I literally got into an argument with my high school British literature teacher about mermaids and sirens being different in front of my whole class. Printed out material for her the next day highlighting all the lines where it explained they weren't mermaids but half birds. Let's just say she wasn't happy with me at all. I stood my ground though haha
In my own research I did years ago. In Odyssey, when the sailors survived the encounter, the sirens were doomed to die as some kind of mystical result. So they shed their wings and took the tails of fishes to survive. It’s not explained of how they did it, they just did. Merpeople mythology is older; for the -maids would sit on the rocks while combing their hair and singing. Nearby sailors with jump overboard trying to reach them only to drown from the undertow. Mermen did the same thing to selling to women.
@Black-And-WhiteWorldview88 Sailing ⛵ women I meant. SAILING. It’s one of those errors when speaking into ur phone, and if I edit to correct, I’ll lose the love emoji.
So in the past Mermaids were actually considered vicious and predatory in their own right. In japan mermaids were hunted so that people of great influence could eat their flesh and gain immortality. In Hans Christian Andersen's original story of the little mermaid, the mermaid had green skin and fish eyes and could live for up to 300 years, she also sought the affections of Eric not because of love but because of a selfish desire to be able to walk on land and sea and the only way for her to do that would be to win his heart, then kill him so that she would be neither human nor mermaid full time. In some stories it was said that a Mermaid's song could call storms which considering that in Greek myth they are descended from Triton who was the son of Poseidon, doesn't surprise me. The confusion that actually started the depiction of a Siren being half fish half woman actually came from the French who before being christianized were worshippers of many Gods and Goddesses one of which was a water Goddess named Melusine. She was depicted as a crowned woman with long flowing hair and legs that were actually two elongated fish tails (now currently shown on the Starbucks logo which people seem to ignore for some reason) and was known for her operatic vocals which further led to the now modern misconception of the depiction of a Siren.
Bro Islam is a whole other thing 😂 here there's no mermaid but ghouls , like "jinns" who pretend to have a nice voice but they never show their appearance, sometimes if u unlucky u could see them floating on top of the water , they also could have an extremely terrifying voice , they're highly dangerous so you're absolutely not supposed to play on the beach at night cuz some of them doesn't have to be deep in the ocean , night is enough for them
In spanish the confusion is worse, because both words are translated to Sirena (singular) and Sirenas (plural) altough there is a spanish word for «mermaid/s» which is *Nereida/s" but no one uses it, because very few people know that the word exists.
Yes, the *Nereidas* are the nymphs of the water/sea/ocean, and apparently the word is the "correct" translation of Mermaid, because, to be fair, a proper translation would be *Mermedia,* but that word doesn't exists in spanish, so.
The Book Sea of Monsters by Rick Riordan from the Percy Jackson Series does a good job depicting the Sirens. And I actually like to go by that interpretation because I know the author did his research. The Sirens are Bird Women in his book, but the way he depicts the Siren Song is the most unique and really brings together many different interpretations. The Siren Song reveals to the listener their deepest desire, and that’s how it draws people to the Sirens. They swim toward the desire the song makes them see. So, in essence, the victims that hear the Siren Song never see the Siren until it’s too late. Instead, they hallucinate their deepest desire and chase after it.
I think the problem also stems from lack of consistency with the Sirens. In most of the pictures the sirens have no wings and look like regular maiden's lost at sea from a shipwreck or just because they are Amazons who live on an island, etc. Because there's not a lot of consistency with the Sirens, it only makes sense that Sirens became more of an idea of a female temptress of "some" kind. Someone can easily make a joke and say well hey what about flying fish? LOL but yeah I think lack of consistency with how they look played a huge part in either the confusion or maybe just the new adaptation.
Also, some story/theory said that sirens have their appearance literally. But on the other hand, some story/theory also said that the sailor can look siren's appearance only as their illusion. But in "reality", they actually can only hear their voice calling from the sea.
Have you seen sauce.90 videos? The government went on his boat doing something shady when he had videos of Sirens. I’ve been listening to people from Jamaica, Trinidad, Zimbabwe just to name a few on here telling stories about their local ones and what the past generations have told them. Some of the comments telling of other encounters with mermaids and sirens that sound amazing and horrifying at the same time.
People wouldn't be thinking mermaids are kind and gentle if they seen the documentary mermaids the body found. Which was very entertaining even though its a hoax documentary. The mermaids on there was anything but sweet and gentle. I loved every second of it lol they need to make it into a full series.
Harpies don't sing, they're horrible carrion bird-like beings who were the embodiment of storm winds, and they were part of the punishment of King Phineus of Thrace, who used his foresight to betray the gods. Zeus set him alone on an island with a table that would fill with delicious food, only for the harpies to snatch it up and devour it, or smash it about and dirty it until it was inedible. Sirens are beautiful, and sing alluring songs to force sailors to dash themselves upon their rocks, and get conflated with mermaids.
Thankyouthankyouthankyou for posting this video explaining the differences between the two! I get so annoyed when people give mermaids siren qualities or say that sirens are half-fish people.
Wow,so much differences between sirens n mermaid but really interesting n intimidating video😯😉😊What difference about harpy n siren n more creatures🤨🤔Great job making the video,editor💕👏😎
I can remember that I watched one of the cartoons of Axterix and Obelix where Cesar gives 12 tasks that could be only done by gods. One of them was the challenge of facing enchantresses who lived in a separate island and when they rowed their boats near they could hear them sing and got enchanted. At the end they manage to escape them. Wow. I watched this video today and this morning I happened to watch this cartoon again on TV. 😅 What a beautiful coincidence Also my teacher said that in ICE AGE there are demon fish who lure Diego, Manny and Sid in and they deceit them with images and voices of their loved ones or things but in reality they are evil fish. My sir said that that's why mermaids are thought to be half human and half fish. But yes. There are male mermaids too. What you say make a lot sense. Aren't there any male sirens???? I hate when people say sirens (mermaids) got a half women body because they are beautiful, deceitful and lure men. No one talks of male sirens. Wonder if that is because these stories are more associated with sailors ofcourse men who sail the see which is rarely done by women. But don't they produce babies? 😅 I used to wonder as a kid 😂😂😂 th-cam.com/video/vsotCuGVi6k/w-d-xo.html Check this out. From 21:51 onwards
This was a really nice video, thank you. Could you do something similar on the differences between fairies, faes, and nymphs? I feel like they get jumbled up a lot
Good question. :) But there are differences: Sirens have the upper body of a woman, and a lower body of a bird. Harpies are depicted as the whole body of a bird and just the woman head. And of course the other characteristics doesn't exist in harpies: like beautiful voices and seductive powers.
@@MythosTheHistorian From my looking. Harpy are head and torso of a woman with the rest, wings, legs and tails of birds, but we're ugly, hideous features. Sirens were more like angels. They were half human half bird, but had 2 arms and bird wings on their backs or something, but still bird legs. No description on features. May be wrong.
For those who don’t know: Merfolk are fierce and ugly creatures with the upper body of humans and the tail of a fish to replace their legs. They have scaled skin, sharp teeth, sharp claws, and are naturally talented with weaponry. Female merfolk are called mermaids, male merfolk are called mermen. They swim at high speeds and breath only underwater. Siren are lustful and beautiful creatures with the body of a bird, and head of a human. They’re primarily female, though in some myths, male ones exist. They have enchanting songs that lure and hypnotise others. They are seen as performers and musicians. Harpies are wrathful creatures with the head of an ugly woman, and the rest of the body of a woman, with sharp claws and bird wings on their backs. They have deadly screeches and a master swoopers, under the control of Zeus. They tend to be angry majority of the time, representing their undying wrath.
@@MythosTheHistorian there’s no original myth in Greek mythology please make that clear on future videos .there are many myths about sirens being fish like creatures.
Correct, Bigg Shepp. Sirens are identified in 1 Enoch (Book of Enoch). The Ethiopian Church still have 1 Enoch canonized in their Bible. 🇪🇹 Even The New Testament book of Jude chapter 1 verses 14-15 quotes directly from The Book of Enoch chapter 1 verse 9. The rest of this Story Puzzle is out there now for all to read and discover!
I also wanted to mention there are mermaids in African folklore too not just Asian and European. There are also mermen too which need more love. They’re also really interesting. There may be more cultures as well but these are the only 3 I personally know. Good video though, it seems that somewhere down the line mermaids and sirens have become somewhat of a hybrid.
I read a sirens way of mating is by biting their mates neck being they are supposed to produce something that impregnates them , they aren’t intentionally killing sailors but falling in love with them and trying to bring them to mate forgetting they can’t live under water and dying and eating them in the process of trying to mate /smacking them with their tail and such idk just my take their purpose is to bring company to lonely sailors I don’t believe the one where they are half bird bc it wouldn’t make sense how they would go after sailors and not land people If they were half bird. They failed to protect Persephone so she turned them into “monster” it’s kind of sad
Did anyone else ever see that video of the archeologist who found the skeletons of the two very tall humanoid beings entertained and they each had 3 fingers on their hands? He believed he had discovered proof of sirens and then all that info just disappeared. Also, mythological sirens in ancient times were also considered giant owl like creatures with woman's faces.
Okay, when Sirens are more Bird/Women and not Fish/Women then we need the next video which tells the difference between Harpies and Sirens. Both would be a mixed between human and birds.
From the greek myth sirens is a bird with human head, if I remembered correctly they are a god and a goddess who got cursed, while harpies is a beast in a form resembling a women with bird features they have wings instead of hands and a claws instead of feet, they are a type of mythical beast, and yes siren have their males counterparts but harpies exclusively only female.
Half-bird is the pre-7th century depiction of sirens similar to harpies. Half- fish is the post-7th century depiction of sirens which is why the words siren and mermaid are interchangeable. When a mermaid sings she is using her siren call which is also know as her siren song.
Mermaids are aquatic, vampires are not. Also, vampires tend to shapeshift as well as not being able to cross water or places they have not been invited too. Faeries are much more sinister, and less bug like than pixies.
I just depends on the culture.. both sirens and mermaids have been in multiple cultures all over the world and they just so happened to mix as cultures mixed. In some cultures Sirens really are aquatic and other times winged, while in some cultures sirens aren’t winged or aquatic
Sirens are the temptations of human beings. Homer referred to them in odyssey. One should have the power of self control in order to resist their calls
I knew the difference, but I read both were deadly. While sirens used voice and beauty to lure enthralled sailors to their deaths upon the rocks causing shipwrecks. Then killing any who survived drowning, on land. Mermaids were said to deliberately drown sailors who were enchanted by their beauty and lured into their "loving" embraces (which were thought to be exceptionally strong). Neither of those choices is ideal! Lol!😄😄😄 * Although I've always thought mermaids were the cuter of the two.😉
Anyone who has served in the ministry of deliverance and done spiritual warfare against these entities or deliverd souls from demonic oppression and possession knows that in the spiritual realm the title "Siren" is associated with ALL DEMONIC ENTITIES OF A FEMALE NATURE PERIOD! There are sea sirens, forest sirens, space sirens, ect! For example the real God of the Roman Catholic Church is a space siren, a fallen angel, who's actual name is Mary, but she is not the mother of Jesus. Her title's are: The Queen or Heaven because she rules the 2nd Heaven Satanic kingdom in space above our atmosphere, The Holy Mother, Fatima, The ever Virgin, the black virgin of Monzerat, ect. She is the source behind Roman Catholic blood magic, and she is the comander of the Archangels of the sacred heart of christ in the Catholic church. The most powerful sea siren is: The Queen of the Coast, aka Mami Waata, I forgot what her first name is. She is a hybrid entity. A mermaid. She rules the Atlantic Ocean Satanic Kingdom. Her powers are black magic which she gives to her human agents. There is also a Queen of the Indian Ocean Satanic kingdom. When God spoke his judgment against the Watcher's the 200 Angels who trespassed upon the earth and took human wives, he also spoke judgment against their wives condemning them to become Sirens of the sea, because they were from the earth and there was already space sirens. Solomon had contact with numerous demonic entities and even interviewed many of them and the female ones were all space sirens from above! So again what I am saying is that a Mermaid is a Siren, just a siren of the sea! All female evil spirits aka demons are Sirens. The only difference is what Satanic kingdom they are from and what Principality demon they answer to! The 2 that I gave themselves are ruling Principalities of their own Kingdoms in space and in the sea! Theologians and academics only know the mythology surrounding these entities but those of us who have actually dealt with these demonic beings face to face as they possessed human beings know who and what they are. To us there is no difference between them. All we know is that they are evil and we cast them out!
I've always ask myself the difference. Because in french Sirens and Mermaids were both label under the same names ! Sirens. It's only later reading old version of Greeks mythology that I've actually learn that the Greek sirens had actually wings in pottery painting. And was offen mistaken for Harpys. Maybe you should explain next time. The difference between Harpy and Sirens ? Just an idea.
I hate water so much. I would never be enticed by a mermaid, because I wouldn't be near the shore to begin with. However, as an avian enthusiast, I would definitely try and catch a siren. For educational purposes, of course ;)
I believe both .. I believe some have truly fell in love with a sailor and they took advantage of her for money, sold her.. and then that was a rippling effect causing war between the woman of the sea and sailors
Sirens actually don’t have a physical depiction. The bird women are Harpies. When sirens were first told about they were just haunting female voices from the sea. Wasn’t till five hundred years after Homer wrote about them, they were drawn/mixed with Harpies. And a few more hundred years after they were mixed with mermaids and other deities! 👍🏻
Harpies have the full body of birds, and are only depicted as female. They represent wrath and have deathly screeches. Sirens are mostly depicted as women, though some are men, and they only have the wings and legs of birds, as well as enchanting and beautiful voices.
2:56 - In the original story that image is depicting, Sirens primarily used their great knowledge, rather than their singing itself or their beauty. Especially not their beauty, since at the time we see through found pottery, that they were literally a completely anatomical bird, with just the head of a beautiful woman lol. Later on the stories changed a lot though, yea. I prefer the original concept. More interesting. 3:42 - Yea that's the stuff!
Sirens are depicted with beautiful humanoid bodies, apart from their wings and bird legs. Harpies are displayed at 3:42, I can see how you got mixed up
@@Empyrxus - No no. The original concept that we find of sirens, are the birds at 3:42. That is literally THE story that they are from, so those are sirens (that's not what harpies look like anyway). We know this from pottery at the time (a full bird, just with the head of a woman, OR a man was seemingly actually more common. The story never specified what sirens look like, so we just go off of the pottery depictions). It's strongly suspected that they were essentially very much modelled after the Egyptian ba-bird (appearance-wise). LATER, they started to be depicted as just having the wings and feet of birds (still not a harpy!). Then some time after that the Christians came along and then it became a mermaid for some reason. There's also art at the time of this transitionary period where the sirens are like, between a mermaid and a bird, or both are depicted in the same art.
@@Siberius- Yes! That is true! In earlier stories, sirens were originally fully bird bodies, though in some stories they had the torso of a human as well. Later, the humanoid head and body became much more popular, so I typically use that version. I dunno why Christians thought they were merfolk 😭 But then, what are harpies?
@@Empyrxus - Yea depends on the timeframe. The mermaid thing is bizarre lol. Harpies have their own (I'm sure very traumatic and unfair) mythology. I think there's only 3 of them, "Aellopous, Celaeno, and Ocypete, daughters of Thaumas and Ozomene". But as far as appearance, sometimes (in ancient Greek times) they're depicted as just being winged women with (what they deem to be) ugly faces, but also often they were depicted as having the (unpleasing) face, whole torso and arms of a woman, but everything else was bird (wings, legs/feet, and hand talons). So they're more of a hybrid situation than sirens that are just a full-on bird, but with a human head.
0:10 Would be more acurate to say they "were" not. Enchantress is a negative name? It's funny how ancient greek mythology don't have mermaids but have mermans XD 4:18 Though mermaids have a better reputation, they can very well be deadly, both represents the dangers of the sea. And i think that calling sirens evil for killing peoples is a bit exagerrated.
I feel so weird to say this but when I was young I once encounter a bird who had human face Idk as a child if I was exaggerating things 😅 well I tried to search everywhere does a bird like this exits but found no result ...
In some story in Greek myth state they are singing of vast knowledges and experiences and this is what tempts men. In this sense they are not evil men are just nosey. lol The sirens sing almost all the time so they aren't purposely luring anyone, the men are just unlucky and cannot resist them. In Greek myth their body is mostly bird their looks are not always appealing as it is argued just how much of their body is woman. In some myth they have the head of a woman and body of a bird and others torso of a woman and lower half and wings of a bird (similar to harpies) but more often than not they were not very large or strong like a harpy would be (another thing sirens get confused with are harpies). So if someone crashes their ship in the rocky edges of the island they live on they could not really help them. Harpies are the ones who actually purposely terrorized people by their own will or the command of the gods. In one myth Sirens were given wings to help find Persephone by Demeter her mother and their song was them calling out to Persephone. Other myth it was actually a curse given by Demeter as the Sirens use to be Persephone's handmaidens and as punishment for allowing Persephone to be abducted and not finding her. Demeter turned the handmaiden into winged creatures. Demeter is notorious for not being very nice so this is also somewhat believable. So as you can see they are not as evil as people make them out to be.
Sirens are not myth. They are in The Book Of Enoch. God turned the women that seduced Lucifer and the other angels that fell into sirens as a punishment for their seductive treachery. They are also found in The Holy Bible in Septuagint coding as owls or ostriches. Wherever one translation says owls yet, another translation says owls in the exact same place, it is speaking of sirens!
Notea, respectfully~ tell your theory to the Ethiopian Church who still have 1 Enoch canonized in their Bible. 🇪🇹 Nothing in The Book of Enoch contradicts the 66 books of modern Scripture. On the contrary, the New Testament book of Jude chapter 1 verses 14-15 quotes directly from The Book of Enoch chapter 1 verse 9 and even gives authorship to Enoch the prophet. In summary, the Bible isn't going to quote from any other Book beside itself. It's pretty common knowledge that many Dead Sea Scroll books were taken out of today's Bible as we know it, if for no other reason then the sheer volume of text contained~ some just being repeat information. "They" had to condense things. Who wants to carry That gargantuan sized Book around!? But I digress.😉 God is an unlimited God not to be confined inside "our box" of understanding. The rest of this Story Puzzle is out there now for all to read and discover! 📖
Very wrong, Lucifer aka devil wasn't seduced by women. The dum dum wanted to be higher than God. Others fell due to women. But there's a thing hidden in Bible not all find, which is what came first. Devil is only a cherub, has anybody noticed the non princes don't end in el? Yes that name convention matters. Devil isn't even the oldest. Ppl tell these stories so wrong. If I asked who are oldest angels, nobody here could name em. But Bible doesn't explicit tell angel stories cuz those don't matter as much as other content. Also yes women who seduced angels got punished. Although if the angels did the taking in marriage,they get punished. Also back to what I first said, nothing sits higher than God, so if any space was above God, that's his personal space, nobody is sitting there, and obviously throne base is near a diff layer of heaven
That's so hilarious that it's literal celestial cosmic super beings and the woman is still going to take the blame 😂 what a horrible religion. Oh yeah the average mortal just charmed it it didn't charm them they're not to blame lol those poor fallen super beings being confronted by the most evil a woman 😂 woooooow
This is wrong though. Sirens were part bird until they lost a singing contest to the Muses. The Muses plucked their feathers to make themselves crowns and that’s how they fell into the ocean. Hera organized the contest. Read Pausanias. Homer isn’t the alpha and omega of Greek Mythology
While yes, their feathers were plucked to make crowns, they regrew. In regret, they flew to Aeaea. They weren’t plucked to the king of not existing, just so they would feel punished.
I believe Mermaids are real. 7 women witnessed seeing 1 swimming in our beautiful cave. One of the popular Cave we have on our island. These 7 women's are in their 80's & 90 of age now.
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I literally got into an argument with my high school British literature teacher about mermaids and sirens being different in front of my whole class. Printed out material for her the next day highlighting all the lines where it explained they weren't mermaids but half birds. Let's just say she wasn't happy with me at all. I stood my ground though haha
Good for you :) show her this video. :)
@@MythosTheHistorian oh goodness. That was about 12 years ago at this point. I’m probably the only one who remembers that altercation 😂
@@emmalarson Well done, on standing your ground. Sometimes it's hard, but you did the right thing.
@@jessicaswinbourn.320 thanks! I’m still proud of 15ish year old me 🤗
@@emmalarsonFind her and show her this video! 😂
In my own research I did years ago. In Odyssey, when the sailors survived the encounter, the sirens were doomed to die as some kind of mystical result. So they shed their wings and took the tails of fishes to survive. It’s not explained of how they did it, they just did. Merpeople mythology is older; for the -maids would sit on the rocks while combing their hair and singing. Nearby sailors with jump overboard trying to reach them only to drown from the undertow. Mermen did the same thing to selling to women.
This is like, the opposite of Zora to Rito, lol.
@Black-And-WhiteWorldview88 Sailing ⛵ women I meant. SAILING. It’s one of those errors when speaking into ur phone, and if I edit to correct, I’ll lose the love emoji.
The Odyssey was what I learned about mythology
So in the past Mermaids were actually considered vicious and predatory in their own right. In japan mermaids were hunted so that people of great influence could eat their flesh and gain immortality. In Hans Christian Andersen's original story of the little mermaid, the mermaid had green skin and fish eyes and could live for up to 300 years, she also sought the affections of Eric not because of love but because of a selfish desire to be able to walk on land and sea and the only way for her to do that would be to win his heart, then kill him so that she would be neither human nor mermaid full time. In some stories it was said that a Mermaid's song could call storms which considering that in Greek myth they are descended from Triton who was the son of Poseidon, doesn't surprise me.
The confusion that actually started the depiction of a Siren being half fish half woman actually came from the French who before being christianized were worshippers of many Gods and Goddesses one of which was a water Goddess named Melusine. She was depicted as a crowned woman with long flowing hair and legs that were actually two elongated fish tails (now currently shown on the Starbucks logo which people seem to ignore for some reason) and was known for her operatic vocals which further led to the now modern misconception of the depiction of a Siren.
damn!! I am enjoying my education today! thank you
Thank you for all this!
Bro Islam is a whole other thing 😂 here there's no mermaid but ghouls , like "jinns" who pretend to have a nice voice but they never show their appearance, sometimes if u unlucky u could see them floating on top of the water , they also could have an extremely terrifying voice , they're highly dangerous so you're absolutely not supposed to play on the beach at night cuz some of them doesn't have to be deep in the ocean , night is enough for them
Its nice that someone finaly make video about differences between sirens and mermaids :)
I was thinking the same thing. We can't just call mermaids sirens just because we like the name better
What about sirens and harpies
@@cynthiafarris1051 in italian there isn't a word for mermeid. They are the same
No ma’am sirens have wing like fins but they are not birds they are fish and mermaids are to there are more hybrids within their species
In spanish the confusion is worse, because both words are translated to Sirena (singular) and Sirenas (plural) altough there is a spanish word for «mermaid/s» which is *Nereida/s" but no one uses it, because very few people know that the word exists.
gracias hermano por este aclaracion
Yes, the *Nereidas* are the nymphs of the water/sea/ocean, and apparently the word is the "correct" translation of Mermaid, because, to be fair, a proper translation would be *Mermedia,* but that word doesn't exists in spanish, so.
@@tropicobkun121 De nada.
Same in Polish just there's no other word for mermaid even if you want to use difrend word for this two
@Black-and-WhiteWorldview "Syrena" for both
The Book Sea of Monsters by Rick Riordan from the Percy Jackson Series does a good job depicting the Sirens. And I actually like to go by that interpretation because I know the author did his research.
The Sirens are Bird Women in his book, but the way he depicts the Siren Song is the most unique and really brings together many different interpretations.
The Siren Song reveals to the listener their deepest desire, and that’s how it draws people to the Sirens. They swim toward the desire the song makes them see.
So, in essence, the victims that hear the Siren Song never see the Siren until it’s too late. Instead, they hallucinate their deepest desire and chase after it.
I think the problem also stems from lack of consistency with the Sirens. In most of the pictures the sirens have no wings and look like regular maiden's lost at sea from a shipwreck or just because they are Amazons who live on an island, etc. Because there's not a lot of consistency with the Sirens, it only makes sense that Sirens became more of an idea of a female temptress of "some" kind. Someone can easily make a joke and say well hey what about flying fish? LOL but yeah I think lack of consistency with how they look played a huge part in either the confusion or maybe just the new adaptation.
Also, some story/theory said that sirens have their appearance literally. But on the other hand, some story/theory also said that the sailor can look siren's appearance only as their illusion. But in "reality", they actually can only hear their voice calling from the sea.
Have you seen sauce.90 videos? The government went on his boat doing something shady when he had videos of Sirens. I’ve been listening to people from Jamaica, Trinidad, Zimbabwe just to name a few on here telling stories about their local ones and what the past generations have told them. Some of the comments telling of other encounters with mermaids and sirens that sound amazing and horrifying at the same time.
Well yes, it seems crazy they are superstitious but certain parts of world has these beings and Bible can explain it all
People wouldn't be thinking mermaids are kind and gentle if they seen the documentary mermaids the body found. Which was very entertaining even though its a hoax documentary. The mermaids on there was anything but sweet and gentle. I loved every second of it lol they need to make it into a full series.
I always like to think Sirens are like harpy mermaid hybrids.
Me too. In my head sirens are like the flying fish. They can swim in the water but also fly and catch their prey.
I always thought sirens were evil mermaids.
The Evolution is evil and we are a part of this 😂
I highly recommend Siren to everyone it's so great one of my favorite shows
What’s the difference between Sirens and Harpies? Both are bird-like but what are the major differences between the two creatures?
I guess harpies aren’t pretty and they screech and doesn’t have nice voice?
Harpies don't sing, they're horrible carrion bird-like beings who were the embodiment of storm winds, and they were part of the punishment of King Phineus of Thrace, who used his foresight to betray the gods. Zeus set him alone on an island with a table that would fill with delicious food, only for the harpies to snatch it up and devour it, or smash it about and dirty it until it was inedible. Sirens are beautiful, and sing alluring songs to force sailors to dash themselves upon their rocks, and get conflated with mermaids.
In Russia, they have the mythological "Sirin", which is very similar to the Greek Bird-Women Sirens.
Now we need Siren Vs Harpy comparisons video!!
Thankyouthankyouthankyou for posting this video explaining the differences between the two! I get so annoyed when people give mermaids siren qualities or say that sirens are half-fish people.
Wow,so much differences between sirens n mermaid but really interesting n intimidating video😯😉😊What difference about harpy n siren n more creatures🤨🤔Great job making the video,editor💕👏😎
I can remember that I watched one of the cartoons of Axterix and Obelix where Cesar gives 12 tasks that could be only done by gods. One of them was the challenge of facing enchantresses who lived in a separate island and when they rowed their boats near they could hear them sing and got enchanted. At the end they manage to escape them.
Wow. I watched this video today and this morning I happened to watch this cartoon again on TV. 😅 What a beautiful coincidence
Also my teacher said that in ICE AGE there are demon fish who lure Diego, Manny and Sid in and they deceit them with images and voices of their loved ones or things but in reality they are evil fish.
My sir said that that's why mermaids are thought to be half human and half fish. But yes. There are male mermaids too. What you say make a lot sense. Aren't there any male sirens???? I hate when people say sirens (mermaids) got a half women body because they are beautiful, deceitful and lure men. No one talks of male sirens. Wonder if that is because these stories are more associated with sailors ofcourse men who sail the see which is rarely done by women. But don't they produce babies? 😅 I used to wonder as a kid 😂😂😂
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Check this out. From 21:51 onwards
Lol. Good questions. As I am aware of the husband of the mermaid is named Triton, like the lizard :)
This was a really nice video, thank you. Could you do something similar on the differences between fairies, faes, and nymphs? I feel like they get jumbled up a lot
Thank you! Noted! But I think In August or September, because until the the schedule is full with other videos :)
Both sirens and mermaids are demonize creatures
What's the difference between a Siren and a Harpy then?
Good question. :) But there are differences: Sirens have the upper body of a woman, and a lower body of a bird. Harpies are depicted as the whole body of a bird and just the woman head. And of course the other characteristics doesn't exist in harpies: like beautiful voices and seductive powers.
Harpys sound as awful as they look and steal shiny objects
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From my looking. Harpy are head and torso of a woman with the rest, wings, legs and tails of birds, but we're ugly, hideous features.
Sirens were more like angels. They were half human half bird, but had 2 arms and bird wings on their backs or something, but still bird legs. No description on features.
May be wrong.
The differences is their looks. Sirens r beautiful while harpies r ugly.
Put into hilarious description: Female version of The Angry Bird.
Mermaid is a peaceful creature but siren brings violence and danger
Mermaids ain't peaceful, their oblivious to their lethalness
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Mermaids will flat out drown people......
They both are demons and are dangerous
@@davidaikswemin3027 tf…🤦♀️
For those who don’t know:
Merfolk are fierce and ugly creatures with the upper body of humans and the tail of a fish to replace their legs. They have scaled skin, sharp teeth, sharp claws, and are naturally talented with weaponry. Female merfolk are called mermaids, male merfolk are called mermen. They swim at high speeds and breath only underwater.
Siren are lustful and beautiful creatures with the body of a bird, and head of a human. They’re primarily female, though in some myths, male ones exist. They have enchanting songs that lure and hypnotise others. They are seen as performers and musicians.
Harpies are wrathful creatures with the head of an ugly woman, and the rest of the body of a woman, with sharp claws and bird wings on their backs. They have deadly screeches and a master swoopers, under the control of Zeus. They tend to be angry majority of the time, representing their undying wrath.
I have come to develop an affection for mermaids recently. Thank you, Lexie.
Good video & hopefully now people will understand the difference between them that didn't know before 👍🏻
thank you mate!
@@MythosTheHistorian 👍🏻 have a good week
@@MythosTheHistorian there’s no original myth in Greek mythology please make that clear on future videos .there are many myths about sirens being fish like creatures.
@@taliablackthorn4758Unfortunately, there is not. Sirens have always been depicted as avians.
Correct, Bigg Shepp. Sirens are identified in 1 Enoch (Book of Enoch). The Ethiopian Church still have 1 Enoch canonized in their Bible. 🇪🇹 Even The New Testament book of Jude chapter 1 verses 14-15 quotes directly from The Book of Enoch chapter 1 verse 9.
The rest of this Story Puzzle is out there now for all to read and discover!
I also wanted to mention there are mermaids in African folklore too not just Asian and European. There are also mermen too which need more love. They’re also really interesting. There may be more cultures as well but these are the only 3 I personally know. Good video though, it seems that somewhere down the line mermaids and sirens have become somewhat of a hybrid.
Yes they are. I spoke about them here: th-cam.com/video/K3NTuh3ctgs/w-d-xo.html
@@MythosTheHistorian Thank you, and thanks for replying as well.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!
I read a sirens way of mating is by biting their mates neck being they are supposed to produce something that impregnates them , they aren’t intentionally killing sailors but falling in love with them and trying to bring them to mate forgetting they can’t live under water and dying and eating them in the process of trying to mate /smacking them with their tail and such idk just my take their purpose is to bring company to lonely sailors I don’t believe the one where they are half bird bc it wouldn’t make sense how they would go after sailors and not land people If they were half bird.
They failed to protect Persephone so she turned them into “monster” it’s kind of sad
Did anyone else ever see that video of the archeologist who found the skeletons of the two very tall humanoid beings entertained and they each had 3 fingers on their hands? He believed he had discovered proof of sirens and then all that info just disappeared. Also, mythological sirens in ancient times were also considered giant owl like creatures with woman's faces.
Okay, when Sirens are more Bird/Women and not Fish/Women then we need the next video which tells the difference between Harpies and Sirens. Both would be a mixed between human and birds.
From the greek myth sirens is a bird with human head, if I remembered correctly they are a god and a goddess who got cursed, while harpies is a beast in a form resembling a women with bird features they have wings instead of hands and a claws instead of feet, they are a type of mythical beast, and yes siren have their males counterparts but harpies exclusively only female.
And fairies too
Very good report❤❤❤❤
Half-bird is the pre-7th century depiction of sirens similar to harpies. Half- fish is the post-7th century depiction of sirens which is why the words siren and mermaid are interchangeable. When a mermaid sings she is using her siren call which is also know as her siren song.
Mermaid vs vampires
Fairies vs pixies
Mermaids are aquatic, vampires are not. Also, vampires tend to shapeshift as well as not being able to cross water or places they have not been invited too.
Faeries are much more sinister, and less bug like than pixies.
I just depends on the culture.. both sirens and mermaids have been in multiple cultures all over the world and they just so happened to mix as cultures mixed. In some cultures Sirens really are aquatic and other times winged, while in some cultures sirens aren’t winged or aquatic
Interesting video 🤝
love it because it tells the difference between mermaids vs sirens
thank you for sharing. at 2:57 i feel that.
Sirens are the temptations of human beings. Homer referred to them in odyssey. One should have the power of self control in order to resist their calls
I fucking hate it when people misunderstand sirens and mermaids.(specially the 2018 tv show " siren")
Thanks a lot Hollywood
Hey that show is awesome
@@lifeisberserk9566 ngl I like it also😏
I wonder why in Spanish it’s the same name for both: Sirena
Lost in translation, probably
The mermaid and sirens in the thumbnail look like besties😂
According to Disney:
Mermaids fear human
Sirens are feared by human
Siren-BEYONCE
mermaid-HALLE
If it's true that siren is bird-like woman creature. Then, I'm confused between siren & harpy appearance. Harpy also is bird-like woman creature.
Harpies have bird bodies, while sirens have bird wings and legs.
So a Siren is more of a Harpy than a Mermaid.
No, they are all different
Now am curious what a harpy is
I have never heard of sirens having wings. This is all new to me. Lol.
I always love mermaid
Considering that they are both mythology and stories often change and evolve I don't think it's wrong to say they are the same or different versions.
Sirens are miss understood if you think about it
how about you make a video about the white mermaid and brown mermaid? thanks for video now I understand
nereid, slyph. I rather refer sirens as temptations and death
I knew the difference, but I read both were deadly. While sirens used voice and beauty to lure enthralled sailors to their deaths upon the rocks causing shipwrecks. Then killing any who survived drowning, on land.
Mermaids were said to deliberately drown sailors who were enchanted by their beauty and lured into their "loving" embraces (which were thought to be exceptionally strong).
Neither of those choices is ideal! Lol!😄😄😄
* Although I've always thought mermaids were the cuter of the two.😉
Mermaids and merfolk are generally hideous, and drown those using the element of surprise.
I have said say it was depicted as half bird, and half fish. So I believe that the two have a recent common ancestor.
Anyone who has served in the ministry of deliverance and done spiritual warfare against these entities or deliverd souls from demonic oppression and possession knows that in the spiritual realm the title "Siren" is associated with ALL DEMONIC ENTITIES OF A FEMALE NATURE PERIOD!
There are sea sirens, forest sirens, space sirens, ect! For example the real God of the Roman Catholic Church is a space siren, a fallen angel, who's actual name is Mary, but she is not the mother of Jesus. Her title's are: The Queen or Heaven because she rules the 2nd Heaven Satanic kingdom in space above our atmosphere, The Holy Mother, Fatima, The ever Virgin, the black virgin of Monzerat, ect. She is the source behind Roman Catholic blood magic, and she is the comander of the Archangels of the sacred heart of christ in the Catholic church.
The most powerful sea siren is: The Queen of the Coast, aka Mami Waata, I forgot what her first name is. She is a hybrid entity. A mermaid. She rules the Atlantic Ocean Satanic Kingdom. Her powers are black magic which she gives to her human agents. There is also a Queen of the Indian Ocean Satanic kingdom.
When God spoke his judgment against the Watcher's the 200 Angels who trespassed upon the earth and took human wives, he also spoke judgment against their wives condemning them to become Sirens of the sea, because they were from the earth and there was already space sirens. Solomon had contact with numerous demonic entities and even interviewed many of them and the female ones were all space sirens from above!
So again what I am saying is that a Mermaid is a Siren, just a siren of the sea! All female evil spirits aka demons are Sirens. The only difference is what Satanic kingdom they are from and what Principality demon they answer to! The 2 that I gave themselves are ruling Principalities of their own Kingdoms in space and in the sea!
Theologians and academics only know the mythology surrounding these entities but those of us who have actually dealt with these demonic beings face to face as they possessed human beings know who and what they are. To us there is no difference between them. All we know is that they are evil and we cast them out!
this scared me so hard it's midnight
I'll take my chances w/ Mermaids over Sirens anytime and anywhere 24/7
Beautiful❤
I've always ask myself the difference. Because in french Sirens and Mermaids were both label under the same names ! Sirens. It's only later reading old version of Greeks mythology that I've actually learn that the Greek sirens had actually wings in pottery painting. And was offen mistaken for Harpys. Maybe you should explain next time. The difference between Harpy and Sirens ? Just an idea.
Harpies have deathly screams and the full body of a bird, while sirens have beautiful voices with the wings and legs of birds.
I hate water so much. I would never be enticed by a mermaid, because I wouldn't be near the shore to begin with.
However, as an avian enthusiast, I would definitely try and catch a siren. For educational purposes, of course ;)
I believe both .. I believe some have truly fell in love with a sailor and they took advantage of her for money, sold her.. and then that was a rippling effect causing war between the woman of the sea and sailors
I’m curious how these two got combined
Me too! Sirens are one of my favourite mythological creatures so it gets so annoying when people find them as fish creatures
Sirens actually don’t have a physical depiction. The bird women are Harpies. When sirens were first told about they were just haunting female voices from the sea. Wasn’t till five hundred years after Homer wrote about them, they were drawn/mixed with Harpies. And a few more hundred years after they were mixed with mermaids and other deities! 👍🏻
is Siren are Harpe the same?
just wanna ask what is the difference of sirens and harpies?
Harpies have the full body of birds, and are only depicted as female. They represent wrath and have deathly screeches. Sirens are mostly depicted as women, though some are men, and they only have the wings and legs of birds, as well as enchanting and beautiful voices.
I would love to add to this harpies
In French both are called Sirène and Sirène ailée (winged Siren).
Loved it
I guess we'll never know for sure!
Never know what exactly?
So sirens are basically harpes?
No.
Ngl I am literally listening to siren music right now😅😅
2:56 - In the original story that image is depicting, Sirens primarily used their great knowledge, rather than their singing itself or their beauty. Especially not their beauty, since at the time we see through found pottery, that they were literally a completely anatomical bird, with just the head of a beautiful woman lol. Later on the stories changed a lot though, yea. I prefer the original concept. More interesting.
3:42 - Yea that's the stuff!
Sirens are depicted with beautiful humanoid bodies, apart from their wings and bird legs. Harpies are displayed at 3:42, I can see how you got mixed up
@@Empyrxus - No no. The original concept that we find of sirens, are the birds at 3:42. That is literally THE story that they are from, so those are sirens (that's not what harpies look like anyway).
We know this from pottery at the time (a full bird, just with the head of a woman, OR a man was seemingly actually more common. The story never specified what sirens look like, so we just go off of the pottery depictions). It's strongly suspected that they were essentially very much modelled after the Egyptian ba-bird (appearance-wise).
LATER, they started to be depicted as just having the wings and feet of birds (still not a harpy!). Then some time after that the Christians came along and then it became a mermaid for some reason. There's also art at the time of this transitionary period where the sirens are like, between a mermaid and a bird, or both are depicted in the same art.
@@Siberius- Yes! That is true! In earlier stories, sirens were originally fully bird bodies, though in some stories they had the torso of a human as well. Later, the humanoid head and body became much more popular, so I typically use that version. I dunno why Christians thought they were merfolk 😭
But then, what are harpies?
@@Empyrxus - Yea depends on the timeframe.
The mermaid thing is bizarre lol.
Harpies have their own (I'm sure very traumatic and unfair) mythology. I think there's only 3 of them, "Aellopous, Celaeno, and Ocypete, daughters of Thaumas and Ozomene".
But as far as appearance, sometimes (in ancient Greek times) they're depicted as just being winged women with (what they deem to be) ugly faces, but also often they were depicted as having the (unpleasing) face, whole torso and arms of a woman, but everything else was bird (wings, legs/feet, and hand talons).
So they're more of a hybrid situation than sirens that are just a full-on bird, but with a human head.
@@Siberius- Nevertheless, Sirens are my favourite mythological creature. I find it strange how male sirens eventually just vanished, though
What about sirens and harpies
0:10 Would be more acurate to say they "were" not.
Enchantress is a negative name?
It's funny how ancient greek mythology don't have mermaids but have mermans XD
4:18 Though mermaids have a better reputation, they can very well be deadly, both represents the dangers of the sea. And i think that calling sirens evil for killing peoples is a bit exagerrated.
You cant blame Siren for wanted to defend there home
In italian we don't have a word for mermaid. We have just Sirena
Actually Sirens can either be half bir and half human or half fish and half human. So they are technically mermaids.
I don't know about sirens and I never seen a marmaids but if I'll have to choose between the two i prefer marmaids
Interesting. The french word for mermaid is Sirene. Maybe the french have them mixed up?
Are Harpies and Sirens same thing?
no harpies are women headed birds, usely not that attractive.
Nope
I feel so weird to say this but when I was young I once encounter a bird who had human face Idk as a child if I was exaggerating things 😅 well I tried to search everywhere does a bird like this exits but found no result ...
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In some story in Greek myth state they are singing of vast knowledges and experiences and this is what tempts men. In this sense they are not evil men are just nosey. lol The sirens sing almost all the time so they aren't purposely luring anyone, the men are just unlucky and cannot resist them. In Greek myth their body is mostly bird their looks are not always appealing as it is argued just how much of their body is woman. In some myth they have the head of a woman and body of a bird and others torso of a woman and lower half and wings of a bird (similar to harpies) but more often than not they were not very large or strong like a harpy would be (another thing sirens get confused with are harpies). So if someone crashes their ship in the rocky edges of the island they live on they could not really help them. Harpies are the ones who actually purposely terrorized people by their own will or the command of the gods. In one myth Sirens were given wings to help find Persephone by Demeter her mother and their song was them calling out to Persephone. Other myth it was actually a curse given by Demeter as the Sirens use to be Persephone's handmaidens and as punishment for allowing Persephone to be abducted and not finding her. Demeter turned the handmaiden into winged creatures. Demeter is notorious for not being very nice so this is also somewhat believable. So as you can see they are not as evil as people make them out to be.
I really thought that sirens and mermaids are the same,, both sea creatures..
Sirens are not sea creatures
In Portuguese, both types of creatures are called “sereias” .
Lmap back in the day, we use to think they were the same thing 😂😂
Sirens are not myth. They are in The Book Of Enoch. God turned the women that seduced Lucifer and the other angels that fell into sirens as a punishment for their seductive treachery. They are also found in The Holy Bible in Septuagint coding as owls or ostriches. Wherever one translation says owls yet, another translation says owls in the exact same place, it is speaking of sirens!
Notea, respectfully~ tell your theory to the Ethiopian Church who still have 1 Enoch canonized in their Bible. 🇪🇹 Nothing in The Book of Enoch contradicts the 66 books of modern Scripture. On the contrary, the New Testament book of Jude chapter 1 verses 14-15 quotes directly from The Book of Enoch chapter 1 verse 9 and even gives authorship to Enoch the prophet. In summary, the Bible isn't going to quote from any other Book beside itself. It's pretty common knowledge that many Dead Sea Scroll books were taken out of today's Bible as we know it, if for no other reason then the sheer volume of text contained~ some just being repeat information. "They" had to condense things. Who wants to carry That gargantuan sized Book around!? But I digress.😉
God is an unlimited God not to be confined inside "our box" of understanding. The rest of this Story Puzzle is out there now for all to read and discover! 📖
Very wrong, Lucifer aka devil wasn't seduced by women. The dum dum wanted to be higher than God. Others fell due to women. But there's a thing hidden in Bible not all find, which is what came first. Devil is only a cherub, has anybody noticed the non princes don't end in el? Yes that name convention matters. Devil isn't even the oldest. Ppl tell these stories so wrong. If I asked who are oldest angels, nobody here could name em. But Bible doesn't explicit tell angel stories cuz those don't matter as much as other content. Also yes women who seduced angels got punished. Although if the angels did the taking in marriage,they get punished. Also back to what I first said, nothing sits higher than God, so if any space was above God, that's his personal space, nobody is sitting there, and obviously throne base is near a diff layer of heaven
Colonizer behavior to refer to other people’s beliefs as myth but enforce your own beliefs as absolutely true.
That's so hilarious that it's literal celestial cosmic super beings and the woman is still going to take the blame 😂 what a horrible religion. Oh yeah the average mortal just charmed it it didn't charm them they're not to blame lol those poor fallen super beings being confronted by the most evil a woman 😂 woooooow
This is wrong though. Sirens were part bird until they lost a singing contest to the Muses. The Muses plucked their feathers to make themselves crowns and that’s how they fell into the ocean. Hera organized the contest. Read Pausanias. Homer isn’t the alpha and omega of Greek Mythology
While yes, their feathers were plucked to make crowns, they regrew. In regret, they flew to Aeaea. They weren’t plucked to the king of not existing, just so they would feel punished.
Sirens are harpies that you see in various videogames.
i never knew sirens were bird like creatures since they have always been portrayed as mermaids but more evil
So sirens is winged woman or angel or bird woman or kentaur? Cos they are all has different job.
Weird linguistic of my country. "Sirena" a Filipino term for mermaids.
not weird cuz it's derived from espanol
I believe Mermaids are real. 7 women witnessed seeing 1 swimming in our beautiful cave. One of the popular Cave we have on our island. These 7 women's are in their 80's & 90 of age now.
not a word about the greek gorgones
Who cares if they bring danger to men....both are extraordinary
Sirens and Kinnaras (Hindu and Buddhist Myth) are similar.
واضح ان القصد من وراء هذه القصص العفه للبنات (حوريه). اما الاخرى تحذير للرجل من اهول البحر و النساء عصفورين بحجر
i read a book where sirens are the good guys and mermaids are the bad ones
Greek Sirens= similar to Harpies
Rest of the world sirens = Mermaid
Gotcha! 🤣
similar but not quite :)