Beautiful Torvy the Cat. And the British bicycles that have passed the test of time, Made in England, and built to last, looking forward to seeing these in future videos.
Be very interesting to see how you tackle the restoration of these two. I often pull bikes out of skips that are in a similar state to these so all your tips and tricks are really handy.
I don't think they'll be getting a full resto as in spraying and rechroming. I don't want to take away the originality of that Raleigh for one... and I can't afford that either.
I've recently come across your very interesting channel. These two bikes piqued my interest, as I seem to be encountering more old bikes wanting restoration.🙂 Looking forward to seeing your approach and methodology to restoring. Cheers from Canada!
Can't wait to see what you do with both of these bikes, but especially the Sun - who else thought 'see BMC your design of bike isn't unique and nothings new and its all been done before and, sometimes, better.
This is a beautiful story and it speaks well of your kindness and character that you got the ring-a-ling for those bikes, much cheer and congrats, and so very nice of Clive to open the barn and let those bikes see the light of day once again. And thanks for showing us around those bikes, incredible that dropped stays were a thing way back when. Surely aero, who knew. And I like the play on super as supa and these days it'd prolly be a Supalyte and that'd be outta sight. And what's up with that bike being sold without a chainguard? They could've called it the Speed Rat.
Thanks Robb. I'd still lvoe to track down the Sun in a brochure to identify it 100%. The dropped seat stays are a unique feature I'd love to know more about.
@@MonkeyShred yep my kitty loves the sun he's not got much fur coat on his tum so can only go out for short periods as it gets cold but my god you're is so loving and really cute
Fingers crossed for an easy tear down. I managed to remove the pedals when I collected them so I could fit them in the car. The Sun's pedals came off so easy!
Same here, I think we are all a bit romantic about that bygone era mate, when the roads were quieter and cycling was a big part of leisure time and commuting. Probably why we love these old bikes so much, they are symbolic of a more relaxed way of life and a testament to British engineering.
@@FrancoDX Clive did say they used to go out on big family rides every Sunday in the country. When the roads were quieter. I've got a few quiet roads around here though that I can take them down.
Sounds good doesn’t it. I saw a family out a few week back with this little kid wearing a helmet in the middle riding a mini road bike which made me smile then within seconds an Audi driver ripped by them with a close pass. Made me feel sad and angry at the same time. I just don’t get it.
That rear derailleur, I am pretty sure it is from about 1956. There is not a lot of them. The bike doesn't look heavily customized to me. Even though the bike shop owner clearly could have done some. I think it is a fairly advanced model from the mid-fifties. How much does it weight? It might be related to a Tour bike. I too look forward to it's rebirth. :)
The earliest Benelux brochure on VCC is 1950 and says the 3,4 and 5 speed derailleurs were available then in a few different styles. I 'm certain the derailleur and shifter and even the back wheel are a later addition though. If it had been mid 50s for the bike the paint would have been a lot more vibrant (looking at brochures of that time) and it would have definitely had a regular threaded headset rather than that "clip" style. I haven't weighed it yet. I need to!
Like your movie i found 2 weeks ago nice city bike in some park full shimago exage lx 400 groupset mavic wheels weird after 30years bottom bracket and all part works like new ,now i need a time to do that same thing as you cool because have oval chainrings i never ride on them before we will se what will be with him. :)
Finally some interesting bikes again. no offence i know some people like them, but i think nearly all mountainbikes are ugly. i prefer these older ones.
wow...stunning bikes, look forward to the restoration vid!
And more Torvi of course?
Beautiful Torvy the Cat.
And the British bicycles that have passed the test of time, Made in England, and built to last, looking forward to seeing these in future videos.
Certainly are! I expect they were looked after nicely too!
I love the seat stays on the sun
I really want to find more period information about them!
🚴♂️🚴♂️ Beautiful bicycles!!
Looking forward to the restorations.
I love bikes of that era.
Be very interesting to see how you tackle the restoration of these two. I often pull bikes out of skips that are in a similar state to these so all your tips and tricks are really handy.
The Raleigh will definitely be an oily rag resto. It's in such good condition. The Sun is a bit rougher but still very good... apart from the fork.
Great find , a full restoration will keep you busy for ever. Go for it.
I don't think they'll be getting a full resto as in spraying and rechroming. I don't want to take away the originality of that Raleigh for one... and I can't afford that either.
Those are gems!! Cant wait to see the progress
They match my BSA perfectly too :)
Classic, from another time.
I do really have an appreication for 30s/40s bikes.
I've recently come across your very interesting channel. These two bikes piqued my interest, as I seem to be encountering more old bikes wanting restoration.🙂 Looking forward to seeing your approach and methodology to restoring. Cheers from Canada!
Very sympathetic with the two I think. I don't want to change too much but the wheels definitely need rebuilding for safety.
Love the top tube shifters. Pretty sick to have so much family history for the bikes.
I definitely need to find the K shifter. It's classic.
It's amazing how similar the sun is to today's bike specially the rear end.
I know! I'm still trying to track down more info on it.
Can't wait to see what you do with both of these bikes, but especially the Sun - who else thought 'see BMC your design of bike isn't unique and nothings new and its all been done before and, sometimes, better.
The Sun is especially special I think. I really wish I could track it down in a brochure.
Nice, looking forward to how they turn out
You and me both.
This is a beautiful story and it speaks well of your kindness and character that you got the ring-a-ling for those bikes, much cheer and congrats, and so very nice of Clive to open the barn and let those bikes see the light of day once again. And thanks for showing us around those bikes, incredible that dropped stays were a thing way back when. Surely aero, who knew. And I like the play on super as supa and these days it'd prolly be a Supalyte and that'd be outta sight. And what's up with that bike being sold without a chainguard? They could've called it the Speed Rat.
Thanks Robb. I'd still lvoe to track down the Sun in a brochure to identify it 100%. The dropped seat stays are a unique feature I'd love to know more about.
Love the new narration style!
The three seat covers was hilarious.
They were the only things holding that seat together!
Would be great if the family had some photos of the people with the bikes.
I'll ask :)
A great find Mark. I'll be interested to see if the celluloid mudguards can be salvaged - and the saddles!!
If the celluloid can't... I have spares now :)
Great video! Any possibility the seat was rubber? Leather was in short supply during the war years. Dunlap was associated with rubber.
That's very true! I just made an assumption it was leather. I'll double check.
Wow lovely bikes 😍
And bless Torvi sunbathing little sweetheart
She's missing the sun already!
@@MonkeyShred yep my kitty loves the sun he's not got much fur coat on his tum so can only go out for short periods as it gets cold but my god you're is so loving and really cute
Can't wait see the the builds good luck You will need a lot of penetrating oil and patience and torvi 😎
Fingers crossed for an easy tear down. I managed to remove the pedals when I collected them so I could fit them in the car. The Sun's pedals came off so easy!
Awesome 😎 alot of work to put them right but worth it!
Definitely! Oh, and I'll grab that Kerry's for you in the week too ;)
MonkeyShred brilliant if you could, drop an email on civicdamo@icloud.com let me know cheers buddy
Nice story and well done, two very interesting projects, be great if Clive allows a picture of the Sunn in its heyday too.
I do love seeing those old photos. I've got one of my grandpa on his bike that I now own. Priceless.
Same here, I think we are all a bit romantic about that bygone era mate, when the roads were quieter and cycling was a big part of leisure time and commuting. Probably why we love these old bikes so much, they are symbolic of a more relaxed way of life and a testament to British engineering.
@@FrancoDX Clive did say they used to go out on big family rides every Sunday in the country. When the roads were quieter. I've got a few quiet roads around here though that I can take them down.
Sounds good doesn’t it. I saw a family out a few week back with this little kid wearing a helmet in the middle riding a mini road bike which made me smile then within seconds an Audi driver ripped by them with a close pass. Made me feel sad and angry at the same time. I just don’t get it.
That rear derailleur, I am pretty sure it is from about 1956. There is not a lot of them. The bike doesn't look heavily customized to me. Even though the bike shop owner clearly could have done some. I think it is a fairly advanced model from the mid-fifties. How much does it weight? It might be related to a Tour bike. I too look forward to it's rebirth. :)
The earliest Benelux brochure on VCC is 1950 and says the 3,4 and 5 speed derailleurs were available then in a few different styles. I 'm certain the derailleur and shifter and even the back wheel are a later addition though. If it had been mid 50s for the bike the paint would have been a lot more vibrant (looking at brochures of that time) and it would have definitely had a regular threaded headset rather than that "clip" style. I haven't weighed it yet. I need to!
"That's the way, uhuh, uhuh, I like it!"
The grandfather really seemed to like cushioned seats lol. Might have saved him from butt soreness but definitely didn't do that Brooks no good...
Nope :( It was very dry under all those layers! I'll have to find a way to repurpose it.
@@MonkeyShred I've heard of at least one person who re-covers leather saddles. Or, turn it upside down and make it into a planter. :D
These will keep you busy for awhile. :)
Sure will!
Have a similar Dunlop saddle lying around (in pretty bad shape). Though mine is rubber.
Interesting! I'll have to double check. I just assumed it was leather.
I prefer anything made with quality parts and built by craftsmen
Not all old bikes are, but these ones are definitely quality.
Cool
People are going to hate trying to date my bicycles once they're out of my possession, because I customize the heck out of them...
Like your movie i found 2 weeks ago nice city bike in some park full shimago exage lx 400 groupset mavic wheels weird after 30years bottom bracket and all part works like new ,now i need a time to do that same thing as you cool because have oval chainrings i never ride on them before we will se what will be with him. :)
We always need more time to work on the bikes!
Finally some interesting bikes again. no offence i know some people like them, but i think nearly all mountainbikes are ugly. i prefer these older ones.
Oh it's ok. I'm not offended by everyone elses bad taste ;)
/jk I love this era of bikes too.
Exiting
...close the door on your way out...
That seat was like a game of pass the parcel
And there's no winners with a Brooks in that state :(
@@MonkeyShred I was rather disappointed can you get a better one next time please
@@ripleybrowning-smith9617 😂 I'll try.
Hic opus est.
I had to Google that latin! This is the task, this is the toil?
@@MonkeyShred 'Here is work'. AFAIK
not mass produced carbon bikes that have no identity
Hey. I have a carbon bike too ;)