Honestly, I'm pretty impressed. The game overall is extremely close to the final product and wasn't misleading at all, other than the few changes to the objects in the bus. The more natural colors also look a lot better in the retail release IMO.
lifelong Crusader I did. The revamped enemy placement is most likely a result of play testing finding a better place for it, not performance issues. As for some of the objects missing, those make such a small overall effect on the game that they are a non-issue.
[SD]ViRuZ if you’ve been outdoors somewhere unpolluted or fairly isolated from the city, from my experience pre release’s colours and textures look more realistic than retail, except maybe the dirt and a few other things. The bright and in depth textures could’ve used a bit too much of the gpu’s texture mapping units here and there.
It's almost suprising how close the final product is to the E3 demo, considering this is Ubisoft we're talking about. I don't think I can think of a worse contender when it comes to false game advertising. Having that said, Far Cry 5 in my opinion was better than I expected, and I've really been enjoying it so far.
Patrick Anderson gotta agree with you there. But ubisoft has been doing ok the past few years. Consider ghost recon wildlands, watchdogs2, assassins creed syndicate and origins, and a few other titles. All of these games when shown at e3 looked about the same as the official release
Patrick Anderson I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think ubisoft is the only trustworthy company out their, no lootboxes, games seem to have heart into them, and they graphics look good.
Other than the saturation, which can be changed in post, its pretty much the same. The retail lighting looks better in my opinion even thought time of day is different
Seriously, the obsession some people have with digging out something or the other to shit on games with is ridiculous these days. Just enjoy the damn game. If it's noticeably shit then it'll come up in the reviews. Don't need a "Spot the difference" style video to cover it.
The removal of half the objects, decals and effects does not look "pretty much the same". Pre-release looks like an alive and dynamic world, retail looks like a rigid and empty video game world. Don't let your eyes be fooled by the higher quality of the retail capture.
Even if you don't have eyes, the video tells you that many objects have disappeared and thus do not look the same. If you do have eyes it is extremely easy to notice that a lot is missing from the retail, even if the resolution and textures are better (due to the way it is captured, not due to the quality of the graphics).
They can't drive on the road for shit, they constantly repeat the same damn phrases... Hell I often go into battle or to liberate places alone simply because the AI get in the way or kill each other on accident lol. I love this game, and it looks great, but you're right. The AI could use a patch or two.
Besides the bus part and no dead guy on the tractor and no opened gate the bus on e3 was way better more details stuff and blood and gravity the dead guy next to the tractor looked way better and the opened gate made more sense
Yeah, I know that Ubisoft is aware they downgrade because they addressed it before and they are able to make games better in animation than actually playing it
28RLiMod haha dude same here! I was so pissed because I really wanted to take my time in the region and work my way there but nope the game basically punished you for savoring the experience!
I think it makes the world dynamic. It also promotes playing the game multiple times differently. The other side of this coin is games like Fallout 4. You have absolute freedom to explore at your leisure, but you're supposed to be looking for your missing son. Oh well, he'll probably be fine... Time to go collect baseballs cards or Nuka-Colas.
Honestly, the retail release looks considerably better in a lot of ways. The only thing I really miss from the E3 vids are the little details like the burning cars, flags waving, atmospheric placement of bodies, trash, and debris. But the way it affected performance, I'm glad they took them out. Oh well, in a year or two, we'll have the next generation of consoles, and performance will grow by leaps and bound. When it comes time to get a surgical implant to log in to the matrix, I'll be one of the first in line.
So its fine for video games to market their game with all these unattainable atmospheric graphical details and claim it is in-game footage, and subsequently take them out for release for performance reasons? Surely that is still false advertising. Don't show what you can't deliver. Retail only looks better because the capture is done directly from a 1440p game client, the pre-release is captured from a compressed TH-cam video.
it's just that they prefer quantity over quality, there's no reason to curb the quality of their game. If far cry 5 weather, at least it rains and reflects like gta v is great. not to mention their Ragdoll physics is bad in every game. I can give it a score of 4/10.
Game turned out surprisingly good and without any pre release tricks in my opinion. Anything they changed had a purpose, and was minor. Now if they could just fix the AI it would be a 10/10 lol.
Overall i'm quite impressed by the level of honesty Far Cry 5's E3 presentation turned out to have, they had to make sacrifices to for performance and they did add some stuff that was purely so it would look impressive. But i'm happy that Ubisoft is turning away from the level of trickery that the Watch Dogs presentation had.
I love how this game took the rural american vibe and turned it to 11.. More guns, hunting, fishing and over the top stunts than you can shake a stick at. Great game.
That is an interesting idea - I like that idea of having your "Guns for Hire" interacting in the post mission cut scene with the locals - I think that is very effective. Even more so if the person you have as a guns for hire results in a different person being in the cutscenes.
I just had another idea. The shop people are scattered all over right, well how about the 1st time you fish you have to go speak to one of the shop guys and they have an actual personality and they basically teach you how to fish, and also comment if you get an especially large or small fish. Likewise if you buy say Incendiary ammo for the first time they can send you to a particular seller on the map and get them to explain it to you. I think integrating the shop people into the missions and tutorials and giving them more personality would be useful.
Ambient occlusion seems to have been toned down (or removed even). The contrast and saturation seems to be toned down as well, but that's fine. You can tune your TV itself to look somehow similar to the E3 demo. Overall, it's nice to see that it wasn't heavily downgraded.
I like the E3 version more actually. I still remember when Ubisoft announced Far Cry 5 with their short teaser trailers last year. The game had a 'creepy' vibe back then.
I played through the entire game twice and didn't notice there was no rain. I was too busy having fun with it. crazy how things just slip past you if you're not paying attention
Kinda surprised to find people in the comments that think the difference is insignificant. I feel like people are mislead by the retail being sharper because it is directly captured footage instead of captured of TH-cam like the pre-release. Just the amount of detail, objects and effects that have been removed still make the retail a misleading downgrade from the pre-release if you ask me. The world looks empty, while at first it looked very detailed and alive.
Exactly, and I tried to emphasize this many times, but it's difficult when you see one slightly blurry image compared to a high resolution 1440p capture of PC footage. Surprised Ubisoft only posted trailer content for this game at 1080p. Would've liked the higher bitrate to make better comparisons.
Agreed. Going through the comments "woah! the final looks way better" lolwut? While I will concede that 'this time' (FC5) the "downgrade" wasn't as bad as it's been but to say it looks better? No way. So much detail gone. Also, the world seems more fleshed out and the situations with the hostages look more interesting (in the pre-release) because everything is set up like a scene. In the actual game, every encounter is just like every encounter before and it all just looks the same over and over and over. The hand-made pre-release content looks much more interesting and diverse. On the positive side, the game released rather well optimized (codephrase for: took out tons of details that slow games down but would have otherwise made it look amazing) so it did run well. If only there was a graphics setting that would retain the maximum details for those with the appropriate hardware. Let's just call this mode 'maximum' and that would only be the top most option with several other options with less details and more performance. Who'd have thought of something so obscure in a computer game though, yeesh? smh
In falls end, it seems like props and npc were moved to the area in front of the church to let the viewer see more of the charectors associated with that area for the demo. They probably also added more detail to that specific scene for the demo. Also here's a fun fact: All the cutscenes are in engine, rendered real time
This is actually a pleasant surprise that the game isn't downgraded so much from the E3 presentation, like most of Ubisoft's previous games. Looks like they have finally decided enough was, enough. Hopefully this'll mean they have stopped their pointless scam and will start presenting the retail version of the game at E3.
The way I see it regarding props is that the retail is designed for an environment you can pass through and play again without feeling off. Meanwhile the E3 demo was designed to build atmosphere and enhance story telling for the demo.
I honestly would prefer performance over graphics. either way the game looks amazing but the pre launch footage does look quite blurry and during some gameplay quite laggy as well. I'm all for pushing graphics to look better, but not at the cost of performance.
Wow, this video did blow me away! I always love comparson of (pc) games video's but never did i see one that shows it so well and specially so long! You clearly did do your best to put these 2 images beside each other, with so mch footages! To answer your question, nearly always the pre-release footage of a game looks much much better but this time i have to say the release version is much sharper! Only the pre- has more details here and there, but that they always have. again, great video! Will watch some more of you! Leon
I'm surprised anyone expected the retail final build to look like pre-release. Lest we forget, that pre-release video had the game made to look like that for marketing purposes. Devs often do this where they take a level, and make it "pretty" in order to make the gameplay look more fun. Hence why that tractor was static and there was more stuff in the town. No doubt they ONLY did that for THAT particular section and part of the game. We were never shown other parts, and by the time trailers closer to release date came out, they were already showing the retail version's graphics.
I am totally fine with the look of retail farcry 5. Nice visuals and smoother gameplay on Ultra Settings than i had with Farcry 4 on the same rig. I have more issues with gameplay, somehow i have no bonding to my character, as he/she does not speak, like Ajay in FC4 or Jason in FC3 . So the storyline feels very flat to me, i feel like a visitor, a watchman, not a part of it. And i am missing some gameplay mechanics or feelings wich i can not even point to. There are some very good additions but i feel like some things are missing. I just dont know what it is but it feels flat sometimes.
Listen devs, some of us have machines in the top 10% who would love every shiny thing you make. Give us the options. My 1070 isn't breaking a sweat in 1080p here.
Pre-release looks better , probably they optimized some minor stuff which had little impact on graphics but big performance impact (Im my opinion pre release looks like retail game with a few graphic mods so it looks noticeable better but not game changing)
Removal of a few props and slight changes to the contrast are what we as consumers can live with, especialy in this case as they seem to have been done to improve the overall game. Compared to previous games they have released when the final version is worse than the pre-release, they have nailed this one! I hope they keep it up
Despite the minor changes and such Ubisoft have actually stayed quite true to e3 release and I feel like all the changes made are justified and fair play
Great video !!! Indeed Ubi really made an outstanding job with the openworld of FC5. I only have one grief. The player has no shadow, which leads me to feel that i am playing like a moving camera in this shadow-filled world. Why did they choose this route? You can even see it when let's say you ride an ATV with a companion. You can see their shadow as passengers but there is no one driving the vehicle :)) Does that mean you are actually a vampire ?? hmmm
All the farcry games have great music. Some of its trippy or far out, some is just smooth guitar strings. Even the tribal beats they made for primal was atmospheric.
Kronixs_93 the gameplay at E3 is what PCs can handle only but not consoles, so it looks much better, they downgrade the game so people on console will be able to run it so more people will buy which equals to more sales
Mert its not so much of a graphical difference, they look the same, but the lightning/color has been changed, they deleted some objects and actually re did the whole area so it looks more simplier/lazier. i dont think the e3 version would make consoles have problems to run the game because "its not strong enough". the gap there is not so much that it would cause a problem.
well if youre speaking of it in general, that might be true that they ran it on PC and had to tone it down for console releases. but then that doesnt answer why they even did it. its more like they wanted to showcase the game first as interesting as possible (graphical wise) but then blantantly lie about it. because thats just their politics of selling.
The deal is if you get to a certain point in John's region without doing that mission you don't get to, since John needs it for another mission. I'm not 100% but I think it happens if you get to resistance level 3, prior to that you should have no problem. As far as I know it's the only one like that. Btw I'm on my second playthrough and it's honestly worthwhile, I would consider finishing and starting over if I were you. Start out in a different area first, maybe even up the difficulty! I actually prefer playing on hard.
Falls End is a location that's necessary for a fixed story point. So if you didn't go liberate the town before it was required for the story progression it basically liberates itself
First of all chill the fuck out, whether or not you want to admit it there's alot of side activities to be completed and plenty of space to explore, just because it was "urgent" and they got sidetracked doesn't mean they're shit at the game because they actually wanted to enjoy the game's content without being rushed through the main missions.
Pre release versions of the game like this are made to make the game look super good as it usually is only rendering one area for the E3 showcase, in this case falls end
HA-R00N FA-HA nothing against W3 i love it so much. But that game also received significant downgrade as it was running on a powerful PC build when first shown off. Even the boxart for W3 was misleading as the game looked nothing like that on console.
Yes, it is true that the more exaggerated bloom, color saturation, lighting placement, motion blur and thickness of foliage in the pre-release build lends the game a unique sense of environmental vibrancy. It's almost whimsical-like and gives things a BioShock Infinite look. However, I'm among those glad that they dialed back on those exaggerated features in the final build. The more natural level of color saturation and lighting placement gives FC5 a more photo realistic quality in most instances as compared to pre-release. While the FC Series often asks players to suspend their disbelief, I've always found immersion in the series more enjoyable when the environment has a more realistic feel.
im actually really impressed. it holds up quite freaking well, which seems to be fairly uncommon now-a-days. much different from my old most anticipated and biggest let-down, The Division.
I can tell you this much... Playing it on a 75" 4K TV with HDR using my gaming laptop..... IT LOOKS INCREDIBLE. It's the most detailed and beautiful game I have ever played in my life.
As someone who played this on ultra in 1440p with a 1080ti and an i7 7700k @ 4.5ghz I'm glad they toned it down. This game is a BEAST to run and easily 100% maxed out my card. Temps were stable but FPS drops were frequent at max resolution. The game is gorgeous but I can see why they removed some of the clutter.
Late to the party, but here's my theory: the decor was made less colorfull for the sake of gameplay. Items to interact with (lootboxes, powerswitches etc.) are all conveniently yellow, and stuff that'll blow up if you shoot it is red. The pre-release version would've made it much harder to pinpoint these items.
Honestly, to avoid disappointing people, I feel like they should start development with more realistic expectations, showcase the game, then start adding in more props, effects, and details until they know the hardware can't handle more. It's less aggressive now than it used to be, but it's still an issue, where games are showcased with higher promise than what was realistically possible or tested. When you have to downgrade/change things after you already showed what was done, you're changing the atmosphere and visual story telling of your game, that people were expecting. Doom 2016 is a great example of showing something you know is possible, then improving aspects after the demo was showcased.
The clip from fall end has you go around from the backside of the town. And you can straight out tell e3 just made it better looking down that path. When in retail youll have to circle around the whole town to get there. So players wouldn't naturally woukd not make that route. Players woukd go down the streets where there's a gas truck with people on roof tops or a lady about to be beat to death. I thing they switch the focus points. Not downgraded. Because you spawn in the middle of the map youll wanna put the better interest on the other side of town.
too bad this game doesnt have dynamic weather changes. Makes the open world games so much better with it, too
Mark LeeMaoShengHiNoon ikr
Yeah some rain would be nice here and there.
yeah totally agree. Huge disappointment that it's still absent from Far Cry.. it was in FC2 and FC3.
Nick930 it was in FC3?? I dont remember
Losing dynamic weather on FC4 is okay to me, considering the place is near mountain. But here in FC5, it's a little bit of disappointment.
Honestly, I'm pretty impressed. The game overall is extremely close to the final product and wasn't misleading at all, other than the few changes to the objects in the bus. The more natural colors also look a lot better in the retail release IMO.
coalburn I know you can tell ubisoft really put their full effort into it. They did a good job on this game
There wasn’t a digitty-diggity downgrade.
lifelong Crusader I did. The revamped enemy placement is most likely a result of play testing finding a better place for it, not performance issues. As for some of the objects missing, those make such a small overall effect on the game that they are a non-issue.
Yeah ubisoft is really stepping up their game
coalburn the lighting is worse in retail, outdoor shadows should have a blue tint from the sky. The retail version looks too washed out.
honesty speaking fc5 still amazing looking and well optimized game
"well optimized"
you ever played Far Cry 2??
@@suspicioustesticles8948 yes it is, it can run on even older hardware at 40 to 60 fps
I agree with that, still run on my old machines with everything high except the shadow.
It is deffinetly not well optimized for console my ps4 pro runs it at 20 to 30 fps and the graphics arent even that good
1st the colors in pre-release it’s insane
Yeah i know right? Those colors look more blown out then they did in Far Cry 3... is that a good thing though?
Has anyone tried cranking up the contrast, gamma and brightness settings in the game options to make it look closer to the demo?
Patrick Anderson i tried but that bloom in the e3 demo still wont be present
Fair enough. I personally think it was a little over the top anyway, heh.
Thank you, captain obvious.
the retail is way more natural looking imo
[SD]ViRuZ if you’ve been outdoors somewhere unpolluted or fairly isolated from the city, from my experience pre release’s colours and textures look more realistic than retail, except maybe the dirt and a few other things. The bright and in depth textures could’ve used a bit too much of the gpu’s texture mapping units here and there.
InfiniteTech nah, the pre release is too bright and over saturated, the retail looks like it's cloudy but nicer and easier to the eye.
yeah my left eye hurt after watching this video, blown out saturation is the worst
You fanboys are just excusing the downgrade 🙄
they are in the US, aint no such thing as 'unpoluted'
4:50 Minecraft bush in retail
J. Smith ooo good call. Looks like FC5 has a lower LOD
Nick930 good comparisons man, you actually go in depth unlike some people, earnt a sub
I Think Ps4 and Xbox one too bad for qulity like a pc
@@addy4209 Xbox one x looks amazing tho. No cap. Native 4k
got to optimise the game by decreasing LOD
It's almost suprising how close the final product is to the E3 demo, considering this is Ubisoft we're talking about. I don't think I can think of a worse contender when it comes to false game advertising. Having that said, Far Cry 5 in my opinion was better than I expected, and I've really been enjoying it so far.
Patrick Anderson gotta agree with you there. But ubisoft has been doing ok the past few years. Consider ghost recon wildlands, watchdogs2, assassins creed syndicate and origins, and a few other titles. All of these games when shown at e3 looked about the same as the official release
Absolutely. Let's just hope they keep it up, right?
Patrick Anderson I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think ubisoft is the only trustworthy company out their, no lootboxes, games seem to have heart into them, and they graphics look good.
Well, they've been doing some pretty shady stuff in their past, but they seem to have cleaned up their act lately. Good on them.
Patrick Anderson Ubisoft has promised not to make misleading trailers and stuff anymore.
Other than the saturation, which can be changed in post, its pretty much the same. The retail lighting looks better in my opinion even thought time of day is different
Seriously, the obsession some people have with digging out something or the other to shit on games with is ridiculous these days. Just enjoy the damn game. If it's noticeably shit then it'll come up in the reviews. Don't need a "Spot the difference" style video to cover it.
The removal of half the objects, decals and effects does not look "pretty much the same". Pre-release looks like an alive and dynamic world, retail looks like a rigid and empty video game world. Don't let your eyes be fooled by the higher quality of the retail capture.
SgtTeeh buddy they look the same
Even if you don't have eyes, the video tells you that many objects have disappeared and thus do not look the same. If you do have eyes it is extremely easy to notice that a lot is missing from the retail, even if the resolution and textures are better (due to the way it is captured, not due to the quality of the graphics).
You can edit your picture style on your HD TV , you can add more saturation level or color level at your TV
Personally, I like the more realistic feel, but the AI is killing me. The companions just keep getting in the way
NiceCody its better imo not using any companions at all
NiceCody I wish every game has an option where your companions die permanently
NiceCody I agree, it feel’s like a damn Bethesda game
So far, I never use every single one of my companion..
They can't drive on the road for shit, they constantly repeat the same damn phrases... Hell I often go into battle or to liberate places alone simply because the AI get in the way or kill each other on accident lol. I love this game, and it looks great, but you're right. The AI could use a patch or two.
Im going crazy or de Retail looks waaaaaaay better? Good Job Ubi o/
Thiego Trajano fr I thought I was the only one
Thiego Trajano better but not realistic
Besides the bus part and no dead guy on the tractor and no opened gate the bus on e3 was way better more details stuff and blood and gravity the dead guy next to the tractor looked way better and the opened gate made more sense
TheCodPro, Yes, but they needed to get rid of it for obvious reasons.
Yeah, I know that Ubisoft is aware they downgrade because they addressed it before and they are able to make games better in animation than actually playing it
your a super underrated TH-camr and make quality content keep up the great work!
I couldn't even liberate Falls End... They freed themselves since I didn't immediately go there when it was available.
28RLiMod haha dude same here! I was so pissed because I really wanted to take my time in the region and work my way there but nope the game basically punished you for savoring the experience!
This happened to me in Jacob's region. I don't even know what happens if you find the whitetail's yourself.
I think it makes the world dynamic. It also promotes playing the game multiple times differently. The other side of this coin is games like Fallout 4. You have absolute freedom to explore at your leisure, but you're supposed to be looking for your missing son. Oh well, he'll probably be fine... Time to go collect baseballs cards or Nuka-Colas.
in the demo or real game?
Stalwart Vanguard What?
Nice to see Ubisoft not really downgrading its games anymore
Joshua redfern did you watch the same vid i did ?
They stopped it since 2015. Everyone who's saying otherwise is just nitpicking some minor stuff like "They've moved a texture by 2 pixels"
HeavySandvichGuy1 thats false.
That's true. They've even said it in 2015, that they will start showing the actual games now, and if you'll see it, it won't be downgraded
You should've seen Ghost Recon Wildlands. Retail game actually looks better than the E3 showcase
Honestly, the retail release looks considerably better in a lot of ways. The only thing I really miss from the E3 vids are the little details like the burning cars, flags waving, atmospheric placement of bodies, trash, and debris. But the way it affected performance, I'm glad they took them out. Oh well, in a year or two, we'll have the next generation of consoles, and performance will grow by leaps and bound. When it comes time to get a surgical implant to log in to the matrix, I'll be one of the first in line.
You can get next gen console performance on pcs now. So I'm already enjoying it. 😀😀
So its fine for video games to market their game with all these unattainable atmospheric graphical details and claim it is in-game footage, and subsequently take them out for release for performance reasons? Surely that is still false advertising. Don't show what you can't deliver.
Retail only looks better because the capture is done directly from a 1440p game client, the pre-release is captured from a compressed TH-cam video.
woo wee PS5 And XBOX 2 or Xbox 2.0
wouldnt have this performance issue on pc
it's just that they prefer quantity over quality, there's no reason to curb the quality of their game. If far cry 5 weather, at least it rains and reflects like gta v is great. not to mention their Ragdoll physics is bad in every game. I can give it a score of 4/10.
Game turned out surprisingly good and without any pre release tricks in my opinion. Anything they changed had a purpose, and was minor. Now if they could just fix the AI it would be a 10/10 lol.
Walther Penne, shhhh. Just let me have my fantasy.
@Walther Penne Wow, you must be really fun to talk to...
These Direct Comparison videos are great! Keep them up!
2:00 you could fool me and say that was a real life pic with a lesser quality camera
Overall i'm quite impressed by the level of honesty Far Cry 5's E3 presentation turned out to have, they had to make sacrifices to for performance and they did add some stuff that was purely so it would look impressive. But i'm happy that Ubisoft is turning away from the level of trickery that the Watch Dogs presentation had.
I love how this game took the rural american vibe and turned it to 11.. More guns, hunting, fishing and over the top stunts than you can shake a stick at. Great game.
That is an interesting idea - I like that idea of having your "Guns for Hire" interacting in the post mission cut scene with the locals - I think that is very effective. Even more so if the person you have as a guns for hire results in a different person being in the cutscenes.
I just had another idea. The shop people are scattered all over right, well how about the 1st time you fish you have to go speak to one of the shop guys and they have an actual personality and they basically teach you how to fish, and also comment if you get an especially large or small fish.
Likewise if you buy say Incendiary ammo for the first time they can send you to a particular seller on the map and get them to explain it to you.
I think integrating the shop people into the missions and tutorials and giving them more personality would be useful.
Ambient occlusion seems to have been toned down (or removed even). The contrast and saturation seems to be toned down as well, but that's fine. You can tune your TV itself to look somehow similar to the E3 demo.
Overall, it's nice to see that it wasn't heavily downgraded.
I like how when im wandering around, Boomer seems to stay on screen but out of my reticle
I like the E3 version more actually. I still remember when Ubisoft announced Far Cry 5 with their short teaser trailers last year. The game had a 'creepy' vibe back then.
What a beautiful end screen, Nick. Kidding. It's good to see how you improve past time.
Congrats!
I subbed great vid!
Elopez 01 cool! Glad you liked it!
Great content man!!! Unbelievably awesome! Keep it up!!
You should have more subs. Your videos are nice
I played through the entire game twice and didn't notice there was no rain. I was too busy having fun with it. crazy how things just slip past you if you're not paying attention
Hmmm the Retail looks much better in some cases tbh.
E3 - your instagram photo, Retail - your tagged photo
Kinda surprised to find people in the comments that think the difference is insignificant. I feel like people are mislead by the retail being sharper because it is directly captured footage instead of captured of TH-cam like the pre-release. Just the amount of detail, objects and effects that have been removed still make the retail a misleading downgrade from the pre-release if you ask me. The world looks empty, while at first it looked very detailed and alive.
Exactly, and I tried to emphasize this many times, but it's difficult when you see one slightly blurry image compared to a high resolution 1440p capture of PC footage.
Surprised Ubisoft only posted trailer content for this game at 1080p. Would've liked the higher bitrate to make better comparisons.
Agreed. Going through the comments "woah! the final looks way better" lolwut? While I will concede that 'this time' (FC5) the "downgrade" wasn't as bad as it's been but to say it looks better? No way. So much detail gone. Also, the world seems more fleshed out and the situations with the hostages look more interesting (in the pre-release) because everything is set up like a scene. In the actual game, every encounter is just like every encounter before and it all just looks the same over and over and over. The hand-made pre-release content looks much more interesting and diverse. On the positive side, the game released rather well optimized (codephrase for: took out tons of details that slow games down but would have otherwise made it look amazing) so it did run well. If only there was a graphics setting that would retain the maximum details for those with the appropriate hardware. Let's just call this mode 'maximum' and that would only be the top most option with several other options with less details and more performance. Who'd have thought of something so obscure in a computer game though, yeesh? smh
@@tehbigshow But the change is still vastly small compared to what we saw with Rainbow Six.
In falls end, it seems like props and npc were moved to the area in front of the church to let the viewer see more of the charectors associated with that area for the demo. They probably also added more detail to that specific scene for the demo.
Also here's a fun fact: All the cutscenes are in engine, rendered real time
I can’t wait till games look like today’s pre-released games in the full version!
Walther holy shit dude, get a fucking life
Walther Penne okay DUDE! lol
That might happen when sony and microsoft either make consoles with enough power (not use 5-year-old tech) or consoles disappear completely
You just earned a sub, you make quality content and definitely deserve more subs
This is actually a pleasant surprise that the game isn't downgraded so much from the E3 presentation, like most of Ubisoft's previous games. Looks like they have finally decided enough was, enough. Hopefully this'll mean they have stopped their pointless scam and will start presenting the retail version of the game at E3.
Betelgeuse didn't ubisoft only downgrade watch dogs and r6?
They've said in 2015, that they will stop doing that
Betelgeuse stop defending them.they still havent learned it. Its a downgrade.
thamonkaface999 only reason they have to is cause consoles can’t handle it.
Adomaster123 thats for sure.but why they also remove those details for pc too? because they are lazy
The way I see it regarding props is that the retail is designed for an environment you can pass through and play again without feeling off. Meanwhile the E3 demo was designed to build atmosphere and enhance story telling for the demo.
Retail is much better... Although... I wish there way a way to keep the E3 demo props and such if you have a more capable system for it.
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I honestly would prefer performance over graphics. either way the game looks amazing but the pre launch footage does look quite blurry and during some gameplay quite laggy as well. I'm all for pushing graphics to look better, but not at the cost of performance.
Wow, this video did blow me away! I always love comparson of (pc) games video's but never did i see one that shows it so well and specially so long! You clearly did do your best to put these 2 images beside each other, with so mch footages!
To answer your question, nearly always the pre-release footage of a game looks much much better but this time i have to say the release version is much sharper! Only the pre- has more details here and there, but that they always have.
again, great video! Will watch some more of you!
Leon
Ubisoft next time, try Ubiharder
I'm surprised anyone expected the retail final build to look like pre-release. Lest we forget, that pre-release video had the game made to look like that for marketing purposes. Devs often do this where they take a level, and make it "pretty" in order to make the gameplay look more fun. Hence why that tractor was static and there was more stuff in the town. No doubt they ONLY did that for THAT particular section and part of the game. We were never shown other parts, and by the time trailers closer to release date came out, they were already showing the retail version's graphics.
I am totally fine with the look of retail farcry 5. Nice visuals and smoother gameplay on Ultra Settings than i had with Farcry 4 on the same rig.
I have more issues with gameplay, somehow i have no bonding to my character, as he/she does not speak, like Ajay in FC4 or Jason in FC3 . So the storyline feels very flat to me, i feel like a visitor, a watchman, not a part of it. And i am missing some gameplay mechanics or feelings wich i can not even point to. There are some very good additions but i feel like some things are missing. I just dont know what it is but it feels flat sometimes.
Well that significantly more reasonable than what I initially thought!
Nicely done! Video game studios need to keep this up.
Listen devs, some of us have machines in the top 10% who would love every shiny thing you make. Give us the options. My 1070 isn't breaking a sweat in 1080p here.
Looks like they cranked the saturation up to 10 in the e3 demo, glad they decided to give it a more natural colour tone
Retail looks much better, I don’t know wtf you guys are seeing.
They are like: That pixel in the retail at 4:35 looks worse
I hate ubisoft
ABSOLUTE DOWNGRADE
Technically Retail version has worse graphics and world. The fact that it "looks better" to you is just a matter of taste.
Doppe then why you play one of the old Ubisoft games?
3:40
i'm sorry but have you seen this
Very well done on there part and great job on the video keep it up dude
Retail looks much better
imagine a world where all game developers care about their games as much as rockstar
Jacob Clement so... like not at all?
care about their games? hahahahahh don't make me laugh, rockstar only care about money but at lest their (still) know a good game = money
@@math3capanema sho g name one triple A studio that cares about their games and is less in it for the money than rockstar
The graphic is awsome.. but i need to delete some games to install this in my ps4.
Great vid man!
I'm playing FC5 on low settings on my potato so i don't even care about downgrade.
MegaMapper It isn’t downgraded though.
the more downgrade equals more fps
taking the bloom down actually makes the graphical details much more clear, it looks better in the actual release which is something pretty rare.
Pre-release looks better , probably they optimized some minor stuff which had little impact on graphics but big performance impact
(Im my opinion pre release looks like retail game with a few graphic mods so it looks noticeable better but not game changing)
It's like they boosted the saturation up and the contrast.
Nice video man
Removal of a few props and slight changes to the contrast are what we as consumers can live with, especialy in this case as they seem to have been done to improve the overall game. Compared to previous games they have released when the final version is worse than the pre-release, they have nailed this one! I hope they keep it up
I freaking love the game
Despite the minor changes and such Ubisoft have actually stayed quite true to e3 release and I feel like all the changes made are justified and fair play
Great video !!! Indeed Ubi really made an outstanding job with the openworld of FC5. I only have one grief. The player has no shadow, which leads me to feel that i am playing like a moving camera in this shadow-filled world. Why did they choose this route? You can even see it when let's say you ride an ATV with a companion. You can see their shadow as passengers but there is no one driving the vehicle :)) Does that mean you are actually a vampire ?? hmmm
I had an ad with a scary af face before this video
Road textures are better.
All the farcry games have great music. Some of its trippy or far out, some is just smooth guitar strings. Even the tribal beats they made for primal was atmospheric.
Serious question why do company’s boost the games looks but when it’s finally out it’s totally different why can’t they leave it like the E3 reveal
Kronixs_93 the gameplay at E3 is what PCs can handle only but not consoles, so it looks much better, they downgrade the game so people on console will be able to run it so more people will buy which equals to more sales
Because they might decide that they prefer different visual style. Or maybe listen to opinions of fans. Same thing happened to Witcher 3.
Sometimes the pre release videos are just animations kind of movies to promote games.
Mert
its not so much of a graphical difference, they look the same, but the lightning/color has been changed, they deleted some objects and actually re did the whole area so it looks more simplier/lazier. i dont think the e3 version would make consoles have problems to run the game because "its not strong enough".
the gap there is not so much that it would cause a problem.
well if youre speaking of it in general, that might be true that they ran it on PC and had to tone it down for console releases. but then that doesnt answer why they even did it. its more like they wanted to showcase the game first as interesting as possible (graphical wise) but then blantantly lie about it. because thats just their politics of selling.
You are very detailed and precise..excellent
I never got to liberate falls end !!! Wtf explain that shit
Anthony Sodano It should be a mission?
The deal is if you get to a certain point in John's region without doing that mission you don't get to, since John needs it for another mission. I'm not 100% but I think it happens if you get to resistance level 3, prior to that you should have no problem. As far as I know it's the only one like that. Btw I'm on my second playthrough and it's honestly worthwhile, I would consider finishing and starting over if I were you. Start out in a different area first, maybe even up the difficulty! I actually prefer playing on hard.
Falls End is a location that's necessary for a fixed story point. So if you didn't go liberate the town before it was required for the story progression it basically liberates itself
Well the mission says urgent so if you didn't do it right away you are shit out of luck. Don't blame the game for you being shit.
First of all chill the fuck out, whether or not you want to admit it there's alot of side activities to be completed and plenty of space to explore, just because it was "urgent" and they got sidetracked doesn't mean they're shit at the game because they actually wanted to enjoy the game's content without being rushed through the main missions.
Pre release versions of the game like this are made to make the game look super good as it usually is only rendering one area for the E3 showcase, in this case falls end
Kinda lame we couldn't get that American flag baseball bat
Myles F i believe it’s one of the aluminum bat skins
Noah Meyer yup!
Noah Meyer I looked but the closest thing is the French flag one
Myles F it’s supposed to be an American flag skin believe it or not
You can get it in the shop
Great video dude. I think the E3 demo looks more pleasing
retail skybox sucks
Wicked. Music it's a different time of day .....
nahh it looks like 720p
RedTipAlpha the skybox in far cry 5 never changes. The clouds never move
it's still a different time of day, with different lighting to everything you know?
Hands down the best looking Ubsioft game till date
We all know that ubishit downgrades
i bet u didn't play the game yet
Eh I mean yeah, stuff like Rainbow Six Siege is alot different than retail.
you must know that they downgrade so you can have a better chance of playing this game with an acceptable fps
true that
ProGTA Vids yeah I know I’ve been trying to point that out to everyone for so long now
Now this is what i love to see, E3/beta version and retail version.
Pre release is better
Agapi Xristina Grypaiou but retail looks more realistic
ZombieRuxx retail looks choppy though and it lacks detail
true i can agree with both of that ^^
i like games more colorful too
Are you blindboi
I surprised with what they did. This is what developers should do and use the full power of consoles and pc.
This is sad the pre release looks a lot better imo
Edit: i just really like it with more color than browned out like the final version is.
noah hickoff the retail is a lot more realistic looking tho. Maybe not as pleasantl
Kenzio DG i agree but i like the more colorful look, sorta like how farcry 3 had
Pre release version is hurting my eye too much saturation
Time to get reshade then. If you're on console though, deal with it. The demo builds probably ran like shite on the consoles.
noah hickoff Just go to the settings on your TV and you can "fix" most of that.
In my opinion they both look very nice and detailed.
And this is why Ubisoft cannot make games like Witcher 3
HA-R00N FA-HA different company tho
HA-R00N FA-HA nothing against W3 i love it so much. But that game also received significant downgrade as it was running on a powerful PC build when first shown off. Even the boxart for W3 was misleading as the game looked nothing like that on console.
bruh Witcher had a pretty big downgrade
ですLoli Hunter EXACTLY!👌👌
Beyond what everyone else said just very different games as a whole and shouldn't even be compared like that
Yes, it is true that the more exaggerated bloom, color saturation, lighting placement, motion blur and thickness of foliage in the pre-release build lends the game a unique sense of environmental vibrancy. It's almost whimsical-like and gives things a BioShock Infinite look. However, I'm among those glad that they dialed back on those exaggerated features in the final build. The more natural level of color saturation and lighting placement gives FC5 a more photo realistic quality in most instances as compared to pre-release. While the FC Series often asks players to suspend their disbelief, I've always found immersion in the series more enjoyable when the environment has a more realistic feel.
Whether you like the changes or not, you can't be surprised that Ubisoft would change or modify the textures post release. Its their MO
im actually really impressed. it holds up quite freaking well, which seems to be fairly uncommon now-a-days. much different from my old most anticipated and biggest let-down, The Division.
I can tell you this much...
Playing it on a 75" 4K TV with HDR using my gaming laptop.....
IT LOOKS INCREDIBLE. It's the most detailed and beautiful game I have ever played in my life.
CrashJack799 you can do 1080p ultra 30fps+ i use i5 and gtx 1050 4gb(laptop) and i get 40fps on ultra settings
Remember, any downgrade its cause the devs did not have the time to optimize the graphics.
Looking at Rockstar and looking back at Ubisoft trailer
The game still looks absolutely beautiful
As someone who played this on ultra in 1440p with a 1080ti and an i7 7700k @ 4.5ghz I'm glad they toned it down. This game is a BEAST to run and easily 100% maxed out my card. Temps were stable but FPS drops were frequent at max resolution. The game is gorgeous but I can see why they removed some of the clutter.
Late to the party, but here's my theory: the decor was made less colorfull for the sake of gameplay. Items to interact with (lootboxes, powerswitches etc.) are all conveniently yellow, and stuff that'll blow up if you shoot it is red. The pre-release version would've made it much harder to pinpoint these items.
any one of the version could have worked. but the retail looks more refined and amazing
Wow! Absolutely no downgrade! Im impressed
Walther Penne no its just minor style change. Use reshade and you can get very close to e3 version
A bit more clutter would have been nice in the retail, but I most definitely like the changes color.
Man games are so much more exciting on reveal or in theory, once you're a few hours in and understand the systems at work they kinda lose their magic.
Honestly, to avoid disappointing people, I feel like they should start development with more realistic expectations, showcase the game, then start adding in more props, effects, and details until they know the hardware can't handle more.
It's less aggressive now than it used to be, but it's still an issue, where games are showcased with higher promise than what was realistically possible or tested. When you have to downgrade/change things after you already showed what was done, you're changing the atmosphere and visual story telling of your game, that people were expecting.
Doom 2016 is a great example of showing something you know is possible, then improving aspects after the demo was showcased.
First time that we see a graphics upgrade in the final build in a Ubisoft game
The clip from fall end has you go around from the backside of the town.
And you can straight out tell e3 just made it better looking down that path.
When in retail youll have to circle around the whole town to get there.
So players wouldn't naturally woukd not make that route.
Players woukd go down the streets where there's a gas truck with people on roof tops or a lady about to be beat to death.
I thing they switch the focus points.
Not downgraded.
Because you spawn in the middle of the map youll wanna put the better interest on the other side of town.
Lolol the Ai Was complaining that she had no shot from up there,man thats cool for some reason.
I’m so glad I know the difference in a game that I don’t own and have never played. Now I know.
First time in forever we see a graphics upgrade
Ubisoft has gotten better with their advertising after the WatchDogs and Siege era so honestly no surprise when the retail is very close.
Hey dude you make some great videos! *subscribed* i dig the intro vid on your page
Honestly, it mostly just looks like aesthetic changes rather than huge cuts like previous Ubisoft games had.