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  • @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362
    @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    Jaejoong and Junsu were (and still) the most popular members of TVXQ. Domestically Junsu was the most popular member, while Jaejoong was the most popular member globally, in Japan people used to know and recognize Jaejoong even more than his own group TVXQ. the 2 of them contributed so much to the success TVXQ enjoyed, not only on terms of popularity and the huge fandom each of them brought to the group but also talent wise. 80% of the songs lines were sung by JaeSu. Them going against the giant company in the entertainment industry and save idols from slaves contracts, didn't even stop their success. their never-promoted solos were huge success, while blacklisted from music shows, they enjoyed ambassadorships of many brands, cuz blacklisting never stopped their popularity thanks to their talend and hardwork. I remember how JYJ were always the fastest act to sell out Tokyo domes in Kpop history, were also the only 2nd generation act to perform each comeback in the prestigious Seoul Gasmil outdour Stadium, all of that while being totally bullied by the whole industry managers...it's always amazing to look back at how powerful they were not only in TVXQ days but also JYJ days and their solo work. Truly once in a lifetime

    • @Kntgtenuf3
      @Kntgtenuf3 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree! 💯% JaeSu❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

    • @rowenalamoreno2754
      @rowenalamoreno2754 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Wow😮 I came to this due to new drama of Jaejoong. He is such a great actor. Thank you for the info.
      All the scandals that happened to JYJ expecially might be created by the big company to get back to them.

    • @rheosmin1064
      @rheosmin1064 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      JJ just performed on Inkigayo for the first time in 16 years. So much time has passed. I’ve waited 16 long years for his return, but it strangely felt like no time has passed at all. ❤

    • @AndrèDeMedici
      @AndrèDeMedici 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is actually true. I happen to have a new Japanese co-worker and I live in the Philippines. When I asked her if she knows Jaejoong, she said of course and that Jaejoong is very popular in Japan.

    • @muhammaddanielharithazlee4807
      @muhammaddanielharithazlee4807 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Technically, all JYJ members are the backbone of TVXQ back then (no hate towards the current members) more popular than the current TVXQ lineup and i think Yoochun is the most popular member, domestically, because he was once known for his visual shock and his well-mannered

  • @HailToTheMeep
    @HailToTheMeep หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    They legacy is their fight AGAINST SM AND THE SLAVE CONTRACT tolerance in South Korea. That has not been forgotten.

  • @chunheepy
    @chunheepy หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    eventhough i have stanned them since 2006, I never understood the extend of their legal battles because I was a kid then, I thought there was only 1 lawsuit, I know SM has been blacklisting them but I did not know they literally spent the company's revenue, put in SO MUCH EFFORT just to destroy JYJ. honestly JAESU endured so much, I wish for nothing but good things to happen to them

    • @JaejoongTeam
      @JaejoongTeam หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      No there’s more than one lawsuits. In Korea & in Japan. Also even when JYJ won, $M appealed again and again to drag JYJ activities. Therefore even the court ruled JYJ won and $M had to pay them the loss + not interfering their activities. The appeal actions never ending. Ultimately JYJ settled with them no payment needed and went separate ways. Only the court rules no interference + the JYJ law passed but still the trio was blacklisted no way to appear on tv for about 15 years.

  • @alicopacu
    @alicopacu หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    Probably the most talented group kpop will ever see! TVXQ as 5 was too strong! My heart still breaks 15 years later thinking how great they were and could've been 😢

  • @sakurakou2009
    @sakurakou2009 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Jaejoong was great visual literally the blue print of kpop visuals, also unique vocals ❤

  • @bastetowl3258
    @bastetowl3258 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    it’s crazy that SM took time out of their schedule (lol) to sabotage JYJ instead of giving the duo a comeback. they really saw them as a threat. jaesu were probably some of the most popular members at the time, and they’re naturally very talented. i think the 3 did want to stay as tvxq and still cared for/liked homin but during the lawsuit homin’s parents started attacking their character due to the cosmetics business and other issues, so i’m sure that drove a wedge between them. jyj still speak fondly of the duo though and wish them all the best. i haven’t heard homin reference jaesu directly though. a lot of SM artists called jyj traitors, so maybe homin thought of them that way as well. i also think they shouldn’t have kept the tvxq name after jyj left since ot5 is such a core part of their foundation and identity but i know SM wants to keep that brand recognition, so they would never change homin’s duo name. nowadays SM just seems to rely on the duo’s already established fanbase rather than trying to gain new fans for them. with jaejoong and junsu they’re getting more chances to appear on tv but i still want to see them on shows like immortal songs, masked singer, and music shows. just them interacting with juniors and their contemporaries on different shows. not being able to appear on tv (besides dramas) definitely stifled their momentum all these years. luckily jaejoong has jaefriends now, and junsu still has musicals. i think if tvxq stayed as ot5 they would’ve gained even more fans right after mirotic and maybe even tried to do a western expansion but SM had to be greedy and unreasonable when it came to contract negotiations, so they ruined a good thing they had going for them

  • @7ARMY7PURPLE
    @7ARMY7PURPLE หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    They are survivors, and their legacy lives on in what they helped establish for future K-pop groups. Thank you. These reports help bring them to the forefront again, and younger generations of fans are finding them and enjoying their music. Jaejoong and Junsu epitomize what a true IDOL should be. We may not be able to enjoy TVXQ as a whole anymore, but we can enjoy their past hits and cheer on their solo careers. ❤

  • @heroandflor
    @heroandflor หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    TVXQ5 was the best there ever was. It's insane to see them erased like this. 😢

  • @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362
    @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Actually the contract wasn't 13 years extended but 15 years. SM added a clause to the extended 13 years contract that it doesn't include 2 years of military service which makes it 15 years long (if all the members enlisted at the same time becuz obviously if they don't it will be even longer). Jaejoong talked about this point in one of his interviews.

  • @mllewhimsy1161
    @mllewhimsy1161 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    JYJ really ran so idols right now can have more humane contracts

  • @bangpdswife2443
    @bangpdswife2443 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I'm a very new fan of Jaejoong and Junsu (started with Jaefriends) and this has been very helpful in getting to know them a lot more. Thank u so much! Doing my best to make up for being 20 yrs late. 😅

    • @MicoWanderer
      @MicoWanderer หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hello fellow new fan - from Jaefriends also 😅

    • @hodsicknana
      @hodsicknana หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      SAME!

    • @clarimm6675
      @clarimm6675 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Same! I saw Junsu live in the Dracula musical and fell in love haha

    • @bangpdswife2443
      @bangpdswife2443 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@clarimm6675 Ohh wow I would love to see him in a musical someday. Hope I can catch the next one! :))

    • @bangpdswife2443
      @bangpdswife2443 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@MicoWanderer Yay I'm glad I'm not the only one and that they have many new fans! I'm really enjoying getting to know them... :)

  • @mjeol
    @mjeol 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm so proud of those 3 young men who put their entire careers on the line to speak out against the industry. They literally lost more than a decade of active time fighting against that awful system.
    However, I still have no idea about the full extent of the Yoochun situation. I do know that it was way more complicated than this vid makes it seem. One SA allegation was recanted, another allegation was impossible bc he was out of the country, etc. Another allegedly admitted to making an allegation so she could meet him. It was a mess but he was cleared. He was also never convicted of a crime. His scandal happened around the same time as scandals around the infamous Dairy Queen (they were allegedly dating) and Samsung's scandals (they're notorious for hyping idol scandals in the news to cover their scandals). I don't think we'll ever know what fully happened unless he decides to speak.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      to be honest i don’t know much about his situation either bc i don’t even like to know about this kind of stuff. and i just mentioned it quickly bc it’s not related to the topic of the video,i also couldn’t just ignore as it plays a part on jyj’s career

  • @fishj3lly
    @fishj3lly หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Another awesome video! I haven't heard of TVXQ until now. Its insane how SM tried to replicate Jaejoong multiple times after everything that went down. It makes them just look silly (derogatory) 😭.

    • @starsparklemonkey3390
      @starsparklemonkey3390 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's as dumb as thinking pledis is trying to recreate Junsu with Seungkwan.

  • @janewhite5
    @janewhite5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Thank you. This is really well made. The information is accurate. I am a Jaejoong fan since 2007 and it was very hard all what happened. Thanks to JYJ the law changed and now idols have better contract conditions. It's sad many ppl don't know about them.

  • @ladiascc1934
    @ladiascc1934 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I loved JYJ they were amazing … it’s a good thing to know that Yoochun is still active.

  • @nekooishi2470
    @nekooishi2470 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Already watched the previously posted seperate parts :)
    Please keep making them 🌸
    YT does need more TVXQ ❤

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      thanks a lot 🤍 i'll try to bring them up more times

  • @LeeMinHo98fan
    @LeeMinHo98fan หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Thanks for this. Jaejoong was my bias back when the term bias was not even widely used in kpop yet. Then that happens, and all of a sudden, they are lost from the radar. Only recenly they reappear again. This might just be a simple video, but at least for someone who want to know, this can be a beacon to find them. I hope current idols can have better future than them

  • @Gyu_and_Agata
    @Gyu_and_Agata 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you for talking about this and shedding light to new kpop fans, We (fans) have been screaming into a void, but nobody seems to hear us. We need more videos like this.

  • @sikisiki0416
    @sikisiki0416 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I've stanned them since 2007 so I've stuck through basically every lawsuit & issue you mentioned here. Being reminded of how horrible it was 10 years ago, I can't help but be even more grateful for their resilience and their strength to pull through all the odds. It's almost unreal that they can finally talk more freely about the past. It feels almost like therapy for me as a fan 😅 Yet as you've mentioned, they still can't promote on the music shows so we still have some way to go :// So thank you for this amazing coverage & I really hope we gain more fans & interest from this great video! ❤

  • @JjoOngie76
    @JjoOngie76 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Most beautiful talented Jaejoong & Junsu,both with their own companies, thriving despite all the hardships & celebrating their 20th debut anniversary 🎉🎉🎉

  • @barbarabee5734
    @barbarabee5734 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I was a TVXQ fan beginning in 2006. Junsu was and still is my bias among ot5 and when the three became JYJ, I followed and continue to support Junsu and Jaejoong to this day, as for Yuchun, the whole scandal really ended my support for him, but I check up on him occasionally through his brother Yuhwan. Thank you for an excellent video.❤❤

  • @ifoundparis
    @ifoundparis หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you for your hard work. thank you for lifting Jaejoong and Junsu's names up, and for telling the public the extent of their sacrifices in making this industry better for future idols. Thank you so much. Thank you for supporting and respecting their hard work.

  • @leannekpopped6246
    @leannekpopped6246 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What a great and fair telling of this historic tale.
    I found K-pop after all this had happened and was never sure what went down, now I have a much better understanding!
    I must admit I love all music by these 5 men, but J-Jun is my favourite! He came to Melbourne, Australia a few months ago and put on an amazing show for us to enjoy. Thanks Jae Joong. XXAussiebabynoona!!

  • @higherground0711
    @higherground0711 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Thank you so much, i hope this video will spread and fall in front of many people 🙏

  • @AshMJ0788
    @AshMJ0788 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    thank you very much for your effort finally the full story without any manipulation i applaud you 👏🏼 i'm so proud of both of them what they achieved today is way impressive than some celebrities who weren't banned locally & globally while those 2 and jj specifically was on top 3 richest idol while being banned! they both worked harder than many others & never gave up and they deserve all the success they have and thank you for educating the younger generations who "some" can be rude to both while they're their idols' idols 😊

  • @jellybat-cd2jp
    @jellybat-cd2jp หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    as a kpop fan from only 2017 onward, it's so hard to imagine yoochun being more popular than junsu and jaejoong. i had no idea that was even the case. also the ai voice sounds so realistic now it caught me off guard

    • @oracourse
      @oracourse หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      i think the saying goes, junsu was the most popular within the fandom & yc had the most non-kpop fans, esp after his dramas took off, while jaejoong had the most int'l fans. if yc was more popular than junsu & jaejoong, it was for a brief period, i don't know why the editor decided to include it in this video when it's not really representative of their popularity.

    • @shenzy4995
      @shenzy4995 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@oracourse yes , based on their fancafe back in the days, Junsu was number 1, 2nd is Jae/Yoochun i am forgot , then Yunho, Changmin at 5 place .

    • @procyon1
      @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yoochun was really popular in the early days of TVXQ. He was the most popular member in Korea until Junsu surpass him in Rising Sun era. But i think, even after Junsu's fandom surprassed his fandom, he was still the most popular one within non-cassies.

    • @procyon1
      @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@@shenzy4995 Based on their fancafe numbers Junsu was 1st, Yoochun 2nd, Jaejoong 3rd, Yunho 4th and Changmin was 5th. Junsu and Yoochun's fancafe numbers were around 300k, Jaejoong and Yunho's fanface numbers were around 250k and Changmin's fancafe was around 200k.

    • @oracourse
      @oracourse หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@procyon1 That's probably true especially with the nunas

  • @0126baby
    @0126baby หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you. This is a good video for new fans or even Kpop fans who are curious about what happened during that period and why JaeSu is still blacklisted. JaeSu is still making great music, and surprisingly, they are still attracting new fans even though they're not promoting their music. JaeSu truly legends

  • @moniwols
    @moniwols หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much for such an informative piece. Mind boggles at what the members of JYJ have endured. As a huge Junsu fan (albeit I’m still a relatively new fan) I knew some of the history but not to the extent that you have portrayed. My heart broke a few times watching their story BUT it was so satisfying to see at the end of your story just how the boys have managed to rise above it. I’m so grateful to the supportive fans (not the crazy obsessive fans who crossed the line) who supported the members properly in their group and solo activities. Yes, SM did a lot of damage but it’s up to us to make sure the JYJ legacy is not forgotten.

  • @karenv525
    @karenv525 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for making this video to talk yet again about the unfair treatment and bullying they've had to put up with in their careers. They truly are survivors. I'm so glad that they have been able to achieve what they have in their careers despite all this nastiness & unfair treatment. They are Kings of Kpop and legends and always will be.

  • @ItHiBy
    @ItHiBy หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    My idols! I will be a fan until all my hair turns gray and all my goals have been accomplished ❤
    They provided me the roots of all my resilience.

  • @mr.misty-eyed
    @mr.misty-eyed หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    this is such a brilliant video!! it`s so rare to find kpop content that is so detailed and interesting as everybody seems to focus more on hype themes and avoid everything that needs a "deep dive". i really hope that it will gain more attention 😟
    also i cannot find the two parts that were before this one, did it get blocked?

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      thank you so much!!i had to delete the two separate parts because youtube took away my monetization and i believe it can be because they think i'm content-farming or something

  • @notgoodatmakingnames
    @notgoodatmakingnames หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for making this! I'm so proud of them for pushing through and becoming so successful doing what they love. With how successful they are, can you even imagine where they would be if they weren't blacklisted? They are truly the embodiment of perseverance. So proud to be their fan for 18+ years. ❤

  • @irregularbound
    @irregularbound หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The research is impressive.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you!!

  • @anasofiame68
    @anasofiame68 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I didn't know nothing about XIA and now I'm curious. 😊

  • @dixnaaa
    @dixnaaa หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    SM soooooo greedy. Hope the contracts are better

  • @procyon1
    @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you so much for this video. You made your research very well as if it's like a documentary. It's very rare to find a detailed video about JYJ's situation on the international side of kpop.

  • @predatorontheprey6275
    @predatorontheprey6275 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    SM Entertainment always at the crime scene

  • @pranayaughade9406
    @pranayaughade9406 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The Jaejoong saseang also kissed him while he was sleeping
    It’s so fcuking disgusting

  • @pandamiii
    @pandamiii หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for making this video. They’ve been through so much and still seem to be boycotted to this day. But I’m glad to see JaeSu are happy and well despite that. Truth Wins. Justice Prevails.

  • @angelas888
    @angelas888 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you so much for this video❤I didn't know the whole story of TVXQ. This video help me understand their story more😊

  • @LillyNanda
    @LillyNanda หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every minute of this makes my heart bleed as I remember everything. They're def the strongest and greatest men ever! While bleeding, my heart also fills with love and joy for being their fan since the very beginning and to the very end. They make me proud every single day!

  • @1224thetami
    @1224thetami หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm watching it again (:
    Edit:
    There is also an NCT member who is said to resemble Junsu, and there are also some idols who resemble H.O.T. Kangta and Jang Woohyuk. Sm has been doing it for years, it's just that since Jaejoongs visuals are more recognized worldwide he is the most mentioned. But sm has a tendency for trying to replicate(?) Visuals.
    Thanks for the video, again, I came to comment and watch since you deleted the other 2 parts (a pity since it had more info in the comments too).
    Also, Junsu just became the first male soloist to have more than 30k attendees for his concert movie at the cinema😊 so despite the blacklist, and how hard it's promoting for him his achievements don't stop.

    • @Yo99753
      @Yo99753 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sm replicated Jaejoong visuals with Taeyong.

    • @1224thetami
      @1224thetami 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Yo99753 your point? Lol

  • @y.b.7153
    @y.b.7153 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More people should watch this video. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @markigirl2757
    @markigirl2757 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s why I’m glad finally these boys are on TV again and SM got a lot of karma with their own corporate and management issues come to light.

  • @arhonijungio6432
    @arhonijungio6432 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow the depth of SM evilness is just unfathomable !

  • @xiasubs
    @xiasubs หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks again for this very thorough video. I'm sad to see the long comment I wrote gone with the individual videos 😢I understand why you had to delete it though.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xiasubs oh i’m so sorry i had to take them down because youtube thought i was farming content and took away my monetization 😢 i don’t know if you watched this new video entirely but i took the informations that you shared on that commented and added to it.btw thanks a lot for doing it,i feel like this new version got better so i hope you like it

  • @misskanayatabitha
    @misskanayatabitha หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THEY ARE THE BEST! Still love them so much till now! Forever Cassiopeia ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @mingkyumin
    @mingkyumin หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I am the bigest fan of TVXQ DBSK

  • @Prettyfunny40
    @Prettyfunny40 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Those contract terms where terrible. So sorry for them. SM was one greedy company and not fair to their talent. They were such an amazing group!

  • @schmaelepaulection1431
    @schmaelepaulection1431 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love to see your dedication to these kinds of projects! Keep it up! ❤

  • @Sooya_Luver
    @Sooya_Luver หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idk why but I find this series very interesting ❤

  • @HailToTheMeep
    @HailToTheMeep หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Evil exists because good people chose to do nothing. These days a lot of good people have decided to do something.
    JYP allowed GOT7 to keep their name. YG allowed blackpink members to established their own labels and freely have their solo careers.
    Big Hit Entertainment let loose members of BTS on TH-cam and Twitter to communicate directly with fans and anyone who decide to watch them.
    Meanwhile, SM is still doing their old tricks today. Spending more money destroying their own group rather than have the group make money for someone else. Today they have the power of Kakao as their new owner.
    Will CBX be able to free themselves from SM? Why don’t they drop the name CBX so they can be left alone to create music? 😢
    The South Korean music industry is so corrupt. What chance do young people and idols have without proper legal representations against the whole kpop industry? Thank god for representatives who proposed the banning of slave contracts who didn’t give up even after it failed the first time. How could it even failed the first time??
    By the way, WHAT PARENTS SIGNED SUCH SKAVE CONTRACTS?

  • @teresamonholland3414
    @teresamonholland3414 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love TVXQ & have always thought SM did them dirty

  • @user-ui8uw2xc3h
    @user-ui8uw2xc3h หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If possible it would really be cool if you could do a video on what happened to H.O.T/Shinhwa as well since I don’t see anybody else who’s done it. It’s kind of crazy how history has been repeating itself with sm for decades.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ui8uw2xc3h i literally discovered yesterday what happened to h.o.t. and i was shocked.crazy how sm been doing this for decades now and there’s people who still blame the idols.i can definitely make a video on them!thanks for the idea

  • @rodie3602
    @rodie3602 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow, this video has a lot of good information

  • @SpaceAgeCountryG1rl
    @SpaceAgeCountryG1rl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was so good! Could you maybe make a video about SNSD’s legacy, but also more importantly Jessica’s departure and what that meant for the group? I WOULD EAT THAT UPPP

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SpaceAgeCountryG1rl yes thanks for the idea.i made a video on jessica’s departure last year,the voice i used is terrible lol but the research is still one of my favorites i did

  • @baixinhaschannel
    @baixinhaschannel 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for telling their story

  • @Natali0604
    @Natali0604 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice video, thanks

  • @anikalee9012
    @anikalee9012 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know SM. I remember went to a department stire when TVXQ was there. That was the only time I coundn't get in the placee. As sion as I open the door people stuff was push out of the door. I was shock.

  • @sonder8310
    @sonder8310 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just a little correction: the world record fanclub is a myth (that even Yunho believed lol). Last I checked there wss only records for most fanclubs (as in number of them). But they had the biggest kpop fanclub back then for sure and for a long time.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonder8310 thank you

    • @drumtap2792
      @drumtap2792 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From what I understand, the record for biggest fanclub was never actually published in the Guinness Book of World Records, but in 2008, a fan posted online about an official Guinness World Record text service called "Textperts", which was advertised on the books and only available in the UK, that you could text to ask questions about who holds a certain record (it's an old Soompi forum post but unfortunately I can't link it or TH-cam will delete this comment). The photo shows that the fan had texted asking "Who has the largest official fanclub" and the response they got was "According to Guinness World Records, Asia's Top Artists group, TVXQ, known as Cassiopeia has the biggest fanclub of an artist." They then sent another question asking "How many members are in the world's largest official fanclub?" and the response was "Cassiopeia -- the fanclub of Asian group TVXQ -- consist of over 800,000 official members."
      However, the TVXQ Wikipedia page says: "Guinness World Records later stated that "[w]e currently have a category for the largest fanclub for a group, but no record has yet been set and we haven't been provided with any evidence." I tried to access the linked source for that statement, but it looks like you need to register to access the Wiki portal where the evidence was submitted, and I can't find any other info online about it. If anyone has any more info about this, I would love to know more.

    • @sonder8310
      @sonder8310 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@drumtap2792 thanks for this detailed answer! Seems like this "simply question" really leads down a rabbit hole, very interesting.
      I'm curious about the evidence, especially since for kpop ppl joined the official fanclub and I believe to remember that's where the 800.000 claim stemmed from?

    • @drumtap2792
      @drumtap2792 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@sonder8310 No problem, I wish I knew more but it was never published in the books so unfortunately there's no official record. I believe the Korean fans could register as an official member of Cassiopeia on a website, and that's where they got the figure of 800,000 from. Mind you, that was only the number of *officially registered* fans in Korea - not even counting Korean TVXQ fans who weren't registered, international fans, or their Japanese fanclub, Bigeast, which is a behemoth in itself. Taking all of that into account, I can definitely believe they had the world's biggest fanclub at the time.

    • @sonder8310
      @sonder8310 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drumtap2792 oh yeah I remember big Easts numbers being gigantic for the fact they were a foreign act especially. I researched about TVXQ for like 4 months but fanclubs were not my focus, yet this time period in kpop is fascinating

  • @alisac4348
    @alisac4348 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss them so much

  • @fashyalarasati
    @fashyalarasati หลายเดือนก่อน

    That times is total chaos. Even, I got involved of the hot issue of member betrayal. I remember clearly the famwar is really confusing and sick. But, it remains today, actually they need tha consolidation. 😢😢

  • @clarimm6675
    @clarimm6675 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where is that clip from of Monsta X's Minhyuk and Junsu (around 37:50)? I'm a long time Monsta X fan and more or less recently became a Junsu fan, so this clip makes me so happy! 🩷

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      th-cam.com/video/vFDUKv5RkZo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QpuRe1zOJLH6EvgC

    • @xiasubs
      @xiasubs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The full episode th-cam.com/video/-DcLzlsvqAM/w-d-xo.html

  • @vitamin_i_ko4768
    @vitamin_i_ko4768 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi! I would like to translate this video into Russian or Ukrainian for fans. I want to make subtitles. Maybe new fans don't know the whole history of the band, but your video describes everything very succinctly. Can I do it?

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      hii! yes you can.if you prefer you can send me the subtitles through email or social media and i can add to my video and credit you,but if you want to repost the video just don't forget to give me credits :)

  • @davestridr
    @davestridr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank you for this! how long does research take usually for your video essays?

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davestridr it actually depends on the video and how things are going within my personal life.. this one in particular took me a whole month lol but usually i would say like a week and sometimes even less if its a shorter video

  • @Jaeho4ever
    @Jaeho4ever หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very great video 👍

  • @jojoNshadow
    @jojoNshadow หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too bad they can get the hands on all the unaired interviews & footage!

  • @llawliet9103
    @llawliet9103 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool video

  • @rauhinawinitana540
    @rauhinawinitana540 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm new to Kpop and haven't heard of them. Do they still perform together? Oh SM huh? I'm not surprised. Oh I recognize one member. Thanks for the info.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน

      you mean the members who stayed in the group?if so then yes.yunho and changmin are still together as tvxq
      all the other ones are in their individual paths

  • @madkmadk6809
    @madkmadk6809 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wait i thought that before the legal breakup tvxq was always 5? They didn't debut as 5? You said at 4:01 yunho was added later with 7 year contract after the legal dispute? So if he did not debut in 2003 what year did he become tvxq? Also does him beng added later imply that he might have not been that close to the jyj trio members as the trio were to each other since he was added late?

    • @sinnad07
      @sinnad07 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they were talking about before the debut, not before lawsuit.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@madkmadk6809 yunho was removed from tvxq’s line-up prior to the group’s debut,but because of jaesu he was added back so all 5 members debuted in 2003 together.sorry if it got confusing

    • @madkmadk6809
      @madkmadk6809 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@all-kulture thanks for the explanation. So it seems that when all other members signed a 10 year contract while Yunho's father signed a 7 year contract which was more favorable. He of all people should have sided with Jaesu when they filed the lawsuit against SM as he knows that SM is indeed unfavorable

  • @irrelevantFJS
    @irrelevantFJS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I tried to watch this, but the script seemed a bit strange with words being repeated and being in a strange order. It was confusing.

  • @skys4959
    @skys4959 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a new fan of jaejoong. Especially become his big fan after seeing What they gone through. How will u rate his rank among other idols as of day? . I think Idols needs backbone like jyj and should help each other instead of saving themselves alone.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you mean rate his rank in popularity?if yes,he already achieved the legend status so he still extremely famous and most current idols are fans of him.i agree that the boys need more support

    • @skys4959
      @skys4959 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@all-kulture yes . Based on current popularity? What position he will be? I dont know k pop. Infact i dont know 90% of k pop stars. I know very few through news. I came to know jaejoong through recent drama. After seeing what they gone through, become his fan. They deserves big success.

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      well if we compare to current idols he wouldn’t rank much high,older artists naturally lose popularity overtime and on top of that he spend several years blacklisted which affected his popularity but he still super famous

    • @skys4959
      @skys4959 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@all-kulture Thanks for the reply. I hope JJ grows bigger and shows to the world that what they gone through and how successfully they survived.

  • @abcd-jk4zb
    @abcd-jk4zb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh that one JS fan from the other video is here under every comment too. Lmao 😂

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the boys have such passionate fans lol i love it

    • @abcd-jk4zb
      @abcd-jk4zb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@all-kulture Passion is great but some are way too obsessed.

    • @llawliet9103
      @llawliet9103 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it's because of Jaejoong fans who don't have their facts straight, they're everywhere too

    • @abcd-jk4zb
      @abcd-jk4zb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@llawliet9103 nah

    • @llawliet9103
      @llawliet9103 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@abcd-jk4zb Yeah no it's true. There are already a few in this comment section LOL To the Junsu fan correcting them, good job!

  • @user-jc2wq5gs8s
    @user-jc2wq5gs8s หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @me-jt8kb
    @me-jt8kb 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    KARAOKE RIGHTS?!?!

  • @yae0_0
    @yae0_0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What app u use for edit

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i use a software called wondershare filmora

  • @HailToTheMeep
    @HailToTheMeep หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How do you mean “revive the genre”? Isn’t TVXQ the first generation of kpop as SM industrialized western pop which was introduced to South Korea by Seotaiji and Boys? When you say the biggest fan club do you mean they actually have a club and not a fandom like what we have today?

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      tvxq is second gen.k-pop was at a low moment prior to tvxq's debut but following the success they received several other artists appeared thus starting the second generation
      a person corrected me in the comments of the video saying that tvxq didn't actually entered the guinness book for having the biggest fan club so now i'm not sure

    • @drumtap2792
      @drumtap2792 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Regarding the whole "world record for having the biggest fanclub" issue: it's all a bit vague. Back in the day, the story used to be that TVXQ held the Guinness World Record in 2008 for having the biggest official fan club in the world, Cassiopeia, with 800,000 registered members. It later became apparent that the record was never actually published in the Guinness Book of World Records, but then a fan posted online about what was supposedly an official Guinness World Record text service called "Textperts", only available in the UK, which was advertised on the books that you could text to ask questions about who holds a certain record. The photo showed that the fan had texted "Who has the largest official fanclub" to the number, and the response they got was "According to Guinness World Records, Asia's Top Artists group, TVXQ, known as Cassiopeia has the biggest fanclub of an artist." The fan then sent another question asking "How many members are in the world's largest official fan club?" and the response was "Cassiopeia -- the fan club of Asian group TVXQ -- consist of over 800,000 official members."
      However, the TVXQ Wikipedia page says this: "Guinness World Records later stated that "[w]e currently have a category for the largest fanclub for a group, but no record has yet been set and we haven't been provided with any evidence." I tried to access the linked source for that statement, but it looks like you need to register to access the Wiki portal where the evidence was submitted, and I can't find any other info online about it.

  • @LX777
    @LX777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would've liked the video a lot more if you didn't use the Burnings Sun person. He is actually the person that should be banned from the industry and forgotten from everyone!

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      he was not involved in the burning sun but i understand you. i tried my best to mention him as least as possible

    • @procyon1
      @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@all-kulture I think the op talking about Seungri, not Yoochun

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @procyon1 oh yeah i didn't remembered i used a video of seungri lol a lot of believe yoochun was a part of bs bc of the allegations against him so i assumed they were talking about him

  • @vandythevandy
    @vandythevandy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I appreciate the research and effort etc so much but maybe next time PLEASE look up how to pronounce names 😭😭 driving me crazy,,maybe if it’s too hard use just their last name or stage name…

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i do look that up,that’s the english pronunciation of their names..even in interviews thats how they pronounce it

  • @cloudywithoutrain
    @cloudywithoutrain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is the cosmetic business became the reason of the lawsuit? Please make it clear🙏🏻

    • @higherground0711
      @higherground0711 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      32:42 bc of unfair treatment

    • @cloudywithoutrain
      @cloudywithoutrain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thankyou, i wanna make it clear cause maybe non-fans will only notice till 9:20 part

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@cloudywithoutrain i mentioned it at the beginning of the video as well 3:29 sorry if it got confusing

    • @cloudywithoutrain
      @cloudywithoutrain หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@all-kulture it still good, thanks for your work and this detail video😊

    • @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362
      @kimjaejoongthelegendarykin7362 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nope it was never, Jaejoong wasn't even part of that business. And technically even Junsu and Yoochun, cuz it was members of their families running that business. There's no celebrity who doesn't have families running business and having pics of their celebrity kids hanging on the wall, so how can that business be a problem in first place, let alone be the reason of a big lawsuit. Btw SM was charged for defamation after trying to say the cosmetic business of YooSu families was the problem. The court said it has no relationship, and SM was definitely making defamation and they got them charged.

  • @JaejoongTeam
    @JaejoongTeam หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You sure you have written correct? Most of the songs during tv5xq & JYJ era was written by Jaejoong and he’s the one as the composer/lyrics writer not the other member. Though Jaejoong & Junsu definitely are the best vocals in the group. For Jaejoong, it isn’t only his visual but his wide range of vocal, his voice was addressed as the rainbow voice. Don’t just focus on his visual despite it well visual shock, but most of his fans and non-fans are wowed by his singing & good character 😊

    • @all-kulture
      @all-kulture  หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@JaejoongTeam i’m confused..i did mentioned that jaejoong is a songwriter and is known to be a great vocalist too

    • @irregularbound
      @irregularbound หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@all-kulture Also saying most of the songs were written by Jaejoong is a stretch.

    • @procyon1
      @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most of the Tvxq songs written by Jaejoong???? He wrote only 4 or 5 songs for TVXQ. Even Yoochun has more songwriting credits for TVXQ.

    • @abcd-jk4zb
      @abcd-jk4zb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm his fan but jaejoong barely wrote 3 or 4 during TVXQ and even with JYJ. C'mon now.

    • @procyon1
      @procyon1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@abcd-jk4zb Sorry but i can't agree with this. He wrote many songs for JYJ. He wrote at least 3 songs on each of their albums.

  • @xoxobeaxoxo
    @xoxobeaxoxo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    is it forgotten? or you just live in a parallel universe? because they are hugely popular still in korea lmfao

  • @dentaifangirl
    @dentaifangirl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The amount of research that went into this is INSANE. Thank you so much for bringing the light to these unsung heroes :')