Reverb and Delay Blunders: Fixing Common Mistakes

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    In today's video, I try to share my knowledge of Reverb and Delays. Why are return tracks so crucial for producers to use? Is it because the DRY Signal is never removed fully, acting as a safety net for more amateur producers. Why do so many producers use long decay times on their reverbs? What's a good set in stone decay to follow until you fully understand reverb? In this video I try to break all that down for you guys
    00:25 Returns and Sends Why You Need THEM
    02:10 The Delays People Want
    03:49 Treating The Reverbs EQ
    04:26 The Autopan Reverb Trick
    05:06 Washout Utility Automations
    06:48 What Should Your Reverb Decay Be?
    08:23 Unify Sounds with Reverb
    09:59 Why I Teach People To Cutback
    10:36 Outro
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ความคิดเห็น • 47

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen1973 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So at 2:50, if you're trying to do that delay trick and NOT use a return track, do this: create an effects rack on your track. One chain is going to be your dry. The second chain is going to be your WET and contain your delay. Here's the trick, put a UTILITY before your delay in the WET chain and lower the volume to -inf. Nothing is passing INTO your delay because the utility is blocking it. When you want to send, then bring up the UTILITY to whatever level you want via automation; including putting a delay on just a phrase or syllable.

  • @MyChorizoSausage
    @MyChorizoSausage ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love your content Zen. As someone with a full-time job who produces music recreationally, I really appreciate how you break things down for guys like us.

  • @DanielRivera-wn7ne
    @DanielRivera-wn7ne ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FYI, I'm super old school. Thank you for teaching the older methods. I find it hard to believe anyone would consider send / returns to be "old". It was literally an evolution of mixing and is a shame that people would make their lives harder by not utilizing it. Bravo. Great vids. I'm subscribing!

  • @FrankyDigital2000
    @FrankyDigital2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never use send/return the classic way, so that i can pull complete tracks from other projects and don't have to worry about killing my FX.

  • @djvoid1
    @djvoid1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ended up stopping using return tracks and creating a 'DIY returns' group containing audio channel "return chains" and 'pre-plumbed-in' sends that I can just copy to under the track I want the effect on, then just tell the send where to get it's audio. This works better for me for a few reasons
    1. You can add whatever you like to the send. It's not just a dumb knob. You can pre-filter, use delay to add pre-delay, add a limiter too avoid getting an unwanted 'blast' of reverb on transient sounds
    2. Ableton has delay compensation issues when it comes to returns, meaning they get out of time the more complex the project becomes. This can mess up the tone on certain sounds
    that are heavily blended with reverb, since there's an unpredictable phase shift happening between the dry sound and wet.
    3. It' makes things visually easy to manage and gives you loads more control.

  • @mxnnymusic
    @mxnnymusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Returns are so underrated. good content!

  • @beandinner1262
    @beandinner1262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just subscribed recently, your videos have been so helpful as I return to music production after like 10ish years! lol

  • @gordonviechielstein
    @gordonviechielstein ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a really high noise frequency that has been playing in the background of your last videos. Might want to get that fixed. Dope video

    • @iam_myster_e
      @iam_myster_e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You headphones are the issue my boy

  • @ertugrulgul824
    @ertugrulgul824 ปีที่แล้ว

    you never cease to amaze me

  • @Fulloctave
    @Fulloctave ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great content as always.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks my brother how's the wife?

    • @Fulloctave
      @Fulloctave ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZenWorld She only has eyes for you now zen. she is making me get grow my hair 😊

  • @cekirdekci32
    @cekirdekci32 ปีที่แล้ว

    now I ll go ahead and cut down all my reverbs 🤣seriously. will be setting up the returns as default just like in this video. and never will use 16 hundred different reverbs just because I can Lol. pro reverb tutorial Zen such a good reminder. thank you.

  • @lucasbellodi
    @lucasbellodi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    quick question here, what would be the advantage of using the return channel rather than reverb/delay as an effect and just use automation on the wet/dry knob or just on/off? that way you accomplish the same but can have different returns/delays on different tracks. Thanks for the amazing content btw!

  • @6Litz_
    @6Litz_ ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of good info in this one 🙌🏼 i recently started using more returns but i like how you have yours set up with the delays/echo boy im definitely gonna add that to my templates 🔥🔥🔥 also reminded me of some tricks i stopped using for no reason a while ago 😂 nice vid!

  • @daniel.huebert
    @daniel.huebert ปีที่แล้ว

    3:03 „balltickler sounds“ 😂

  • @artyy00
    @artyy00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u Zen, Hot as aways !

  • @billyannear1711
    @billyannear1711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Advice Dawg👍

  • @cekirdekci32
    @cekirdekci32 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @joemusiconly
    @joemusiconly ปีที่แล้ว

    Zen Habla sobre el Sound Design de Massano !! Pls 🤯🤯🤯

  • @AGENTFORTETV
    @AGENTFORTETV ปีที่แล้ว

    You're a legend bro! Keep doing what you do. Dope!

    • @AGENTFORTETV
      @AGENTFORTETV ปีที่แล้ว

      Possible to re-sample the return reverbs too into the same project?

  • @Prod.Maurice
    @Prod.Maurice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My man 💯

  • @brendonw456
    @brendonw456 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Watching this, I noticed you may have fumbled the timing on the 1/16th notes a bit. You said, "Point one one milliseconds", but that appeared to be 0.11 *seconds*.
    0.11 seconds would be 110 milliseconds. A sixteenth note hitting every millisecond would be...not pleasing to the ear lol

  • @jonathanroseii905
    @jonathanroseii905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video definitely useful

  • @plexq
    @plexq ปีที่แล้ว

    Used to use sends way more, and kinda just stopped, and used stacked groups with a thru, echo, and delay group, and now I'm realizing that's SO unnecessary, and I'm basically just reinventing sends for the most part.

  • @eliranfarag3366
    @eliranfarag3366 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are the man

  • @user-qp5be2hq2i
    @user-qp5be2hq2i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's your favorite Verb ?
    I got eventide now i prefer IT to valhalla often...

  • @SonnyOlivera
    @SonnyOlivera ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @sebastianf.chong98
    @sebastianf.chong98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unreal stuff man I was just thinking how little I acc know about reverb and delay last night while on my daw. Safe to say I've just learnt a great amount of important stuff in here. Say, I know logic x is not your area of expertise but do you know if the fx buses have the same role as the send and return tracks you showed here? Big ups g thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏

  • @niklasahlstrom
    @niklasahlstrom ปีที่แล้ว

    Pro-pro-tip: instead of using a return or send track, just duplicate the track and put a delay/reverb on 100% wet on the duplicated one.
    With this method it's super easy to have delay throws on certain words. It's also way faster to try things on the fly. Just mute and unmute clips on your duplicated fx track.

  • @arapocket
    @arapocket ปีที่แล้ว

    Your points for using the return can be accomplished by just using parallel processing

  • @rashidjurgens9992
    @rashidjurgens9992 ปีที่แล้ว

    insane content wow

  • @croogb
    @croogb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tldr always insert your reverbs

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Croog for suffering through my video to provide a summary. I love you

  • @eliranfarag3366
    @eliranfarag3366 ปีที่แล้ว

    plz if you can make a video abut midside eq side eq to clean up a mix

    • @DrumNBassed
      @DrumNBassed ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s easy, cut rumble between 140 and 440hz, cut HI’s down to 7 to 10 khz

  • @andreabertazzoni6834
    @andreabertazzoni6834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I exploded on "I wonder why"

  • @imhenotic
    @imhenotic ปีที่แล้ว

    Didnt know that producers were saying that Fx channels are outdated, what a crazy thougth hehehe

  • @We_Run_Up_Hills
    @We_Run_Up_Hills ปีที่แล้ว

    What track is this? Is it out?

  • @conradbho
    @conradbho ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo! Zen! If I wanted to sidechain the kick to the reverb in the return track, would that be where I put it? Before the reverb in the return track?

    • @makhnist
      @makhnist ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends on what you want to achieve. In general, if you want to make space for the kick then you put the sidechain compressor after the reverb, otherwise the reverb is going to be present all the time.

  • @Jabez007
    @Jabez007 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍💯💯💯😎😎😎

  • @kanedNunable
    @kanedNunable ปีที่แล้ว

    i tend not to use delays in returns as i like to tweak each delay depending on the sound and i automate the feedback etc.

    • @ZenWorld
      @ZenWorld  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ccum HERE