It must be April Fools day...... As someone who has spent many hours running these things to hear the shuttle had one on board is mind boggling. How much fuel was needed to launch that. Nice to see such an interesting object.
@@JosiahGould Thanks I missed that, I still can't understand what is so hazardous about a thermal paper printer or fax. A Thermal printer is not noisy so they would have to box it in for sound proofing even so why could they not put a circulation fan to keep things from thermal overload and treat the paper with bromine to retard fire. They mentioned Apollo 1 in the report but that was an oxygen rich environment, another dumb decision. Noise becomes a problem so the box the printer in only for it to have cooling issues. But that is NASA and they spend too much time doing workarounds instead of evolving. Thanks for the correction. Thanks I missed that, I still can't understand what is so hazardous about a thermal paper printer or fax. They mentioned Apollo 1 in the report but that was an oxygen rich environment, another dumb decision. Noise becomes a problem so the box the printer in only for it to have cooling issues. A Thermal printer is not noisy so they would have saved all that trouble even so why could they not put a circulation fan to keep things from thermal overload and treat the paper with bromine to retard fire. But that is NASA and they spend too much time doing workarounds instead of evolving. Thanks for the correction.
About a decade ago I almost bought a very technologically backwards Datametrics army thermal printer from the mid-1980s. The reason I didn't buy it is because I couldn't find a way to power it. To tell you how backwards the design was, it had a board full of TO-5 transistors just to drive the elements of the Gulton line printhead inside- and this was a 1980s design! The modernised version of the same printer uses an off-the-shelf Citizen driver IC and printhead.
One of my foster brothers was on a few shuttle missions! The technology was dated when they made it to orbit, but it was extremely reliable! It reminds me of the Russian Globus. If it works, don't change it!
I have a book he gave me talking about the, at that point, *future* space shuttle. If I can find that book, I will happily let you all scan it in for inclusion in a future doodley-doo!
In its defense, it has seen a few years, lol. These little tidbits from the space program are always fascinating. Looking forward to see you all getting it back up and running again.
That was actually satisfyingly nerdy, interesting they had one of those on board the shuttle. I wonder if it had problems? Those FSK tones interested my cat 😂
24kg!!! Damn! Surely they could have lightened it! Regardless, this is within my ability to comprehend. :D Wonderful work!! Can't wait for the next installment,
An Epson MX-80 (commercially available in 1980) would have saved at least 18kgs. if they only got 600 baud, then the MX-80's 80cps would be quite adequate. And more important; Green bar printout -- in space. All that extra room could have been used for a decent little modem. (Let alone that a thermal printer plus an automatic fire-extinguishing system would still be lighter than than the TTY. ... and I'm not mentioning that the shuttle operates in a vacuum... just put the printer in the airlock. Problem solved.)
My God! Each launch of this bizarre thing cost the Americans $480,000! I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the electricity in the space shuttle was generated by a coal-fired steam engine.
Because then you need a computer that can decode the signal and have something that can take all the vibrations from launch. The teletype already has that.
This 59 pound pound tellatype machine will we weightless in space got to figure that if it was a small box 📦 or whatever it probably wouldn’t work properly and this machine is a tank also from the military standards from shocks and abuse this machine will take it on it’s a heavy duty machine not a cheap plastic toy machine it’s comon sence
@@CuriousMarc I did watch the video. The information was interesting, it was only the music that was annoying. Perhaps I am very used to documentary TH-cam channels that have no background music and perhaps I am not the demographic you are aiming for.
It must be April Fools day...... As someone who has spent many hours running these things to hear the shuttle had one on board is mind boggling. How much fuel was needed to launch that. Nice to see such an interesting object.
I think Ken said it cost about $1.5 million in weight cost each launch.
@@JosiahGould Thanks I missed that, I still can't understand what is so hazardous about a thermal paper printer or fax. A Thermal printer is not noisy so they would have to box it in for sound proofing even so why could they not put a circulation fan to keep things from thermal overload and treat the paper with bromine to retard fire.
They mentioned Apollo 1 in the report but that was an oxygen rich environment, another dumb decision. Noise becomes a problem so the box the printer in only for it to have cooling issues.
But that is NASA and they spend too much time doing workarounds instead of evolving. Thanks for the correction. Thanks I missed that, I still can't understand what is so hazardous about a thermal paper printer or fax. They mentioned Apollo 1 in the report but that was an oxygen rich environment, another dumb decision. Noise becomes a problem so the box the printer in only for it to have cooling issues. A Thermal printer is not noisy so they would have saved all that trouble even so why could they not put a circulation fan to keep things from thermal overload and treat the paper with bromine to retard fire. But that is NASA and they spend too much time doing workarounds instead of evolving. Thanks for the correction.
About a decade ago I almost bought a very technologically backwards Datametrics army thermal printer from the mid-1980s. The reason I didn't buy it is because I couldn't find a way to power it. To tell you how backwards the design was, it had a board full of TO-5 transistors just to drive the elements of the Gulton line printhead inside- and this was a 1980s design! The modernised version of the same printer uses an off-the-shelf Citizen driver IC and printhead.
One of my foster brothers was on a few shuttle missions! The technology was dated when they made it to orbit, but it was extremely reliable! It reminds me of the Russian Globus. If it works, don't change it!
I have a book he gave me talking about the, at that point, *future* space shuttle. If I can find that book, I will happily let you all scan it in for inclusion in a future doodley-doo!
In its defense, it has seen a few years, lol. These little tidbits from the space program are always fascinating. Looking forward to see you all getting it back up and running again.
A sound from the past... That sped up FSK sounds like the tape "turbo mode" for the 8bit ZX Spectrum!
That whistle was painful! I hope you can exclude it for the next one ;-) Great video even though I switched to CC at t the end.
The chain drive for the drum speaks tons about the design priorities for this thing.
You have cats that understand 600 baud NASA RTTY ? Amazing (I bet they can't do FT-8 though ) !
Those FSK tones made my cat go nuts
@2:08 You know, the Navy sure does like their boat anchors.
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People forget, the engineers etc were not idiots. It did the job it needed to do.
I used to service those during my military service
It certainly looks like a prototype device - the label stating 'Class III Not For Flight' on the inside is probably an important clue :-)
Oh I was hoping this one may show up for restoration
I love the reading room of the Library of Congress. I spent a lot of time there in the 1990's
Love your videos on space tech!
The USA's Industrial Military Printing complex at work.
That was actually satisfyingly nerdy, interesting they had one of those on board the shuttle. I wonder if it had problems? Those FSK tones interested my cat 😂
I'm 13 seconds in... I bet Ken will never even begin to figure this thing out 😊
24kg!!! Damn! Surely they could have lightened it! Regardless, this is within my ability to comprehend. :D Wonderful work!! Can't wait for the next installment,
They did! No case, half a frame no keyboard most of the ac parts.
@2:05 - I, too am from the Navy and I am also extremely heavy. Wait, what?
Another great video 👍🏻
An Epson MX-80 (commercially available in 1980) would have saved at least 18kgs. if they only got 600 baud, then the MX-80's 80cps would be quite adequate. And more important; Green bar printout -- in space. All that extra room could have been used for a decent little modem. (Let alone that a thermal printer plus an automatic fire-extinguishing system would still be lighter than than the TTY. ... and I'm not mentioning that the shuttle operates in a vacuum... just put the printer in the airlock. Problem solved.)
Would probably be harder to cerrtify though
big fan bro
It seems wrong to say, but I'm looking forward to the mechanical disasters, can't wait for the next video!
I'd like to suggest a notch filter to cut out the FSK tones while testing. They're kinda painful when turned up enough to hear you clearly.
you guys are my heros
Wow!!! Next you need a fax machine
Uuuh .. new toys! ;)
It's like a mechanical cicada.
Very cool
So I'm assuming that the astronauts couldn't take shorthand.
can't wait for the next. vous êtes de fabuleux barjos 😍😍😲😲
My God! Each launch of this bizarre thing cost the Americans $480,000! I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the electricity in the space shuttle was generated by a coal-fired steam engine.
Why not a daisy-wheel printer?
Because then you need a computer that can decode the signal and have something that can take all the vibrations from launch. The teletype already has that.
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gov't efficiency,
nooo not the muzak... i can't watch any of the videos since you started using that track, it gets stuck in my head for days driving me nuts... ;_;
This 59 pound pound tellatype machine will we weightless in space got to figure that if it was a small box 📦 or whatever it probably wouldn’t work properly and this machine is a tank also from the military standards from shocks and abuse this machine will take it on it’s a heavy duty machine not a cheap plastic toy machine it’s comon sence
The background music was too loud, annoying and unnecessary.
But this hasn’t been enough time for you to even watch the video!?
@@CuriousMarc The levels are fine. Great video, as always!
@@CuriousMarc I did watch the video. The information was interesting, it was only the music that was annoying. Perhaps I am very used to documentary TH-cam channels that have no background music and perhaps I am not the demographic you are aiming for.