"thank you for your offers. I d pick james and debras offer cos I don't know if I will be comfortable working with an investor giving me deadlines like that."
Peter's time limit is an instant no from me. Someone gives me an arbitrary limit like that and my response is "Obviously you know that if I think about this deal I'll see it's a bad one so no. I won't play your game. Thank you very much"
I respect James. Even though his offer was rejected based on "not knowing him or his achievements" he still stood up and went over to shake his hand. Gentlemanly stuff.
Peter Jones demands seriousness from the entrepreneurs, so he must show it himself. You do not give a man three minutes to decide. When offering, one must assume that he believes it is a good business.
3-minute deadline :D Who does he think he is? If he was in front of big players who are 100 times wealthier than him, he would be like a little puppy with its tails all curled in.
This is their attitude. They hold the purse strings and do whatever they want. I didn't dislike rich ppl before but after watching many episodes of these shows I don't have a good feeling about them,
You don't know who you'll meet in the world of business there's bigger pricks than Peter. Peter did him a favour. But it was nice for the guy to have James to counter Peter.
+ Ruhel Production Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
@@SageTheRage Which is exactly why I would never go on that show. Anyone who tries to bully you into doing business is not someone I'd be keen on at all.
Update: the dragons didn’t end up financing it - which seems to be a fairly common outcome on this show. I don’t know why or the particulars, but I’ve researched a few of these episodes and this is the second time I’ve seen the the dragon deal didn’t go through. The product did really well for a while, especially in the USA, but after getting financing several times from other sources, the Bank pf Ireland refused them a loan to make the stock they needed to fill orders, and they had to liquidate and sell the patent. It appears that it’s not being made any more - there are 3 available on Amazon, but none from Bed Bath and Beyond, which was a major client at one point.
Many times they find out the reality of the integrity of the people, their finances, and the actual company, and find that it would not be something that can work out.
I understand that when a Dragon makes an offer and genuinely wants the business, they will fight for it by any means neccessery but out of all the strategies Peter has used to secure an investment, putting a timer on the Entrepreneur was a dirty move!
These guys have every right to be proud of what they have achieved but the way the belittled this pretty nice guy during this pitch didn't seem to me to be very attractive qualities to their personalities.
Great idea, I dated a girl that when she was sunbathing she would cover her face with a towel and her care of protection paid off and she has aged so gracefully. I love the sun, but if anything needs to be protected, it's your face and you'll love yourself for it later.
7.500 stores in the US before walking in, i would have said I'm sticking to 30% could initially do 40% but with targets met and investment returned come down to 30%
Yeah, my response would have been "I'll take up James and Deborah on their offers. Peter, I wouldn't work with you if you were the only Dragon who made an offer after a stunt like that."
+Isomer Mashups Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
The deal never worked out and the dragons did not come on board. Cush'n Shade however did very well after this appearance on the show and got some very lucrative deals. However, they went into liquidation in 2012 and sold out the company when Banks would not finance them to meet letter of credit from a major retailer
Considering this was back in 2008... Oh wait, oh... I Googled Cush'n Shade and saw they still get sold on Amazon for £29.99 but having gone on companycheck.co.uk, I can see that they got dissolved. I probably would give up to 60% equity to a dragon, I mean it's greedy for them, but if I'm an inventor there will always be other projects in the future. If the dragon's help means a success then why not. I'm sure I could cope with a little butt hurt if it meant I'd make money.
Peter Jones has a damned cheek to put a three minute time limit on it. Of all the dragons, I find him the most pompous, arrogant and most in need of a slap. How dare he? Oh yeah, he dares because he's filthy rich and can treat people in need with disdain. Typical public schoolboy type. In a previous life he was probably King Henry VIII. I'd never get into bed with him over James Caan. But then, I'm not a multi-millionaire. Although I should be.
I LOVE Peter but this was an absolute NO from me. I would have declined immediately. It was disrespectful to the other dragons who did not even have time to make offers yet.
Don't know this is advertised in the UK but in Canada it's sold investing in a good idea but what it was initially was more of a take over. The dragons would see a great idea or product and would only invest for 51% of the company, it has since changed with the intro of new and different dragons but I suspect also either ratings dropped or fewer people wanted to come and pitch their idea or product if they new they would have to give away their company or both.
No, wrong again! :) I was trying to be funny at your expense, but seriously. I think PJ made a bully move by putting a time constraint on him. If you are going to make a life changing decision, I'd think you'd want to know all the options before making a call? It is customary that all Dragons give their offers, so this was PJ being a dick. I'd say: I'm sorry you put it that way, because I want the project to succeed and being rushed into an important decision like this will not work.
Peter Jones, shame on you. Pressuring someone like that is unforgivable. I suspect you sleep well at night. Hope the afterlife is as comfortable for you.
Andy Ward I was at private school with PJ as we called him back then, for a guy so talk he was the laughing stock of the showers - a real tiddler down yonder
No he wasn't lol this clip has just been edited u can tell because before he starts talking the presenter says he is holding up against the scrutiny of the them lol
Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
I just would have told Peter that I'm not accepting his offer.Can you imagine this is the way this guy wants to start off a business relationship?What happens when he wants his investment back right away?Ok,it's been 5 days since I invested in you,I want my 50,000 pounds back in the next 3 minutes.Oh yeah I really want to work with someone like that!The dragons are assholes,you really find out what people are like when they are in a position where they don't have to be nice.
dont understand the hate for peter, remember, this is first and foremost a show and its his and all the dragons job to make it entertaining. Now i wouldnt have played a long with peters bullying, and he shouldnt have either, but you cant blame peter for trying to make this a little more interesting.
It would have been a no brainer to discard peter and go for the other 2 when he started pratting about with time limits. Would have just been better to exclude him for doing that.
Considering how the video was cut & edited, that 3 minute time limit was probably more like a whole afternoon with tea and triangle sandwichs at intervals to rehearse .... That`s one thing i feel betrayed by; Live shows adapted & compiled of good bits for entertainment, which is obviously necessary but sort of steals from the essence or am I just too fucking stoned again?
The contestants on this programme are usually terrible at negotiating the percentage down. "Would you be willing to consider lowering the percentage?" and such. Of course the dragons are going to say no. It has been much more effective on this programme to negotiate for an agreement where the percentage equity is lowered if they meet their projections.
I wouldn't have worked with Peter at all. Any business partner that tries to bully or intimidate you at the onset is not someone I'd be keen on. If he does it now, he'll continue to do so in future.
I was always a Peter Jones fan but this was really disappointing to see - People look for his support and advice because of his persona, this was a real negative turn to watch
And Peter Jones's behaviour is reprehensible. How could you work with someone like that?
Peter is such a man-child!
"thank you for your offers. I d pick james and debras offer cos I don't know if I will be comfortable working with an investor giving me deadlines like that."
I don't like how Peter Jones gave time limits and personally would have went with James and Debra. Wonder how it turned out !
Bilal Ahmed I was thinking the same
I would've chosen James too and made it clear to Peter that I don't won't to work with someone with such poor manners and arrogance.
Laura Efron-Carter And Peter would laugh and say nothing.
Jones was a pig here
I absolutely agree,Jones comes across as a pompous arrogant ass with his time limit bully tactics.unnecessary and unlikeable
Peter's time limit is an instant no from me. Someone gives me an arbitrary limit like that and my response is "Obviously you know that if I think about this deal I'll see it's a bad one so no. I won't play your game. Thank you very much"
He was joking.
still a dickmove power play
Cut off your nose to spite your face. I suspect you are not a business owner.
And counting down was just douchey.
I respect James. Even though his offer was rejected based on "not knowing him or his achievements" he still stood up and went over to shake his hand.
Gentlemanly stuff.
Big mistake from the entrepreneur, going in and not doing his homework on the dragons.....
@@bobstirling6885 yes, but he got two dragons here so maybe the better deal after all.
Peter Jones demands seriousness from the entrepreneurs, so he must show it himself. You do not give a man three minutes to decide. When offering, one must assume that he believes it is a good business.
Are you Chris Eubank?!
3-minute deadline :D Who does he think he is?
If he was in front of big players who are 100 times wealthier than him, he would be like a little puppy with its tails all curled in.
Hes worth nearly 500 million now
Chris Wainwright The guys only rich in tellicom because he took advantage.
This is their attitude. They hold the purse strings and do whatever they want. I didn't dislike rich ppl before but after watching many episodes of these shows I don't have a good feeling about them,
Peter is a bully, very self-centered. What an ignorant way of playing with time, with someone's livelihood on stake.
Be humble.
You don't know who you'll meet in the world of business there's bigger pricks than Peter. Peter did him a favour. But it was nice for the guy to have James to counter Peter.
+ Ruhel Production Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
@@SageTheRage Which is exactly why I would never go on that show. Anyone who tries to bully you into doing business is not someone I'd be keen on at all.
Intimidation should not be allowed in the den but that was what Peter was doing
Update: the dragons didn’t end up financing it - which seems to be a fairly common outcome on this show. I don’t know why or the particulars, but I’ve researched a few of these episodes and this is the second time I’ve seen the the dragon deal didn’t go through.
The product did really well for a while, especially in the USA, but after getting financing several times from other sources, the Bank pf Ireland refused them a loan to make the stock they needed to fill orders, and they had to liquidate and sell the patent. It appears that it’s not being made any more - there are 3 available on Amazon, but none from Bed Bath and Beyond, which was a major client at one point.
Many times they find out the reality of the integrity of the people, their finances, and the actual company, and find that it would not be something that can work out.
@@kevindunlap5525 that makes sense :)
3:04
What the hell happened there? First, they were impressed, then suddenly - *DRAMATIC MUSIC*.
"the dragons are intrigued........jamie is standing his ground" how much got cut out there? :S
Id have picked deborah and james. And told peter to get stuffed so rude
I’ve always thought that. He’s very courteous even to those who present silly ideas
peter jones, yet again, being manipulative...
The 3 minute thing was just for the cameras
The narration often lets the program down.
I understand that when a Dragon makes an offer and genuinely wants the business, they will fight for it by any means neccessery but out of all the strategies Peter has used to secure an investment, putting a timer on the Entrepreneur was a dirty move!
Very proud of him for getting in front of the Dragons and getting into business and especially for doing that in light of his stuttering! Inspiring!
These guys have every right to be proud of what they have achieved but the way the belittled this pretty nice guy during this pitch didn't seem to me to be very attractive qualities to their personalities.
Great idea, I dated a girl that when she was sunbathing she would
cover her face with a towel and her care of protection paid off and
she has aged so gracefully. I love the sun, but if anything needs to
be protected, it's your face and you'll love yourself for it later.
so you dated a chick with a slightly aged face and the body of a granny ... gj
Dave Scott
lol
btw who said anything about age ?
*****
how so?
because he is swearing like a twelve year old ?
buuuuuuurnnnn
You don't want to burn the old tallywhacker to a crisp - a sunshade of a furlong in length is called for...
Greedy Peter my enthusiasm for Peter is waning watching that. Some respect please.
He should have rejected Peter's offer once Debra gave him an offer, because Peter put him under the 3-minute time limit.
7.500 stores in the US before walking in, i would have said I'm sticking to 30% could initially do 40% but with targets met and investment returned come down to 30%
Peter's alter-ego shows clear in this episode, Jessop waits for no man.
I think I dimly recall seeing this product in a CVS, but it was a while back. I don't know if it still makes the summer rounds.
nice to see an irish lad do well
So many people in this programme and so many investments... how come I have never seen even one of those products in the retailers?
I see reggie reggie sauce everywhere
Theo Tefetus trollled that lad badly.
I you dislike that, you will hate mark cuban. He offers a 24 second shot clock till his offer expires. Shark Tank
Yeah, my response would have been "I'll take up James and Deborah on their offers. Peter, I wouldn't work with you if you were the only Dragon who made an offer after a stunt like that."
+Isomer Mashups Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
The deal never worked out and the dragons did not come on board. Cush'n Shade however did very well after this appearance on the show and got some very lucrative deals. However, they went into liquidation in 2012 and sold out the company when Banks would not finance them to meet letter of credit from a major retailer
its the irish accent, it just makes him sound confident
Peter, you're not Simon Cowell and you're not Gordon Ramsey. shut up.
That Dublin kid has been in a good few fights in his day, I see
I'd have told Peter to do one. That was very unfair putting a time limit on his offer.
Considering this was back in 2008... Oh wait, oh... I Googled Cush'n Shade and saw they still get sold on Amazon for £29.99 but having gone on companycheck.co.uk, I can see that they got dissolved.
I probably would give up to 60% equity to a dragon, I mean it's greedy for them, but if I'm an inventor there will always be other projects in the future. If the dragon's help means a success then why not. I'm sure I could cope with a little butt hurt if it meant I'd make money.
yeah, I wouldn't pick him just because he made that tactic. I wouldn't want to work with a bully like that, no way.
I called the number at the end but they gave me the cold shoulder!
Peter Jones has a damned cheek to put a three minute time limit on it. Of all the dragons, I find him the most pompous, arrogant and most in need of a slap. How dare he? Oh yeah, he dares because he's filthy rich and can treat people in need with disdain. Typical public schoolboy type. In a previous life he was probably King Henry VIII. I'd never get into bed with him over James Caan. But then, I'm not a multi-millionaire. Although I should be.
i thort tht idea was pretty good. id buy it
First time I've seen Deborah invest. I have yet to see Duncan invest in something though. Will have to watch some more videos and see!
that debra is probably a dragon to look at , but i take that all back
I LOVE Peter but this was an absolute NO from me. I would have declined immediately. It was disrespectful to the other dragons who did not even have time to make offers yet.
Also, it's a BBC programme, it doesn't have adverts. Very odd.
Don't know this is advertised in the UK but in Canada it's sold investing in a good idea but what it was initially was more of a take over. The dragons would see a great idea or product and would only invest for 51% of the company, it has since changed with the intro of new and different dragons but I suspect also either ratings dropped or fewer people wanted to come and pitch their idea or product if they new they would have to give away their company or both.
lol James at the end seemed really happy to pass on it
No, wrong again! :)
I was trying to be funny at your expense, but seriously. I think PJ made a bully move by putting a time constraint on him. If you are going to make a life changing decision, I'd think you'd want to know all the options before making a call? It is customary that all Dragons give their offers, so this was PJ being a dick.
I'd say: I'm sorry you put it that way, because I want the project to succeed and being rushed into an important decision like this will not work.
Peter Jones, shame on you. Pressuring someone like that is unforgivable. I suspect you sleep well at night. Hope the afterlife is as comfortable for you.
Andy Ward I was at private school with PJ as we called him back then, for a guy so talk he was the laughing stock of the showers - a real tiddler down yonder
you can tell that this guy used to play rugby !
duncan was out before anyone asked questions... oh dear
Duncan wants literally the easiest ride he can get from a deal. I mean I don't blame him, but it does make his presence on the show predictable.
No he wasn't lol this clip has just been edited u can tell because before he starts talking the presenter says he is holding up against the scrutiny of the them lol
The sort of cheap product you find in newspaper junk mail. Theo was totally correct in his summary.
Shark Tank in USA is waaay worse with the time constraints than Peter Jones was here in the Dragons' Den, especially Mr. Wonderful. He *SCREAMS* horrible insults during his countdown and his time limit will only be as *generous* as 30 seconds to begin with! Often times 2 and maybe 3 other sharks are also *demanding* an answer to THEIR offer at the same time as Mr. Wonderful. They don't scream like he does or hurl demeaning insults but pile on the pressure just the same. It is truly horrible and happens fairly routinely.
can't help but think only an irishman would come up with something like that..
I miss duncan on this show.
video is cut.
target only has 1500 outlets across USA ? doesnt sound right
I just would have told Peter that I'm not accepting his offer.Can you imagine this is the way this guy wants to start off a business relationship?What happens when he wants his investment back right away?Ok,it's been 5 days since I invested in you,I want my 50,000 pounds back in the next 3 minutes.Oh yeah I really want to work with someone like that!The dragons are assholes,you really find out what people are like when they are in a position where they don't have to be nice.
unfortunetly inventing things do not always make you the wealthiest...
I think there was a bit cut in there. :P
Lol it's weird hearing of target and CVS as unknown businesses cause both are literally around the corner
dont understand the hate for peter, remember, this is first and foremost a show and its his and all the dragons job to make it entertaining. Now i wouldnt have played a long with peters bullying, and he shouldnt have either, but you cant blame peter for trying to make this a little more interesting.
Why is Oswal Cobblepot selling beach accessories?
Your comment just made me cry.
@eoinroe47 exactly, isn't James the one who is the master of the holiday's and tourism sector in the den?
What a wacky contraption
I am tanning outside right now as I came upon this video. wtf
imagine if google saw you doing that and based the recommendation on that data!!!!! WTF
@Lomito Well, I don't think he wanted Theo on in the first place so there was no loss there.
Did he make a million by 2010?
That was not fair of Peter Jones at all shouldn't have been allowed out of order
It would have been a no brainer to discard peter and go for the other 2 when he started pratting about with time limits. Would have just been better to exclude him for doing that.
Bannatyne. Arrogant, harsh and short-sighted.
@partyhouse88 James caan is from Pakistan :) not from the middle east. just trying to correct you very politely :) hope you dont mind
Considering how the video was cut & edited, that 3 minute time limit was probably more like a whole afternoon with tea and triangle sandwichs at intervals to rehearse ....
That`s one thing i feel betrayed by; Live shows adapted & compiled of good bits for entertainment, which is obviously necessary but sort of steals from the essence or am I just too fucking stoned again?
Did he say kush? :)
3:19 "Yeah, give or take, yeah". Give or take how much? Did he mean to say "more or less"?
Dragons den: makes episodes on making $100000 deals
Mr beast: hey there here is $100000
I used to like Peter. After this video never again. "TIME" isn't a game.
I like cake
Peter "They buy any old fucking load of useless shit in America " Jones.
Actually hate that you can't criticize someone without being called a jealous hater. Grow up.
LOL, I was talking about you! :D
The contestants on this programme are usually terrible at negotiating the percentage down. "Would you be willing to consider lowering the percentage?" and such. Of course the dragons are going to say no. It has been much more effective on this programme to negotiate for an agreement where the percentage equity is lowered if they meet their projections.
Where is Jenny?
This guy's too much of a pushover to be a successful businessman, and Peter demonstrated this perfectly.
Yup, and a good business man that makes.
i quite like deborah ,cant believe i just wrote that !!
I like bannatyne. I respect him. Proper class businessman. Just can be such a prick at times
Whats up with the edit? There is no need to edit this show.
Im jenny... im so out i haven't even appeared for many years yet
I wouldn't have worked with Peter at all. Any business partner that tries to bully or intimidate you at the onset is not someone I'd be keen on. If he does it now, he'll continue to do so in future.
the kid shoudve went in there with a more business oriented negotiator. but good for him.
what a terrible negotiator
I was always a Peter Jones fan but this was really disappointing to see - People look for his support and advice because of his persona, this was a real negative turn to watch
Yeah, the presenter has football eyes. One at home one away!!
@ 10.08, wats up with his ear? it appears deformed or something.
I had an idea, for 2 years I was selling land on the moon, I was funding my lifestyle by selling my body to women like Babarah Meaden
+edward french Maybe you should get her name correct before selling her your ''body''
+Tarek Ammar People don't care about names when they pay for my body. Barek
hahaha last one made me laugh
They still trading, Ł29.99 on Amazon as of 2018
U gay
That's too expensive
sun bathing in the shade?... why not stay in the house
just thought it was ironic a canadian was dissing a show that canada copied
He must be into some kind of fighting, he has those fucked up ears.