Anyone can say anything about Kim Heechul but he's a ride or die friend. He kept his friendship with Han Geng, even showed his first album on air and kept contact with him all these years.
Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
Man, new kpop fans really don't know how easy their idols have it today!! Those 2ng gen idols especially reallyyyy went thru it and came out on top to reform the industry's practices
I feel like SuJu was the prototype for lots of controversies. As in what got uncovered for them gave companies a blueprint on how to cover up these things for their future groups. Kpop truly is a very dirty business behind the scenes.
My wonderful Heechul... he's a good friend. He also taught korean and accompanied Hangeng on variety shows so he could help him with the language. I still feel sad thinking about what Hangeng went through but I'm happy knowing he's doing very well now and have a good, established acting career and a beautiful family.
not just him all the super junior korean citzen member loved him they all amazing friend to hangeng care for him,defend him,take care of him as well learning his culture and teaching him their culture.
@@khangnguyen550Yes, Hangeng mentioned on a chinese show that Super Junior's members shared their money with him even though most of them came from poor families when they debuted.
@amenikabtni1506 yeah I find it so cute when korean member love him make him feel welcome he been face racism and discrimination feel alone in foreign until zhoumi and henry join as super junior m the Chinese trio had each other to keep each other company.
@@all-kulture Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
Although Hankyung and Suju can’t perform on the same stage anymore but they’ll always be together. Look how Hankyung still keeps in touch with Heechul and reunites with other members at Ryeowook’s wedding
Knowing how poorly they treated Henry Lau when he joined SuJu, I can’t imagine how it was for Hengeng debuting before him…foreigners were (and still are) treated terribly in kpop.
wow, i didn’t know about him until this video. as the first chinese kpop idol, he definitely was put through the wringer but so much success followed him because he was the first. i’m grateful to him bc without him i probably wouldn’t have tzuyu (one of my ults) or we wouldn’t have idols like handong, yuqi, ten, minnie, minghao, etc. i also think it was good for korea as a country to see more diversity in kpop, even though sinophobia is still rampant.
@@brennathecatlover4360 i get that too, and i don’t know if hangeng was the first non korean idol ever, but i assumed so when i wrote the comment. so what i was trying to say based off that assumption is that bc of him we are now able to see all idols of various ethnicities and nationalities. it took one to open more companies to the idea of having a non korean member in a group.
@@brennathecatlover4360 hangeng eg super junior, nichkhun 2pm and also alexender from u-kiss literally open for future foreign idol when they first debut they suffer a lot from racism,discrimination if nichkhun and alexender debut 3 year earlier they have wear mask or visa problem like hangeng they literally open to their junior to have much easier career in south korea lucky they korean citzen member love them and protect them and defend them.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm a fan of Han Geng and it's really hard to find information about him in English. I saw many pre-debut pictures I never saw before. He's insanely talented in dance and performance. I hope people check out his solo music. He's amazing, a sweetheart and his songs are bops.
Hangeng had a terrible time, but it's so sweet to see that after all this years, and all the had to endure, he's still in good terms with the members! It really show what kind of person he is and also the members, always having each others backs, even if they can't always show it openly. I'm just so happy that all work out for him!! 💙💙
Every time the mask thing is mentioned my heart hurts... After all I'm so glad I've been his fan for so long! You didn't mention, but he also launched his own cellphone and it was called GengPhone, it had exclusive apps, photos, videos, themes. I remember how much I wanted it at that time!! ahahahah (I hate Transformers and remember going to the cinema just to see this 2sec of him on screen!)
Also! The Siwon incident was that they apparently got so sick that doctor’s told them to stay in the hospital to at least get IV fluids but a manager(?) came and ripped it out and forced them to show up
thank you for sharing his story I agree he is often forgotten, even by newest Suju fans, so having his story so thoroughly researched and shared makes me quite happy.
Hangeng is the 1st Chinese idol and Nichkun is the 1st Thai idol, does Shoo from SES count as the 1st Japanese idol despite being half-Korean? Also, I think it would cool to have like a small video or community post saying who's the 1st idol from certain countries or regions. Like 1st Canadian idol or 1st idol from Hong Kong.
yeah if you’re saying this because i mentioned lisa,i didn’t say she was the first thai to debut but yes the most famous. i’m not sure if shoo would count as the first japanese,it really depends on your own culture and point of view..and that’s a very cool idea thanks for sharing :)
If you don't want to count Shoo as the 1st japanese idol, you can always consider some members of Circle (Ayako and Yuka, fully japanese, and Shirayuki/Baixue, japanese-chinese; the other two members were korean), a girl group that debuted in 1998 :D
I glade hangeng have other korean citzen member they literally defend,care for him,teaching him the korean culture when he literally alone only foreigner until zhoumi and henry the three them have each other but yeah hangeng super junior,nichkhun from 2pm and alexender from u-kiss literally open door for 3rd gen,4th and 5th gen kpop idol to debut and have easier career in south korea when them three first debut I remember hearing and reading it online how them three face racism and discrimnation by korea netizen and hating on them and how they treated different compared tot their korean citzen member if nichkhun and alexender 3 year earlier with hangeng they have to wear mask as well and properly have visa problem they open door for future foreign idol haengeng for chinese and nichkhun for future thai to debut.
He was my favorite member (and still is, when he left I never found a new bias tbh), especially during the comeback stages for its you and sorry sorry. Hangeng performed sorry sorry for the first two stages(?) I believe. I remember wanting to see more of hangeng during the performances because they would only show glimpses that didn’t even last half a second almost as if the camera was avoiding him at all cost.
I became a fan of EXO in 2020 (I didn't know anything about kpop before and only knew a couple songs by bp) and one of the first things I knew was how terrible SM treated the former chinese members and lay who is still in the group, so it is very sad knowing how they treated the oldest chinese idols there... and while yes, they are a little bit better now towards foreign members (as in nct and aespa riize (that doesnt mean they don't mistreat them but compare to the previous groups i think they are better now)) it's still not good enough.
@@megumi7231 I count them as members as Eunhyuk told us to ..the way knetizens didn't accept yuri and seunghan ..it was the same for zhoumi and Henry..Eunhyuk cried and begged the fans to accept them in concert.
not sure which one you referring to so heres both lol th-cam.com/video/z4-Nnn3mzbE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BKj2lwbNv4FNiI3e th-cam.com/video/hxNYnpad7Gs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LrlaCM9yYdGUMZyW
![[ENG SUB] HANGENG about SM & SJ .](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IjAdpy3bDl4/mqdefault.jpg)
Sm was treating him like such a prisoner
Anyone can say anything about Kim Heechul but he's a ride or die friend. He kept his friendship with Han Geng, even showed his first album on air and kept contact with him all these years.
he is a prime examples of how sm treats Chinese kpop idols
Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
Hangeng walked, so Tao, Luhan, almost all WayV and Ning Ning could run
Heechul was a savage for doing that... proud 💙💙💙
Man, new kpop fans really don't know how easy their idols have it today!! Those 2ng gen idols especially reallyyyy went thru it and came out on top to reform the industry's practices
Lost media and kpop in one video? What a good way to spend a rainy afternoon.
13 year contract 😧
T-T
Literally crual and diabolical !
That was JYJ’s reaction too haha
Oh, him leaving was such a controversy! SuJu was never the same. It became the start of a lot of things that exposed Kpop for what it is.
I feel like SuJu was the prototype for lots of controversies. As in what got uncovered for them gave companies a blueprint on how to cover up these things for their future groups. Kpop truly is a very dirty business behind the scenes.
My wonderful Heechul... he's a good friend. He also taught korean and accompanied Hangeng on variety shows so he could help him with the language. I still feel sad thinking about what Hangeng went through but I'm happy knowing he's doing very well now and have a good, established acting career and a beautiful family.
not just him all the super junior korean citzen member loved him they all amazing friend to hangeng care for him,defend him,take care of him as well learning his culture and teaching him their culture.
He was at Ryeowook's wedding recently 😊
@@khangnguyen550Yes, Hangeng mentioned on a chinese show that Super Junior's members shared their money with him even though most of them came from poor families when they debuted.
@amenikabtni1506 yeah I find it so cute when korean member love him make him feel welcome he been face racism and discrimination feel alone in foreign until zhoumi and henry join as super junior m the Chinese trio had each other to keep each other company.
The first foreigner in kpop! I still love him and all super junior members! 💙
he was not the first foreigner in k-pop but he was the first chinese 🤍
@@all-kulture Hangeng was the first foreign idol in Kpop to become really popular and influential in the industry. He's the one who paved the way for foreign idols. He was the most googled Kpop idol at the time when he was active as a Super Junior member even though he was not Korean, and he was booked left and right but SM and Korean authorities restricted his activities because he was foreign. He was one of the top most popular members in the group and his ship with Heechul was iconic. That's why his return to China was HUGE. He's the one who saved Yuehua Entertainment from bankruptcy and is the reason why it is the biggest Artist management company in China now. He has also created many big stars after him. Hangeng has received more than 75 grand awards which includes Artist Of the Year, Song of The Year, and Most Popular Actor. Plus, he was the first Chinese artist ever to win an MTV award : MTV Europe Music Awards' "Best Worldwide Act".
@@amenikabtni1506 girl the first foreign idol was shoo from s.e.s
Although Hankyung and Suju can’t perform on the same stage anymore but they’ll always be together. Look how Hankyung still keeps in touch with Heechul and reunites with other members at Ryeowook’s wedding
Knowing how poorly they treated Henry Lau when he joined SuJu, I can’t imagine how it was for Hengeng debuting before him…foreigners were (and still are) treated terribly in kpop.
wow, i didn’t know about him until this video. as the first chinese kpop idol, he definitely was put through the wringer but so much success followed him because he was the first. i’m grateful to him bc without him i probably wouldn’t have tzuyu (one of my ults) or we wouldn’t have idols like handong, yuqi, ten, minnie, minghao, etc. i also think it was good for korea as a country to see more diversity in kpop, even though sinophobia is still rampant.
Ten and Minnie are Thai lol for them u could probably thank nichkhun
@@brennathecatlover4360 i know, i was just trying to name some foreign non japanese kidols. i did forget about nickhun tho, he was the og
@@plumgf I meant how u said hangeng opened the door for Chinese idols nichkhun opened the door for Thai idols like ten Minnie sorn natty joy mint etc
@@brennathecatlover4360 i get that too, and i don’t know if hangeng was the first non korean idol ever, but i assumed so when i wrote the comment. so what i was trying to say based off that assumption is that bc of him we are now able to see all idols of various ethnicities and nationalities. it took one to open more companies to the idea of having a non korean member in a group.
@@brennathecatlover4360 hangeng eg super junior, nichkhun 2pm and also alexender from u-kiss literally open for future foreign idol when they first debut they suffer a lot from racism,discrimination if nichkhun and alexender debut 3 year earlier they have wear mask or visa problem like hangeng they literally open to their junior to have much easier career in south korea lucky they korean citzen member love them and protect them and defend them.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm a fan of Han Geng and it's really hard to find information about him in English. I saw many pre-debut pictures I never saw before. He's insanely talented in dance and performance. I hope people check out his solo music. He's amazing, a sweetheart and his songs are bops.
Also notable mention, Han Geng is mentor and good friend of one of recent chinese biggest stars, Wang Yibo.
Hangeng had a terrible time, but it's so sweet to see that after all this years, and all the had to endure, he's still in good terms with the members! It really show what kind of person he is and also the members, always having each others backs, even if they can't always show it openly.
I'm just so happy that all work out for him!! 💙💙
Every time the mask thing is mentioned my heart hurts... After all I'm so glad I've been his fan for so long! You didn't mention, but he also launched his own cellphone and it was called GengPhone, it had exclusive apps, photos, videos, themes. I remember how much I wanted it at that time!! ahahahah (I hate Transformers and remember going to the cinema just to see this 2sec of him on screen!)
Your content is what I always feel people never talk about enough
Also! The Siwon incident was that they apparently got so sick that doctor’s told them to stay in the hospital to at least get IV fluids but a manager(?) came and ripped it out and forced them to show up
hangeng deserved so much better🙁
I remember him cause of super junior M was who got me to like Super Junior. I’m glad he won his lawsuit.
He was my bias in Suju along with Jaejoong in TVXQ. You know 2009, the 1st time I stan them, my heart was broken right away 😅
thank you for sharing his story
I agree he is often forgotten, even by newest Suju fans, so having his story so thoroughly researched and shared makes me quite happy.
Hangeng is the 1st Chinese idol and Nichkun is the 1st Thai idol, does Shoo from SES count as the 1st Japanese idol despite being half-Korean?
Also, I think it would cool to have like a small video or community post saying who's the 1st idol from certain countries or regions. Like 1st Canadian idol or 1st idol from Hong Kong.
yeah if you’re saying this because i mentioned lisa,i didn’t say she was the first thai to debut but yes the most famous.
i’m not sure if shoo would count as the first japanese,it really depends on your own culture and point of view..and that’s a very cool idea thanks for sharing :)
If you don't want to count Shoo as the 1st japanese idol, you can always consider some members of Circle (Ayako and Yuka, fully japanese, and Shirayuki/Baixue, japanese-chinese; the other two members were korean), a girl group that debuted in 1998 :D
@@all-kulture I know you meant she's the most famous, I only mentioned Nichkun cause I wanted to talk about the 1st idols from each country
@@SaloCovers I never heard of them, can you tell me the name of any of their songs so I can try to look for them?
I like the way you tell stories, very informative, thank you
I glade hangeng have other korean citzen member they literally defend,care for him,teaching him the korean culture when he literally alone only foreigner until zhoumi and henry the three them have each other but yeah hangeng super junior,nichkhun from 2pm and alexender from u-kiss literally open door for 3rd gen,4th and 5th gen kpop idol to debut and have easier career in south korea when them three first debut I remember hearing and reading it online how them three face racism and discrimnation by korea netizen and hating on them and how they treated different compared tot their korean citzen member if nichkhun and alexender 3 year earlier with hangeng they have to wear mask as well and properly have visa problem they open door for future foreign idol haengeng for chinese and nichkhun for future thai to debut.
Thank you for making this video to remind others about this issue
He was my favorite member (and still is, when he left I never found a new bias tbh), especially during the comeback stages for its you and sorry sorry. Hangeng performed sorry sorry for the first two stages(?) I believe. I remember wanting to see more of hangeng during the performances because they would only show glimpses that didn’t even last half a second almost as if the camera was avoiding him at all cost.
Hangeng is one of FAVERITE SUJU MEMBER as well as Sungmin
Heechul hangeng hanchul 💖💖💖💖
Heechul😂 ofc he did that
Had no idea there was a Chinese member. Thanks for sharing.
18:05 Oh....
I became a fan of EXO in 2020 (I didn't know anything about kpop before and only knew a couple songs by bp) and one of the first things I knew was how terrible SM treated the former chinese members and lay who is still in the group, so it is very sad knowing how they treated the oldest chinese idols there... and while yes, they are a little bit better now towards foreign members (as in nct and aespa riize (that doesnt mean they don't mistreat them but compare to the previous groups i think they are better now)) it's still not good enough.
super junior had 15 members total?
yes
Henry and Zhoumi aren't official members, only apart of the M unit so technically only 13
@@megumi7231 I count them as members as Eunhyuk told us to ..the way knetizens didn't accept yuri and seunghan ..it was the same for zhoumi and Henry..Eunhyuk cried and begged the fans to accept them in concert.
Super junior had 15 members ???
if we’re counting the sub-units as well yes
4:17 wich vid is this clip from >//
not sure which one you referring to so heres both lol
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th-cam.com/video/hxNYnpad7Gs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LrlaCM9yYdGUMZyW
What name of intro song?
@@sakurakou2009 roly poly in copacabana