I'm a giant Coltrane fanboy, but Mingus's "Black Saint and The Sinner Lady" is impressive and made a huge impact on me. It's like what Hendrix would do if he played jazz. What a ride.
I loved Mingus. So many great albums. But was he truly influential? Some folks are so unique that they carve a path totally their own. Thoughts, anyone?
Aargh!! The only 'Best' jazz album is the one you, personally, find yourself playing over & over again. This is art, folks. It's bad enough when people make top ten lists of their favorite sports stars; but at least in that field they can attempt to justify their picks with their scoring & win stats-of-choice. In the arts, all you can do is cite sales numbers, or prices fetched by visual works, etc. 'Best' in the arts is all a left-brain after-the-fact construction (usually proclaimed by non-artists). Explore the rich bounty of all eras of jazz, and decide what _YOU_ like - nothing else matters.
@@normanhall8435 The discussion may be fun, but Bests and Top Ten lists and G.O.A.T.s etc drive me batty. It's like: we've been brain-washed to think we need some kind of rational structure in order to _justify_ our tastes and attractions and sensibilities - _aargh!_ And vice-versa: In this culture, when we really like something, we feel compelled to pronounce it The Best, in some fashion, as if just personally enjoying it is somehow incomplete.
Thanks for the list. For fun I came up with my list. I was going for some alternate directions. Hard to argue top 10 style choices for a player vs a listener. Armstrong - Hot 5 and 7 Blanton Webster band- Ellington Love Supreme - Coltrane Ahmad’s Blues - Ahmad Jamal Quintet live at Massey Hall Koln Concert - Keith Jarrett Monks Music - Thelonious Monk Miles - Nefertiti Jimmy Guiffre 3 Miles- Kind of Blue
I'm not sure which Nat "King" Cole album I'd recommend, but you should consider him a really important innovator in Jazz piano. He invented the left hand chord comp style. I'd also give a nod to French Jazz composer Claude Bolling and the album "Suite for Flute and Jazz Piano Trio" solely for the song "Baroque and Blue." It's a delightful mix of Jazz and Classical music that lifts the spirits. And, while it's not innovative or particularly inspirational comparatively to other better albums, Vince Guaraldi's "The Charlie Brown Christmas" album is extremely important for the simple reason it introduced and popularized Jazz music to a huge segment of the population that had never listened to Jazz before.
Great podcast. Thanks! However, significant misses Thelonious Monk - Monk’s Music (1957) Charles Mingus - Ah Um (1959) Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (1964) Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - Getz / Gilberto (1964) Weather Report - Heavy Weather (1977) Oscar Peterson - Oscar Peterson Live! (1986)
I would nominate 'Louis and Ella' from 1956, they were backed by Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown and Buddy Rich. 'Blue Rose', also from the mid '50, has Billy Strayhorn playing piano for a youthful Rosemary Clooney, joined by the Ellington Orchestra. 'Diggin Up Bones' has John, Martin and Bucky Pizzarelli, Rebecca Kilgore and other jazz musicians joining The West Texas Tumbleweeds for jazz treatments of country tunes. 'Old Sock', with Eric Clapton displaying a charming voice on some jazz standards. 'Happy Feet' with Emilie Claire Barlow doing some Canadian Scat.
As a list of albums by jazz styles and development, it’s good Giant steps is there but if I would put a list of best albums for getting into jazz, Blue train would have the be on it! It’s probably my favorite jazz album, it’s just perfect and Moments notice is a masterpiece!
Coltrane’s Ballad album is awesome. Easily digestible as opposed to Giant Steps. Early swing players like Charlie Christian and Lester Young are great places to start
Everybody puts "Kind of Blue"on these lists.I really think the 5 albums, with the quintet that preceded it, get overlooked. I love Red Garland and Philly Joe Jones on those recordings. Best band ever!
The first record by that first quintet was the very first jazz record that I totally soaked up, to the point where I could hum all the solos, etc. Mega group, with young John and the great Paul Chambers as well.
Kind of Blue needs to be everyones list …especially if they are trying to immerse themselves in jazz and don’t have any background in the genre. Like me! It really opened my ears and made other recordings…..more listenable to a kid.
I have been watching YT for Jazz videos of this nature. Yours is incredibly informative with great suggestions for jazz listening. My only disappointment was no mention of the greatest jazz guitarist, Wes Montgomery. However, I am now a subscriber and look forward to more of your material.
Excellent list. I know you were covering genres and applying an album to each. But man, if I were just listing great albums, would be hard to make a list with out Chet Baker's "Chet" (call that best ballads maybe) and Bill Evans' "Live at the Village Vanguard" (best live record). But great list and great explanations.
My favourite jazz album goes back to mid fifteen when I was a boy now an old man it still is my favourite and it is Henry Mancini soundtrack for the tv series of that time Peter Gunn.
my personal sphere of interest in Jazz is Art Blakey's Moanin album in fact most Blue Note era, Hard Bop and later Modal, post bop it seems. Thanks for a great lesson!
I have all of those albums except the Louis Armstrong and Ornette Coleman ones. I never could get into Ornette's thing. Still, not bad! I've been playing jazz for over 40 years, although the bulk of my income comes from playing pop music. Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to make a living playing jazz for most practitioners.
I'm surprised that Basie and Monk aren't included! Also, Pat Metheny is missing: he's the biggest influence on modern jazz guitarists, including Rosenwinkle
Does anyone consider Man from Two Worlds by Chico Hamilton, Gary McFarland and Bill Evans at Town Hall, Art Pepper Meets The Rythym Section for starters?
For Bebop, you should've said Bird, The Complete Savoy & Dial Master Takes vs "The Quintet" bro, way mor Jazz Standards on my album brother, & Miles' Birth of the Cool, over Brubeck all day man. For Modern Jazz IT's A Must to include Roy Hargrove, Russell Gunn & good job mentioning Glasper bro.
i think at the cafe bohemia by the messengers is a better example of pure hard bop greatness. it features the earliest messengers lineup(hank mobley, kenny dorham, horace silver, doug watkins).
For sure - his takes on The song is you from Paris are unique. What is even more impressive is that when you study him you see that some of his lines are very simple scale runs which everyone practices but can't include so easily and effortlessly in his playing. His music just flows in a way that it very unique - it can be liked even by people that don't like jazz. This whole evolution not only fusion but the modern playing - playing outside, melodic cells, pentatonic patterns I just can't get and I try every couple of years. I appreciate their technique but it just does not have that melodic element to it for me. Older jazz was primarily music. Now it is turned to be primarily jazz and not so much just an evolution of pop songs where it all started.
@@billmurphy3510I agree, Bill. What I love perhaps the most (?) about jazz is the amazing variety of sounds that a jazz instrument can produce. Classical devotees never seem to mention this. I love Gervase de Peyer playing Mozart's clarinet music, but then I can sit back, enjoy (and laugh!) at the wonderful sounds produced by Pee Wee Russell! Artie Shaw and Benny Goodman don't sound the same. Hawkins, Webster, Rollins, Getz, all so different in sound. Nobody sounds like Bix. And only Louis had that youthful golden tone that CB had. When people talk about the Bell on a trumpet I immediately think of Clifford, certainly not of Miles. Miles was clever to exploit so successfully the Harmon mute and I love albums like 'Workin' and 'Steamin'. I love his early work and his Carnegie Hall concert. Technique, of course, is no substitute for musicality and 'soul'. Love Art Tatum and I guess you'll love Otis Spann. I'm a great believer that great songs have shaped much of what is wonderful in all music for more than 100 years. Classical music has under appreciated this and suffered accordingly. So has 'fusion' or whatever people want to call it. Jazz singers today are rarely jazz singers. I almost never hear a good one. They all claim to have learned from Sarah and Billie and Ella - very few have, I think. I heard Samara Joy for the first time recently. A good jazz voice, inflection, swing, musicality, good feeling for lyrics BUT her backing group sounded like something from the 1940s! Have these jazz producers never listened to Oscar Peterson, Jimmy Rowles, Joe Pass, Herb Ellis etc. etc. ?
Saying he outshone Miles is an opinion dude.. Maybe technically but that's about it. Then again your little comment about fusion shows just where you're coming from...
This is wonderful. outlook on Jazz Music, I'm impressed with the way you give the student the history, of the different areas of Jazz Music. suggestion would teach more about Horace Silver when you talk about Hard Bop Art Blakey and Horace Silver invented, Hard Bop alone with Benny Golson.
your list makes sense and you present it very well. Of course, I disagree, but that is natural. My list is not in chronological order but here you are: Davis, Miles Kind of blue Ellington, Duke Complete Columbia and RCA Victor sessions with Ben Webster Coltrane, John The complete 1961 Village Vanguard tapes Parker, Charlie Complete Dial masters Mingus, Charles Ah um Evans, Bill The complete Village Vanguard recordings Monk, Thelonious Genius of modern music volume 2 Dolphy, Eric Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot volume 1 Taylor, Cecil Jumpin' punkins Coleman, Ornette Beauty is a rare thing - the complete Atlantic recordings
Nice selection! I like the idea of selecting according jazz eras or styles. Would you let me comment your video in my channel? It is about jazz records precisely.
The most modern person you discussed is Rosenwinkel, who is 52 years old. What about Thundercat or DOMi & JD Beck? Young people learning jazz need to understand that it’s not just the music of their grandparents.
If I remember correctly Wynton Marsalis said that Jazz had reached its pinnacle. Do you agree? Wynton Marsalis is not mentioned here why? Looks like he is not that influential. BTW I seldom listen to his playing and am not really familiar with many of the songs he composed. Past masters are the best and almost all of them are blacks. BTW this video gives some useful info, thanks.
"virtuostic'"? 😁 He's about a decade off on his dates. Jazz was first recorded in 1917 (ODJB), not the 1900s. Swing started in the '30s, maybe the seeds around '27 or '28 but the '40s is swing's heyday. Same with bebop, definitely the roots and first outings in the late '40s, but the '50s are the bop era. And he follows the popular conception that Miles is the most important jazz musician, but jazz heads will say Satchmo, Duke and probably Bird moreso, all who were more virtuosic and better composers than Miles. And what about Monk who is one of the great giants of jazz. Just some alternative perspectives, but I do like his choice of albums.
10 records are not enough. Monk and Mingus are missing. I would have choosen Miles's and Gil Evans 'birth of the cool' instead of Brubeck. Weather Report would have been a good choice for electric/fusion. And Wayne Shorter's quartet is missing (b Blade, j Patitucci, d Perez). And Jim Hall, Keith Jarrett, Pat Metheny. And Carla Bley and Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra. And Bill Evans trio with Scott LaFaro and Paul Motian recorded live at village vanguard June 25th 1961. John Coltrane's 'love supreme' is also a record to keep in the list. No singer in your list. Don't forget Ella Fitzgerald , Billie Holiday and Mahalia Jackson.
A Love Supreme is, in my humble opinion, not only one of the greatest JAZZ albums of all time, but one of the greatest MUSIC experiences of all time, on my personal list with Bach's Brandenburg concerti, Beethoven's 9th symphony, Led Zeppelin's 4th album ("symbols") and a few others that would be in my 'desert island' music collection.
I would definitely mention Keith Jarrett. His solo improvisations are unique and some of the longer pieces are unbelievable in their improvisation. The Köln concert is a must. If you want to stretch a little to the other side of the pond I could imagine having Esbjorn Svensson Trio in there.
Nice video! I guess for someone like me who grew up listening to rock (and pop in the 70s), albums like "Heavy Weather", "Spectrum", "Inner Mounting Flame" and "Headhunters" were examples of ones that opened my ears and probably more important made me curious enough to start to look at the connection people like Herbie Hancock or Wayne Shorter or Joe Zawinul had to the music that preceded (and influenced) them.
I think those all would be descendants of Bitches Brew IMO. I am a bigger fan of those you mentioned but they all start with Bitches Brew, or In A Silent Way which he didn’t mention, but I think having those AND Bitches Brew would be redundant.
I agree with most of these selections. I think for early jazz, you need to listen to Sidney Bechet to get a broader perspective. The next era, Count Basie was a major contributor. And the Bebop era was Thelonious Monk. Monk along with Charlie Rouse brought it to another level. For the modern era, Wynton and Branford Marsalis kept things going. Black Codes From The Underground is a staple.When it goes to other side of more popular Jazz, David Sanborn was the king of modern Sax. I recently saw him with Bob James playing the songs from the album Double Vision. That is the one modern jazz album everyone should listen to.
I will say that the Ornette Coleman is **hard work** so newbs be aware. The most 'fun' jazz album for me is Charles Mingus 'Mingus Ah Um'. It's got 'Good Bye Pork Pie Hat on it and is in the US National Recording Registry along with others from this list.
"10 Best" can presented in different contexts. I like very much that you presented your "best" list in an historical context. Please, more presentations with an historical approach.
Crucial albums missing: Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream Charles Mingus - Ah Um Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady Cecil Taylor - Jazz Advance Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus John Coltrane - A Love Supreme Lee Morgan - Search for the New Land
I think that Clifford Brown is more influential than Lee Morgan in modern jazz trumpet. My personal favourite among his albums is "C. Brown and M.Roach at Basin Street ", (with Sonny Rollins on tenor), but if you wanted to include a Messenger´s recording, a good choice is "A night at Birdland" with Blakey and Brown.
Lee Morgan is my favorite jazz musician but I would agree with this. I think if Clifford Brown didn’t pass away young, he would have surpassed Lee Morgan and definitely would’ve competed Miles for the top spot.
I’ll go ahead and rattle off some jazz albums that have helped me be a better drummer: Sonny Stitt- Blows The Blues John Coltrane- Crescent John Coltrane- Black Pearls Joe Henderson- In Japan Joe Henderson- Power To The People Freddie Hubbard- Red Clay Ornette Coleman- The Empty Foxhole Sonny Rollins- Saxophone Colossus Sonny Rollins- Tenor Madness Lee Morgan- Cornbread
Paul Gonsalves and Bobby Hackett both studied guitar with my grandfather Joe Petteruti in Providence, RI during the 1930s at our family music store Twin City Music.
Understandable that there are only 10 spots and you can't include everything but Clifford Brown deserves a mention at least in some way. Don't know if he has a complete album that has that much influence as those here but his playing definitely is up there in terms of quality and influence.
One thing I find so intriguing is that 'Trane influenced as many, if not more, guitarists, particularly rock/pop guitarists, than sax players. The Byrds' Roger McGuinn has mentioned that the intro solo and solo in Eight Miles High was inspired by Coltrane.
For a jazz guitar player, I would include Django Rheinhardt and Wes Montgomery, and if you venture from jazz into bossanova I would add Baden Powell. For a piano player, I would include Oscar Peterson and Thelonious Monk. Singers almost need to listen Ella Fitzgerald and dare I say Sinatra? The record that finally got me into jazz was "My favorite things" by Coltrane. The mellow accessibility of it broke my resistance against the intrinsic aggressiveness and intellectuality of the genre.
It seems to me that Monk seems to left out of these list. Not intentionally I believe, it’s due to the years Monk suffered with his cabaret license and bi polar struggles.
I was surprised how much I agreed with this list. I didn't have a quibble with any of the first seven selections, and only disagreed with the choice of Giant Steps because I would have put Blue Train there, but then it's my favorite jazz album by anybody. Giant Steps may be more representative of Coltrane's development, but Blue Train is just better to listen to, if for nothing else because of Lee Morgan. Coltrane supposedly said that it was his favorite of the albums he did as a leader, and I wonder where he would have ranked Kind of Blue among albums he was on. (I don't really count the Hot Five and Hot Seven collection as an album, because then arguably it would be in there with Blue Train, and maybe even have the edge.) I'm not crazy about Bitches Brew, or about late Miles Davis in general; that's partly because I never cared much for fusion, and I also thought that Davis became increasingly contemptuous of his audience during his latter period. I have seen Kurt Rosenwinkel at the Vanguard a few times and you are right, he's terrific. So nine out of ten - I'm not arguing that Giant Steps isn't a great choice - isn't bad.
Another view of jazz is that it has always been a fusion music. First was fusing African music with European dance and military music. Then came fusing that new music with popular music of the times and classical music. Then came fusing that newer music with Latin, and other ethnic music styles. Then came fusing that resulting music with rock, funk and pop. The appellation "Modern Jazz after 1985" is totally misleading because players ran out of anything new to fuse by the mid 1970s. There have been many new tunes written since the mid 1970s but there have been no more fusions creating new genres of jazz. It was just not possible because all the ground had been covered and the proof had been recorded.
i notice a mistake. The top 10 should be per organ eg SAX/TRUMPET yes COLTRANE PARKER DAVIS et Guitar BENSON MONTGOMERY GREEN REINHARDT etc Drums RICH BLAKEY etc Pianos TATUM EVANS MONK HANCOCK
As an a.person whose only been into jazz for a few years , in my fifties its freakin awesome i have a hundred years or more of albums /performers to explore , all new to me, ill never get caught up but it will be fun
I'm a giant Coltrane fanboy, but Mingus's "Black Saint and The Sinner Lady" is impressive and made a huge impact on me. It's like what Hendrix would do if he played jazz. What a ride.
I loved Mingus. So many great albums. But was he truly influential? Some folks are so unique that they carve a path totally their own. Thoughts, anyone?
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Aargh!! The only 'Best' jazz album is the one you, personally, find yourself playing over & over again. This is art, folks. It's bad enough when people make top ten lists of their favorite sports stars; but at least in that field they can attempt to justify their picks with their scoring & win stats-of-choice. In the arts, all you can do is cite sales numbers, or prices fetched by visual works, etc. 'Best' in the arts is all a left-brain after-the-fact construction (usually proclaimed by non-artists). Explore the rich bounty of all eras of jazz, and decide what _YOU_ like - nothing else matters.
The commentator was just getting the ball bouncing. He spurred comments and opinions like yours. It's fun and informative.
@@normanhall8435 The discussion may be fun, but Bests and Top Ten lists and G.O.A.T.s etc drive me batty. It's like: we've been brain-washed to think we need some kind of rational structure in order to _justify_ our tastes and attractions and sensibilities - _aargh!_ And vice-versa: In this culture, when we really like something, we feel compelled to pronounce it The Best, in some fashion, as if just personally enjoying it is somehow incomplete.
As a young saxophonist, I was told to listen to Cannonball Adderley's "Somethin' Else". Worked for me.
Really important album!
That’s an important album for any kind of musician. Fantastic line up also.
I’m gonna check that out
It's my fav jazz album
Worth to listen to for Davis eaten alive.
Thanks for the list. For fun I came up with my list. I was going for some alternate directions. Hard to argue top 10 style choices for a player vs a listener. Armstrong - Hot 5 and 7
Blanton Webster band- Ellington
Love Supreme - Coltrane
Ahmad’s Blues - Ahmad Jamal
Quintet live at Massey Hall
Koln Concert - Keith Jarrett
Monks Music - Thelonious Monk
Miles - Nefertiti
Jimmy Guiffre 3
Miles- Kind of Blue
I saw Miles Davis in concert in the 1980s. It was around the time of his Tutu album release. His back up band were very funky.
I'm not sure which Nat "King" Cole album I'd recommend, but you should consider him a really important innovator in Jazz piano. He invented the left hand chord comp style.
I'd also give a nod to French Jazz composer Claude Bolling and the album "Suite for Flute and Jazz Piano Trio" solely for the song "Baroque and Blue." It's a delightful mix of Jazz and Classical music that lifts the spirits.
And, while it's not innovative or particularly inspirational comparatively to other better albums, Vince Guaraldi's "The Charlie Brown Christmas" album is extremely important for the simple reason it introduced and popularized Jazz music to a huge segment of the population that had never listened to Jazz before.
Great podcast. Thanks! However, significant misses
Thelonious Monk - Monk’s Music (1957)
Charles Mingus - Ah Um (1959)
Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder (1964)
Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - Getz / Gilberto (1964)
Weather Report - Heavy Weather (1977)
Oscar Peterson - Oscar Peterson Live! (1986)
Yeah, there are just SO MANY damned fine jazz albums. Getz/Gilberto is on my list of 10 "Desert Island" albums. So is Giant Steps and Kind of Blue.
I would nominate 'Louis and Ella' from 1956, they were backed by Oscar Peterson, Ray Brown and Buddy Rich. 'Blue Rose', also from the mid '50, has Billy Strayhorn playing piano for a youthful Rosemary Clooney, joined by the Ellington Orchestra. 'Diggin Up Bones' has John, Martin and Bucky Pizzarelli, Rebecca Kilgore and other jazz musicians joining The West Texas Tumbleweeds for jazz treatments of country tunes. 'Old Sock', with Eric Clapton displaying a charming voice on some jazz standards. 'Happy Feet' with Emilie Claire Barlow doing some Canadian Scat.
As a list of albums by jazz styles and development, it’s good Giant steps is there but if I would put a list of best albums for getting into jazz, Blue train would have the be on it! It’s probably my favorite jazz album, it’s just perfect and Moments notice is a masterpiece!
Blue Train is definitely an important album!
Coltrane’s Ballad album is awesome. Easily digestible as opposed to Giant Steps. Early swing players like Charlie Christian and Lester Young are great places to start
Which album are you reffering RL as his ballad album?
Everybody puts "Kind of Blue"on these lists.I really think the 5 albums, with the quintet that preceded it, get overlooked. I love Red Garland and Philly Joe Jones on those recordings. Best band ever!
The first record by that first quintet was the very first jazz record that I totally soaked up, to the point where I could hum all the solos, etc. Mega group, with young John and the great Paul Chambers as well.
The version of Salt Peanuts on Steamin' is what made me fall in love with bebop
Kind of Blue needs to be everyones list …especially if they are trying to immerse themselves in jazz and don’t have any background in the genre. Like me! It really opened my ears and made other recordings…..more listenable to a kid.
Bag’s Groove would be one of them 🎉
Yea, the Milestones LP is amazing as well. Miles Davis 2nd Quintet was amazing as well.
Also, please check out Pat Metheny's first; Bright Size Life. Amazing record.
Mulligan meets Monk was one my favourites , tremendous Mulligan solos on that album.
I have been watching YT for Jazz videos of this nature. Yours is incredibly informative with great suggestions for jazz listening. My only disappointment was no mention of the greatest jazz guitarist, Wes Montgomery. However, I am now a subscriber and look forward to more of your material.
This list could include many more of Miles Davis’ albums. Sketches of Spain, in a Silent Way, etc etc etc.
Ich habe gerne die 10 besten Alben gesehen, allerdings, wo ist der Chet Baker???
Miles Davis Kind of Blue and Seven Steps to Heaven
Excellent list. I know you were covering genres and applying an album to each. But man, if I were just listing great albums, would be hard to make a list with out Chet Baker's "Chet" (call that best ballads maybe) and Bill Evans' "Live at the Village Vanguard" (best live record). But great list and great explanations.
Miles Davis' Birth of the Cool, Thelonious Monk's Straight No Chaser also worth studying.
Hey man, have been following þhis channel for sometime now... I really like your content, very informative for jazz musicians. Keep it up 🙂
Thank you!
A Love Supreme really should be on any top 10 list of best jazz albums. It's an experience unlike any other.
Love that the guitar in the video functions as a visual prop.
My favourite jazz album goes back to mid fifteen when I was a boy now an old man it still is my favourite and it is Henry Mancini soundtrack for the tv series of that time Peter Gunn.
my personal sphere of interest in Jazz is Art Blakey's Moanin album in fact most Blue Note era, Hard Bop and later Modal, post bop it seems. Thanks for a great lesson!
Excellent video and very informative . Your explanation of the evolutionary timeline of Jazz was most enlightening. Thank you.
I have all of those albums except the Louis Armstrong and Ornette Coleman ones. I never could get into Ornette's thing. Still, not bad! I've been playing jazz for over 40 years, although the bulk of my income comes from playing pop music. Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to make a living playing jazz for most practitioners.
I'm surprised that Basie and Monk aren't included! Also, Pat Metheny is missing: he's the biggest influence on modern jazz guitarists, including Rosenwinkle
Does anyone consider Man from Two Worlds by Chico Hamilton, Gary McFarland and Bill Evans at Town Hall, Art Pepper Meets The Rythym Section for starters?
I nominate, Lee Morgan - 'The Sidewinder" ... amongst others
Great album!
I listened to Wayne Shorter blue note stuff like Speak No Evil. Has Lee Morgan who was a monster
For Bebop, you should've said Bird, The Complete Savoy & Dial Master Takes vs "The Quintet" bro, way mor Jazz Standards on my album brother, & Miles' Birth of the Cool, over Brubeck all day man. For Modern Jazz IT's A Must to include Roy Hargrove, Russell Gunn & good job mentioning Glasper bro.
No cannonball? What about Ella in Berlin? Herbie Hancock?
i think at the cafe bohemia by the messengers is a better example of pure hard bop greatness. it features the earliest messengers lineup(hank mobley, kenny dorham, horace silver, doug watkins).
Dear Bill Murphy. I couldn't agree more. Clifford was a marvel and far outshone Miles as a player. His death at age 26 was a tragedy for all music not just jazz. He played trumpet with the brio and verve that no one had since Louis. He was great also in a band supporting andenergizing singers like Sarah Vaughan and Helen Merrill. Great CB Albums include in Paris, with Max Roach and, my favourite, A Night At Birdland with Art Blakey. CB was a talented composer too. Had he lived, we might have seen a resurgence of popularity of jazz and avoided much of the fusion misdirectionand downright trash.
For sure - his takes on The song is you from Paris are unique. What is even more impressive is that when you study him you see that some of his lines are very simple scale runs which everyone practices but can't include so easily and effortlessly in his playing. His music just flows in a way that it very unique - it can be liked even by people that don't like jazz.
This whole evolution not only fusion but the modern playing - playing outside, melodic cells, pentatonic patterns I just can't get and I try every couple of years. I appreciate their technique but it just does not have that melodic element to it for me. Older jazz was primarily music. Now it is turned to be primarily jazz and not so much just an evolution of pop songs where it all started.
@@billmurphy3510I agree, Bill. What I love perhaps the most (?) about jazz is the amazing variety of sounds that a jazz instrument can produce. Classical devotees never seem to mention this. I love Gervase de Peyer playing Mozart's clarinet music, but then I can sit back, enjoy (and laugh!) at the wonderful sounds produced by Pee Wee Russell! Artie Shaw and Benny Goodman don't sound the same. Hawkins, Webster, Rollins, Getz, all so different in sound. Nobody sounds like Bix. And only Louis had that youthful golden tone that CB had. When people talk about the Bell on a trumpet I immediately think of Clifford, certainly not of Miles. Miles was clever to exploit so successfully the Harmon mute and I love albums like 'Workin' and 'Steamin'. I love his early work and his Carnegie Hall concert. Technique, of course, is no substitute for musicality and 'soul'. Love Art Tatum and I guess you'll love Otis Spann. I'm a great believer that great songs have shaped much of what is wonderful in all music for more than 100 years. Classical music has under appreciated this and suffered accordingly. So has 'fusion' or whatever people want to call it. Jazz singers today are rarely jazz singers. I almost never hear a good one. They all claim to have learned from Sarah and Billie and Ella - very few have, I think. I heard Samara Joy for the first time recently. A good jazz voice, inflection, swing, musicality, good feeling for lyrics BUT her backing group sounded like something from the 1940s! Have these jazz producers never listened to Oscar Peterson, Jimmy Rowles, Joe Pass, Herb Ellis etc. etc. ?
Helen Merrill, what a great singer and she has been forgotten. I have many of her records and love her style.
Saying he outshone Miles is an opinion dude.. Maybe technically but that's about it. Then again your little comment about fusion shows just where you're coming from...
@@lamneth1 Good manners cost nothing. That is not an opinion; it is a truism. It is also a lesson that I hope we all learn.
This is wonderful. outlook on Jazz Music, I'm impressed with the way you give the student the history, of the different areas of Jazz Music. suggestion would teach more about Horace Silver when you talk about Hard Bop Art Blakey and Horace Silver invented, Hard Bop alone with Benny Golson.
Mexican Green by the Tubby Hayes Quartet 1967. My favourite jazz record.
your list makes sense and you present it very well. Of course, I disagree, but that is natural. My list is not in chronological order but here you are:
Davis, Miles Kind of blue
Ellington, Duke Complete Columbia and RCA Victor sessions with Ben Webster
Coltrane, John The complete 1961 Village Vanguard tapes
Parker, Charlie Complete Dial masters
Mingus, Charles Ah um
Evans, Bill The complete Village Vanguard recordings
Monk, Thelonious Genius of modern music volume 2
Dolphy, Eric Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot volume 1
Taylor, Cecil Jumpin' punkins
Coleman, Ornette Beauty is a rare thing - the complete Atlantic recordings
Thank you for sharing your choices. I appreciate it!
Great list! I guess history will show if #10 should be on the list.
True!
Jazz Samba, Stan Getz
So many great Stan Getz records!
I do think Latin Jazz was a notable omission from the list. Pick Getz/Gilberto for its popular appeal and vocal contributions as well.
Deep Song is an incredible album!
Duke Ellington's 'New Orleans suite' is an often overlooked gem btw..
Thelonious Monk was playing bebop before Charlie 'invented' it.
Nice selection! I like the idea of selecting according jazz eras or styles. Would you let me comment your video in my channel? It is about jazz records precisely.
Thank you for this share
No worries
Really enjoy the Inner Circle. Very in formative video Brent. Thanks. I will seek out those I don't have.
Thanks, Mark!
You forgot Soul Station by Hank Mobley!!
Them dirty blues was for me
The most modern person you discussed is Rosenwinkel, who is 52 years old. What about Thundercat or DOMi & JD Beck? Young people learning jazz need to understand that it’s not just the music of their grandparents.
Hey John so many great modern jazz musicians to mention - Rosenwinkel is just one who’s made a definitive influence on jazz in the last few decades
my favorite duke elington record is one with charles mingus - money jungle
Keith Jarrett: Belonging
If I remember correctly Wynton Marsalis said that Jazz had reached its pinnacle. Do you agree? Wynton Marsalis is not mentioned here why? Looks like he is not that influential. BTW I seldom listen to his playing and am not really familiar with many of the songs he composed. Past masters are the best and almost all of them are blacks.
BTW this video gives some useful info, thanks.
Jazz Samba 1962 Stan Getz and Charlie Bird
Charlie Mingus AH UM also 1959 !!!
"virtuostic'"? 😁 He's about a decade off on his dates. Jazz was first recorded in 1917 (ODJB), not the 1900s. Swing started in the '30s, maybe the seeds around '27 or '28 but the '40s is swing's heyday. Same with bebop, definitely the roots and first outings in the late '40s, but the '50s are the bop era. And he follows the popular conception that Miles is the most important jazz musician, but jazz heads will say Satchmo, Duke and probably Bird moreso, all who were more virtuosic and better composers than Miles. And what about Monk who is one of the great giants of jazz. Just some alternative perspectives, but I do like his choice of albums.
No mention of Mingus, Roach & Powell when discussing Jazz At Massey Hall?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Money jungle de duke ellington ,headhunters de herbie hancock
Thank you so much for this video 🍻🍻
No Bill Evans, absolutely insane… Kind of Blue probably wouldn’t have been produced without Bill Evans
Where's Monk? How many of the musicians, from bop on, were not influenced by Monk?
Why didn't you cut off mentioning Pat Metheny's name?
10 records are not enough. Monk and Mingus are missing. I would have choosen Miles's and Gil Evans 'birth of the cool' instead of Brubeck. Weather Report would have been a good choice for electric/fusion. And Wayne Shorter's quartet is missing (b Blade, j Patitucci, d Perez). And Jim Hall, Keith Jarrett, Pat Metheny. And Carla Bley and Charlie Haden's Liberation Music Orchestra. And Bill Evans trio with Scott LaFaro and Paul Motian recorded live at village vanguard June 25th 1961. John Coltrane's 'love supreme' is also a record to keep in the list. No singer in your list. Don't forget Ella Fitzgerald , Billie Holiday and Mahalia Jackson.
Ellington’s Afro-Asian Eclipse was the end of traditional jazz, for me.
Great video. Very informative.
My favorito jazz musician didnt make the list: Charles Mingus
Search for the new land is way out in no1
What! No MJQ!!!
To much words ;(
I would have like to hear some samples. I think this approach was better:
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To be clear, Miles Davis never played Free.
Not according to Barry Harris
Lewis Armstrong 😂😂😂😂 It's pronounced Loo-wee, Dude
Sorry... not so.
Brubeck’s Time Out & Coltrane’s Giant Steps for sure belongs on this list! Coltrane’s A Love Supreme deserves mention!
Coltrane Plays The Blues also deserves mention.
@@billdang3953 thank you, I’m gonna listen to it!
@@billdang3953 thank you for the recommendation. I’m listening to it now.
A Love Supreme is, in my humble opinion, not only one of the greatest JAZZ albums of all time, but one of the greatest MUSIC experiences of all time, on my personal list with Bach's Brandenburg concerti, Beethoven's 9th symphony, Led Zeppelin's 4th album ("symbols") and a few others that would be in my 'desert island' music collection.
I would definitely mention Keith Jarrett. His solo improvisations are unique and some of the longer pieces are unbelievable in their improvisation. The Köln concert is a must. If you want to stretch a little to the other side of the pond I could imagine having Esbjorn Svensson Trio in there.
There are many great albums that weren’t mentioned - but the album he mentions have been more influential. He is mainly referring to influence.
Return to forever, Weather report, John McLaughlin.
Great ones John!
Mclaughlin "My Goals Beyond " side 2 incredible jazz guitar
And Lifetime!!! "Play the tape John, play the tape"
Nice video! I guess for someone like me who grew up listening to rock (and pop in the 70s), albums like "Heavy Weather", "Spectrum", "Inner Mounting Flame" and "Headhunters" were examples of ones that opened my ears and probably more important made me curious enough to start to look at the connection people like Herbie Hancock or Wayne Shorter or Joe Zawinul had to the music that preceded (and influenced) them.
I think those all would be descendants of Bitches Brew IMO. I am a bigger fan of those you mentioned but they all start with Bitches Brew, or In A Silent Way which he didn’t mention, but I think having those AND Bitches Brew would be redundant.
I agree with most of these selections. I think for early jazz, you need to listen to Sidney Bechet to get a broader perspective. The next era, Count Basie was a major contributor. And the Bebop era was Thelonious Monk. Monk along with Charlie Rouse brought it to another level. For the modern era, Wynton and Branford Marsalis kept things going. Black Codes From The Underground is a staple.When it goes to other side of more popular Jazz, David Sanborn was the king of modern Sax. I recently saw him with Bob James playing the songs from the album Double Vision. That is the one modern jazz album everyone should listen to.
I will say that the Ornette Coleman is **hard work** so newbs be aware. The most 'fun' jazz album for me is Charles Mingus 'Mingus Ah Um'. It's got 'Good Bye Pork Pie Hat on it and is in the US National Recording Registry along with others from this list.
I love that album too!
Great one. Mingus has so many terrific albums
Solo Monk by Thelonius Monk. Free For All by Art Blakey. Karma by Pharoah Sanders.
"10 Best" can presented in different contexts. I like very much that you presented your "best" list in an historical context. Please, more presentations with an historical approach.
Thank you for the feedback!
So you would consider Kurt more influential than Pat Methany? Interesting
Good list but see some serious error not including: Art Tatum, Thelonius Monk, and Oscar Peterson.
Crucial albums missing:
Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream
Charles Mingus - Ah Um
Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady
Cecil Taylor - Jazz Advance
Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Lee Morgan - Search for the New Land
Kind of Blue, Giant Steps, Time Out. And as a dark horse, The Nightfly. The real cool Jazz starter collection.
How is Giant Steps related to Cool Jazz ?
I think that Clifford Brown is more influential than Lee Morgan in modern jazz trumpet. My personal favourite among his albums is "C. Brown and M.Roach at Basin Street ", (with Sonny Rollins on tenor), but if you wanted to include a Messenger´s recording, a good choice is "A night at Birdland" with Blakey and Brown.
Lee Morgan is my favorite jazz musician but I would agree with this. I think if Clifford Brown didn’t pass away young, he would have surpassed Lee Morgan and definitely would’ve competed Miles for the top spot.
I prefer Headhunters or Manchild from Herbie hancock over bitches brew for Fusion but hard to pick just one.
I’ll go ahead and rattle off some jazz albums that have helped me be a better drummer:
Sonny Stitt- Blows The Blues
John Coltrane- Crescent
John Coltrane- Black Pearls
Joe Henderson- In Japan
Joe Henderson- Power To The People
Freddie Hubbard- Red Clay
Ornette Coleman- The Empty Foxhole
Sonny Rollins- Saxophone Colossus
Sonny Rollins- Tenor Madness
Lee Morgan- Cornbread
Paul Gonsalves and Bobby Hackett both studied guitar with my grandfather Joe Petteruti in Providence, RI during the 1930s at our family music store Twin City Music.
Wow that’s amazing Tom! Thanks for sharing that.
Understandable that there are only 10 spots and you can't include everything but Clifford Brown deserves a mention at least in some way. Don't know if he has a complete album that has that much influence as those here but his playing definitely is up there in terms of quality and influence.
One thing I find so intriguing is that 'Trane influenced as many, if not more, guitarists, particularly rock/pop guitarists, than sax players. The Byrds' Roger McGuinn has mentioned that the intro solo and solo in Eight Miles High was inspired by Coltrane.
True!
For a jazz guitar player, I would include Django Rheinhardt and Wes Montgomery, and if you venture from jazz into bossanova I would add Baden Powell. For a piano player, I would include Oscar Peterson and Thelonious Monk. Singers almost need to listen Ella Fitzgerald and dare I say Sinatra?
The record that finally got me into jazz was "My favorite things" by Coltrane. The mellow accessibility of it broke my resistance against the intrinsic aggressiveness and intellectuality of the genre.
As far as singers go I would have to include the incomparable Billie Holiday and many more. Nina Simone? Etta James??
@@deveryshepardson3640 Mark Murphy, Kurt Elling.
Django ? Naaaah."Minor swing", they said...
Even sadder. Clifford killed in a road accident at age 25. Want to know how fellow trumpeters regard CB? Listen to Roy Hargrove's marvellous and emotional live tribute on Benny Golson's 'I Remember Clifford'. We should all remember!
To cover all comments….the best 100 jazz albums !!
Stan Getz? Brazilian Jazz?
It seems to me that Monk seems to left out of these list. Not intentionally I believe, it’s due to the years Monk suffered with his cabaret license and bi polar struggles.
That's not serious. When I wanted to choose my best 10 albums, I ended up having 1250 of them. No kidding.
What about the great Wes Montgomery. What a musician!
Definitely an important jazz figure Dean!
Yes! Smokin' At The Halfnote!
No discussion about jazz or record collection is complete without Monk.
I was surprised how much I agreed with this list. I didn't have a quibble with any of the first seven selections, and only disagreed with the choice of Giant Steps because I would have put Blue Train there, but then it's my favorite jazz album by anybody. Giant Steps may be more representative of Coltrane's development, but Blue Train is just better to listen to, if for nothing else because of Lee Morgan. Coltrane supposedly said that it was his favorite of the albums he did as a leader, and I wonder where he would have ranked Kind of Blue among albums he was on. (I don't really count the Hot Five and Hot Seven collection as an album, because then arguably it would be in there with Blue Train, and maybe even have the edge.) I'm not crazy about Bitches Brew, or about late Miles Davis in general; that's partly because I never cared much for fusion, and I also thought that Davis became increasingly contemptuous of his audience during his latter period. I have seen Kurt Rosenwinkel at the Vanguard a few times and you are right, he's terrific. So nine out of ten - I'm not arguing that Giant Steps isn't a great choice - isn't bad.
Another view of jazz is that it has always been a fusion music. First was fusing African music with European dance and military music. Then came fusing that new music with popular music of the times and classical music. Then came fusing that newer music with Latin, and other ethnic music styles. Then came fusing that resulting music with rock, funk and pop. The appellation "Modern Jazz after 1985" is totally misleading because players ran out of anything new to fuse by the mid 1970s. There have been many new tunes written since the mid 1970s but there have been no more fusions creating new genres of jazz. It was just not possible because all the ground had been covered and the proof had been recorded.
i notice a mistake. The top 10 should be per organ eg SAX/TRUMPET yes COLTRANE PARKER DAVIS et
Guitar BENSON MONTGOMERY GREEN REINHARDT etc
Drums RICH BLAKEY etc
Pianos TATUM EVANS MONK HANCOCK
As an a.person whose only been into jazz for a few years , in my fifties its freakin awesome i have a hundred years or more of albums /performers to explore , all new to me, ill never get caught up but it will be fun