Personally I think a flying 20 meter time is far more relevant to potential long jump distance than the 100 meter time. Reaction time to the gun, acceleration and speed endurance have no bearing on take-off speed for a long jumper, but they all play a part in your 100-meter time.
You are correct - but the research factored that in, if I have understood it correctly. It's about channeling that maximum generated speed over 100m (or a percentage of it) into jump distance potential. If you work backwards from 20m time to make a 100m time I have found with those I coach that the calculations still hold true. Remember too that this research is over 40 years old. It's one of the few pieces that I have found that is pretty accurate IMO. Many thanks for passing by and commenting.
There is a transcription error in the original data from the bottom of column three to the top of column four as there is a step of 10cm where everything else steps 6cm.
Great video Coach and very eye-opening. Makes me realise that back in the day I was a terrible long jumper, only being able to convert my 10.8 speed into barely scraping beyond 7m (despite being able to dunk a basketball relatively easily). It makes you think that there must be many 'average' sprinters out there (10.5ish in the case of men), who could become World-class long jumpers if they considered switching.
Your point about the average sprinter being a world class long jumper is highly valid… in the U.K. we have tried to encourage some sprinters to try long jump but there seems to be a reticence. It’s odd when you could be a much better jumper than sprinter. And yes, your speed should have taken you close to 8m. Thanks for passing by
Hi John. Interesting. Presumably sprinters maybe consider long jump to be less ‘sexy’, and also there’s relay medals to be had if they stay in the sprints (especially now with the potential introduction of a mixed 4x1 event, which I think is nuts). Presumably there isn’t an equivalent study for the triple? That would also be eye-opening I’m sure, especially with our dearth of truly World-class triple jumpers (although we were spoiled for years with Jonathan Edwards followed by Philips Idowu, not to mention Ashia Hansen).
Well, I would have to say it - the long jump world record. It's stood for longer than the TJ one has and at the moment no one has really come close. Furlani may be can challenge it - he's young and the foul he did in the Glasgow World Indoors was one of the longest jumps I have seen for a while. Thanks for the question. (We could talk about the women's 800m 200m and 100m records ... but they are from a different era...)
Many thanks - these Coach-Athlete videos are much more detailed and sometimes I think they would not be so appreciated on the main channel where so many these days seem to want less considered information and research-based analysis. And they do of course take me quite a lot of time to do!
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach Too bad. Your channel is one of the best on youtube. Maybe try plugging your books on the channel? If all subscribers also buy your books…
Personally I think a flying 20 meter time is far more relevant to potential long jump distance than the 100 meter time. Reaction time to the gun, acceleration and speed endurance have no bearing on take-off speed for a long jumper, but they all play a part in your 100-meter time.
You are correct - but the research factored that in, if I have understood it correctly. It's about channeling that maximum generated speed over 100m (or a percentage of it) into jump distance potential. If you work backwards from 20m time to make a 100m time I have found with those I coach that the calculations still hold true. Remember too that this research is over 40 years old. It's one of the few pieces that I have found that is pretty accurate IMO. Many thanks for passing by and commenting.
There is a transcription error in the original data from the bottom of column three to the top of column four as there is a step of 10cm where everything else steps 6cm.
Paul, thanks for the spot. Hope all is well,
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach Hi John, still struggling with intermittent injuries but I have finally passed the coach (jumps) award.
Great video Coach and very eye-opening. Makes me realise that back in the day I was a terrible long jumper, only being able to convert my 10.8 speed into barely scraping beyond 7m (despite being able to dunk a basketball relatively easily). It makes you think that there must be many 'average' sprinters out there (10.5ish in the case of men), who could become World-class long jumpers if they considered switching.
Your point about the average sprinter being a world class long jumper is highly valid… in the U.K. we have tried to encourage some sprinters to try long jump but there seems to be a reticence. It’s odd when you could be a much better jumper than sprinter. And yes, your speed should have taken you close to 8m. Thanks for passing by
Hi John. Interesting. Presumably sprinters maybe consider long jump to be less ‘sexy’, and also there’s relay medals to be had if they stay in the sprints (especially now with the potential introduction of a mixed 4x1 event, which I think is nuts). Presumably there isn’t an equivalent study for the triple? That would also be eye-opening I’m sure, especially with our dearth of truly World-class triple jumpers (although we were spoiled for years with Jonathan Edwards followed by Philips Idowu, not to mention Ashia Hansen).
12.23s 100m
6.51m LJ
my Age 26, wight 56 kg. my long jump runway race is very fast, i only jump 15 feet. my goal only 17 feet. please suggest a good idea
What WR would you say in track and field is harder to break than Edward’s triple jump ?
Well, I would have to say it - the long jump world record. It's stood for longer than the TJ one has and at the moment no one has really come close. Furlani may be can challenge it - he's young and the foul he did in the Glasgow World Indoors was one of the longest jumps I have seen for a while. Thanks for the question. (We could talk about the women's 800m 200m and 100m records ... but they are from a different era...)
The men's 100m, by a very long way.
Men's 100m is being challenged this year
@@duncanharvey2209 I’d bet on an Asian breaking 9.5 until 2035. All they need is someone who is 6’ or taller and has acceleration like Su.
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach 8.95 is ridiculous lmao
Yes those two are gonna stand forever.
This is really good information thanks
Many thanks - these Coach-Athlete videos are much more detailed and sometimes I think they would not be so appreciated on the main channel where so many these days seem to want less considered information and research-based analysis. And they do of course take me quite a lot of time to do!
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach the information you give in all your videos are really good, I do enjoy watching them
Many thanks - please spread the word!
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Many thanks - glad the video has helped you.
I see Prime drinks in the background...... Product placement ads?
I was sent some … I was hoping then they might help the channel more - but nothing came of it.
@@Johnshepherdtrackcoach Too bad. Your channel is one of the best on youtube. Maybe try plugging your books on the channel? If all subscribers also buy your books…