Is that the girlie guy voice? Cause seriously it’s a tiny bit embarrassing to have my speaker up with it talking like that. And I haven’t heard that voice in a long time.
So great to hear Violet's voice again... as a late-era GR person, I 'grew up' hearing her voice and find it as iconic as Cap ramblings and Simba's sanity. btw, living on the country just 20 miles from a state capital, we 'collect' cats that are dumped by the city folk. "5" is a fairy constant number here. Our most recent addition was given the name Violet** by Jan, and we immediately realized how difficult it was to call her name at feeding time. So, the customary re-naming exercise ensued :i.e. throw a thousand other V-names at the wall and see which one she responds to. Her choice? VELOCITY ... I kid you not... we have a Newtonian Vector embodied as a cat. aka V-Lo, Violet was a name which was familiar in our house when I first met GR. ... Imagine my surprise when I found our V-Lo had a voice, and she flew in GR. My mind's eye has created a visual character sketch for her : a very focused, black. long-haired cat piloting an F-16, with a dapper and fiery Red Baron scarf flapping under the open canopy. This may or may not be an accurate description of the GR Violet, but it is an entertaining one (to me), and somehow fitting in the (heretofore unpublished) squadron lineup photo with Cap and his SpikeHawk and Simba's flowing mane. Hm.... it may be time to do some quick AI graphics work... **my Violet's initial presentation : 8 months old and in heat... Our only male cat (Ranger) had been neutered just weeks before and was soooo very confused as to what to do about her... but he still had enough of his wits about him to politic for her acceptance into our house. "Dad, she's fun... confusing to me in my altered state, but fun.. can we keep her?" Ranger was very persistent, and we are glad he won the day. Violet, forever. (also, I may have typed something similar a few years back... or possibly typed/deleted? Oh well, being of advancing chronologic age, sometimes old thoughts seem like new again... dementia much, Randy? Perhaps.)
I know the guys don't like flying 5th gen but this is the exact sort of mission that you would use an F-22 for. Much less worry about SAM's and you'd be able to stick with the B-2 and only move out to intercept the Iranians when they get close to missile range. I would be interested to see how that version of the mission would play out.
@@EnigmaHoodbruh…the F22 being an escort in this is kinda obvious. Idk how you read “be able to stick with the B2 and only move out to intercept the iranians” and interpreted it as the B2, a strategic bomber with no air-to-air capability, intercepting Iranian fighters while the F22, an air superiority fighter with minimal air-to-ground capability, does the bombing with ordinance only a strategc bomber can carry.
@@jackrr1832 The problem is that the S-400 radars can likely detect stealth aircraft. Russia claims that S-400 can defeat stealth, but whether it can get a homing solution is a different question. In any case, they'd scramble fighters and launch drone interceptors as soon as they're detected. The disadvantage of stealth is their low missile capacity, once they run out of missiles, they're helpless. Launch enough done interceptors, let the F-22s waste all their missiles on them, and then they're vulnerable to any fighter. The F-22s also can't defend effectively over enemy airspace, if they fly low to defend (which is how they always defend in DCS), they'd get shot down by SHORAD and even Manpads.
@@dbrownss1480yeah, 5 t of tnt that went 150 m underground. That's like saying copper shaped charge rounds only get 8 % of material through, but against armor, that's a kill.
The actual reality is that we would take out all those radars and AD long before a B2 flys into country, with the only exception being that it’s stealth is just way more effective that we know.
A stealth bomber would not fly with its bomb doors open as it increases the radar cross section. They are open only long enough to drop the bomb and then immediately close.
Those MOPs are extremely compact for something that weighs over 12 tons! I guess that a fairly big portion of it is some dense material like tungsten to facilitate penetration through concrete and steel. The principle they use, though, is not so far off Barnes Wallace's original conception of the Grand Slam, from around 1940.
This. My guess is Iran is afraid of losing their grip on the populace, who actually don't like the regime by and large, so they are trying to galvanize national support against a foreign "enemy". I think what might happen instead is Israel cripples their economy leading to a revolt like 1979.
I've read that the Mullah's are hiding in deep bunkers after firing all those missiles into Israel afraid that they'd gone too far this time. Perhaps they have.
I thought that was the raison d'etre of the April 19th demo? To put The Fear into those gallant god-botherers. th-cam.com/video/yzaFtGvY6IU/w-d-xo.html However I don't watch TV because I live under a rock, so I may well be wrong.
So you would rather he made it a night mission instead? That would make a terrible, pitch black and pointless TH-cam video. Do people think before they post idiotic replies??
It would be interesting to do the same test with the Bone flying low and fast for this operation. It would be less of a loss in terms of capital and less risk in potentially giving up classified tech if B2 is shot down.
You said "cachet" when I think that you mean "cache" (pronounced cash) Cachet is a mark of distinction, cache is something valuable that is kept in a secure location
@@TheWinning247I'm British and I say 'cash' , as I believe do most Brits. The word in this context does not have an accent, so not the French pronunciation.
its because the flight models for almost all mods are simple and lack feeling. makes the game numb. really ruined the experience and it doesn't represent the game its self all that well.
Are ARM's (Anti-Radiation Missiles) in DCS? Poking out the enemy's eyes would seem to be good tactics...especially targeting that stealth detecting over the horizon radar.
They have HARMs yes. But they are really for when you want to follow up with massive strikes on everything, or if you needed to knock something out on the way in. Either way they'll know you're coming from the first pop. This case the idea was to get in and on target before they could respond, and there was a small gap to get through without being detected.
35:00 Of the planned 165 B-2s, just 21 were built before the program was cancelled. There have been four accidents involving a B-2. Of those one was repaired and another is being repaired now, leaving only 19 left in service.
the flight models are trash and because its a mod there are things don't interact with the game very well. and when you fly mods every video for almost two years it causes you to lose enjoyment in the game.
Much different outcome if 5th gen fighters were used. Even with 4th gen you got close. I think Violet was a little rusty but that’s expected if she’s been out for a while
Because stealth missions are done at night. If you don't lose your 4th generation, why send in a stealth aircraft. An Strike Eagle can make quick work better than a F-35.
yeah have they been combat tested? Lets keep in mind about decoys. They fool enemy radar as well and force them to drain munitions or these aircraft can target the radar sites. F-35 and F-22 can't carry decoys with sacrificing stealth. Also we gonna be coming from a completely different direction then what they expect and also not all there combat aircraft can defend because some could be broken down without parts, maintenance or other Inconvenience. And long detected before they reach the target? There gonna be flying low or covered by jamming if you understand earth curves then you know low attitude helps getting close to the target.
While I know you guys don’t use them because they’re less fun, I am curious as to how different this mission would’ve been had to guys used 5th gen aircraft?
Could we get the "Dance of the Vampires" but with F-14's upgraded with AIM-174B? I know you did a 2020's version with updated Russian bombers and a modern US Carrier fleet but I'm wondering could just upgrading the F-14's with AIM-174B change the outcome? (Or maybe AIM-174B and one or two modern AWACS.) You might need to change the tactics or the US fleet reaction somewhat from the story to for a significant outcome change to be possible. Maybe the modern AWACS detect the bombers sooner, spoil the trap? Anyway it's just an idea. At the very least its another comment for the algorithm. (last note: if this scenario doesnt work is there another better scenario with Tomcats using AIM-174B? I just think it is such a cool missile and fits the Tomcat mission so well.)
Aren't those VHF systems capable of detecting stealth aircraft because they detect everything? It can detect them, but will struggle to figure out what's a stealth bomber and what's a swarm of mosquitoes.
@mattm7798 no, they're only available as mods which can have many issues, even different issues for different people. It's one of the reasons GR don't fly them much. Slightly less issues with the AI mods, like the B2.
People are saying they sent 4th gen fighters instead of 5th gen cause they had to take out Iran's air defenses. That's a false choice. Use TLAMs and 4th gen for that, but escort the B2's with F-22s.
3:58 Except they can. Iran has disposable drone interceptors. They are launched similarly to missiles, but they aren't, they're drones. They launch these drones defensively, and don't require a target lock. They just fly in the general direction of the stealth aircraft, and if the drones aren't shot down by the attackers, they would get within range to where they can get a target lock with their own a2a missiles, and shoot down the bombers.
" I said 009 not 090, you are going on a different direction" LOL. "I am dropping to 90% RPM"??? You mean reducing thrust down to 90%, you don't measure Jets in RPM.
How about you guys create a fake campaign - divide in 2 teams, you have to take each other's base, you have 2 pieces of land before that main base, you take turns into being attacker/defender, you have a number of bombers, fighter jets, naval units, sams, etc and you need to use your forces to complete the mission (bombing enemy base and then landing on their airfield to capture it), you can have A.I. assisted bombers, ICBMs, but you only have a limited amount of planes and ordinance so you have to think before each attack and also think on how to use your resources well to defend. You get extra planes/ordinance after each attack/defense based on how many bases you have - so it is not good to put all your defenses on the last line as the enemy will have more resources and will overwhelm you. Your teams will be divided by 2 sides and the forces will have to amount to more or less the same power, just different tech (U.S./Euro vs Russian/Eastern tech). Each attack/defend phase will go as follows: Air superiority phase - focused on air-to-air. As an attacker, if you take over you go to the air-to-ground mission with Warthogs, Apaches and have a chance to either destroy enemy supplies, or fly a supply mission for yourself to your newly acquired base (and the defending team, who lost, will have an attacker phase against your supplying mission). Players will control ground units as well, so it is not going to be so easy to just destroy everything. Teams will take turn until the last base is captured. Also, there is a minimum amount of aircraft and defenses, so it does not matter if the opponent used everything on the 2nd to last base, they will still have a minimum force to defend the last base and have a chance of comeback. Of course, as the attacker will have a supply advantage (they can choose to do a resupply mission and the last base defender will attack that - if the supply mission is successful, you will be granted extra units on the next mission. If you failed, you are down the amount of aircraft you lost in combat which makes a compelling case to sometimes abort a mission and save your expensive planes such as F-22 , SU-57 jets and such).
I have witnessed stealth aircraft that ground personel have walked into on the ground and injured themselves. Also your thumbnail is of a B-21 not a B-2.
16:38 Question, is this ground radar picking up SAM sites or is it pre programmed into the jet's computer? So in real life, US intelligence would be able to say "these SAMS are here" and then the pre flight upload would place them there in the computer?
Neither, that's the EW screen showing emissions received from outside the plane and looking up in an in-plane database what the type of it is. One plane on its own at a single point in time can only calculate type and bearing but with multiple planes on data Link or integration over time you can calculate range as well.
Iran isn't Yemen, the Iranians are on the leading edge on concrete development, they have access to UHPC and there are actual multilayer designs. This is equivalent to the composite armor of tanks, you can create composite armor using different types of soft and hard UHPC. A bomb that penetrates 60 meters of regular concrete or rock might even be able to penetrate 6 meters of UHPC. The MOP will probably not be capable to deal with the Iranian bunkers, nuclear weapons might be the only option for such targets. Destroying the entrances might be the only way to deal with those bunkers, blast doors might protect them from thermobaric bombs and there might be too many tunnels-entrances for each ammo storage.
It won't work. Even assuming that the aircraft aren't detected and shot down (the S-400 is purported to be able to do this), the GPS guidance would be jammed by Murmansk systems. The MOP is useless without precision guidance.
I suppose the real question about wether or not this mission (in real life) would be succesfull, would be less about being able to get into iranian airspace, and more about wether or not they would be able to actually reach deep enough with the weapons. The MOP can penetrate about 60 meters of ground or normal concrete. Western estimates talk about the iranian underground nuclear facilities possibly being about 80-100 meter deep. We don't know so it might be less but possibly even more, and that's already more than the 60 meter penetration capability of the MOP. Plus they dug it under a mountain, which means it might be a whole lot more meters of ground the weapons would have to penetrate. And on top of that, i would imagine the iranian bunker ceilings are probably also made out of special hardened bunker concrete. The iranians are leading in this technology. In a video from curious droid, he states the toughness of the strongest iranian bunkerconcrete, will diminish the penetration capability of MOP, from the 60 meters through normal concrete, down to a mere 2 meters. All that in mind, even if the US should help with B2's so the MOP can be used, even this weapon might not be enough to get that deep down.
4:20 The SU-35s might be in Iran already, but are being piloted by Russians. This is likely due to the fact that Iranians haven't finished training on how to fly them yet. Once training is complete, they would be transferred to Iran. But it's very likely that if Iran is attacked, the SU-35s would be used to defend Iran, but the pilots are Russians.
And the US has the F-35, F-22, AIM-120D-3, AARGM-ER, Super Hornets with AIM-174B, F-15E, and F-16s with AN/APG-83. Evrrything shown in this simulation was extremely outdated on the US side.
The USAF would SEAD the heck out of Iran before they would risk a B2 over Iran. And it would absolutely be at night.
Nice to have Violet back. Sexy formation landing at the end!
Is that the girlie guy voice? Cause seriously it’s a tiny bit embarrassing to have my speaker up with it talking like that.
And I haven’t heard that voice in a long time.
Violent Violet's back!!
So great to hear Violet's voice again... as a late-era GR person, I 'grew up' hearing her voice and find it as iconic as Cap ramblings and Simba's sanity.
btw, living on the country just 20 miles from a state capital, we 'collect' cats that are dumped by the city folk. "5" is a fairy constant number here.
Our most recent addition was given the name Violet** by Jan, and we immediately realized how difficult it was to call her name at feeding time. So, the customary re-naming exercise ensued :i.e. throw a thousand other V-names at the wall and see which one she responds to.
Her choice?
VELOCITY
... I kid you not... we have a Newtonian Vector embodied as a cat.
aka V-Lo, Violet was a name which was familiar in our house when I first met GR.
... Imagine my surprise when I found our V-Lo had a voice, and she flew in GR.
My mind's eye has created a visual character sketch for her : a very focused, black. long-haired cat piloting an F-16, with a dapper and fiery Red Baron scarf flapping under the open canopy. This may or may not be an accurate description of the GR Violet, but it is an entertaining one (to me), and somehow fitting in the (heretofore unpublished) squadron lineup photo with Cap and his SpikeHawk and Simba's flowing mane.
Hm.... it may be time to do some quick AI graphics work...
**my Violet's initial presentation : 8 months old and in heat...
Our only male cat (Ranger) had been neutered just weeks before and was soooo very confused as to what to do about her... but he still had enough of his wits about him to politic for her acceptance into our house.
"Dad, she's fun... confusing to me in my altered state, but fun.. can we keep her?"
Ranger was very persistent, and we are glad he won the day.
Violet, forever.
(also, I may have typed something similar a few years back... or possibly typed/deleted?
Oh well, being of advancing chronologic age, sometimes old thoughts seem like new again... dementia much, Randy? Perhaps.)
“Hello valued viewers” is the most wholesome intro I think I’ve ever heard. It gets me every time.
14:07 yes yes let your inner Ace Combat flow through you, FLY THROUGH THE TUNNEL
I know the guys don't like flying 5th gen but this is the exact sort of mission that you would use an F-22 for. Much less worry about SAM's and you'd be able to stick with the B-2 and only move out to intercept the Iranians when they get close to missile range. I would be interested to see how that version of the mission would play out.
F-22 can't carry any bunker busters that can actually penetrate deep enough. That's assuming the S-400 doesn't just detect it, and shoot it down.
@@EnigmaHood I meant as the escort instead of F-16s and 18s.
@@EnigmaHoodbruh…the F22 being an escort in this is kinda obvious. Idk how you read “be able to stick with the B2 and only move out to intercept the iranians” and interpreted it as the B2, a strategic bomber with no air-to-air capability, intercepting Iranian fighters while the F22, an air superiority fighter with minimal air-to-ground capability, does the bombing with ordinance only a strategc bomber can carry.
True, but F22/35 would be heavy guess work in any model in DCS whereas 4th gen is pretty much public knowledge by now.
@@jackrr1832 The problem is that the S-400 radars can likely detect stealth aircraft. Russia claims that S-400 can defeat stealth, but whether it can get a homing solution is a different question. In any case, they'd scramble fighters and launch drone interceptors as soon as they're detected. The disadvantage of stealth is their low missile capacity, once they run out of missiles, they're helpless. Launch enough done interceptors, let the F-22s waste all their missiles on them, and then they're vulnerable to any fighter. The F-22s also can't defend effectively over enemy airspace, if they fly low to defend (which is how they always defend in DCS), they'd get shot down by SHORAD and even Manpads.
I’m guessing: YES
Haha right. Iran might get lucky but their technology is not even in the same weight class as current gen.
30K lbs dropped from 40K feet must be an unbelievable amount of kinetic energy... like the Rods from God.
terminal velocity is the same regardless
Someone did the calculations of the hypothetical rods from god and it wasn't that impressive. Less than 5t of tnt.
Dumb bombs hit a terminal velocity too, due to air resistance, somewhere around 550-650 mph. Kinetic Energy is mostly a function of speed.
Rods from god could be very good as bunker busters. Extreme dense and a lot of knietic energy. More than air dropped bombs i guess
@@dbrownss1480yeah, 5 t of tnt that went 150 m underground. That's like saying copper shaped charge rounds only get 8 % of material through, but against armor, that's a kill.
No one knows the technical details of stealth aircraft apart from a few lucky pilots and Engineers and of course WarThunder Forum Moderators
The actual reality is that we would take out all those radars and AD long before a B2 flys into country, with the only exception being that it’s stealth is just way more effective that we know.
The thing with accurate bunker busters is that you can always hit the same spot again for deeper penetration.
That’s what she said…..
Exactly.
Even a 5th grader knows what a waste of time it is to dig sand LMAO
@@ariaspes3842 iranian facilities are under rocky mountains not sand
Those 2 MOPs on the F16 was hilarious.
I wanted to see Cap try to fly that one
A stealth bomber would not fly with its bomb doors open as it increases the radar cross section. They are open only long enough to drop the bomb and then immediately close.
Those MOPs are extremely compact for something that weighs over 12 tons! I guess that a fairly big portion of it is some dense material like tungsten to facilitate penetration through concrete and steel.
The principle they use, though, is not so far off Barnes Wallace's original conception of the Grand Slam, from around 1940.
Gotta replay the mission from red's perspective now.
I was just thinking that!
Agreed.
This is that kind of "We want to use a nuke but can't, so we made this" weapon.
I’m thinking they blew the development money on beer and wound up with a short deadline so the fired the engineers and called jimbob and earl
@@streetcop157this isn't Russia.
Even a 5th grader knows what a waste of time it is to dig sand LMAO
You lost a B-21???
$700 million and three lives...Not acceptable
Fortunately real life would go very different than this.
@@140theguy you mean the pilots would go the right direction when given a heading? 😆
Best part is the radar mistakes rain for enemy lmao
Fun fact: Many drop tanks that landed intact in Vietnam were turned into canoes, some of which are used to this day.
Wow
I'm pretty sure fairly soon we gonna find out courtesy of the IDF just how deep 5gen planes can reach into Iran
They will fire albm's, so there is no need for 5th gen or getting into iranian air space.
This. My guess is Iran is afraid of losing their grip on the populace, who actually don't like the regime by and large, so they are trying to galvanize national support against a foreign "enemy". I think what might happen instead is Israel cripples their economy leading to a revolt like 1979.
I've read that the Mullah's are hiding in deep bunkers after firing all those missiles into Israel afraid that they'd gone too far this time. Perhaps they have.
I thought that was the raison d'etre of the April 19th demo? To put The Fear into those gallant god-botherers.
th-cam.com/video/yzaFtGvY6IU/w-d-xo.html
However I don't watch TV because I live under a rock, so I may well be wrong.
The f 35 can't really make it that deep due to fuel constraints. But I doubt the Iranians would know anything was there until the bombs impacted.
Violets back !!!
Violet is back?? Yay!!!
Cool! Stealth mission in broad daylight - what could go wrong?
So you would rather he made it a night mission instead? That would make a terrible, pitch black and pointless TH-cam video. Do people think before they post idiotic replies??
He’s addressed this before. Bad for YT vid.
@@cree71cjm Do they have room for coffins? LMAO
Capt, the UK done this first - The tall boy - and the grand slam - we rock. Violet is back i feel contentment.
Different reasons for those but yeah, they were similarly massive fuck-off heavy bombs
These are the videos you should be making
It would be interesting to do the same test with the Bone flying low and fast for this operation. It would be less of a loss in terms of capital and less risk in potentially giving up classified tech if B2 is shot down.
Worth a go.
Hey Violet long time no see
glad to be back, gonna be a bit rusty as I've been gone for just over a year XD
Hello Cap! We all hope your health is doing well!
2:30 don't forget the "claimed" efficiency of Radar Systems :) on a bad day, ground radar can surely be replaced by two people with binoculars.
got attended to two seconds later - cheerio.
You said "cachet" when I think that you mean "cache" (pronounced cash)
Cachet is a mark of distinction, cache is something valuable that is kept in a secure location
No, he got it right. He’s an Englishman, speaking English, using a shared French word. Cachet (cachè) is the proper pronunciation.
Those French can’t spell 😂
@@TheWinning247I'm British and I say 'cash' , as I believe do most Brits. The word in this context does not have an accent, so not the French pronunciation.
30,000 lbs of freedom 😂 love the commentary, Cap. Well fought and flown Reapers 🇺🇸
How the hell did you say penetrate that many times with zero giggities? Quite impressive. Tanks Cap!
I had an "off day".
@@grimreapers 😄
DARK with the MVP , “Oh, I thought I had them locked.”😂
DCR really needs the Buccaneer ;-)
Hey Cap, why do the boys not want to fly Raptors?
its because the flight models for almost all mods are simple and lack feeling. makes the game numb. really ruined the experience and it doesn't represent the game its self all that well.
@@simba1113 thanks for explaining, Simba.
Penetrating bomb obs got the bots excited 😮😂 interesting mission
Are ARM's (Anti-Radiation Missiles) in DCS? Poking out the enemy's eyes would seem to be good tactics...especially targeting that stealth detecting over the horizon radar.
I believe they do have HARMs.
They have HARMs yes.
But they are really for when you want to follow up with massive strikes on everything, or if you needed to knock something out on the way in. Either way they'll know you're coming from the first pop.
This case the idea was to get in and on target before they could respond, and there was a small gap to get through without being detected.
@@mildmanneredthinkingman9323they certainly do. But their range is limited comparatively.
@@mildmanneredthinkingman9323 Even Iran's ancient OTH radars will see that beer can miles before satellites or radars FFS LMAO
Hi Cap. Hope you're improving. Not sure why you're getting demonitized. Their putting two full advertising on your clip. Someone is making money.
Yes tell me about it...
This is one of those missions where i can imagine CAP reprising his best Top Gear impression "ambitious but rubbish"
35:00 Of the planned 165 B-2s, just 21 were built before the program was cancelled.
There have been four accidents involving a B-2. Of those one was repaired and another is being repaired now, leaving only 19 left in service.
Why don't "the boys" like to fly 5th gen aircraft?
the flight models are trash and because its a mod there are things don't interact with the game very well. and when you fly mods every video for almost two years it causes you to lose enjoyment in the game.
@@simba1113 thanks for the response!
not combat ready lmao
Much different outcome if 5th gen fighters were used. Even with 4th gen you got close. I think Violet was a little rusty but that’s expected if she’s been out for a while
A while is an understatement XD
been a little over a year at this point lol
Why bother if you're sending in 4th gens? Clearly the IRL mission worked with no losses. I doubt they sent f-18s for overwatch, but f-22/f-35s.
All 4th gens would be destroyed by SAMs and drone interceptors. Anything left over would be cleaned up by the air force.
The B2s attacked Yemen not Iran. Houthis have no air force and no real air defence network. It would take more assets to succeed against Iran.
Because stealth missions are done at night. If you don't lose your 4th generation, why send in a stealth aircraft. An Strike Eagle can make quick work better than a F-35.
He says this all the time but the guys don’t want to play the game when it’s too easy so they enjoy missions with 4th gen.
You're mixing up Iran and Yemen... At least try to keep up mate...
I know it makes it less cinematic, but this should be a night mission.
The mission failed due to the fourth-gen escorts.
no we did the same mission with F-35's as the bomber and didn't fail.
Great formation on the return leg 🔥Does DCS model the fuel burn reduction you'd get from flying like 🦆 the way it works IRL? 🙌.......
yeah have they been combat tested? Lets keep in mind about decoys. They fool enemy radar as well and force them to drain munitions or these aircraft can target the radar sites. F-35 and F-22 can't carry decoys with sacrificing stealth. Also we gonna be coming from a completely different direction then what they expect and also not all there combat aircraft can defend because some could be broken down without parts, maintenance or other Inconvenience. And long detected before they reach the target? There gonna be flying low or covered by jamming if you understand earth curves then you know low attitude helps getting close to the target.
Wooww Grandios landing nicely done !!!
While I know you guys don’t use them because they’re less fun, I am curious as to how different this mission would’ve been had to guys used 5th gen aircraft?
I danced under the name “giant penetrator” in college…this was before the truth in advertising laws were really enforced though.
I have serious doubts that Iran will ever get those planes.
The plane in the thumbnail is the B-21, not the B-2. You can tell by the trailing edge, the B-2 is scalloped, the B-21 is just a triangle
NO doubt in my mind. Bunker Buster.
there are multiple videos of the SU-35s being delivered to iran almost a year ago now
why don't you fly f-35 for sead mission?
15:15 is that Simba showing cap how to hug the ground?
I watch this and think of Queen's "One Vision"
Could we get the "Dance of the Vampires" but with F-14's upgraded with AIM-174B? I know you did a 2020's version with updated Russian bombers and a modern US Carrier fleet but I'm wondering could just upgrading the F-14's with AIM-174B change the outcome? (Or maybe AIM-174B and one or two modern AWACS.) You might need to change the tactics or the US fleet reaction somewhat from the story to for a significant outcome change to be possible. Maybe the modern AWACS detect the bombers sooner, spoil the trap? Anyway it's just an idea. At the very least its another comment for the algorithm. (last note: if this scenario doesnt work is there another better scenario with Tomcats using AIM-174B? I just think it is such a cool missile and fits the Tomcat mission so well.)
Cool
After action report: no medals awarded
Dam it!
The MOP is a Boeing product?. I'm surprised it made it to its target instead of exploding in mid-air.
oof
'Cache' is pronounced 'CASH'! Caché is something different.
That is the same word in different languages. English and French. Either way, it still means "a place things are stored."
resonance radar can get messed up by Solar storms messing with the Ionosphere....
MOP: What happens when you PAY Boeing to blow the doors off
Ya'll seriously got eaten up by the Iranian AF and F-14s..??
Can they use an IRST on hotter engined planes, like F-35s and 22s?
I looked into their IR ground launched missiles and mot struggle to get up to 40,000ft from what I found. Some might be able to.
@@grimreapers do they have the R-27T/ET on migs and tomcats?
Aren't those VHF systems capable of detecting stealth aircraft because they detect everything? It can detect them, but will struggle to figure out what's a stealth bomber and what's a swarm of mosquitoes.
I have no idea TBH.
What is worst, losing a underground weapons bunker or a B-2 spirit bomber?
I love these videos but I think this is the difference between real life, immense training and technology versus us guys playing games
Yup
Well No B2's would be in a highly contested airspace without f22's for cover.
Violet doing violet things😅😅😅
would you expect anything less XD
They’re under a mountain of rock, so only the entrances.
Well, this video didn’t age well
Possibly.
Why no F22s and F35s? No way it would be F16s and F18s except in the rear.
Are F22s and F35s modeled in the game?
@mattm7798 no, they're only available as mods which can have many issues, even different issues for different people.
It's one of the reasons GR don't fly them much.
Slightly less issues with the AI mods, like the B2.
12:50 can a modern aircraft "see" the areas of missile defense radar like this?
Yes and/ or no.
I believe they can have the suspected zones drawn on the screen. (Like in caps f16)
Yes they can BUT if the Iranians are smart they can actually trick the attacking planes into thinking SAMs are in different places.
People are saying they sent 4th gen fighters instead of 5th gen cause they had to take out Iran's air defenses. That's a false choice. Use TLAMs and 4th gen for that, but escort the B2's with F-22s.
The loss of a B21 would cost like 2 billion, wouldn’t it?
F-16 with these bombs is gorgeous! xD
What mach would 7km/s at 400km altitude be? I think the ISS might JUST be safe :P
When pronouncing cache as in weapons cache the e is silent. I do love the videos though, just a tip for the future.
Big Boys!!
Iranian F14s don't have the Phoenix missile...you may want to rerun this with their basic armament...
3:58 Except they can. Iran has disposable drone interceptors. They are launched similarly to missiles, but they aren't, they're drones. They launch these drones defensively, and don't require a target lock. They just fly in the general direction of the stealth aircraft, and if the drones aren't shot down by the attackers, they would get within range to where they can get a target lock with their own a2a missiles, and shoot down the bombers.
" I said 009 not 090, you are going on a different direction" LOL. "I am dropping to 90% RPM"??? You mean reducing thrust down to 90%, you don't measure Jets in RPM.
It is just me or the saw wing design resemble the b-21 more than the b-2
Er, that was a B21, as CAP discussed in briefing…
@@Davros-vi4qg ahhh ok yeah i missed that since i just kinda skip to the mission itself
Q. would formation landings be performed INRL?
If so, why?
Yes they def are. I see them.
How about you guys create a fake campaign - divide in 2 teams, you have to take each other's base, you have 2 pieces of land before that main base, you take turns into being attacker/defender, you have a number of bombers, fighter jets, naval units, sams, etc and you need to use your forces to complete the mission (bombing enemy base and then landing on their airfield to capture it), you can have A.I. assisted bombers, ICBMs, but you only have a limited amount of planes and ordinance so you have to think before each attack and also think on how to use your resources well to defend. You get extra planes/ordinance after each attack/defense based on how many bases you have - so it is not good to put all your defenses on the last line as the enemy will have more resources and will overwhelm you.
Your teams will be divided by 2 sides and the forces will have to amount to more or less the same power, just different tech (U.S./Euro vs Russian/Eastern tech).
Each attack/defend phase will go as follows:
Air superiority phase - focused on air-to-air. As an attacker, if you take over you go to the air-to-ground mission with Warthogs, Apaches and have a chance to either destroy enemy supplies, or fly a supply mission for yourself to your newly acquired base (and the defending team, who lost, will have an attacker phase against your supplying mission). Players will control ground units as well, so it is not going to be so easy to just destroy everything.
Teams will take turn until the last base is captured. Also, there is a minimum amount of aircraft and defenses, so it does not matter if the opponent used everything on the 2nd to last base, they will still have a minimum force to defend the last base and have a chance of comeback. Of course, as the attacker will have a supply advantage (they can choose to do a resupply mission and the last base defender will attack that - if the supply mission is successful, you will be granted extra units on the next mission. If you failed, you are down the amount of aircraft you lost in combat which makes a compelling case to sometimes abort a mission and save your expensive planes such as F-22 , SU-57 jets and such).
I have witnessed stealth aircraft that ground personel have walked into on the ground and injured themselves. Also your thumbnail is of a B-21 not a B-2.
I pressed the new ASK button and asked if Cap was British. And the AI concluded you were American.
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16:38 Question, is this ground radar picking up SAM sites or is it pre programmed into the jet's computer? So in real life, US intelligence would be able to say "these SAMS are here" and then the pre flight upload would place them there in the computer?
Neither, that's the EW screen showing emissions received from outside the plane and looking up in an in-plane database what the type of it is.
One plane on its own at a single point in time can only calculate type and bearing but with multiple planes on data Link or integration over time you can calculate range as well.
Does the sun rise in the east and set in the west?
The F-16 has to be one of my favourite aircraft ever. It so sexy. 🤭
No because IDF will have to do it without our bombers . running a special soon with 20 % off and free shipping...
Iran isn't Yemen, the Iranians are on the leading edge on concrete development, they have access to UHPC and there are actual multilayer designs.
This is equivalent to the composite armor of tanks, you can create composite armor using different types of soft and hard UHPC.
A bomb that penetrates 60 meters of regular concrete or rock might even be able to penetrate 6 meters of UHPC.
The MOP will probably not be capable to deal with the Iranian bunkers, nuclear weapons might be the only option for such targets. Destroying the entrances might be the only way to deal with those bunkers, blast doors might protect them from thermobaric bombs and there might be too many tunnels-entrances for each ammo storage.
The Israeli Air Force made it through the Iranian air defense in f35 so the b2 will be easily undetected
It won't work. Even assuming that the aircraft aren't detected and shot down (the S-400 is purported to be able to do this), the GPS guidance would be jammed by Murmansk systems. The MOP is useless without precision guidance.
I suppose the real question about wether or not this mission (in real life) would be succesfull, would be less about being able to get into iranian airspace, and more about wether or not they would be able to actually reach deep enough with the weapons.
The MOP can penetrate about 60 meters of ground or normal concrete. Western estimates talk about the iranian underground nuclear facilities possibly being about 80-100 meter deep. We don't know so it might be less but possibly even more, and that's already more than the 60 meter penetration capability of the MOP. Plus they dug it under a mountain, which means it might be a whole lot more meters of ground the weapons would have to penetrate.
And on top of that, i would imagine the iranian bunker ceilings are probably also made out of special hardened bunker concrete. The iranians are leading in this technology. In a video from curious droid, he states the toughness of the strongest iranian bunkerconcrete, will diminish the penetration capability of MOP, from the 60 meters through normal concrete, down to a mere 2 meters. All that in mind, even if the US should help with B2's so the MOP can be used, even this weapon might not be enough to get that deep down.
So then you drop 2.
1 after the other, both hitting the same spot.
Sir. U got smoked
4:20 The SU-35s might be in Iran already, but are being piloted by Russians. This is likely due to the fact that Iranians haven't finished training on how to fly them yet. Once training is complete, they would be transferred to Iran. But it's very likely that if Iran is attacked, the SU-35s would be used to defend Iran, but the pilots are Russians.
They are still in Russia...
@@jjanovsky1983 Oh right, I forgot you went to Iran and checked. 🤡
@@EnigmaHood No, you fool, they are visible on satellite images - still sitting in Russia...
@@jjanovsky1983 Prove it.
@@EnigmaHoodprove Russian pilots will fly the dam things 😂😊
Iran has S-300 and S-400............... put that in your simulation .
And the US has the F-35, F-22, AIM-120D-3, AARGM-ER, Super Hornets with AIM-174B, F-15E, and F-16s with AN/APG-83. Evrrything shown in this simulation was extremely outdated on the US side.