Everything is a prototype
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Today I'm building something that I love and hate at the same time...a dining room light fixture. I'm a woodworker, but not an electrician, so the wooden parts of this build turned out great, but the electrical parts are another story. Come along as I come to terms with the fact that everything I make is a prototype.
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0:00 Intro
0:13 Everything is a Prototype
2:42 Why Time Doesn't Matter (to me)
4:52 Multitasking and Making a Light Panel
8:44 Buying New Tools
9:59 Boring Parts Are Important Too
10:48 Curves on Curves
12:21 How to Support the Channel
14:10 Turning Parts Into a Light Fixture
17:16 Why I Hate This Piece - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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Despite you not liking the LED guts the view from almost every angle looks great! Well done Shaun!
Appreciate it! And you're right!
split the lamp in half long wise behind the darker band, then space the top half and lower half far enough apart that your LEDs will be recessed so it looks smooth, this will also force the light to reflect off the center panel.. your art form is amazing, truly inspiring.. please keep pushing your designs.. thank you for all that you do.
I immediately thought this and came to the comments to see if anyone else had the same idea. Great minds, am I right? 😅
@@Fr0stbyte89 Yep. I immediately thought " Rout a channel in the dark band for the LED and hey, presto!" Does the exact same thing.....
Just commenting to boost this higher as I had the same thought. LED lights just look better when they are recessed into a channel and a router won't get into the curves so cutting the big piece in half and using the accent wood as a structural element to hold them together is the way to go.
I would also consider using a blind dovetail or rebate joint at the top for the cross pieces to avoid using plugs but that's getting very fancy.
Overall I love it.
Yep. This is the way forward. Recess and indirect light for LEDs. Also ensure one uses enough density so that individual lights are not discernable.
My original thought was to route a channel to recess the LEDs, partly because I thought there were multiple levels of strips and they wouldn't be the full depth of the wood, but this idea works too. You could split the inner layers of the bent lamination for the grooves on the ends. As they say, there's always more than one way to accomplish something.
Also, I'm pretty sure white acrylic is a thing and would be easier than making an epoxy sheet.
I did have thought Shaun. Why not route a channel in the inside in the centre- the thick bit - inset the LED’s and cover with a directional diffuser. It would then shine onto the centre and not be visible from below. Still a great build👍
Definitely a good idea, and something I considered. But honestly by the time I realized the issues, the lamp was too far along to make any big changes like that. Maybe if I ever get around to making a new version!
@@shaunboydmadethis: I understand you could have pressure to leave it in place, it’s only 6 screws to take the centre out and a bit of router work🤔. Maybe🤭. Will follow with interest. . .
The curved ends would be a problem. Cut it in half. Mount the light channel in the middle, cover the outside with the accent bar. Lights and wires would be recessed.
@@shaunboydmadethisplease do and then make plans! This is too good not to.
@@MattGilliesCwnAnnwnthe solution is to plan ahead and basically build the groove into the lamination process. Start with two thinner strips, aided by a raised portion in the form for alignment, and then once thick enough move to the full width strips
Felt potential disaster awaiting as soon as the project idea was presented, immediately I questioned “how is Shaun ever gonna lay on a light?“ ~Smile oN
Haha, I always figure out a way!
I highly recommend getting thin, self adhesive COB Led strips, and doing multiple loops across the inside. They are super pretty and even when you look at them directly, it looks like a continuous glowing string without any cables or fixtures etc.
Came here to say this - COB strips!
You have all the tools - so you could get the super thin ones (2.7mm) and use a router to make a groove for it on the inside. It will also fit nicely on the curved pieces.
I concur. I'd go one step further and embed a thin aluminum channel for the COBs, and you could even put a frosted diffuser on them if you like. They make channel/diffuser kits that are only 3/8" deep, so that would look very trick! The aluminum would add some polish and help with heat.
You're a great storyteller (and woodworker)! Happy holidays. I hope 2024 is a great year for you and your family.
Thanks Jay! Same to you!
I have a similar design I've been developing in my head for the last few years (plus a handful of sketches). It's great to see it come to life and gives me more motivation to get it done.
That is an amazing light! And I personally have had dozens of light fixtures over tables and have rarely sat under them looking up at the working parts, it really is that view in the room we look at along with the quality of the light it gives. I say you nailed this.
I appreciate hearing that! I sit below it and stare straight up at it now haha!
This is wonderful. Congratulations.
A very art deco feel. I really like it.
Dude!!! That is an awesome piece of light furniture fixture. Thanks for showing it. You just gave me the idea I was looking for.
Great vid! Actually quite a beautiful piece you made!
As a You Tube fan, and fan of your content. Any project that has multiple components and techniques that are not seen everyday is awesome to watch.
Really cool design.. i like it
Looks fantastic Shawn! Super cool design!
The design on this piece is awesome! To be such a small component of the overall process, that inside chamfer detail really adds a lot. The video itself was also really well executed, timing, flow, and overall entertainment value - it was all there. Solid work m'man!
Hey Shaun!!
Looks like that would make a cool pool table lamp!
Happy New Year!!!
Shaun you've outdone yourself with this light! Amazing work dude
nice piece, simple channel fix, and finished the vid off with my favourite humm song
Well done, thanks for sharing
Looks great!
This is so inspiring, I love the design! Great video
Another super cool video Shaun. Love the design and the story :).
Your work always amazes me. Thank you for the inspiration.
It looks amazing! I know how you feel about the light strip, but it is just a prototype. A beautiful prototype! Thanks for sharing your talents.
Great design as always Shaun.
Although im suprised no one else has mentioned that you could of just bought a white sheet of arcrylic/perspex cut to size. Would have saved you hell of a lot of time, money and materials.
This is a very quite really great looking prototype.
I love that dacia you have overthere. We own 2 at this point plus their electric one 2023!
Always excited to see a new video!
I really like the inward sloping bevel on the bottom of the shade. A trick of the eye at least in the camera shot makes it look like the shell is thin and the wider edge is a rolled in like the edge of a sheet metal something or other. Great project.
Really love the design with this one Shaun...very clean and modern. The chamfer detail on the banding pieces is a nice touch as well. Enjoyed this build video...keep it up!
I am always looking forward to your videos. Thank you for the excellent content.
Thanks for watching!
A late Christmas Present from my favorite maker, thanks Shaun! ❤
I think this is my favorite one of your builds. It doesn't look like a prototype. I also love how you used the first curved piece to make the accent curved pieces fit exactly.
Shaun I have a fix for this light fixture. Inside flat screen TVs there are sheets that cover the LEDs that backlight the screen. The sheets diffuse the light. If you installed a thin sill of sorts above and below the led stops you would now a piece in between the sills and would completely cover the LEDs on the long portions. You could probably do the same around the curves on the end of it was accordion folded then bowed. Just an idea I thought I’d suggest. Regardless the fixture came out amazing.
Glad you're making videos on your own again, cheers!
I was waiting to see just how in the heck you were going to lie on that thing and what you did was nothing short of EPIC. Love the light and would love to see more builds like this.
Caulking tip for you Shaun: Instead of 'dragging' the caulking tip, and having to go back and tool with your finger, instead, PUSH the tip along while applying the caulk. Watch carefully as you go and don't apply too much caulk. Practice with this technique a bit and you'll (almost) never have to tool a caulk joint again.
@@GolfDropout Sorry, I don't have that ability. Would if I could though! It's pretty easy though, just push the caulk out ahead of the tip as you push the gun forward.
@@GolfDropout Don't have the ability to do the video upload, sorry. Of course I can do the technique, been using it for decades. It's so easy though, it really doesn't need a video. Just push instead of drag!
@@GolfDropout Checkout Modustrial Maker, he has a number of videos making molds for concrete but it's a similar process. He uses a ball-ended tool commonly using in cake decoration to form the fillet in the silicone.
awesome creativity for that lay down at the end 😂 ! love it !! keep it up !🎉
This reminded me of Poul Henningsen's lamps - same base concept of not being able to see the light source, and he made some iconic lamps from it (ph lamps) - - just to say well done, and I think it would be interesting to see further iterations on this design!
Bent laminations from resawn boards is such an incredible medium to create from. Love it.
For sure!
great project and process. was just going to say that corian might be a great material for the center panel. it looks great and has a slight translucency to it.
Great video!
That looks great Shaun, you could put a thin diffused panel just up inside to hide the wiring from below.. 👍
Great build Shaun. Welcome back. I agree with what GWAIHIRKV suggested as well as maybe a floating valence around the light apparatus. Just an idea. Again, keep up the great work Shaun.
Love your videos
Nice calm as always👍
Cool lamp
Hi Shaun, I absolutely love this design! If I ever make a light like this, your design will be a strong contender. I have a possible solution for your love/hate relationship with this though. It’s something I came up with when retro-fitting an art deco hanging lamp in my dining room. I didn’t want to destroy an antique fixture, but at the same time looking up at the lights inside it was not an aesthetically pleasing experience. So I ordered a sheet of quarter inch frosted polycarbonate (Lexan?) and cut it to fit just inside the perimeter of the lamp. You could do the same and suspend it from the cross bars with (insert favorite method here) I used thin brass strips which matched the brass from which the lamp was made. You would need to cut a slot in the plastic for the epoxy to stick out. But eminently do-able. As I see it there is no need to make a second lamp, just « finish » this one! In case you are wondering, frosted polycarbonate glows nicely when lit from behind. Hope you find this interesting, or even useful.
Cheers,
Keith
Ah, that's a good idea! Thanks!
@@shaunboydmadethis You are most welcome. Not so incidentally, your lamp has an art deco esthetic I admire. Did I say I liked the design? Cheers
Shaun, @keithklein4538 pretty much nailed what I scrolled down to comment on. I'd add that if you want it even faster (and maybe cheaper), go you your fave box store (orange or blue) and pick up an 1/8th inch sheet of Lexan, cut to fit as Keith said, and then sand one or both sides with about P220... instant frosting, no added $$. Also, the 1/8" would be lighter, if that's an issue. I've done this myself with some home built-ins, works great.
BTW, I dig that lamp too. Definitely not vomitous.
Lovely looking light it really gose well witht the table below
I really appreciate those courses! I’m working on moving into my first home right now, and I really wanted to build my own dining table, rather than buy one. The eating table plan looks perfect, I’ll get it as soon as I have my space :)
4:00 boiling a pot of water and then dunking the peices into the water makes the wood more flexible I had to do a project and I did this to make some curves
5:48 if you scale this up a little bit you can turn it into a coffee table or a media table. Mabey next project idea?
Also a possible way to make it so you can't see the lights is get some semi non see throught plexi glass or something of the sorts and glue it to the inside of it
Looks great, amazing build.
Wowza that is one good looking lamp with out seeing the leds!
I think it's a great looking fixture,, any light is going to have wires and being that particular about it is undue stress over something that just has to be, I didn't see any wire going to the ceiling so I'm calling it a win, nice job and great design, I might be building one myself
I was just thinking "how is he going to lay on this," when the image of Shaun superimposed on the lamp showed up. Well-played! Awesome video.
Was that the Folger's coffee jingle you were whistling?
nice idea. cool looking. great work
your too funny love your commentary! :) BTW the light looks very cool
wow that light fixture looks great!
I sure appreciate your comments about building "prototypes" . Feel like I've only ever done that. .. and yes .. v2 would be better ..lol
Oh Shaun it’s lovely!
Thank you, Alison!
acrylic panels make good diffusers and come with various attenuative values. also, they make flexible led channel, and most accept a cover for a nice neat look.
I LOVE the techniques and craftsmanship used to make this light. LED’s can be tricky…but there are some really thin strips that will give you lots of options. I would love to see this with a full spectrum light with colors. Great job!
I honestly didn't realize how thick this light strip was when I bought it. I've used the thin ones before, but figured I would try something a bit "nicer". Thanks for watching!
I have no idea why you don't like it, it's an awesome build! I really like the result. very cool idea, very neet execution. well done.
Love the look. Maybe make some opaque diffuser panels to go horizontally across the top and bottom so that the light shines through but you can’t see the LED strips and wiring inside?
A beautiful light fixture! I work with LEDs daily, so i would say first, always recess your strips, secondly, for indoor use, you don't need the silicone or rubber covered strips, those are designed for outdoor use, for splash protection etc. Indoors, you can go with plain strips, they are thinner and also, to plug them up, solder your leads using finer cable. You can also use LED channels in your recesses to add your diffusion cover.
Overall, a great end product, just minor adjustments needed, which you can technically do (minus the recess). I would replace the bulky strips with the thinner ones and replace the plastic channels with nice aluminium ones for cleaner aesthetics, so even if you look inside, it still looks sophisticated 😊
I feel you on the "I'm prototyping everything" when you build all your projects - been building guitars for ~10 years or so now and because I'm not using a CNC for anything each one has that same one-off feel through the build. Definitely dig what you do here - keep things up! Cheers!
For sure, which is fun, but can also be frustrating! Thanks for watching!
You can get flexible sealed LED tubes which are 10mm deep and 5mm wide and very bright, we use them on our yachts. Make a groove round the inside and place the light there. Personally what I’d do is once the main curved “pill” is made, cut it down the middle so you have two pills. The accent piece bridges the cut, which you space out by 5mm for the LED strip, and provides the structure to hold it all together.
its looking great Shaun, really!!
Thank you!
Love this. Shaun inspires me to design my own projects
Love to hear that! Go for it!
Great video Shawn the light looks amazing. I was thinking like a couple of other people said what if you would have made a grove around the inside to hide the lights in ?
For the bonus points it's the best part, just look in your cup after you wake up.
Looks great, Shaun. I share a lot of the same sentiments with you.
The light turned out great Shaun! While you might not be able to iterate on this design, another great aspect of making TH-cam videos is that someone else seeing it might iterate on your design and post a video of it that you get to watch. Thanks for sharing!
watched this video (the first of yours) because i love the look of what you have created. don't knock what you have made i think with a little thought and looking at what new lighting is out there you may have something you will be fully proud of in the end
That was a very nice fit!
When I saw the design first, I thought the middle contrast oval ring is to strengthen the slot for led inside. So if you make a second version, you can create a lot inside and try to inlay the led strip. Design looks awesome!
The best part of waking up is Folders in your cup🎵🎶
You could swap out the epoxy panel for a light sheet or edge lit acrylic.
Is a shame as it’s a lovely looking light. Could maybe also use a slimmer LED and set it into the wood instead of screwed to face. You should do a mark 2 build. Shows development and progress. Would be interesting to see
Pool hall lights is what we call them. Very cool video
Could try using the diffuser panel from a large LCD display eg. from a monitor or TV.
This looks awesome, man! Loving the new shop too.
Thanks, man!
I love your presenting style…. And the woodworking obviously! I think the over table light fixture came out great, I would be really proud if I had made it… and I might as it will give me the excuse to buy a vacuum bag!😁
As always, great.
I think I would have poured another translucent panel that sits horizontally within the fixture that would hide everything from below... That or use a diffuser panel from a fluorescent light.
But, I think it's a beautiful piece! Great job using techniques that are not at all easy!
Awesome build as always. Great to see the process from start to finish, mistakes and all!
on a side note: was the tune you were whistling the Folgers Coffe jingle?
Superb... I would make a recess where the outer rim is, and setting in the LED strips with a diffuse cover. It would look awesome. :)
One could recess the LED strip. Since it's supposed to be relatively bright, I'd also worry about its longevity without a metal heatsink, though most people don't think about it. I'd make sure somehow that people sitting under the light can't see the step itself.
The middle panel could be made with plexiglass instead of epoxy. I've can easily find plexiglass and similar materials in various colors/frostiness.
Just a thought... the exterior darker colored wood can be made into a bridge connecting a split horizontally the main fixture. Allow say an inch of recess clearance between the split section for fixing the led light strip. It'll be a cleaner built!
That's a good-looking fixture thingy. You probably know by now there are sources of led connectors out there that are much more elegant. Nice work!!
I feel like a recessed more bare bones LED strip would have done the trick here pretty easily. Once you started assembly without a channel though I definitely had some questions :)
Either way its a great piece and thanks for sharing!
this is a fantastic light fitting! the only things i can think of that could help with the "ugly" wiring would be to go a little bit more bespoke with the implementation. ditch all the big bulky connectors and cable, and solder the bits and pieces together.
It's a bit late now, but for the next prototype, route a small relief into the wall to recess the strip lighting a bit, then route a "hidden" channel under the accent piece to route the wiring between sides?
Put a ledge on under the led light to hide it from eye sight and then place an angled reflective piece on the top edge of the epoxy to redirect the light more down word. Love the lamp.
love ya man 🙌🙏
Your macro view of time concept is "lead time" or "cycle time" or "wall clock time" (depending on exactly what you're measuring) and is the best way of measuring your time.
Love the VW Caddy in the background
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you're truly my inspiration everyday. Great design
Thank you!
Shaun,
First off, I love the design and execution of the bent wood and the contrasting epoxy reflector of the light. (whether it be a chandelier or pendant or whatever) From the light component standpoint I would have to agree, on the thicker strip lights do look pretty $#*^y. I ran into a similar issue when trying to conceal an led strip light in a wood channel above my work from home desk and had success with Feit brand Onesync "Tape Lights'". The strips are thinner, more flexible and easier to conceal than a lot of strip lights. They may be worth a look.? Anyway, thanks for finishing the project and posting this video even though the final look wasn't exactly what you had hoped.
Cheers,
Ryan
My immediate reaction would be to split the inner fixture, and use that to create a recess to hide most of the LED strip, since you've currently got a decorative, but non-functional accent strip. By augmenting that with an inner accent strip, you could hide almost all of the visible LED strip. With this, the main challenge would be whether enough of the resin panel is illuminated to provide good light.
May I suggest the following.... de-montage the white epoxy panel ..plane the top edge really plane and sand as smooth as possible (by hand NOT with Your Mirka!) ..then place on this "edge" a strip of LED lighting ( check if the lighting needs more oumpf or not) ...when this gives You suffient light on the table, I am sure You can add an suteble enclosure for the nasty LED strip on top! The way this should work is by scattering light on the white pigment particals in the epoxy mass. Greetings from a retyred ophthalmist in the Netherlands🤓