00:00 Adnan's Intro 03:22 Razi’s Intro 04:50 Discussing rules 07:39 What sources are Hujjah? 09:12 Adnan throws Away Ibn Taymiyah (rh) proudly 11:54 Ilzami Jawab discussion & Adnan's Interruptions. Adnan throws away all ulema & claims no scholar OR scholars can be quoted as Hujjah 58:22 Topic #1: Did Isa (as) used to drink as per Hadrat Ahmad (as)? 1:37:38 Adnan avoiding taking an oath from Quran 1:44:00 Adnan not letting Razi choose 2nd topic (even though he chose the 1st) 1:54:00 Topic #2: Death of Isa (as) from Quran and Ahadith 2:30:00 Topic #3: Did Hadrat Ahmad (as) use questionable language in his writings? 3:06:00 Topic #4: Is there Ijmah in Khatme Nabuwwat? 3:32:00 Razi leaves because of the blasphemy of Adnan after the debate
Kya mazaak bana rakha hai yeh Qadiano neh yaar... Allah ka khauf nai hai inko.. Razi tu toh ek mazak ban gaya hai... Allah tumhe seedeh rah dekhai Ameen
Stop asking for akhira you have only hellfire bro js accept the truth, how can you deny the Quran and sunnah it's very clear that your so called prophet is fitnah.... And one more thing if you really are sincere about Islam than tell me when any prophet leaves dunya where will be his grave....
@@inayataimlbsnaa8121 when abu sufiyan said mohhd dont creat a new fitna we can not bare it we worship of tiise whom our ejder used to o worship always. Mohd said even you put sun on one hand and moon in other hand till I do propogate about my faith. Thst faith if mohd become firna for us
@@Guasid😂😂 Adnan just quoted from mirza's own words from Brheen e aahmdia that isa AS is alive in heaven and will come again....what's wrong with you people😂😂 and you and people like razi not even accepting your own prophet wordss
Notice how when razi speaks, adnan just looks around sometimes smiling or talking with his buddies or on his phone doing who knows what. And when adnan is speaking, razi pays so much attention that hes even making notes. Thats the difference. People like adnan dont listen and thats why their blind
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets). • Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu". • Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none??? • Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was? • Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one. • Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
Yes Mashih aood as believed that Jesus as was a drunkard. The wedding to Muhammad Begam was unchangeable like Quran Words. So we know what !! it caused many to quit the cult of true Islam.
lol adnan said look at all the papers you have all I have is my disciples. That basically summarizes these debates. He’s got no Quran or Hadith references for his views and Razi’s responses that use Quran and Hadith. I hope Allah guides these people and forgive them for the disrespect they show Hazrat Masih Maud AS.
Please read the answer: Haqiatul-wahi page 417 sign 147 tichi tichi angle talking to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Quadiani 16:17 . Is this islamic angle? Are you muslims? Where do you get this angle from and prove it.
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets). • Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu". • Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none??? • Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was? • Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one. • Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
@@PrayFirstPlayLater @SA-kz6zc You know the problem: Qadianis don't read mirza, it is we who preach them and show them the filth that is written in mirza's books!! In contrast, you exhibit a fear of engaging with Mirza's literary works and biography, opting instead to maintain ignorance and do taweel to his filth by all possible means, so as to somehow make him Eesa ibn Maryam... Your unquestioning loyalty to Qadiani beliefs is solely a consequence of your familial heritage, characterized by herd-like conformity!!
@@PrayFirstPlayLater keep on believing in a dajjal who lied on Prophet (saw) multiple times.... And keep on making fun of Ahadees of Rasool-Ullhah (saw)!
Assalam alaikum ww all point of information Adnan Rashid says " Us As Muslims" he must come out and declare his sect. Why he doesn't want to declare his sect because he wants support money from innocent Muslims 2 because he knows if he admits to any sect Razi sahb will give him references from his own scholar as a result he want to hide by saying us as Muslims. If he is a Aman let him admit his sect first. The holy prophet Muhammad saw said they will 73 sects so which one is Adnan Rashid sect?
The first hour of this is so very frustrating! I used to think Adnan Rashid's constant interupting was a deliberate tactic he used to stop anyone completing their thoughts and arguments but in this video he looks unable to control himself and is so focussed on what he has to say that he is unable to listen to what Razi is saying. I don't think Adnan Rashid heard OR understood half of what was being said.
"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah has full knowledge of all things." Surah Al-Ahzab (33:40)
Razi needs to debate mohammad hijab or somebody else now, we can clearly see that adnan can not defend other than just laughing and interfering to make his point valid.
This is such a shame that all they get from promised messiah as’s books are these false allegations. They miss the beautiful teachings of Quran and Islam. It is impossible to read his books and not fall in love with Allah and His book and His message.
We talk about religions but mostly Islam and challenge the fundamentals of religions through rational and philosophical arguments. We are a group of atheists/ex-muslims.
یہ شخص ادنان پہلے بھی جوتیاں کھا چکا ھے۔ مگر سب کچھ اس کی عقل سے بالا ھے۔ احمدیت حقیقی اسلام ھے۔ وہی اسلام جو رسول اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم نے ہمیں بتایا اور سکھایا ھے۔ الحمد للہ
"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding. "(Qu'ran 3:7) Ahmadiyya in a nutshell.
The truth is simple to understand whereas lies are complex and obfuscated. Adnan Rashid was clear in his arguments wheras Razi was confusing and all over the place
@@everythingandroidois Do I intimidate you? I pray that I don’t. I defend RasoolAllah (saw) and his Messiah Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). I have Allah and truth on my side, you and your kind peddle in deliberate misinformation through ignorance and lies and promote through fan boys. One party who are a minority defends Islam from nonsense while the other majority party continues its vile, blasphemous and vicious attacks. So yes you are the true definition of a fan boy, because you have no leadership and cling on to people like Adnan or Imtiaz and fan out. Alhumdolillah we are free from such personalities
@@SwordOfAllah7860first off, who said I support Adnan fully like a fanboy? I was merely responding to your response to another claiming he was a fanboy based on his response of merely saying Adnan was clear in his arguments. Stop with the lame responses. Based on your lazy assumption, I can merely claim you are clinging onto personalities like Razi. So what now? I made such a good point didn't I? That was the whole point of my previous response. Usually the one claiming others to be intimidated are the ones who are themselves intimidated. Our actual leader in terms of knowledge and final new prophet is RasulAllah (Sallalaahu 'alayhi wa salam).
Razi, May Allah guide me, you, and us all. Aameen! Adnan brother amazing, Razi has no way out, he's caught pants down. Adnan lashed it badly and nicely, crystal clear that Mirza cannot even be called a noble, a gentleman.
Adnan rasheed nailed it 😊 razi already lost when he could not answer basics .. 😢 sad for razi.. nobody can beat adnan rasheed with any debate whatsoever as he is the person on right path of and by Allah subhana wata ala
This video should instead be named as "Try not to cut Razi off challenge: IMPOSSIBLE" because Adnan clearly is uncapable of having a formal discussion let alone him being able to grasp the concept of double standard fallacy. Any iota of respect there was for Adnan is gone
Only watched first 30 mins, its so irritating and frustrating already because one person can literally not finish a sentence without being interrupted. May Allah give me sabr to see full video and not get frustrated because i gain knowledge from this and do my own research too if I didn't know something before. I don't know how Razi does with his immense patience...
This is deeply frustrating. Adnan is nonstop waffling, interrupting and overall rude. His conduct alone is proof enough how much these molvis are frustrated by Ahmadiyyat.
@@sincereman6939 Ahmadiyyat is Islam. Alhamdulillah. If you claim to be so sincere, then which books of ours have you read cover to cover? You're just as disingenuous as your Imam Adnan.
Keep running away from Qur'an and hadith till the day of judgment. It will always be there. Jesus as died from Qur'an and hadith you will always beat around the bush. Death is coming for all of us soon bro. Death is coming very very soon. What is another 60-70 years ? Nothing each year passes faster than the previous one till the angel of death comes. Then you will find out for real who is the Messiah for the ummah and who was the true follower of rasulullah saw@@a07ahmed
Adnan knows how to deal with you Qadiani's. You twist Qur'an and Hadeeth to distract from Mirza's character. Even in current debates Mirza's God Yalash and his angel Teechi Teechi hasn't helped you! Where is Yalash in Quran and Hadeeth and where is this Teechi Teechi? 😂
@@GeniusWaan please tell you've seen what Adnan said recently? He said even if he came from the sky with a white robe and nur on his face and even if he was the best of character and all prophecies fulfilled, I would still not believe. Just remember that this is the guy your following
Adnan manages to make this the least constructive debate of all time by presenting the most baseless argument about ilzami jawab without knowing how ilzami jawab works 👌🔥🔥 my guy is presenting absolutely nothing
You are deprived of simple logic and destined for hell for following and imposter who said Muhammadi Begam wedding was unchangeable like Quran Words. We, Muslims believe Quran Words do not change.. But you know what Mirza liar Words.....
@@muhammadtameemshah you don’t know yourself more than what allah knows about you so how do you know about that you pray more than me? You lack too much knowledge, this was too basic and you don’t even know this. Regardless Just pray brother and ask Allah swt to guide in regards to promised messiah. Jazakallah
brother you can't even set rule of debate then what we can do Basic rule is compare among equals 1. Murabbi compare to moulavi 2. Prophet compare to prophet
You can check your Ahmadi brothers who are routinely being destroyed by our scholars because you are not able to defend your Mirza with his writings what a shame this is...
Adnan's playbook: 1. Invent your own criteria and definitions -- Adnan will take words and speech out of context even if clarifying comments exist from Hadrat Ahmad (as), and then judge against his own criteria. This way Adnan establishes an unfalsifiable claim. To counter this it's insufficient to give clarifications, rather you have to challenge the false criteria he establishes. 2. Speak to the audience, not your opponent -- Adnan does not talk to the opponent, or even if he does, he frequently turns to the audience to "explain" to them what's happening. This gives him an opportunity to reframe what his opponent says in his own wording, leaving the audience with his view over the view of his opponent. By connecting with the audience he appears more persuasive as well. 3. Exaggerate, mock, caricature -- There is ilzami jawab then there is what Adnan does as a performance artist: he will exaggerate or mock or caricature. His explanations in this way add levity, connect him with the audience, and gives another opportunity to reframe and persuade. 4. Interrupt, cut-off, and talk over your opponent -- If all else fails, just be louder than the other. Talk over them, cut them off, make your point more loudly and more forcefully. Adnan is a street performer more than a scholar. He has very specific strategies that serve him well in street debates and informal discussions. One has to understand these strategies in order to counter them. Scholarly arguments on their own won't suffice.
Adnan is so frustrating to debate with, this man still hasn’t read a single book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) yet sits there with his chest puffed out as if he is some great Alim and expert on the subject matter. The saying “The Emperor Has No Clothes” describes him perfectly. (Sorry for any visuals).
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets). • Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu". • Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none??? • Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was? • Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one. • Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs You never read a book of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. You just copy and paste something someone else wrote. You didn't verify any of your claims or know the context of anything.
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs And yes. Alhamdulillah for not believing in your fairy tale version of the beautiful religion of Islam. You literally believe Jesus is with Allah swt in heaven. May Allah swt forgive you. Alhamdulillah for accepting al Mahdi and Khilafah.
A few minutes into the debate, the first thing you see is that Mr. Adnan always changes the goal post according to his terms so that later he can say he won the debate because Razi sahib didn't respond to what he was saying. However, this is the most ridiculous aspect when debating. You have to address the topic at hand and argue in favor of your point with evidence, not offer a different point altogether that is not even addressing the topic. Humble advice, these debates should be moderated by a non-bias person, otherwise people like Mr Adnan who do not oblige by the rules will keep doing this.
Adnan asking for rules then breaking them constantly. For Razi it's hardly possible to say half a sentence before being cut off. I have got much respect for the patience he has.
You guys got no rules you run from here to there to try justify mirza if you really believed in Allah swt and tge quran you wouldn't 2nd guess it on mirza say so the man who claims anything and everything then when questioned he denies it
You don't follow basic rule of comparison among equals 1.Our ulema are not masoom, may Allah forgive their mistakes and grant him Jannah 2 . Your claim Mirza is prophet (masoom), then his every action can be questionable. If you can't defend your prophet character,then what kind of Ummah you are
@@shabraanhussain8297If you’re making fun of someone’s illness don’t forget Allah is watching you. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w was also very ill in his last days. May Allah give you and Adnan Rashid Hidayat
45 minutes in and Adnan is being destroyed by himself. His interruptions, multiple double standards, not paying attention to Razi, allowing rules to be broken (that he himself set)... encouraging the rule breakers, and many other things. On top of that Razi is destroying him and his logic over and over, just because Adnan is speaking more and louder does not make him right. Adnan is hiding and running from the debate and topic at hand by using interruptions, attacking character, beign dismissive, misrepresenting facts, posing double standards, and much much more.
We can't have another Razi again. He's The only one who can do this brilliant mind about Islam Ahmadiiyya, he has the ability to answer all the allegations from this dangerous ulama
And you are not blind and calling a person prophet who is clearly have abusive language ??Adnan quoted everything from MIrza'e own writings and razi even don't responded that
At1:06:52 it is very clear that Adnan Rashid is not listening to Razi but is preparing his own response. Dialogue requires LISTENING as well as speaking Adnan!!
In another hand good that there is a people like Adnan, because they are also helping to spread the true teachings of Islam in details among other people, Alhamdulillah! Ahmadiyyat is the True Islam! Razi SB may Allah bless U ❤
The most important rule of a debate is giving time on each others respond without interruption. Yet everytime razi's time to respond or answer Adnan will interrupt continuesly.
For 45 minutes Adnan accuses Ahmadis and Hadhrat Ahmad (as) to believe Hadhrat Isa (as) was a drinker etc. Razi continually says how this is NOT the belief of Ahmad (as), rather it is an argument to show to the Christians that their “Son of God” according to their own scripture is a drinker etc. Then at 45:12 What staunch hyprocrisy from Adnan. Adnan then says the EXACT defense Ahmadi’s are using. and that is, OF COURSE Kairanawi doesn’t believe those things! It is ilzami jawab. But when it comes to Ahmadis, this defense to Adnan seems to be insufficient, yet he uses it himself. I’m glad Razi didn’t let this point go. 45:12 is extremely telling for the double standard Adnan holds and the extents he will go just to make Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) look bad.
Hum ne bhi study ki har ahmagiyya ki ir musalmanon ki bhi mera tajlya hae ke do mohd aae haen aik Ahmadiyyon ka doosra in musalmanon ka ahmsfiyyon ka mohd to unko insaan bana gita. Inka mohd inko Janwar bana Hiya bad farq ye hae mien manta hi bhi gar ke sik mohd ko manne wxke itne kool kholi je jhoot ke naafrat ke khilaaf. Doosre musqlmaano ja mohd unko tdkear pdkhta Hiya ke jo ud ko na bxne us ja jatfl jo baan ke chhoirh hae yd ja jatal jo ud je khilaaf baat jar de us ja jdtfl murza qadiani je jhikaaf har raz musalmaam gustakhi karte garm jabhimirzaiyon ne ho kisi ka katal nahi kiya mante fino mohd ko hi har phir itna barha farak kese
@@fouzanzilli1540 yes, for one of the examples Adnan pulls up, its to the Muslims who began to take up CHRISTIAN beliefs. when you read the context before and after the quotes Adnan pulls up, you can see how much he likes to play around with quotes. so, it was to those Muslims who began to drink and act immorally, and they would justify it by saying “Oh Isa as did it too”.
@@fouzanzilli1540 after ki iyamsg hour kuraxn and b mohd remain lair raxi is opening the eyes of you and your tyoe of muslim I stringky believe guru nanak ji maharaj guru gobind singh ji maharaj both are in the heaven. And day we ill come before the kiyamdt. Think and say it us not possible. Then how possible issa in tte sky mohd sent to usda alive in the sky and waiting to him from sky itt d us big big lie of mohd he is a hazzab. Mire then 1000 lies of mohd are endorse in hadees and kuraan how lair can be a nabi Yiu ssys ut us written in kuraan. Kuraan us fire Yiu and fir ahmsdies fir us Kuraan is a zero book
Marshallah marshallah subhanallah: well done to Razi for a marvellous defence of the Quran and Sunnah; and for pointing out the continuous and numerous misrepresentations that Adnan makes; whether this was deliberate or out of sheer ignorance : Allah knows best.
According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, the Ahmadiyya movement is the fastest growing Islamic group as of the early 21st century. The country with the largest Ahmadiyya population is Pakistan, with an estimated 4 million Ahmadi Muslims.The truth is prevailing. Alhamdulillah
If i was to say to non-ahmadi's that my name is: Athar Age is 40 Color is brown Etc etc. They will say no you are lying even after telling them the truth. We say we are Muslims (Ahmadi) they say no.🤯🤕 Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s books clearly state's his own positions and non-ahmadi's say no thats not what Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s means. Its like telling a mechanic you are not a mechanic. Non-ahmadi's please look at the Prophecy that was fulfilled by Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of lunar & solar eclipse that was supposed to be for the Medhi. Also look at the Prophecy of the plague in India that was Prophesied by Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s. Honest and reasonable person can never deny the truthfulness of Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s., please do your own research.
I'm from the Sunni Ahle Hadith sect, but I totally agree with Chief Justice Faiz's call on the Ahmadi Jamaat issue. If we let groups like Shia and Barelvi practice freely, even though they do things we might see as silly or involve worshipping others besides God and biddat in Islam and their baba's claim the respect of like Prophets, then why pick on just the Ahmadi Jamaat? Either shut down all these non-sense groups and sects or let everyone practice their beliefs in peace and respect, and we are no one to judge anybody's Islam it is a personal thing..
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets). • Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu". • Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none??? • Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was? • Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one. • Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs Alhumdolillah Ahmadis are free from your false fairytale beliefs and following of Jahil Mullahs like Adnan and Imtiaz (to name a few)
@@mirza3709952 I think the only noise was being made by Razi, trying to dodge questions with theres a 'difference in opinion' or 'look at what your people said', 'look at what you say about Isa'. Defend your nabi on the stand, stop pointing fingers. Defend him, prove it. But nothing is convincing anyone on following that Kuffar Randibaaz, stop glorifying him. He was noone, let the poor basturd rest in peace stop doing this Mirza Mirza drama. The foul mouth on that guy talking shit about prophets thinking he's one so it's allowed.
Razi MashAllah handled himself with dignity, even towards the end he sat and spoke and finalised his thoughts. Verbalised what he took issue with and kept it moving. You can see whose mature and sincere and whose not. Adnans doing a great job of turning people away from his point of view.
Adnan’s Kryptonite the death of Isa (as). Look how he runs away from this topic but wants to discuss prostitutes and alcohol. One has to assume he is a subject matter expert on the latter and not the former. My comment is an example of Ilzami Jawab Adnan 😉
He isn't dead, only kafirs think he's dead. When the Qur'an says "THEY DID NOT KILL HIM NOR DID THEY CRUCIFY HIM" WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF NOT BEING KILLED? THERE U GO QUR'AN SAYS HE'S ALIVE
Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim and there is no Nabi and rasool after Beloved' Muhammad S.A.W,( Peace and blessings of ALLAHA upon him). But here Adnan is just dodging.
Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalamin I am ahmadi Muslim Jamaat, this discussion revealed that Adnan do not have base, he only inherited hatred devoid of facta
Really disappointed on the WAY it was conducted. BOTH of you must have a SALITH (3rd Person as an Anchor) in order to maintain the DECORUM of discussion. Furthermore, TIME must be evenly divided between both the debaters in FUTURE discussions please ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! ! My Salute for all the TRUTH Lovers. Al-hamduLILLAH عزوجل ! ! !
What is Adnan and Imtiaz’s obsession with Alcohol and Prostitutes? Are they self projecting? Why are they subject matter experts in this field? Have they been researching this first hand? They have talked about this topic so much that even cities like Amsterdam and Las Vegas have inquired if they can consult with them. (Another example of Ilzami jawab Adnan 😉)
If we read Quran and all previous book opponents of prophet always do allegations especially when we compare the hazmat Issa AS and hazmat massy Mahood AS that time Jews had same allegations which today opponents of hazmat Mirza sb AS making today ,his life ,his birth ,his death .
آپ کا بار بار سر کو دائیں بائیں مارنا ۔۔۔۔ اور دیگر حرکات اس بات کی دلیل ہیں کہ آپ سننے والوں کی توجہ رضی صاحب سے ہٹانا چاہتے تھے ۔۔۔۔ یار !!! کہاں سے یہ تربیت لیتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔ ایک مناظر یا عالم کو ایسی حرکات سے پاک ہونا چاہیے ۔۔۔ بالکل پاک ۔۔۔ آپ اس علمی بحث میں ایک بچے کی طرح انتہائی غیر سنجیدہ حرکتیں کرتے نظر آ رہے ہیں
@@user-nx5be4sw6w Firstly he did not, it is clear you have bought into the lies of Adnan. Secondly why are you describing Isa (as) as if he is the same as RasoolAllah (saw)? Why this excessive love for him and not RasoolAllah (saw)?
@@user-nx5be4sw6w brother he never did. Anytime the Muslims needed someone to defend Islam and the Holy Prophet (saw) from other religions. They called him right away for a response. Everyone even those who didn’t believe in him accept that he was a champion defender for Islam.
Adnan is literally petrified to talk about the death of Isa (as). He will sit all day for hours lying on the name of Messiah Maud (AS) but hates to go near the death of Isa (AS) because he knows that once it’s proven he can’t do anything. He’s blindly awaiting someone who has died, that’s the sad truth of Adnan and all his friends.
It can be seen that this Molvi Adnan doesn't know what real Islam or its teachings are, thats why he is unable to reply properly. Holy Prophet of Islam has said that a time will come when the Ulemaa (Mullah) of his Ummah will be the worst Creature Under the skies. That time has come and the prediction of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH has been proven true. Subhan Allah.
Razi has deleted all other comments and if my comment will be deleted too I will post the screen shot of my comment now and after it will be deleted to show how twisted and scared Razi is for Mirza
Clearly you don't. Khatme nabuwat is very easy to understand Muhammad SAW is the seal of the prophets. No where does the Qur'an or the hadith for the matter change this. I know your counter to this would be but Isaa AS has a second coming. Chronologically Isaa PBUH came before Muhammad PBUH. "The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols. And indeed there shall be thirty imposters in my Ummah,each of them claiming that he is a Prophet. And I am the last of the Prophets, there is no Prophet after me. Jami at tirmidhi 2219, grade - Sahih.
00:00 Adnan's Intro
03:22 Razi’s Intro
04:50 Discussing rules
07:39 What sources are Hujjah?
09:12 Adnan throws Away Ibn Taymiyah (rh) proudly
11:54 Ilzami Jawab discussion & Adnan's Interruptions. Adnan throws away all ulema & claims no scholar OR scholars can be quoted as Hujjah
58:22 Topic #1: Did Isa (as) used to drink as per Hadrat Ahmad (as)?
1:37:38 Adnan avoiding taking an oath from Quran
1:44:00 Adnan not letting Razi choose 2nd topic (even though he chose the 1st)
1:54:00 Topic #2: Death of Isa (as) from Quran and Ahadith
2:30:00 Topic #3: Did Hadrat Ahmad (as) use questionable language in his writings?
3:06:00 Topic #4: Is there Ijmah in Khatme Nabuwwat?
3:32:00 Razi leaves because of the blasphemy of Adnan after the debate
jazakallah
Thanks for breaking down, I was tired of Adnon
Kya mazaak bana rakha hai yeh Qadiano neh yaar... Allah ka khauf nai hai inko.. Razi tu toh ek mazak ban gaya hai... Allah tumhe seedeh rah dekhai Ameen
Razi bai don't waste your precious time in the futile discussion with ignorant and jahil people like
Adnon ji
@@saduvhora1424stop ignoring Quran and Sunnah like your Mullah Adnan
More people must discover this channel Ahmadi answers
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Thank you for your work Razi Bhai! May Allah bless you with the dunya and the akhira!
Stop asking for akhira you have only hellfire bro js accept the truth, how can you deny the Quran and sunnah it's very clear that your so called prophet is fitnah.... And one more thing if you really are sincere about Islam than tell me when any prophet leaves dunya where will be his grave....
@@inayataimlbsnaa8121 Who are you to decide who will get the akhira and who does not!? Ya mushrik!
Read the quran, Hadhrat Isa as is dead!
@@inayataimlbsnaa8121 when abu sufiyan said mohhd dont creat a new fitna we can not bare it we worship of tiise whom our ejder used to o worship always. Mohd said even you put sun on one hand and moon in other hand till I do propogate about my faith. Thst faith if mohd become firna for us
@@inayataimlbsnaa8121stupid
@@Guasid😂😂 Adnan just quoted from mirza's own words from Brheen e aahmdia that isa AS is alive in heaven and will come again....what's wrong with you people😂😂 and you and people like razi not even accepting your own prophet wordss
AhmadiAnswer Heroe Very Brave 🔥
Notice how when razi speaks, adnan just looks around sometimes smiling or talking with his buddies or on his phone doing who knows what. And when adnan is speaking, razi pays so much attention that hes even making notes. Thats the difference. People like adnan dont listen and thats why their blind
Yeh he doesn't listen to 💩
Mirza ghulam 💩
Better not to listen then twist the quran and the teaching like razi
adnan is a coward liar, he looking for likes from jahil and an educated people. what a sad personality.
Razi has great patience. Razi kept getting interrupted only because Adnan knows that as soon as he speaks he will win the debate
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets).
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu".
• Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none???
• Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was?
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one.
• Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
Good try. Keep going. It's cute MashAllah @@HarisKhan-ld9rs
the more i saw the more i realised that adnan is nothing infront of islam ahmaddiyat. but dont laugh on him, please pity him..😂
Yes Mashih aood as believed that Jesus as was a drunkard. The wedding to Muhammad Begam was unchangeable like Quran Words. So we know what !! it caused many to quit the cult of true Islam.
Love you Razi, you are great man.
lol adnan said look at all the papers you have all I have is my disciples. That basically summarizes these debates. He’s got no Quran or Hadith references for his views and Razi’s responses that use Quran and Hadith. I hope Allah guides these people and forgive them for the disrespect they show Hazrat Masih Maud AS.
Please read the answer: Haqiatul-wahi page 417 sign 147 tichi tichi angle talking to Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Quadiani 16:17 . Is this islamic angle? Are you muslims? Where do you get this angle from and prove it.
Legend. Absolute Legend Razi Bhai.
Poor Adnan , Mirza Mirza Mirza . No understanding of the Quran and Hadith. Razi nailed him. Alhamdolilah.
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets).
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu".
• Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none???
• Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was?
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one.
• Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
Still??? Go take a rest. @@HarisKhan-ld9rs
@@PrayFirstPlayLater @SA-kz6zc You know the problem:
Qadianis don't read mirza, it is we who preach them and show them the filth that is written in mirza's books!!
In contrast, you exhibit a fear of engaging with Mirza's literary works and biography, opting instead to maintain ignorance and do taweel to his filth by all possible means, so as to somehow make him Eesa ibn Maryam...
Your unquestioning loyalty to Qadiani beliefs is solely a consequence of your familial heritage, characterized by herd-like conformity!!
@@HarisKhan-ld9rskeep waiting for something that has already happened. Good luck.
@@PrayFirstPlayLater keep on believing in a dajjal who lied on Prophet (saw) multiple times.... And keep on making fun of Ahadees of Rasool-Ullhah (saw)!
Jazakallah khair ❤️🌹🇵🇸
Assalam alaikum ww all point of information Adnan Rashid says " Us As Muslims" he must come out and declare his sect. Why he doesn't want to declare his sect because he wants support money from innocent Muslims 2 because he knows if he admits to any sect Razi sahb will give him references from his own scholar as a result he want to hide by saying us as Muslims. If he is a Aman let him admit his sect first. The holy prophet Muhammad saw said they will 73 sects so which one is Adnan Rashid sect?
The first hour of this is so very frustrating! I used to think Adnan Rashid's constant interupting was a deliberate tactic he used to stop anyone completing their thoughts and arguments but in this video he looks unable to control himself and is so focussed on what he has to say that he is unable to listen to what Razi is saying. I don't think Adnan Rashid heard OR understood half of what was being said.
Ahmadiyyat zindabad ❤❤❤
First read your Rohani khazaian then say this......
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"Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah has full knowledge of all things."
Surah Al-Ahzab (33:40)
Razi the lion,may allah give him everything.Inshallah
That's why he can't defend his prophet honer
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@@zakku1232perfect brother he cant defend a false liar ghulam😅
In ahmadi supporting the British empire was a great thing
Where are your proofs? Present them so we cna else something new ourselves.
Razi needs to debate mohammad hijab or somebody else now, we can clearly see that adnan can not defend other than just laughing and interfering to make his point valid.
Adnan Rasheed end him 2 mints ...Hijab will finish him only 30 sec ....😂😂
Adnan totally destroyed and burried, its a pity that Adnan and Imtiaz never discuss Quran and Hadith.
This is such a shame that all they get from promised messiah as’s books are these false allegations. They miss the beautiful teachings of Quran and Islam. It is impossible to read his books and not fall in love with Allah and His book and His message.
MashaAllah love you Razi
Adnan is a disrespectful so kick him out
We talk about religions but mostly Islam and challenge the fundamentals of religions through rational and philosophical arguments. We are a group of atheists/ex-muslims.
یہ شخص ادنان پہلے بھی جوتیاں کھا چکا ھے۔ مگر سب کچھ اس کی عقل سے بالا ھے۔
احمدیت حقیقی اسلام ھے۔ وہی اسلام جو رسول اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم نے ہمیں بتایا اور سکھایا ھے۔ الحمد للہ
"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah. But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding. "(Qu'ran 3:7)
Ahmadiyya in a nutshell.
The truth is simple to understand whereas lies are complex and obfuscated. Adnan Rashid was clear in his arguments wheras Razi was confusing and all over the place
Said like a true Adnan Rashid fan boy
@@SwordOfAllah7860like you aren't a Razi fanboy. Spamming everywhere Lol
@@everythingandroidois Do I intimidate you? I pray that I don’t. I defend RasoolAllah (saw) and his Messiah Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). I have Allah and truth on my side, you and your kind peddle in deliberate misinformation through ignorance and lies and promote through fan boys. One party who are a minority defends Islam from nonsense while the other majority party continues its vile, blasphemous and vicious attacks. So yes you are the true definition of a fan boy, because you have no leadership and cling on to people like Adnan or Imtiaz and fan out. Alhumdolillah we are free from such personalities
@@SwordOfAllah7860first off, who said I support Adnan fully like a fanboy? I was merely responding to your response to another claiming he was a fanboy based on his response of merely saying Adnan was clear in his arguments. Stop with the lame responses.
Based on your lazy assumption, I can merely claim you are clinging onto personalities like Razi. So what now? I made such a good point didn't I? That was the whole point of my previous response. Usually the one claiming others to be intimidated are the ones who are themselves intimidated.
Our actual leader in terms of knowledge and final new prophet is RasulAllah (Sallalaahu 'alayhi wa salam).
@@everythingandroidois 😂 look at you throwing Adnan under the bus now and trying to disown him. To late, you smell just like him, rotten
Razi, May Allah guide me, you, and us all. Aameen!
Adnan brother amazing, Razi has no way out, he's caught pants down. Adnan lashed it badly and nicely, crystal clear that Mirza cannot even be called a noble, a gentleman.
Adnan rasheed nailed it 😊 razi already lost when he could not answer basics .. 😢 sad for razi.. nobody can beat adnan rasheed with any debate whatsoever as he is the person on right path of and by Allah subhana wata ala
Ahmadi’s are not muslims
Alhamdulilah 🌹❤️🇵🇸
Munafiq ADNAN: This is not the speakers corner where you can dominate. You are facing a person who is way more knowledgeable than any of you
Razi please debate someone else. This is almost unmatchable. (This gentleman follows no rules of debate or even polite discourse).
Rohani khazaian 😂😂😂😂 dast dast dast .... Bhai yeh koun sa Nabi hai tum logun ka sirf dast dast dast( diarrhea diarrhea)😅😅😅😅
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This video should instead be named as "Try not to cut Razi off challenge: IMPOSSIBLE" because Adnan clearly is uncapable of having a formal discussion let alone him being able to grasp the concept of double standard fallacy. Any iota of respect there was for Adnan is gone
Adnan always cuts off Razi Sahib. Can he not listen to Razi Sahib first
Only watched first 30 mins, its so irritating and frustrating already because one person can literally not finish a sentence without being interrupted. May Allah give me sabr to see full video and not get frustrated because i gain knowledge from this and do my own research too if I didn't know something before. I don't know how Razi does with his immense patience...
This is deeply frustrating. Adnan is nonstop waffling, interrupting and overall rude. His conduct alone is proof enough how much these molvis are frustrated by Ahmadiyyat.
May allah guide sincere ahmadi to islam. Ameen🤲
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
@@sincereman6939don’t forget to send la3na curse on Mirza Gulam the dajal brother
@@sincereman6939 Ahmadiyyat is Islam. Alhamdulillah. If you claim to be so sincere, then which books of ours have you read cover to cover? You're just as disingenuous as your Imam Adnan.
Yes bro, this is what he always did and he is so coward not want to explain opponent his view
It’s so funny - Adnan called Razi for a discussion (to get views) and then is incapable of having a civilised discussion.
Brother Razis patience is just inspirational
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
Wow what an inspiration he is who even can't defend his own nabi with his writings 😅😅😅😅😅
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Razi comes with Quran and Hadith on wafat e Masih. Adnon comes back with Mirza, Mirza,Mirza.
No Ayah or Hadith response .
To you, Mirza's words are prophetic. So why would he not? It's Hadith for you.
Keep running away from Qur'an and hadith till the day of judgment. It will always be there. Jesus as died from Qur'an and hadith you will always beat around the bush. Death is coming for all of us soon bro. Death is coming very very soon. What is another 60-70 years ? Nothing each year passes faster than the previous one till the angel of death comes. Then you will find out for real who is the Messiah for the ummah and who was the true follower of rasulullah saw@@a07ahmed
Adnan knows how to deal with you Qadiani's. You twist Qur'an and Hadeeth to distract from Mirza's character. Even in current debates Mirza's God Yalash and his angel Teechi Teechi hasn't helped you! Where is Yalash in Quran and Hadeeth and where is this Teechi Teechi? 😂
@@GeniusWaan please tell you've seen what Adnan said recently? He said even if he came from the sky with a white robe and nur on his face and even if he was the best of character and all prophecies fulfilled, I would still not believe. Just remember that this is the guy your following
Because There is nothing linking mirza with the Quran and sunnah
Adnan manages to make this the least constructive debate of all time by presenting the most baseless argument about ilzami jawab without knowing how ilzami jawab works 👌🔥🔥 my guy is presenting absolutely nothing
You are deprived of simple logic and destined for hell for following and imposter who said Muhammadi Begam wedding was unchangeable like Quran Words. We, Muslims believe Quran Words do not change.. But you know what Mirza liar Words.....
The sign of someone who is losing: he will start mockery by smiling and laughing because he has no argument.
And shaking his feet several times
@@muhammadtameemshah pray to Allah with sincere heart and find out. Jazakallah
@@muhammadtameemshah you don’t know yourself more than what allah knows about you so how do you know about that you pray more than me? You lack too much knowledge, this was too basic and you don’t even know this. Regardless Just pray brother and ask Allah swt to guide in regards to promised messiah. Jazakallah
Mirza mocked and lied upon Jesus pbuh
@@muhammadtameemshah So you aint Muslim coz you believe in a prophet after the Holy Prophet SAW?
I am so disappointed in adnan rashid, he wastes times and his friends act so disrepectful.
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
brother you can't even set rule of debate then what we can do
Basic rule is compare among equals
1. Murabbi compare to moulavi
2. Prophet compare to prophet
You can check your Ahmadi brothers who are routinely being destroyed by our scholars because you are not able to defend your Mirza with his writings what a shame this is...
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Adnan's playbook:
1. Invent your own criteria and definitions -- Adnan will take words and speech out of context even if clarifying comments exist from Hadrat Ahmad (as), and then judge against his own criteria. This way Adnan establishes an unfalsifiable claim. To counter this it's insufficient to give clarifications, rather you have to challenge the false criteria he establishes.
2. Speak to the audience, not your opponent -- Adnan does not talk to the opponent, or even if he does, he frequently turns to the audience to "explain" to them what's happening. This gives him an opportunity to reframe what his opponent says in his own wording, leaving the audience with his view over the view of his opponent. By connecting with the audience he appears more persuasive as well.
3. Exaggerate, mock, caricature -- There is ilzami jawab then there is what Adnan does as a performance artist: he will exaggerate or mock or caricature. His explanations in this way add levity, connect him with the audience, and gives another opportunity to reframe and persuade.
4. Interrupt, cut-off, and talk over your opponent -- If all else fails, just be louder than the other. Talk over them, cut them off, make your point more loudly and more forcefully.
Adnan is a street performer more than a scholar. He has very specific strategies that serve him well in street debates and informal discussions. One has to understand these strategies in order to counter them. Scholarly arguments on their own won't suffice.
Adnan is so frustrating to debate with, this man still hasn’t read a single book of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) yet sits there with his chest puffed out as if he is some great Alim and expert on the subject matter. The saying “The Emperor Has No Clothes” describes him perfectly. (Sorry for any visuals).
I normally view him as a type of Abu Jahil because of his ignorance and evil tendencies. But "Emperor Has No Clothes" actually fits him very well.
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets).
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu".
• Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none???
• Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was?
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one.
• Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs Alhumdolillah Ahmadis are free from your nonsensical fairytale beliefs.
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs You never read a book of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. You just copy and paste something someone else wrote. You didn't verify any of your claims or know the context of anything.
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs And yes. Alhamdulillah for not believing in your fairy tale version of the beautiful religion of Islam. You literally believe Jesus is with Allah swt in heaven. May Allah swt forgive you. Alhamdulillah for accepting al Mahdi and Khilafah.
A few minutes into the debate, the first thing you see is that Mr. Adnan always changes the goal post according to his terms so that later he can say he won the debate because Razi sahib didn't respond to what he was saying. However, this is the most ridiculous aspect when debating. You have to address the topic at hand and argue in favor of your point with evidence, not offer a different point altogether that is not even addressing the topic.
Humble advice, these debates should be moderated by a non-bias person, otherwise people like Mr Adnan who do not oblige by the rules will keep doing this.
Adnan asking for rules then breaking them constantly. For Razi it's hardly possible to say half a sentence before being cut off. I have got much respect for the patience he has.
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
At least he has some rules….u guys will bring Shakespeare to defend ur Mirza Ghulam Qadiani …the false Prophet
@@hamidess11 What rules? Ibn Taymiyya is now irrelevant?
You guys got no rules you run from here to there to try justify mirza if you really believed in Allah swt and tge quran you wouldn't 2nd guess it on mirza say so the man who claims anything and everything then when questioned he denies it
You don't follow basic rule of comparison among equals
1.Our ulema are not masoom, may Allah forgive their mistakes and grant him Jannah
2 . Your claim Mirza is prophet (masoom), then his every action can be questionable.
If you can't defend your prophet character,then what kind of Ummah you are
razi is very knowledgeable admit it.
Please increase your knowledge by reading your book haqiatul,whi page 417 sign 147 tichi tichi angle talking to your beloved.
Adnan shaking his legs😂 Rizi bro shake the nervous system of Adnan
@AHSAN1910_ atleast he's not going to the bathroom 100 x...😅😅
@@shabraanhussain8297If you’re making fun of someone’s illness don’t forget Allah is watching you. Prophet Muhammad s.a.w was also very ill in his last days. May Allah give you and Adnan Rashid Hidayat
RAZI: WE HAVE QUR'AN AND SUNNAH
ALSO RAZI: GIVES A EXPLANATION WHY HE ISN'T USING THE QUR'AN AND SUNNAH 😂😂😂
Mirza died in toilet 🤡
That's why he shit in his followers head
45 minutes in and Adnan is being destroyed by himself. His interruptions, multiple double standards, not paying attention to Razi, allowing rules to be broken (that he himself set)... encouraging the rule breakers, and many other things. On top of that Razi is destroying him and his logic over and over, just because Adnan is speaking more and louder does not make him right. Adnan is hiding and running from the debate and topic at hand by using interruptions, attacking character, beign dismissive, misrepresenting facts, posing double standards, and much much more.
We can't have another Razi again. He's The only one who can do this brilliant mind about Islam Ahmadiiyya, he has the ability to answer all the allegations from this dangerous ulama
Why should we even debate this, there is no such thing as Ahmadi in Islam. Stop getting delusional.
Adnan Bhai thank you so much you give us proof for truth of Ahmadiyyat
Alhamdulillah
Adnan is sooo blind I feel so sorry for him 😢
And you are not blind and calling a person prophet who is clearly have abusive language ??Adnan quoted everything from MIrza'e own writings and razi even don't responded that
Adnan's argument against Hazrat Ahmad (as) has sounded like those who reject Hazrat Muhammad (saw). He should start naming his new sect soon.
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He is looking fame sadly he has not learned the lesson of those who tried before him he is stepping on hot plate it is a matter of time.
@@ahmadiyyamuslimconvert6363 May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
@ahmadiyyamuaik bast hi sach manta hoon jid jus ne ahnadiyyon se panga liya xalilo khuaaf to huaa hi koi baad mirn koi pehle huaa zaroor hae
@@muhammadtameemshah send la3na upon him brother he is worse than a liar he is a cursed dajal
At1:06:52 it is very clear that Adnan Rashid is not listening to Razi but is preparing his own response. Dialogue requires LISTENING as well as speaking Adnan!!
In another hand good that there is a people like Adnan, because they are also helping to spread the true teachings of Islam in details among other people, Alhamdulillah! Ahmadiyyat is the True Islam! Razi SB may Allah bless U ❤
Adnan rejects everyone, he starting a new sect soon! 😂
We can see clearly how adnan rashid destroy qadiyanis but qadianis still claiming for win
The most important rule of a debate is giving time on each others respond without interruption. Yet everytime razi's time to respond or answer Adnan will interrupt continuesly.
How does Razi have so much patience? Adnan is just blabbering and so disrespectful. He seems insane.
For 45 minutes Adnan accuses Ahmadis and Hadhrat Ahmad (as) to believe Hadhrat Isa (as) was a drinker etc. Razi continually says how this is NOT the belief of Ahmad (as), rather it is an argument to show to the Christians that their “Son of God” according to their own scripture is a drinker etc.
Then at 45:12
What staunch hyprocrisy from Adnan.
Adnan then says the EXACT defense Ahmadi’s are using. and that is, OF COURSE Kairanawi doesn’t believe those things! It is ilzami jawab. But when it comes to Ahmadis, this defense to Adnan seems to be insufficient, yet he uses it himself.
I’m glad Razi didn’t let this point go. 45:12 is extremely telling for the double standard Adnan holds and the extents he will go just to make Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) look bad.
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
Hum ne bhi study ki har ahmagiyya ki ir musalmanon ki bhi mera tajlya hae ke do mohd aae haen aik Ahmadiyyon ka doosra in musalmanon ka ahmsfiyyon ka mohd to unko insaan bana gita. Inka mohd inko Janwar bana Hiya bad farq ye hae mien manta hi bhi gar ke sik mohd ko manne wxke itne kool kholi je jhoot ke naafrat ke khilaaf. Doosre musqlmaano ja mohd unko tdkear pdkhta Hiya ke jo ud ko na bxne us ja jatfl jo baan ke chhoirh hae yd ja jatal jo ud je khilaaf baat jar de us ja jdtfl murza qadiani je jhikaaf har raz musalmaam gustakhi karte garm jabhimirzaiyon ne ho kisi ka katal nahi kiya mante fino mohd ko hi har phir itna barha farak kese
how come razi failed to show that its in their scripture, while brother adnan clearly told him that mirza was addressing muslims and not christians.
@@fouzanzilli1540 yes, for one of the examples Adnan pulls up, its to the Muslims who began to take up CHRISTIAN beliefs. when you read the context before and after the quotes Adnan pulls up, you can see how much he likes to play around with quotes. so, it was to those Muslims who began to drink and act immorally, and they would justify it by saying “Oh Isa as did it too”.
@@fouzanzilli1540 after ki iyamsg hour kuraxn and b mohd remain lair raxi is opening the eyes of you and your tyoe of muslim I stringky believe guru nanak ji maharaj guru gobind singh ji maharaj both are in the heaven. And day we ill come before the kiyamdt. Think and say it us not possible. Then how possible issa in tte sky mohd sent to usda alive in the sky and waiting to him from sky itt d us big big lie of mohd he is a hazzab. Mire then 1000 lies of mohd are endorse in hadees and kuraan how lair can be a nabi Yiu ssys ut us written in kuraan. Kuraan us fire Yiu and fir ahmsdies fir us Kuraan is a zero book
Marshallah marshallah subhanallah: well done to Razi for a marvellous defence of the Quran and Sunnah; and for pointing out the continuous and numerous misrepresentations that Adnan makes; whether this was deliberate or out of sheer ignorance : Allah knows best.
Razi SB may Allah bless U 🤲
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
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Razi Sahib may Allah bless you abundantly!!!🤲🏽🙏🏼
Ameen
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According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, the Ahmadiyya movement is the fastest growing Islamic group as of the early 21st century. The country with the largest Ahmadiyya population is Pakistan, with an estimated 4 million Ahmadi Muslims.The truth is prevailing. Alhamdulillah
Only its not islamic. Its a cult like ishmaeliya
Alhamdulillah. Thanks for mentioning this. Just shows how the Christian kufars want to mislead the rightly guided Muslims to be kufars like them.
Ahmadiyya isn’t Islam. Eww
No sorry, Islam is the fastest growing religion and not Qadianiat and its sects (rabwa, lahoris, islah pasand etc)!!!
There are millions of Ahmads all over Africa aswell
Thank Allah for this man Razi, he has taken thousands away from Kuffar Mirzas cult. Alhamudililah.
If i was to say to non-ahmadi's that my name is:
Athar
Age is 40
Color is brown
Etc etc.
They will say no you are lying even after telling them the truth.
We say we are Muslims (Ahmadi) they say no.🤯🤕
Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s books clearly state's his own positions and non-ahmadi's say no thats not what Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s means.
Its like telling a mechanic you are not a mechanic.
Non-ahmadi's please look at the Prophecy that was fulfilled by Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of lunar & solar eclipse that was supposed to be for the Medhi.
Also look at the Prophecy of the plague in India that was Prophesied by Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s.
Honest and reasonable person can never deny the truthfulness of Hazart Mirza Ghulam Ahmad a.s., please do your own research.
I'm from the Sunni Ahle Hadith sect, but I totally agree with Chief Justice Faiz's call on the Ahmadi Jamaat issue. If we let groups like Shia and Barelvi practice freely, even though they do things we might see as silly or involve worshipping others besides God and biddat in Islam and their baba's claim the respect of like Prophets, then why pick on just the Ahmadi Jamaat? Either shut down all these non-sense groups and sects or let everyone practice their beliefs in peace and respect, and we are no one to judge anybody's Islam it is a personal thing..
Razi got anailated 😂😂😂 he got triggered & 🏃🏽♂️🏃🏽♂️🏃🏽♂️
Adnan’s first rule of debate, he gets to speak for 90% of the time, the other 10% he interrupts
• Alhamdulillah for not being misled by imposters, as our Prophet cautioned us about the emergence of 30 dajjals (false prophets).
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in a person who receives his revelations from a God he named "yalash" and "kalu".
• Alhamdulillah for not being a follower of someone whose literature is filled with vulgar and indecent language like "Randi", "aye badzaat", "aye badbakht muftario", "bandaro", and calls his disbelievers as "haramzaade"!.... Where is love for all, hatred for none???
• Grateful to Allah for not falling for the deceit of mirza who falsely attributed statements to our Prophet (saw).... What a blatant liar he was?
• Alhamdulillah for not believing in your Krishna, who denied all the miracles of Prophets just because he couldn't perform one.
• Alhamdulillah for non believing in someone who contradicted himself at every other page!
That's because Razi has a better time saying we have difference of opinion. And when there's a yes or no answer based on Quran then there is a joke.
@@HarisKhan-ld9rs Alhumdolillah Ahmadis are free from your false fairytale beliefs and following of Jahil Mullahs like Adnan and Imtiaz (to name a few)
This is how these guys make big noise always. They have no interest in learning the truth.
@@mirza3709952 I think the only noise was being made by Razi, trying to dodge questions with theres a 'difference in opinion' or 'look at what your people said', 'look at what you say about Isa'. Defend your nabi on the stand, stop pointing fingers. Defend him, prove it. But nothing is convincing anyone on following that Kuffar Randibaaz, stop glorifying him. He was noone, let the poor basturd rest in peace stop doing this Mirza Mirza drama. The foul mouth on that guy talking shit about prophets thinking he's one so it's allowed.
Razi MashAllah handled himself with dignity, even towards the end he sat and spoke and finalised his thoughts. Verbalised what he took issue with and kept it moving. You can see whose mature and sincere and whose not. Adnans doing a great job of turning people away from his point of view.
Mashallah Good job razi brother Respect ❤🎉🎉🎉
Adnan’s Kryptonite the death of Isa (as). Look how he runs away from this topic but wants to discuss prostitutes and alcohol. One has to assume he is a subject matter expert on the latter and not the former. My comment is an example of Ilzami Jawab Adnan 😉
He isn't dead, only kafirs think he's dead. When the Qur'an says "THEY DID NOT KILL HIM NOR DID THEY CRUCIFY HIM"
WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF NOT BEING KILLED?
THERE U GO QUR'AN SAYS HE'S ALIVE
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
A prophet cursing at people isnt a real prophet, Mirza is a fraud
Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim and there is no Nabi and rasool after Beloved' Muhammad S.A.W,( Peace and blessings of ALLAHA upon him). But here Adnan is just dodging.
Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalamin I am ahmadi Muslim Jamaat, this discussion revealed that Adnan do not have base, he only inherited hatred devoid of facta
Really disappointed on the WAY it was conducted. BOTH of you must have a SALITH (3rd Person as an Anchor) in order to maintain the DECORUM of discussion. Furthermore, TIME must be evenly divided between both the debaters in FUTURE discussions please ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! ! My Salute for all the TRUTH Lovers. Al-hamduLILLAH عزوجل ! ! !
JazakAllah khairan you are right. They had the people I came with two people. They said it would be equal time but they kept cutting off unfortunately
Adnan already looking nervous in the first few mins with the Legend Razi
Uh? No
@@suprsyd learn to read body language
@@SwordOfAllah7860 Stop making things up.
@@suprsyd perhaps you’re intelligence is made up
@@suprsyd truth hurts? Would you like a band aid?
عدنان نے اپنے مجددین سے ھی فرار حاصل کرلیا ھے 😂😂😂
RAZI ROCKED 🔥🔥 ADNAN REALLY NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO LISTEN THEN KEEP KEEP AND KEEP interrupting
ماشاءاللہ ماشاءاللہ ماشاءاللہ razi u r star may ALLAH Bless u love u so much ❤
What is Adnan and Imtiaz’s obsession with Alcohol and Prostitutes? Are they self projecting? Why are they subject matter experts in this field? Have they been researching this first hand? They have talked about this topic so much that even cities like Amsterdam and Las Vegas have inquired if they can consult with them. (Another example of Ilzami jawab Adnan 😉)
"avoid suspicion, which is sin in some instances"
@@Arnold73937 brother I caveated it was an Ilzami Jawab 😊
If we read Quran and all previous book opponents of prophet always do allegations especially when we compare the hazmat Issa AS and hazmat massy Mahood AS that time Jews had same allegations which today opponents of hazmat Mirza sb AS making today ,his life ,his birth ,his death .
MashAllah Razi Bhai is so patient with Adnan despite Adnan talking over him all the time. Razi always makes clear points from the Quran and Hadith.
آپ کا بار بار سر کو دائیں بائیں مارنا ۔۔۔۔ اور دیگر حرکات اس بات کی دلیل ہیں کہ آپ سننے والوں کی توجہ رضی صاحب سے ہٹانا چاہتے تھے ۔۔۔۔ یار !!! کہاں سے یہ تربیت لیتے ہیں ۔۔۔۔ ایک مناظر یا عالم کو ایسی حرکات سے پاک ہونا چاہیے ۔۔۔ بالکل پاک ۔۔۔
آپ اس علمی بحث میں ایک بچے کی طرح انتہائی غیر سنجیدہ حرکتیں کرتے نظر آ رہے ہیں
Alhamdulillah Razi has essentially gotten adnan to disown all his ulema
Ahmadi answer mind blowing answer jazakalkah👍
Not ahmadis... Its quaddiyanis
@@sabaztasvir7842 you r wrong true islam only one ahmadi muslim community
Adnan throwing out his scholars (and Michael Jackson) straight away 🤣
Why did your prophet insult our beloved prophet Isa PBUH?
@@user-nx5be4sw6w Firstly he did not, it is clear you have bought into the lies of Adnan. Secondly why are you describing Isa (as) as if he is the same as RasoolAllah (saw)? Why this excessive love for him and not RasoolAllah (saw)?
@@user-nx5be4sw6w if you would have gone to school you would have known what analysis of bible means.
Razi does the exact same, he throws away all the scholars as well if it goes against the Qadiani interpretation
You guys are hypocrites
@@user-nx5be4sw6w brother he never did. Anytime the Muslims needed someone to defend Islam and the Holy Prophet (saw) from other religions. They called him right away for a response. Everyone even those who didn’t believe in him accept that he was a champion defender for Islam.
❤❤❤ Love you Razi sab.
Adnan sab has nothing, just he waste the time.
Adnan is literally petrified to talk about the death of Isa (as). He will sit all day for hours lying on the name of Messiah Maud (AS) but hates to go near the death of Isa (AS) because he knows that once it’s proven he can’t do anything. He’s blindly awaiting someone who has died, that’s the sad truth of Adnan and all his friends.
It’s so simple I completely agree on Adnan bhai quote from Quran and hadeeth. Razi bro think again
Anyone says Isa as used to drink he is a kafer......
Razi dont answer 🫢🫢May Allah guide them...
Is it fresh debate or old recording?
Fresh from yesterday
It can be seen that this Molvi Adnan doesn't know what real Islam or its teachings are, thats why he is unable to reply properly.
Holy Prophet of Islam has said that a time will come when the Ulemaa (Mullah) of his Ummah will be the worst Creature Under the skies.
That time has come and the prediction of the Prophet Muhammad PBUH has been proven true.
Subhan Allah.
May Allah curse Mirzat Gulam
Razi has deleted all other comments and if my comment will be deleted too I will post the screen shot of my comment now and after it will be deleted to show how twisted and scared Razi is for Mirza
Assalaam O alaikum wa rahmatullah, of course there's sound, I can hear you loud and clear Razi Sahib.
Adnan tries his best to distract .....he is answerless and making noise thank you razi may Allah reward u ameen
Ahmadi Muslims are the ones who believe in Khatme nabuwwat and understand it best
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Clearly you don't. Khatme nabuwat is very easy to understand Muhammad SAW is the seal of the prophets. No where does the Qur'an or the hadith for the matter change this. I know your counter to this would be but Isaa AS has a second coming. Chronologically Isaa PBUH came before Muhammad PBUH.
"The Hour shall not be established until tribes of my Ummah unite with the idolaters, and until they worship idols. And indeed there shall be thirty imposters in my Ummah,each of them claiming that he is a Prophet. And I am the last of the Prophets, there is no Prophet after me. Jami at tirmidhi 2219, grade - Sahih.
@@PearlsOfwiszdomSo who is the Last Prophet,Hazrat MuhammadPBUH or Hazrat Isa A.S?
@@waleedmalik785 Read above ^ and figure it out.
@@PearlsOfwiszdom The reason you believe Hazrat Isa A.S will come back,we believe that Hazrat Ahmad A.S will come for the same reasons
Ahmadi will never destroy any true sunni muslim Ahmadi's talk absolute nonsense