@@jamieloveday07 i think they're not included because they haven't really got anything standing out. Not a particularly big stadium, always seen to be battling relegation nowadays, and not the biggest or best fanbase either. No offense if you're a welling fan, think they're still a great club.
Great video. Although even as a Chatham supporter, I feel you've been a little ambitious with their ranking (I would put them 7th above only Ramsgate, Margate and Folkestone at present) . The main thing I witnessed at the play off matches was how inadequate the ground is currently for crowds of 3000 plus. Serious lack of toilet facilties and long queues for the bar/food. This is what I feel will hamper the club moving up to the next level. Judging from whats happened so far during pre season, it's looking like the club is continuing to concerntrate the great majority of funds in the playing side rather than improving the stadium/facilities.
Great comment, I agree about the toilets and the queues generally at Chatham 👍🏻 The stand opposite the main stand needs to be completely replaced and increased bringing the capacity more in line to 5,000, the club is on an upwards curve ⬆️👍🏻⚽️
Very interesting video as Kent is definitely not the first English county I'm thinking of when it comes to football, contrary to counties such as Yorkshire, Lancashire or the West Midlands. Especially if you're from abroad like me and if you're not that much into non-league clubs. But at least I've eventually heard of all clubs in the National League as there are some former long-term EFL members such as Oldham, Hartlepool, Southend or Rochdale (wasn't League Two even nicknamed "the Rochdale division" for quite a long time?) which are on my monitor here and there. But when it comes to Kent and football, I'm thinking of Gillingham (after asking myself whether Gillingham is actually in Kent or not, haha), maybe Dover hosting a small 6th or 7th tier club (with Dover Athletic) and that would be pretty much all if you would ask me about football in Kent, to be honest. I would probably never have heard of Ebbsfleet (Northfleet) if there wouldn't be a football club in the 5th tier. German sausages at Ebbsfleet Utd home matches, really? I'd never would have expected that, haha. As a German (who rarely eats any meat or meat products), I have to say that I appreciated British sausages a lot more, at least the few I've tried. They seemed a bit more finely minced inside, thus softer, more spicy and salty which I love. Especially in sausage rolls which are not common over here and I loved them! Best regards from Germany and please keep up your great content, I enjoy those channels about football or ground hopping which still seem fully authentic and down to earth as it should be!
My initial thoughts were Gills, Maidstone, Ebsfleet and then Dover. After that I was completely lost, although I did know that there was a club called Folkestone Invicta. 😅
Nice one thanks! How about those teams who participate in the Kent Senior cup? If it was purely based on food outlet, There’s no doubt Dover would not even be in the top 10!!!
Mine are (including bromley and welling): Gillingham Bromley Maidstone Ebbsfleet Dartford Dover Welling Tonbridge Chatham Folkestone Pains me as a dartford fan to put us below ebbsfleet but now that they're two leagues above us it's accurate I'd say. Now that I've watched this video the whole way through I've got no clue what the guy on the left was on about.
@mattthegroundhopper9242 I think the fact that chatham have never even been in the national south, let alone the national league, is the reason for that. But yeah if chatham go up to the national south and potentially beyond then they'll shoot up the list
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 I put a bit more weight on history than some people might, just because fanbases can come and go (just look at Dover's attendances recently)
@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah I didn't put chatham very high up as they haven't ever been in the national south, let alone the national league. If they do get to the south then I'd put them up the list, same thing with ramsgate.
I think in years to come. We'll see the likes of Ramsgate, Chatham, Folkstone, Dartford fight it out in the Nls. Dover perhaps aswell if they kick on Soo many Essex,Kent and Londonsih based teams that aren't all too far away from eachother. Really strong area for football. Great crowds and fans aswell. Where as we could see more western sides fall off in comparison. Weymouth, Chippenham,Weston. Maybe a big turn around in the National league South. We'll wait and see. Although, size isn't everything. Dulwich seem to find the ishtmian hard and they're massive.
Are you two going to meet up when you go to Folkestone? It`d be good if you do. I can see the reasoning both of you gave for your placings, but I`d definitely put Ebbsfleet second if we are discounting Bromley. Despite being from South London I still regard Bromley as a Kent club. Either way, it`s great to see them in the Football League.
Gillingham Maidstone Ebsfleet Dover Tonbridge Chattham Ramsgate Dartford Ashford Folkestone Margate Sheppey Deal Faversham Sevenoaks Dont know how many it is but a pretty big list
I would rate Folkestone as bigger than Margate. I would even rate Sheppey United as bigger than Margate atm. Historically, Margate have achieved far more than Sheppey but, as it stands, Sheppey are better supported by more than 100 and that's not counting the cup games against Billericay and Walsall, have achieved more in recent years and are on an upward trajectory while Margate have slipped from the National League to Isthmian South East.
My list is 1 Gillingham 2 Maidstone 3 Ebbsfleet 4 Chatham 5 Tonbridge 6 Dartford 7 Ramsgate 8 Dover 9 Folkestone 10 Margate I can see Faversham and Sittingbourne making this list very soon.
@@dart2691 I think if you asked me a year or two ago I’d agree with you but with Dartford’s relegation last season and in terms of club ambitions I have to say us and Chatham are bigger. I have a feeling Chatham will overtake most of the Kent clubs one day with their money.
@tonbridgefantv4446 I think we should bounce straight back up, I can't see tonbridge doing any better than mid table national south. It would be good if you did get into the national league as I don't mind tonbridge. As for chatham I think in a few years maybe but they don't have the history to be further up the list yet
Remember Thanet Council screwed Over Margate in 2003 When Hartesdown Park was going to be Redeveloped into 6,000 capacity and Conference fined Margate £50K for every home game played at Crabble the reason why Margate is in such a mess and still hasn't recovered. start A Petition for Ebbsfleet United to be changed back to Gravesend and Northfleet as for Chatham amazing crowds but a new Stand is needed before promotion to National League because we know crowds will go up and we both saw that in play-off final and the ground could not handle a 3,000 all ticket sell out.
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 The Ground today was Longmead stadium Tonbridge got as far as Paddock Wood 14.28 14.58 and 15.28 to Tonbridge all Canceled and to take the biscuit the Train Back to Strood was Canceled so Tomorrow it is Sheppy Sports that was k Sports and Aylesford Paper Mills in FA Vase for my Super Sunday Football.
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 13.Sheppey Sports v Reigate Priory 14.Woking v Hartlepool united 15.Westfield v Leatherhead 16.Clapton Community v Soul Towers Hamlets 17.West Ham United v AFC Bournemouth
Mine is
Gillingham
Dover
Maidstone
Dartford
Ebbsfleet
Chatham
Ramsgate
Tonbridge
Folkestone
Margate
(Dover fan)
Welling ?
@@jamieloveday07 i think they're not included because they haven't really got anything standing out. Not a particularly big stadium, always seen to be battling relegation nowadays, and not the biggest or best fanbase either. No offense if you're a welling fan, think they're still a great club.
I do love a nice biased list from a Dover fan, just like Tom
@@jamieloveday07if Bromley are London so is welling
Great video. Although even as a Chatham supporter, I feel you've been a little ambitious with their ranking (I would put them 7th above only Ramsgate, Margate and Folkestone at present) . The main thing I witnessed at the play off matches was how inadequate the ground is currently for crowds of 3000 plus. Serious lack of toilet facilties and long queues for the bar/food. This is what I feel will hamper the club moving up to the next level. Judging from whats happened so far during pre season, it's looking like the club is continuing to concerntrate the great majority of funds in the playing side rather than improving the stadium/facilities.
Great comment, I agree about the toilets and the queues generally at Chatham 👍🏻 The stand opposite the main stand needs to be completely replaced and increased bringing the capacity more in line to 5,000, the club is on an upwards curve ⬆️👍🏻⚽️
Very interesting video as Kent is definitely not the first English county I'm thinking of when it comes to football, contrary to counties such as Yorkshire, Lancashire or the West Midlands. Especially if you're from abroad like me and if you're not that much into non-league clubs. But at least I've eventually heard of all clubs in the National League as there are some former long-term EFL members such as Oldham, Hartlepool, Southend or Rochdale (wasn't League Two even nicknamed "the Rochdale division" for quite a long time?) which are on my monitor here and there. But when it comes to Kent and football, I'm thinking of Gillingham (after asking myself whether Gillingham is actually in Kent or not, haha), maybe Dover hosting a small 6th or 7th tier club (with Dover Athletic) and that would be pretty much all if you would ask me about football in Kent, to be honest.
I would probably never have heard of Ebbsfleet (Northfleet) if there wouldn't be a football club in the 5th tier. German sausages at Ebbsfleet Utd home matches, really? I'd never would have expected that, haha. As a German (who rarely eats any meat or meat products), I have to say that I appreciated British sausages a lot more, at least the few I've tried. They seemed a bit more finely minced inside, thus softer, more spicy and salty which I love. Especially in sausage rolls which are not common over here and I loved them! Best regards from Germany and please keep up your great content, I enjoy those channels about football or ground hopping which still seem fully authentic and down to earth as it should be!
Thanks for your comments and for taking an interest all the way from Germany. In the future, just focus on Gillingham!
My initial thoughts were Gills, Maidstone, Ebsfleet and then Dover. After that I was completely lost, although I did know that there was a club called Folkestone Invicta. 😅
Good old Folkestone Invicta, what no Chatham Town??
Nice one thanks! How about those teams who participate in the Kent Senior cup?
If it was purely based on food outlet, There’s no doubt Dover would not even be in the top 10!!!
Any team that are under the London Mayor, in my eyes are now London
Mine are (including bromley and welling):
Gillingham
Bromley
Maidstone
Ebbsfleet
Dartford
Dover
Welling
Tonbridge
Chatham
Folkestone
Pains me as a dartford fan to put us below ebbsfleet but now that they're two leagues above us it's accurate I'd say.
Now that I've watched this video the whole way through I've got no clue what the guy on the left was on about.
Nice list but no way Chatham are all the way down in 9th, give it a 3 years and Chatham will be pushing for 3rd spot!
@mattthegroundhopper9242 I think the fact that chatham have never even been in the national south, let alone the national league, is the reason for that. But yeah if chatham go up to the national south and potentially beyond then they'll shoot up the list
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 I put a bit more weight on history than some people might, just because fanbases can come and go (just look at Dover's attendances recently)
@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah I didn't put chatham very high up as they haven't ever been in the national south, let alone the national league. If they do get to the south then I'd put them up the list, same thing with ramsgate.
I think in years to come. We'll see the likes of Ramsgate, Chatham, Folkstone, Dartford fight it out in the Nls. Dover perhaps aswell if they kick on
Soo many Essex,Kent and Londonsih based teams that aren't all too far away from eachother.
Really strong area for football.
Great crowds and fans aswell.
Where as we could see more western sides fall off in comparison.
Weymouth, Chippenham,Weston.
Maybe a big turn around in the National league South.
We'll wait and see.
Although, size isn't everything.
Dulwich seem to find the ishtmian hard and they're massive.
My future picks for greatness are Chatham and Ramsgate!
Gills
Maidstone
Ebbsfleet
Dover
Dartford
Tonbridge
Folkestone
Chatham
Ramsgate
Margate
(Dafc fan with what I'd say is an unbiased)
Chatham need to be higher in your list, and below Folkestone??
@mattthegroundhopper9242 yeah used off years before not just now though
Are you two going to meet up when you go to Folkestone?
It`d be good if you do.
I can see the reasoning both of you gave for your placings, but I`d definitely put Ebbsfleet second if we are discounting Bromley. Despite being from South London I still regard Bromley as a Kent club. Either way, it`s great to see them in the Football League.
Thanks George, yes we may meet up at the game, Bromley in Kent, I keep flip flopping over the decision 👍🏻⚽️
Gillingham
Maidstone
Ebsfleet
Dover
Tonbridge
Chattham
Ramsgate
Dartford
Ashford
Folkestone
Margate
Sheppey
Deal
Faversham
Sevenoaks
Dont know how many it is but a pretty big list
No Herne Bay? Sevenoaks should be no where near the list!
Do agree with both of your 1 & 10 though
Thanks Stephen
I would rate Folkestone as bigger than Margate.
I would even rate Sheppey United as bigger than Margate atm. Historically, Margate have achieved far more than Sheppey but, as it stands, Sheppey are better supported by more than 100 and that's not counting the cup games against Billericay and Walsall, have achieved more in recent years and are on an upward trajectory while Margate have slipped from the National League to Isthmian South East.
I think Folkestone have a fair chance of moving up the list, yes Sheppey Utd, I was there home and away for the channel against Billericay!
My list is
1 Gillingham
2 Maidstone
3 Ebbsfleet
4 Chatham
5 Tonbridge
6 Dartford
7 Ramsgate
8 Dover
9 Folkestone
10 Margate
I can see Faversham and Sittingbourne making this list very soon.
That’s a good list, very similar to mine? You have a great channel btw 👍🏻⚽️
Not a chance are chatham and tonbridge bigger than dartford
@@dart2691 I think if you asked me a year or two ago I’d agree with you but with Dartford’s relegation last season and in terms of club ambitions I have to say us and Chatham are bigger. I have a feeling Chatham will overtake most of the Kent clubs one day with their money.
@tonbridgefantv4446 I think we should bounce straight back up, I can't see tonbridge doing any better than mid table national south. It would be good if you did get into the national league as I don't mind tonbridge. As for chatham I think in a few years maybe but they don't have the history to be further up the list yet
Not sure who would have dropped from either list, but I would have had Herne Bay in the top 10
Herne Bay is a good shout, would probably be my 11th
Margate to me would be 6, just based on the football they can play
They would have been but half a season under Mark Stimson and they faced the dreaded drop!
Remember Thanet Council screwed Over Margate in 2003 When Hartesdown Park was going to be Redeveloped into 6,000 capacity and Conference fined Margate £50K for every home game played at Crabble the reason why Margate is in such a mess and still hasn't recovered. start A Petition for Ebbsfleet United to be changed back to Gravesend and Northfleet as for Chatham amazing crowds but a new Stand is needed before promotion to National League because we know crowds will go up and we both saw that in play-off final and the ground could not handle a 3,000 all ticket sell out.
I agree Matt, bring back Gravesend, also Chatham definitely need a new stand, have to get that capacity up to at least 5,000!
@@mattthegroundhopper9242 The Ground today was Longmead stadium Tonbridge got as far as Paddock Wood 14.28 14.58 and 15.28 to Tonbridge all Canceled and to take the biscuit the Train Back to Strood was Canceled so Tomorrow it is Sheppy Sports that was k Sports and Aylesford Paper Mills in FA Vase for my Super Sunday Football.
@@MattGFC1977Matt you are the true non league ground hopper 👍⚽️
@@mattthegroundhopper9242
13.Sheppey Sports v Reigate Priory
14.Woking v Hartlepool united
15.Westfield v Leatherhead
16.Clapton Community v Soul Towers Hamlets
17.West Ham United v AFC Bournemouth
on Friday Grays Athletic v Redbridge Then on Saturday Gillingham v Chesterfield at 12.30pm and Hollands & Blair v Whitstable Town at 3pm
Dover 2nd? I would make them 5th, other than last 2 seasons with the points deductions forcing relegation
I agree, Tom got a little carried away with Dover in those lofty heights!
Dover top!!
How anyone can think that Dover are bigger than Maidstone is beyond me 😂😂
I agree, I think Tom got a little carried away on the video, Maidstone are number 2 and will be for some while yet!
I can!!!!!!!
No welling . Disgrace
Yeah welling and bromley have to be kent clubs imo, bromley isn't proper London
Haha, I was waiting for someone to mention Welling, ok, they can be 11th