized/revoked proportional to your crimes. it's already a crime to submit false claims, it's just never acted on.
Knowingly false (especially malicious) copyright strikes need to be treated like defamation and charged criminally. The most insane aspect is that you don’t even need to copystrike from the effected channels verified account or prove to any reasonable capacity whether you even have the authority to copystrike in the first place. Which is especially dangerous because even if TH-cam flags an account for filing illegitimate strikes it doesn’t even matter they can just create new accounts
As I heard one person say, abuse it. Abuse the fuck out of it. Ride that sucker as long as you can until Alphabet bucks you off the pony ride. Lousy games deserve lousy prizes.
false claims are in fact a criminal act. they need to be punished just as harshly, if not more so than the small-time pirates the media mafia makes examples of.
My theory: He literally wants youtube to delete his channel because it will look like retaliation for his lawsuit and that is exactly how he will try to make it look in court.
Thank you for covering this Muta. The guy has been a menace since his RT case. I saw Upper Echelon covered Business Casual yesterday and immediately thought you will cover this.
TH-cam never knew how to handle copyright infringement cases. Instead of proper investigation I bet they just look the video upload date and glance over videos to see what looks the same. TH-camrs should be covering and fighting these cases to force TH-cam to do more research on each case they get.
@@DarkSpells87but it's a legal process. Why do you want a private company involved in a legal dispute between two users? Dmca claims happen cross platform all the time, and only the afflicted parties are involved.
@@DarkSpells87 Despite me agreeing with this in my heart of hearts, it's never gonna be like that. It's unrealistic. TH-cam is *insanely* large now. It's thousands of videous each and every hour, you *never* will be able to afford proper amount of human reviewers for copyright claims. And it's not about money! Every system that relies upon human resources in this scale unavoidably becomes corrupt. Look at some of twitch's moderation and how "fair" that is. So you would need a veritable army of people, and smaller army to overwatch them, and some people to coordinate those. You just won't get enough people for such positions, let alone make it all work and be affordable. Oh, and considering INVOLVEMENT IN ANY LEGAL ACTIONS - this is basically a giant death flag for ANY corporation whos' product is a platform. It's like a suggestion to willingly cut your own finger with a kitchen knife because "well, that would be a right thing to do".
Muta, thank you for this. You restored my faith in you regarding this, cuz previously you had sided with this guy during his RT battle. Had it not been for UEG, i wouldn't have known that business casual is an absolute liar and skum. Magnates Media is a fantastic channel and we need everyone to call youtube out so that his channel can be saved.
Mutahar has entered the chat now Shit is real boys This should be a turning point of TH-cam’s copyright system. As this one single creep has been sparking on their entire platform.
'This should be a turning point of TH-cam’s copyright system' I feel like I've heard this phrase 50 times before in the past couple years. If a turning point hasn't happened by now, it's probably never gonna happen.
lmao you haven't seen like the 20 or 30 videos muta's made so far about people filing false copyright strikes? this isn't new its been like this for years
Thank you Muta for making videos like this, I've learned quite a lot from your insightful and informative dives into copyright systems, internet security, and everything else like gaming, virtual machines etc. Keep doing what you do, obviously YT needs your voice of reason. If everyone was as well informed the internet would be a better place. Cheers.
@@meowbahhyt It would also be better without these useless gripes, just hit dont recommend, or better yet, block the damn channel if you dont want to see it.
I mentioned this on business casuals original video comments back when he first uploaded that deceptive video. If you look at the copyright that he filed for those videos, he literally states in the form that he filed that he claims copyright over everything, but the public domain images & any versions of them featured in his videos. He KNEW he couldn't claim copyright over those yet still acted like RT "stole" from him.
@@StrawberryShartCak3 They're a pngtuber, so they're "opinion" doesn't matter. Also, they seem to have an irrational, undying hatred for Mutahar. (Probably because he called out her big daddy TH-cam)
@@gadisprettydum they can do a ton about it. A lot of it- like the strikes are basically prior to an actual full legal charge. Essentially if it isn't a serious issue YT/google handles it in house.
@@gadisprettydum fraudulent claims are a huge issue. They have finally charged a few folks for me t- like a serious legal case, and iirc he ended up having to pay like 20k per false report. One issue though is that larger channels have done the same but they don't get taken down or get a strike for it, they just seem to slide by and keep dmcs trolling. Well sometimes they hit a point or the wrong person and end up taken down. Filing a false report like that is a serious legal act, it points out on the page how serious it is, although YT/goog isn't great about it, it's another of the many issue with the system.
Ikr why attack someone who has no involvement. That's like within 2 years where just blaming every person who has Russian blood and making their lives worse
I remember the funniest part about Business Casual's claim that TH-cam was suppressing his video was that it showed up on my recommended feed despite not following him or watching any similar content
TH-cam needs to let us police ourselves a bit, but they need to do it the right way. TH-camrs like you and Charlie would be perfect for this because you're generally just calling out problems you see and trying to protect the platform for everyone. But yeah, we need you guys and many many other TH-camrs big and small to essentially become TH-cam's moderators. Obviously TH-cam has been having issues finding actual people to review these kinds of situations, so there's the fix.
How does TH-cam not have a system in place for this? How hard can it really be? I'll admit I don't know or understand how all the legal stuff here works, but why can't YT have a department of people that review these strikes and if it gets deemed as a false strike then the one that issued the original strike gets it reverted back to them as a consequence of the false strike? This, theoretically, would not only make it a much bigger decision whether you strike other creators but also shut down channels that abuse the system.
It is _extremely_ time consuming and expensive (wages.) Google does the _bare minimum_ by basically *avoiding the problem* instead of getting involved with he said, she said. Could Google do better? YES! 1. BOTH sides should be able to upload images & videos in a “rebuttal” section. 2. Assumed guilty needs to go. The current system that allows literally anyone to troll others with ZERO evidence, and the victim is ASSUMED to be guilty first and that they must prove their innocence is a HORRIBLE state because this allows for copyright trolls such as Alex to abuse the system by silencing critics. 3. Remove the 3 strikes. 4. Place penalties on those abusing the system. But thus would all take “work” so Google won’t do it.
Last time I heard of Upper Echelon, he wasn’t really liked all around (especially by DOOM fans), but to see him change so suddenly and exposing sacks of shite like this guy genuinally and pleasantly surprised me.
You're absolutely right. It's unbelievable how a scumbag like that can still do that. It's obvious he bought out the channel, not with the intent of producing content, but the only purpose to make dirty money with slimy lawsuits
You know what is odd, upper echelon media made a video on this guy, and thought that maybe this was a basis within his community, but seeing mutahar making a video on him, meaning this guy is a serious problem
Looks like UpperEchelon's wishes might be coming true, hoping to see Charlie and some other bigger YT names come out and speak on this. YT likes to wait for the masses to start stirring up a storm before they go ahead and take some kind of action...
I think a good solution is: process the copyright strike, but until it actually goes to court and settled, business as usual. That way, people won't lose their income.
That type of claim abuse should even be punished, you shouldn't be able to falsely accuse someone, legally threaten them, and when proven wrong get away with it like nothing happened.
Thank you for covering this 🙏. I saw UpperEchelon's video and it made me livid, it's hard to be able to do something as an individual - thank you for using your platform for good (in general) and especially covering this.
I remember watching Business Casual's video, was weirded out how sensational the claims in the video were. Then watched Upper Echelon's video and wasn't surprised that the guy in the Business Casual video was a nutbag.
I really like the MagnatesMedia channel, thanks for covering this and putting Alex in the spotlight. Dude's presence on the platform is like a really bad joke...in the worst way possible honestly
We can't let him get away with this. Magnatesmedia has been nothing but inspiration, pure business insights, and valuable educational content. He deserves all the success he gets
I can't believe this happened it's ridiculous, but I have seen this stuff happen to other content creators like Mercado Media. TH-cam needs to step in regarding abuse of copyright strikes
I mean, keep exposing scumbags and predators on the platform by all means. I've seen other creators make videos on topics and saying they were inspired to talk about it by you. That's how problems get fixed, people work together and spread awareness until it can't be ignored anymore.
Check out the newest podcast episode: th-cam.com/video/zm4coMOhtn8/w-d-xo.html
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Imagine trying to fraudulently copyright strike a literal lawyer channel.
Lawyer be like: Bruh
well it actly happen once and youtube went full panic mode to fix it as fast as posable. the lawfullmasses youbuer chanel had that issue. also when fully qallfied lawers get fasle copyright striked and dcma is when youtube devs and google s*** there pants while they realy gets realy scared and they try to fix it as posable.
Being a lawyer doesn't exclude you from the rules SOG fan lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt are you a bot?
Illuminaughty just did it it to legal eagle claiming he copied her editing style and got herself canceled because everyone found out she plagiarized others after it was proven he didn't copy her generic video editing she got from documentaries.
I honestly think the only way copyright abuse is going to change if someone sues TH-cam over it because only then will they make change.
That's a great thing unless well, they drain youtube's profits....
Um. Alex's only video he uploaded on his TH-cam channel was literally about him suing TH-cam, because TH-cam didn't take down all of RT's 30something channels. Lol. He set back the TH-cam community a few years at least. TH-cam, if anything, are going to harden themselves. Hate this situation.
Just use your own content and you have nothing to worry about like a vlog lol meow 😺 SOG has a bad voice
BIllions of youtubers would've sued years ago if they could. 😒
The only way copyright abuse will end is if we abolished copyright laws that are virtue signaled to help protect small creators from having ip stolen when in actuality court is pay to win and big collective corporations steal ip from creators and keep them from doing it on their own as a standard practice so intellectual property is just a way to control thought and the economy with only approved corporations just like what mussolini and hitler were doing with their country's corporations.
This platform will LITERALLY never change, the people behind youtube don't care about anything else other than money.
Ahh yes the capitalist mindset, fuck over the little
Oh no, capitalism, what a nightmare
Wow who fucking knew
thats just capitalism in a nutshell though
Sog only cares about money too your point lol meow 😺
Looks like Upper Echelon got EVERYONE'S attention.
Yeah, trying to ask TH-cam to Strike Down a channel for copyright WITHOUT EVIDENCE is extremely shady and criminal.
TH-cam doesn't care. The only way to affect a company, is to go for the wallet. They only do anything (or pretend to) is when they get too much negative attention.
I heard of Upper Echelon
@@VikingTeddy TH-cam has negative attention up the ass, and they STILL don't care.
@@VikingTeddy That's what Bungie is for.
Sad that it took people this long to know UEG warning for quite some times
Another day, another copyright abuser on TH-cam. Why are people like this allowed to stay on the platform?
Because TH-cam is shit
Imagine thinking someone not wanting you to use their content is that vlog and use copyright free content or something else.
@@meowbahhyt imagine making a fake account to defend yourself 😂
@@meowbahhyt Hey little scamming sissy
@meowbahhyt it wasn't even their content, and Buisness basics is a liar.
YT creators sticking up for one of their own after he's been attacked by a bad faith lowlife is a special kind of heartwarming I didn't expect to feel today. Thank you, Mutahar.
This isn't therapy bro.
It is the way MagnatesMedia's editing was so much more dynamic than Business Casual's as well. Color grading, dramatic effects setting a narrative tone. Wouldn't be surprised if Business Casual got jealous that someone out performed him with the same resources.
it's not even BC though. and even BC didn't edit his own videos, he had a guy for that.
"He" didn't have a guy. It was created and he bought the content and channel
TH-cam needs to get rid of a lot of scumbags 😂
Like me
Many of whom work at TH-cam HQ
They do... But those damn things are like a Hydra. They remove 1 and like 3 more scumbags take their place.
Including Quantum TV right?
SOG should start with himself lol meow 😺
Thank you for covering this, Muta! I knew you wouldn't stand for this shite! Keep being awesome!
SOG isn't awesome he just says what makes him 🤑 he's a talentless soul
@@meowbahhyt the bait is out of this world
@@meowbahhyt ew meowbah
British people 💀
Seems like someone wants to get some likes on their meaningless comment.
Dang...now I feel bad asking muta to cover that lawsuit by business casual...glad he dug deeper and let us know how this guy really is.
I remember that video... Swallowed it hook, line and sinker... It was a little fantastical but anger has a way of pulling the blinkers forward... not that I'm willing to let go of the anger I have towards TH-cam...
Case in point. Why is it that the Copyright section of TH-cam only shows Removal requests that the creator themselves submit but doesn't show ANY information about requests that have been submitted on the entire catalog of a creator's own videos? ¬_¬
It's a wild garden, especially when one tries to be both fair and compliant.
Do yeah. Hook, line and sinker... and this situation greatly diminishes the (again, fantastical) message of that video.
Lol I was cringing so hard at you guys for that. Like Alex is such a slimy guy, even the way he published the video was off considering he isn't BC and his video was nothing like the channel was using.
@@JewTube001 lol love that name
@@JewTube001 Ah, but you presume that people who watched the video were interested in the prior content as differing from simply watching 'somebody stick it to TH-cam'.
Without context, it just came off as an over-done attempt at being "professional" and edgy and raising a ruckus over a perceived wronging.
Cringing at us, especially with the benefit of hindsight, is fine, of course. ^_~
@@JewTube001 The only people who bought into that are far leftists who have such a ironically xenophobic hate boner over russia. Lets not sugar coat over the degens who mindlessly ate it up.
Only time TH-cam acts on something like this is when they are in hot water with the media or it’s damaging there brand feature man so far is a good example
And even then it gets worse if they are in hot water. Well for some, like COPPA or the whole family friendly thinh
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца or we have to wait until a situation ends up hurting someone involved in it then TH-cam something happens when there was a way to prevent it
Wow who fucking knew
SOG did the same with ET lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt ?
That illuminaughty copyright thing spiraled into something way worse and showed how bad of a person she is
Haven't watched her for a couple of years, what happened since then?
@@soriddosuneko same, but I recommend watching the clicks response to illuminuaghty for context
@@imgrim391 gotchu, thanks:)
Illuminaughtii did apologize for the Legal Eagle thing and a few other points, first in private then in public and publicly said she was wrong. Not a lot of tubers would do the right thing there. Legal Eagle of course, was a true gentleman and accepted her apology and never made a video about it so I tend to side with him.
@@tangentartists6876 her apology also had a part where she basically called the click a pedo, some good ol deflection; that backfired hard
The parallax effect is a really easy trick and we see it done by fashion companies on social media posts all the time. Unbelievably deplorable that business casual is filing a copyright strike over this. He knows what he is doing, and it is malicious.
I suspect it can even be automated to a significant degree with neural networks (separate image into layers by guessing distance, which NNs can do really well IIRC, and fill in the gaps by extrapolating the image, which NNs can also do quite well)
PS yes, I refuse to call neural networks "AI"
@@aleksandertrubin4869 It is 'automated', you can very quickly make them with a couple of clicks in an Adobe product and in turn make that a single action that does it all for you.
I mean it's basically just a filter these days. Lol my phone does similar shit all the time with pics I've taken.
@@aleksandertrubin4869 Neural network in of itself isn't an AI.
Models are AI, which use neural networks as part of its function. There's still stuff like fuzzy classifiers, decision trees, etc. - stuff found in AI without machine learning.
one can make this shit in html5/css3 in a few lines, you don't need adobe and surely you don't need ai
ai got your minds..
Off topic thing I want to say. The way the lighting is put on Muta in this video makes him look menacing. Light shining on one side of the face, darkness on the other, and even the shine from his right eyeball in the darkness. He looks like he's going to send me into that darkness forcefully.
Dundundunnnn
Now I can't enjoy the video without seeing that...
Now I can't enjoy the video without seeing that...
Nigga, you might be gay
The only super villain I would let send me into an etnernal purgatory 🫀✨️
UEG going from making Red Dead 2 tips and tricks to deep dives exposing shady business practices and politicians is such a wild character arc.
I miss his drunken rants while playing The Division
@@DavidWoodMusic Those were hilarious.
Sort of like how Bub Games went from just silly trolling videos on Pay to Win Gmod servers to exposing predators and exploitation in the Garry’s Mod community
I like that channel because me and him are anti genshit impact.
The "Why I'm Suing TH-cam" video kept getting recommended in my feed, so his claim that TH-cam was suppressing it is, as they say in the Queen's English, utter bollocks.
Don't know why but fancy English sounds so funny
@@guardianofthetoasters2323 It's even funnier when it's spoken.
Thank god that this has surfaced to a bigger platform. I really hope that MagnatesMedia can get his channel back
Hate when grown adults throw tantrums like this
Can bring the heat but not handle the smoke. Hopefully youtube swoops in and fixes this
Thanks for covering it muta!! Huge fan 😊
"Hate when grown adults throw tantrums" That's unfortunately most of the internet. (Especially the Sonic fanbase.)
This is more than just a tantrum, it's coldly calculated business. This guy got a payout of $70k from the court case with RT, it's pretty transparent he wants to continue that success and extort more money from other creators.
@@Piss_Off_Plz where did the sonic fandom come from?
Ain’t saying you wrong but it just caught me off guard 😅
@@Piss_Off_Plz bruh the fact that most of sonic games are just decent or straight up bad make me wondering how this fandom still alive....
@@NetBattler My sentiments exactly.
Thank you for covering this! It's too bad that, with the way TH-cam has their systems structured, "Name and Shame" is the only way that the community can stop this kind of thing right now.
**Insert* *Meowbahh* *getting* *mad* *at* *people* *calling* *out* *TH-cam* *and* *complaining* *about* *Mutahar* *or* *something* *here**
@@Piss_Off_Plz any moment now
@@Piss_Off_Plz They're already in the comments posting weird stuff.
Man their channel is a lot of actual trash.
@@tropicalvikingcreations Agreed.
Name and shame is tried and true. Historically speaking when you run the snake oil salesmen out of town he'll think twice about doing business in Kansas city Kansas I tell you hwhat.
Man, even the "DOOR STUCK!" guy lost his own video. TH-cam is too big to be handled by humans, AI is doing a horrible job 😔
I'm so glad you're covering this. Upper Echelon has been covering this for a while. Business casual is a freaking wack job.
Here to support MagnatesMedia. S tier production. Fight this DMCA abuse clown.
The guy who sent out those strikes needs to be arrested
Not that deep TH-cam isn't a job only chronically online people like SOG care
@@meowbahhytlol stop your own TH-cam career then😂
@roguerangerroger what carrer? lmao most people on youtube will never be a real youtuber and will never be able to make a substantial amount of money from it. They usually have no more than 12 subscribers and maybe 30 views and if they have comments they're usually troll ones because they said something in a comment section someone didn't like and will never be famous.
@@meowbahhyt Bot
@@meowbahhyt Hypocrite lol meow 😺
There should be a three strike system for copyright abusers. If you are flat out using the tool in bad faith, and you can't show that you had a legitimate reason for submitting a claim, you get a Copyright Abuser strike. Three strikes and you are off the platform. That system should feel a bit more fair on both sides of the aisle.
TH-cam doesn't care. As long as they're making money they never care.
if you're a serial copyright abuser, you should be thrown in jail like all the small fish pirates that [allegedly] cost multi-billion dollar media empires a whopping $20 in lost sales. your IP protections also should be penalized/revoked proportional to your crimes. it's already a crime to submit false claims, it's just never acted on.
Great idea. Less chance you would think of it being abused like it obviously is here.
Knowingly false (especially malicious) copyright strikes need to be treated like defamation and charged criminally. The most insane aspect is that you don’t even need to copystrike from the effected channels verified account or prove to any reasonable capacity whether you even have the authority to copystrike in the first place. Which is especially dangerous because even if TH-cam flags an account for filing illegitimate strikes it doesn’t even matter they can just create new accounts
Nah proof of ownership of copyright should be required to takedown, that's all
As I heard one person say, abuse it. Abuse the fuck out of it. Ride that sucker as long as you can until Alphabet bucks you off the pony ride. Lousy games deserve lousy prizes.
false claims are in fact a criminal act. they need to be punished just as harshly, if not more so than the small-time pirates the media mafia makes examples of.
The DMCA already has you state that takedown notices are accurate under penalty of perjury
@@alex15095 DMCA laws haven't been updated since 1998.
My theory: He literally wants youtube to delete his channel because it will look like retaliation for his lawsuit and that is exactly how he will try to make it look in court.
I'm seriously so glad you covered his video about suing youtube. It was mindboggling to see the amount of support he got for that unhinged video.
It felt like people read the description and called it a day back then
Trying to put a copyright strike on the History Channel is probably the most Karen thing I’ve seen in a while
I didn't think that kids would bring the playground rules with them until these copyright abusers appeared on the internet...
This is what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum.
Thanks for covering this, Muta man. I saw the Upper Echelon video and was happy to see you talk about it.
I am so happy you covered this!
I watch Upper Echelon's coverage & thought It would be dope if you covered the story in support
ugh, I hope we don't go down the road of copyrighting editing styles, especially something as common as a parallax effect
Thank you for covering this Muta. The guy has been a menace since his RT case. I saw Upper Echelon covered Business Casual yesterday and immediately thought you will cover this.
There's a lot of scumbags TH-cam needs to get rid of.
TH-cam never knew how to handle copyright infringement cases. Instead of proper investigation I bet they just look the video upload date and glance over videos to see what looks the same. TH-camrs should be covering and fighting these cases to force TH-cam to do more research on each case they get.
TH-cam isn't involved in the process at all. It's between the claimant and the person being claimed since there not allowed to give legal advice
@@mayoplayingwumbologistmd4389 yes, but they should get involved.
@@DarkSpells87but it's a legal process. Why do you want a private company involved in a legal dispute between two users? Dmca claims happen cross platform all the time, and only the afflicted parties are involved.
@@DarkSpells87 Despite me agreeing with this in my heart of hearts, it's never gonna be like that.
It's unrealistic. TH-cam is *insanely* large now. It's thousands of videous each and every hour, you *never* will be able to afford proper amount of human reviewers for copyright claims.
And it's not about money! Every system that relies upon human resources in this scale unavoidably becomes corrupt. Look at some of twitch's moderation and how "fair" that is.
So you would need a veritable army of people, and smaller army to overwatch them, and some people to coordinate those.
You just won't get enough people for such positions, let alone make it all work and be affordable.
Oh, and considering INVOLVEMENT IN ANY LEGAL ACTIONS - this is basically a giant death flag for ANY corporation whos' product is a platform. It's like a suggestion to willingly cut your own finger with a kitchen knife because "well, that would be a right thing to do".
TH-cam is doing better than you would do make your own site and then talk lol meow 😺
Muta, thank you for this. You restored my faith in you regarding this, cuz previously you had sided with this guy during his RT battle. Had it not been for UEG, i wouldn't have known that business casual is an absolute liar and skum. Magnates Media is a fantastic channel and we need everyone to call youtube out so that his channel can be saved.
Yeah UEG makes some really good videos and the only reason I knew about this before UEG made his video was because some of the comments on that video
You lost faith in him that easily? Damn.
If you lost faith in Muta you’re nuts
@@newyorksoda yeah i agree. Especially his recent videos are awesome. On twitter bot problems and such.
SOG is overrated and just using y'all for 🤑 lol meow 😺
Mutahar has entered the chat now
Shit is real boys
This should be a turning point of TH-cam’s copyright system. As this one single creep has been sparking on their entire platform.
Hopefully
'This should be a turning point of TH-cam’s copyright system'
I feel like I've heard this phrase 50 times before in the past couple years.
If a turning point hasn't happened by now, it's probably never gonna happen.
SOG is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt youre funny
lmao you haven't seen like the 20 or 30 videos muta's made so far about people filing false copyright strikes? this isn't new its been like this for years
LMAO BRO YOU DROPPED THIS VIDEO WHILE WE WERE RECORDING THE PODCAST TALKING ABOUT HIM. YOU MADLAD.
Even the camera gets scared when Muta yells
Man I remember siding with this guy with the whole Russia Today drama. Can't trust no one.
"Trust no one. Not even yourself" -Some unfunny meme
Upper Echelon is how I found out about it. Magnates Media produces really well made content, and it’s sad they have to suffer from this.
Eww echelon that guy is gatekeeper Supreme
Shoutout to my boy Upper Echelon
Me, too. I‘m just here to signal boost with a like and a comment. =)
@@pugsmeller307I have no idea what you’re on about.
same watched that video early in the morning
Thank you Muta for making videos like this, I've learned quite a lot from your insightful and informative dives into copyright systems, internet security, and everything else like gaming, virtual machines etc. Keep doing what you do, obviously YT needs your voice of reason. If everyone was as well informed the internet would be a better place. Cheers.
It makes me wonder how bad YT would be if creators like Muta, Coffee, Charlie weren't on the platform.🤔
bad, probably
YT would be better without there bad takes filling my recommended lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt It would also be better without these useless gripes, just hit dont recommend, or better yet, block the damn channel if you dont want to see it.
far far far worse, making 1984 look like a absolute joke
content would be shit.
I mentioned this on business casuals original video comments back when he first uploaded that deceptive video. If you look at the copyright that he filed for those videos, he literally states in the form that he filed that he claims copyright over everything, but the public domain images & any versions of them featured in his videos. He KNEW he couldn't claim copyright over those yet still acted like RT "stole" from him.
Thank you for giving Upper Echelon a shoutout Muta 👍
I've never heard of this man, thank you for bringing this up Mutahar.
I've never heard of a cutie like you, thank you for bringing this up Mutahar.
@@grease08 worst rizz
@@darioo3186 Bros got that nonexistent rizz 💀
@@darioo3186 Lol thx
@@grease08 I think you're cute too uwu
TH-cam will never work against it's own interests, and it's in TH-cam's best interest to keep channels up that earn them Ad Revenue.
Wow a comment that can explain everyone what a bad take lol meow 😺 SOG fans are lost
@@meowbahhyt Grammar?
@@StrawberryShartCak3 They're a pngtuber, so they're "opinion" doesn't matter. Also, they seem to have an irrational, undying hatred for Mutahar. (Probably because he called out her big daddy TH-cam)
@@meowbahhyt You're a PNGtuber, so your "opinion" doesn't matter lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt bot
God damn YT still having this massive issues after all this time smh
They really need to get their shit together and fix things up.
@@gadisprettydum they can do a ton about it. A lot of it- like the strikes are basically prior to an actual full legal charge. Essentially if it isn't a serious issue YT/google handles it in house.
@@gadisprettydum fraudulent claims are a huge issue. They have finally charged a few folks for me t- like a serious legal case, and iirc he ended up having to pay like 20k per false report. One issue though is that larger channels have done the same but they don't get taken down or get a strike for it, they just seem to slide by and keep dmcs trolling. Well sometimes they hit a point or the wrong person and end up taken down.
Filing a false report like that is a serious legal act, it points out on the page how serious it is, although YT/goog isn't great about it, it's another of the many issue with the system.
Thank you for your unbiased content. Much love from Russia, Muta
Go cope,bakmut gains reverted.
@@agentorange9867 huh?
@@ravos2173 He is reffering to the fact that contractors fro. Wagner pmc aren't leaving Bakhmut and are getting support
@@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678 i understand, i just don’t know why to bring it up here and try to “insult” me or idk
Ikr why attack someone who has no involvement. That's like within 2 years where just blaming every person who has Russian blood and making their lives worse
Mutahar is TH-cams janitor at this point
I first heard of this from MagnatesMedia when Alex almost got him removed for the platform by falsely copyright striking him.
Thank god. Everyday I see a video like this my heart skips until I find out it's not about me. One day...
???
WHAT⁉️🔥
For a moment I thought it was iDubbbz in the thumbnail, and I couldn't tell if I agreed or disagreed with this take.
😂
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was iDubbbz lmao
@@amadmanhere lol I was like, "iDubbbz? Scumbag? Hmm. Maybe???"
I remember the funniest part about Business Casual's claim that TH-cam was suppressing his video was that it showed up on my recommended feed despite not following him or watching any similar content
i just cant get over somebody making a video about suing youtube and then uploading it on youtube..
TH-cam needs to let us police ourselves a bit, but they need to do it the right way. TH-camrs like you and Charlie would be perfect for this because you're generally just calling out problems you see and trying to protect the platform for everyone. But yeah, we need you guys and many many other TH-camrs big and small to essentially become TH-cam's moderators. Obviously TH-cam has been having issues finding actual people to review these kinds of situations, so there's the fix.
It needs to be policed by people who don’t vote.
Make your own site and you can do this lol meow 😺Why would TH-cam let SOG fans run it lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhyt i hope you get spayed meow
Meowbahhh is super cringe
@@turboshazed7370 I guess meowbahh crawling around comments coping about muta is a step up from their average discord degeneracy...
Thank you for covering this, Muta!
This man cleaning up yt
Real.
This man being cute.
@@grease08 🤨📸
@@grease08 why he cute but not meeeee?
I’m literally like and old person watching Muta as a news station, love this stuff.
Crazy how close in timing this is to the whole iiluminaughtii vs legaleagle thing
Thank you for covering this! I love Magnates Media!
How does TH-cam not have a system in place for this? How hard can it really be? I'll admit I don't know or understand how all the legal stuff here works, but why can't YT have a department of people that review these strikes and if it gets deemed as a false strike then the one that issued the original strike gets it reverted back to them as a consequence of the false strike? This, theoretically, would not only make it a much bigger decision whether you strike other creators but also shut down channels that abuse the system.
It is _extremely_ time consuming and expensive (wages.) Google does the _bare minimum_ by basically *avoiding the problem* instead of getting involved with he said, she said.
Could Google do better? YES!
1. BOTH sides should be able to upload images & videos in a “rebuttal” section.
2. Assumed guilty needs to go.
The current system that allows literally anyone to troll others with ZERO evidence, and the victim is ASSUMED to be guilty first and that they must prove their innocence is a HORRIBLE state because this allows for copyright trolls such as Alex to abuse the system by silencing critics.
3. Remove the 3 strikes.
4. Place penalties on those abusing the system.
But thus would all take “work” so Google won’t do it.
@@MichaelPohoreskigo full thermonuclear and abuse the system full tilt. Fuck em.
Muta, please highlight the abusive practices of Businesss Casual
Archivers and Kiwi Farms Archivers are based
The internet never forgets.
If TH-cam was suppressing this guy's notifications, why would they tell him... They'd just suppress the error message or alert.
OMG, I watched Upper Echelon earlier and now, Muta.. Coffezilla needs to be next.
"we have Coffeezilla at home", Scott Shafer posted about it as well.
It's good to see videos like this that debunk bull****.
Last time I heard of Upper Echelon, he wasn’t really liked all around (especially by DOOM fans), but to see him change so suddenly and exposing sacks of shite like this guy genuinally and pleasantly surprised me.
bro trying to copyright strike a lawyer channel like challenging a crocodile to a meat buffet competiton
Thank you for all your amazing videos Muta!!
15:26 Wow, copyright striked a segment of a video that is a picture publicly accessible/usable from the Library of Congress. What a clown.
I’m having a bad day but I’m still smiling
Copyright abuse to get rid of the competition channel. Basically same as patent trolling.
Scott Shafer also covered this very well earlier today.
I thought that was Neil Cicierega, I was gonna get worried
Was really sad magnes would get take down. So glad he's getting support from bigger guys like Charlie and mudahar
"every TH-cam channel falls off"
Some of us never rose up 😭
You're absolutely right. It's unbelievable how a scumbag like that can still do that. It's obvious he bought out the channel, not with the intent of producing content, but the only purpose to make dirty money with slimy lawsuits
You know what is odd, upper echelon media made a video on this guy, and thought that maybe this was a basis within his community, but seeing mutahar making a video on him, meaning this guy is a serious problem
Muta always keeps it real.
Except when he endorsed ET because all he cares about is 🤑
@@meowbahhyt tf is ET bait boy
@@enderguardian7443 It stands for Extra Terrestrial, decent 80s movie.
@@meowbahhyt bot
@@meowbahhyt At least Mutahar makes content that's actually worth a while compared to you. All you care about is a brief flicker of attention and 🤑.
We've been asking for this to be fixed since the leafy days
Looks like UpperEchelon's wishes might be coming true, hoping to see Charlie and some other bigger YT names come out and speak on this.
YT likes to wait for the masses to start stirring up a storm before they go ahead and take some kind of action...
Muta and Charlie are now my new trusted news source
They are both lazy reactors lol meow 😺
@@meowbahhytyeah and your videos are so cringe i couldn't be bothered to watch any one of your videos.
@@meowbahhyt bot
I like both of them but if I were you I would do my own research on any topics.
@@meowbahhyt That's rich coming from you. You're a disappointment to your family lol meow 😺
I think a good solution is: process the copyright strike, but until it actually goes to court and settled, business as usual. That way, people won't lose their income.
That type of claim abuse should even be punished, you shouldn't be able to falsely accuse someone, legally threaten them, and when proven wrong get away with it like nothing happened.
Who TF is on the video thumbnail and why does he look like Scott the Woz and iDubbbz had a baby
fr i thought it was idubbz
Would it be called = Scobbbz the iwoz or iscottz
Thank you for covering this 🙏. I saw UpperEchelon's video and it made me livid, it's hard to be able to do something as an individual - thank you for using your platform for good (in general) and especially covering this.
I remember watching Business Casual's video, was weirded out how sensational the claims in the video were. Then watched Upper Echelon's video and wasn't surprised that the guy in the Business Casual video was a nutbag.
Dang I'm glad someone with a platform is talking about this. I saw magnates community post yesterday
And the reason to prevent Russian creators to monetize their videos is..?
They should be also doing this for Ukraine if that is so.
I really like the MagnatesMedia channel, thanks for covering this and putting Alex in the spotlight. Dude's presence on the platform is like a really bad joke...in the worst way possible honestly
Why pay money for Tim Hortons, when there's free water in the toilet?
Thanks for covering this! We need more people making an issue of this.
We can't let him get away with this. Magnatesmedia has been nothing but inspiration, pure business insights, and valuable educational content. He deserves all the success he gets
Some people just don't deserve the internet man
I can't believe this happened it's ridiculous, but I have seen this stuff happen to other content creators like Mercado Media. TH-cam needs to step in regarding abuse of copyright strikes
I mean, keep exposing scumbags and predators on the platform by all means. I've seen other creators make videos on topics and saying they were inspired to talk about it by you. That's how problems get fixed, people work together and spread awareness until it can't be ignored anymore.
TH-cam be like: Unless you cut into our profits, we don't care lol.
Man, another copyright dispute on this platform? Must a day that ends with... day.
I was at the internet and realized TH-camDramaImma1st on this video