I think at this point the label distinction for JRPG is dated, like I should probably start getting accustomed to using phrases like action, turn-based, or tactical-rpg more often.
Well the conversation happened during an interview for FF16, where Yoshi-P was referring to the game as an action game and when asked about JRPGs, he explained his feelings for the term and they don't make games, (which includes FF16) thinking it's a JRPG, so from that not sure how he's not referring to FF16 unless I've read something wrong.
Great video my dude! Not worried about the story at all. Combat should be a blast. CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THIS. Also interesting to see FF shift away from turn based while games like Like A Dragon are embracing it.
The only thing I will say about this is that real time combat is 0 guarantee for more sales. Plenty of action based games sell worse then even Persona 5. Square needs to focus on chasing quality of their product before numbers. They always over estimate their sales figures for the game in the first year. An none of my friends that are not into FF have expressed any interest in 16 just because of the combat change. The two games you mentioned GOW and Witcher 3 are both amazing top tier games in their respective genres and earned those sales. GOW Ragnarok even more impressive because it's done it while exclusive. While Final Fantasy is a big name making it play like DMC a game that struggled to just hit 6.5 million sales after 4 years and being on discount multiple times is a perfect example of there not being this automatic sales boost just because it's action based. If anything DMC sold even less then a lot of other games.
Tbh that may be true, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. Persona 5 sold well because it was a brand that is sold on it's winning formula. Final Fantasy is always debating about that - 3-" Though honestly the DMC combat present in FFXVI kinda just makes me wish a development would just take the basis of Kingdom Hearts's command menu's into a Final Fantasy game. It kinda feels like a bummer for these Square Enix games to not allow the degree of freedom KH games has done years with action combat in something else. Also NEO The World Ends with You deserved 1 billion copies sold
Great points Enate, I do feel though its much more easy to market real time combat to a wider demo than it is turn based. I LOVE turn base and like you correctly said GOD is a top teir. They have ALOT of work, to make it stand out from the crowd but I believe they have a bigger chance taking the combat into real time.
@@heroicgangster9981 I think Persona 5 is the BEST trun base combat i've ever seen and SMT has taken years to get to that sweet spot. I think Final Fantasy 7 Remake has the perfect real time for me, which is that inbetween. I honestly haven't played much KH but I think what I played on KH3 isn't as mainstream as a DMC but I could wrong.
Jesus the discourse around this is mind numbing. Japanese devs don't see their games as a JRPG, they just think they are making an RPG. It's no different from any other RPG made by Japanese devs, YoshiP like most Japanese devs just hates the term JRPG.
I completely understand why its become such a talking matter, so many gamers love what in their mind is a JRPG and what differs it from Western style RPGs so I think they was very shocked and I agree with you Yoshi-P has the right to not like the term, espeically when it was used in a negative tone.
Well they do have a mode that auto doges but that’s an option so there still be a lot of challenge and apparently they doing a DMC challenge mode. What Turn base games do you like playing?
@@MrMidasGames I played the last remnant, golden sun, 7th saga, almost all the final fantasy games, I won't include all the srpgs in here and strictly just turn based, but those are the ones off the top of my head.
I think at this point the label distinction for JRPG is dated, like I should probably start getting accustomed to using phrases like action, turn-based, or tactical-rpg more often.
Yeah I think you're right Turn Based or Real Time RPG is deffo the way of the forward. Thanks for your comment.
Don’t care about the “labels” it being a Final Fantasy is enough for me.
And enough for me too! As long as it’s not a FF13-2 lol
It’s not an RPG or JRPG fam… It’s a way of Life!!💯🔥👌🏾👌🏾
A WAY OF LIFE!!!
They were not talking about FFXVI not being an JRPG. They were talking about the term in general not being liked among Japanese developers.
Well the conversation happened during an interview for FF16, where Yoshi-P was referring to the game as an action game and when asked about JRPGs, he explained his feelings for the term and they don't make games, (which includes FF16) thinking it's a JRPG, so from that not sure how he's not referring to FF16 unless I've read something wrong.
Very insightful, wow dem old reviews didn't age well
Thanks my g!! Yeah hella peak.
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Thanks Sun…
It's gonna be a great JRPG. 👍
Great time to be a gamer.
Great video my dude! Not worried about the story at all. Combat should be a blast. CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THIS.
Also interesting to see FF shift away from turn based while games like Like A Dragon are embracing it.
Yeah it’s a great way to see although FF doesn’t think that combat is for them any more! Games like Like A Dragon and Persona are perfecting it.
Very interested to see how things turn out when ff16 drops and if this is the direction that future FF games will take
It's good to get more people like Joe back into the series, I just hope we still get titles similar to FF7 Remake.
The only thing I will say about this is that real time combat is 0 guarantee for more sales. Plenty of action based games sell worse then even Persona 5. Square needs to focus on chasing quality of their product before numbers. They always over estimate their sales figures for the game in the first year. An none of my friends that are not into FF have expressed any interest in 16 just because of the combat change. The two games you mentioned GOW and Witcher 3 are both amazing top tier games in their respective genres and earned those sales. GOW Ragnarok even more impressive because it's done it while exclusive. While Final Fantasy is a big name making it play like DMC a game that struggled to just hit 6.5 million sales after 4 years and being on discount multiple times is a perfect example of there not being this automatic sales boost just because it's action based. If anything DMC sold even less then a lot of other games.
Tbh that may be true, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. Persona 5 sold well because it was a brand that is sold on it's winning formula. Final Fantasy is always debating about that - 3-" Though honestly the DMC combat present in FFXVI kinda just makes me wish a development would just take the basis of Kingdom Hearts's command menu's into a Final Fantasy game. It kinda feels like a bummer for these Square Enix games to not allow the degree of freedom KH games has done years with action combat in something else.
Also NEO The World Ends with You deserved 1 billion copies sold
Great points Enate, I do feel though its much more easy to market real time combat to a wider demo than it is turn based. I LOVE turn base and like you correctly said GOD is a top teir. They have ALOT of work, to make it stand out from the crowd but I believe they have a bigger chance taking the combat into real time.
@@heroicgangster9981 I think Persona 5 is the BEST trun base combat i've ever seen and SMT has taken years to get to that sweet spot. I think Final Fantasy 7 Remake has the perfect real time for me, which is that inbetween. I honestly haven't played much KH but I think what I played on KH3 isn't as mainstream as a DMC but I could wrong.
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Jesus the discourse around this is mind numbing. Japanese devs don't see their games as a JRPG, they just think they are making an RPG. It's no different from any other RPG made by Japanese devs, YoshiP like most Japanese devs just hates the term JRPG.
I completely understand why its become such a talking matter, so many gamers love what in their mind is a JRPG and what differs it from Western style RPGs so I think they was very shocked and I agree with you Yoshi-P has the right to not like the term, espeically when it was used in a negative tone.
The music is just beautiful fam😍😍😍
Some of my favourite, can't lie.
Yeah, I definitely wanna play this one for real 😮🙌🏾🔥
When I made this video, thought of you definitely one for you my guy.
This was nicely done! Can’t wait for this game
Thanks my g!!
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Interesting…🤔
Whats your thoughts Dee?
@@MrMidasGames Maybe Japan is starting to care a bit about what the outside world wants from them gaming-wise?
No, it's just a regular ordinary game now that requires 0 skills to win.
Well they do have a mode that auto doges but that’s an option so there still be a lot of challenge and apparently they doing a DMC challenge mode. What Turn base games do you like playing?
@@MrMidasGames I played the last remnant, golden sun, 7th saga, almost all the final fantasy games, I won't include all the srpgs in here and strictly just turn based, but those are the ones off the top of my head.