Watch This Before You Buy The xTool F1!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2023
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Great video. I just received mine. The black USB insert on the back is not for Wifi. Wifi is built into the machine. The little USB insert is a safety key, which when removed, will render the machine useless so others or children can't use it. It also comes with an extra safety key in the box.
I stand corrected. Thank you.
Thanks for the video, Ken. I've got the xtool D1 pro 40w and the M1 10w - you got me thinking about the F1 now.
Hey the F1 is great to bring along to craft shows or other places. I'm cranking out slate coasters like crazy, lol
Nice review Ken. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Thank you.
Great video very informative thanks for sharing
Thank you.
Thank you! First review that says what I wanted to know! The air purifier automatically starts and stops with the F1!
Nobody mentioned such an important detail🙌
Glad I could help!
Great review, earned my sub.
How long did it take to do those 3 coasters?
Thanks. It took about 3 mins each.
Great review, just wondering about sound levels, i don't recall you mentioning it. cheers.
The fan can be heard, but not as bad as the other laser heads I have used.
Thank you so much for your response. much appreciated. @@MoonpieCreations
Ken, very informative and thanks. Being a bowl turner myself wondering how it has worked out for you?
The laser is pretty great. Not using it for my bowls though. I have an ATEZR 35w for that.
Good overview. Since the Midwave laser is 2 Watts, it appears they are using the same diode technology as they are using in their 1064 nm module for the D1 Pro.
Great info. Thanks
Thanks so much for your suggestion. I think I'll get one. Do they have good customer service for issues? I am good at using complicated tools.
I have heard good and bad things. But normally when you send an email it works out better. I would suggest joining the official FB group and the unofficial one. Great info on both.
Can’t wait to get one. Won’t be till next year but as a pet store start up this is gonna be fun!
It's fun for sure.
AWESOME VIDEO MAN I WANT THIS NOW
Thank you. I did screw one description. The little thumb drive piece I showed is a key not the WIFI. This is a fun and easy machine to use.
Good info Ken
Thanks 👍
The table limits the speed to 160 mms - There should be two modes: the current method using the table for the X axis. A mode that allows a galvo etch of the 4”x4” then automatically moves to the next position and allows a 4”x4” galvo etch. That way, each 4x4” etch or cut will happen at the up to the 4000mms which is the machine rated speed.
Good information, thanks.
Awesome video Moonpie Creations. Have you tested the LaserPecker 4? I looked through your videos and didn't see it. I'd like your opinion on the comparison between the two of these machines.
LaserPecker asked me to review it, but never followed through on sending it to me. As for this machine, it is a fantastic laser. I have not stopped using it since I did this review.
@@MoonpieCreations What a joke. I mean the LP.
Great video and honest review! Have you tried the F1 on brass? anodized aluminum? thanks!
I did it on copper, but not brass or Aluminum
The bottle openers are anodized aluminum
thank you for your overview!!! is this possible 220v?
Is a 120 V but you can choose which ones need on their website
Thank you!!! Have great Weekend :)
Like the video right up to the point. (The Price)
Steep price for sure ouch. It will go on my "someday" list.
It is expensive, But I think if you are looking to have a portable laser you can bring to craft shows or other events it might be perfect. The KEY here is "not hobby" for sure.
Will it engrave on clear epoxy or epoxy with mica? Asking for pens. Want to switch from CO2
It will not engrave on clear acrylic or epoxy. But epoxy with mica? Depends on the colors I would think. There are some spectrums that an IR and diode just won't etch.
So i have a couple of questions what exactly can you do with this can you only do smaller stuff like you showed or can you do bigger i saw what looked like tumblers cutting boards and rolling pin in the intro and how easy is it to get everything the right size and lined up perfectly also whats the kickstarter thing you mentioned
Hey, you really can not do larger things with this. Although, you do have the option of the extent ion which allows large things to be lasered. Lining thigs up is easy as you have the framer. The Kickstarter was the monetary campaign xTool ran to get funding for th eF1.
@MoonpieCreations that'd good to know cause I like the idea of this being portable and takes up less space even if it wasn't considered portable bur would also like to be able to do tumblers
I’d love to see someone compare the pros and cons of the F1 vs the S1.
F1 is better for engraving/cutting small things and thin/delicate materials. Also faster batching.
S1 can cut thicker material and heads are interchangable unlike the F1. 10x~ slower on small things but has optional passthrough, risers, etc.
2 different beasts
WAIT! I restore a lot of older stuff, tools, guns, and knives where on the small parts especially you try to remove the rust without removing the character. Your plier's example looked like if you went a little lighter or faster you would have had almost 0 rust and full-on patina, that was awesome.
That's awesome. I hope it can work well for you.
I did have a problem trying to engrave a pizza cutter barely left a mark even with cermark
Really, that's strange.
My xtool M1 went crazy and now it fires the laser ray at will😳I never tried to use the laser since I was doing only Blade cuts in paper. They want to send me some new parts but I am not happy! I bought it from amazon and the returns grace days just expired just when it started with problems 🤦🏻maybe I should ask for a credit and buy the F1. Just because it can cut transparent acrylic 🎉
Thanks for that info.
I don't think the F1 can cut transparent acrylic.
What settings do you used for the IR on the tumblers. Because I couldn’t get it right. I am testing here for a week and I didn’t it get clean with just one pass. Thank you already 😊
That really depends on the tumbler type. I did a test grid to find what worked for me, but I found 80spd 100pwr 200lpi worked for me.
I ran 2 passes for mine, first pass with blue laser and 2nd pass with IR laser, and the results are stunnng. @@MoonpieCreations
Can you tell me honestly which is the better machine, this out the Glowforge? Which is easier to use and can do the most?
So Glowforge is a CO2 laser cutter that can cut and engrave materials like wood, glass, and plastic. The xTool F1 is a portable laser engraver that can engrave at a speed of 4000 mm/s. The Glowforge is more comparable to the xTool P2 not the F1. So they don't really compare.
I bought the xTool D1 20W. Im try to find out if I can laser text into paper wedding cocktail napkins?
Hmmm. Maybe with super low power setting. I would suggest you get some and try a bunch of settings.
I love mine
Awesome. It's fun to use.
Will this machine engrave on hand tools such as wrenches and sockets? Wrenches being chrome and some sockets?
I haven't tried it but I don't see why i would work on Chrome. Yes you can engrave metal tools with it.
Was wondering if you put a long piece of wood or slate on the extender table 4inch x 12 inch could it engrave right across it?
Yes it can.
@@MoonpieCreations I owned a big laser cutter years ago. Never done anything onto metal. Has anything changed. I heard you had to coat the metal?
Thanks for the video, Do you know if it is possible with the xTool F1 to engrave texts on a large surface by moving the device for each engraving step while maintaining the alignment of the texts?
Only with the slide piece I showed can you make larger letters. Unfortunately it's not made for larger items.
Thanks for your answer and your videos@@MoonpieCreations
Is it possible to add patterns to the tiny gold block necklace instead of words?
also,
doesn't the f1 make more sense than the d1? quality wise
You should have no problem with making designs on he neckless, just remember you can only engrave so small. As for which one makes sense, it all depends on what you are doing. The D1 is great for larger cuts while to F1 is better for smaller projects. Well that's my opinion anyway.
Do you think it's strong enough to do a lower receiver?
I haven't tried that yet, but I don't see why not. The IR should work fine. If I come across someone who has done it I will let you know.
If it removed rust from the pliers, it should work on a receiver. Most of them are coated in black oxide.
The one question I have is are there any machines that are able to be ran, including design phase from an iPad Pro or are they all from laptops?
xTool has creative space. But it is limited. I don't think I have seen a comprehensive design tool for iPad from any LASER maker.
I run xTool creative space from my IPad Pro. You can even run it from your phone.
What are those "tiles" that you are using?
Those are Slate Coasters. You can get them on amazon here amzn.to/3PZTUPm
I thought that the f1 was not compatible with lightburn? Could you clarify please?
Check out this article from xTool support support.xtool.com/article/496?from=xTool%2BF1&url=/product/2&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyeWrBhDDARIsAGP1mWTyfu9XdTb5HcUn3b9qTXNCXuTPxhsaI97woxBKDlYaB5eOrbx_kz0aAm8wEALw_wcB
Can the xTool F1 be used to mark black ABS plastic similar to the way it marks acrylic?
ABS emits cyanide gas (HCN), which is deadly. It is not recommended to use with a laser.
@MoonpieCreations
It also releases chlorine gas, it will also kill you. Once that gas and the tiny particles of it settle, any moisture will convert that hydrochloric acid. This includes your skin.
Hows the fumes from this? Pretty strong?
No more than any other laser, but when I use the filter I get nothing at all.
Have you engraved in a black to gold patch? I can’t get the settings correct
Sorry I haven't yet.
Does this system have a camera ? To see the media you're going to cut/engrave ?
Sorry it does not. But it does have a laser outline function
The laser preview is way better than a camera as far as I can tell.
Great video Ken, awesome machine even with some of the cons.I feel like the pros still outweigh them. Can I have it 🤣
Haha, I'll have to opt out of this one.
@@MoonpieCreations had to try 🤣
Ok so going by the time you give at 8:15 this is in the same speed range as a D1 Pro 20w doing slate?
Yes, but I have seen on the FB groups people who have dial it in and it took 53 sec to do a coaster.
@@MoonpieCreations Nice.. How does it do with ceramic tile/coasters? That is the one thing no one shows on any of the reviews.
I never tried one. Sorry.
@@MoonpieCreations All good, it was worth a shot. Thank you for your time.
Hi,
Do you think it is possible to engrave 9x12 cutting boards and possibly other wood pieces that are about 12x12 with the extension attachment?
I'm not sure they would balance on the extension. It's only 4' or so wide.
Will this work on wool hats?
Sorry I have never tried this. Maybe someone will see this comment and answer. Or there is an F1 facebook group you could check with.
can be used on curved surfaces?
I used it on a few flasks. Just have to have the setting good.
@@MoonpieCreations
you could write something on the handle of an art brush. then we'll see if the machine is good for this... the painted handle... let's say black, green.
That price is a little ridiculous compared to what other comparable lasers go for
When comparing lasers you have to compare apples to apples. It needs to be portable and have both an IR/Fiber laser and diode laser. It also needs to have have accessories. With that in mind the only comparable laser to the xTool F1 IMO is the Woodpecker 4. It runs on sale for $1799 normal price $1999. While the xTool F1 runs $1599 base price. There are several YT channels that have run head to head comparisons on those. The xTool F1 is faster, more precise and is easier to use for repeatable cuts. Although the WP4 does have a larger cutting area, it doesn't make up for the rice difference IMO. Now this is just what I have seen since I have never used one before. Now do I think the prices of these lasers are over the top....well yes and maybe these lasers aren't for hobbyist, but those prices will come down over time. I let a friend use my F1 for a craft show for there bike club in Florida last month. They pulled in a profit of over $1900 over 3 days, that's three times as much as any other show they have gone too. The F1 allowed them to engrave a lot faster and better than there Longer laser did. As soon as they got back they ordered a new F1 and they have also ordered an S1. What I am getting at is these machines are an investment in your business. You can make your money back on them. Again this is just my opinion.
@@MoonpieCreations oh I have no doubt that it will pay itself off. What I meant was that it seems like a big part of the price is for the form factor/portability and not for the power/capabilities of the machine itself? But I'm not an expert. Either way, not a criticism of your review
As a hobbyist, I just bought the XTool D1 instead because it seems like a more versatile machine for making good quality things that are bigger than the F1 can fit (even if it does it slower)
@@AndrewLaSane Yes the D1 is an excellent machine. I hope you enjoy it.
I hate my "smart" phone, what the heck am I goina do with that? It might improve my shooting if I draw a target on it...
Unfortunately I have two smart phones. Personal and work. lol
What is the expected longevity of this 2k machine?
Depending on use 10,000 hrs
@@MoonpieCreations great video! What happens after 10,000 hours? 😳 Do you need to replace any parts or get a new laser? Also, if you need to get parts replaced, which parts and how much do they cost (in the USA)? Thank you.
@@lindascraftsandthings915 10k hrs is a long time but sometime the lasers wear out. Happens in all lasers. If one of the two lasers stops workings you will have to replace them. xTool has pretty good tech support and can get you any part you need. At least that is my experience. Cost I guess would depend on which part, but I couldn't tell you how much for them.
How much does the ink cost?
Ink?
@@MoonpieCreations The laser uses ink, like a laser printer?
@@MLB9000no it uses light amplification to burn the image
How does this machine compare to a Fiber Mopa Laser?
Unfortunately I have never used one of those.
Mopas can do color. That made me happy.
The strong shall stand..
The weak will fall by the wayside!
Ok how Infantry man proof is it ?
Safty notes
I worked with them for 23 yess as rd and it survived me.
You could have just cleared the rust off for your logo on the pliers. lol.
Haha, where were you when I was doing the review? Great idea!
Not sure how I posted from my Review account. lol
Great video...What I don't like is the annoying beep...Even my dog hates it...And if you find it pricey,you're lucky you don't live in Canada...It cost more,way more.
I have been trying to mute the beep too. lol I hate when governments get greedy, but hey you have free health care right? (Sorry that was a bad joke. I know you guys pay a hefty tax on earning to pay for that health care.)
@@MoonpieCreations The next XCS update we will be able to turn off the annoying beep...
TACP!!!!!
Gung-ho!
Crap, more tools I have to buy 😅
I have this feeling a lot. Unfortunately my business account if empty at the moment. Been a rough 9 months for MPC.
@@MoonpieCreations I'm really sorry to hear that and certainly relate. I had back surgery 2 months ago and I'm just now starting to get back to my hobbies and my job in a couple weeks. I hope things turn around for you soon!
Hard to make money with these since everyone on TH-cam is telling everyone you can make easy cash. Went to a show and 10 people had them on tables. There 100's of channels now with CASH on the thumbnail... Only people making any cash are the channels. Well maybe for a short time since everyone is doing it.
I guess it's how you approach it. As with everything you need to find a niche, whether it's this LASER of any other. I can make $25 profit off 4 slate coasters. I market to my military buddies with a military logos on them. I usually get around 100 orders for them over Christmas. For Slim 20z tumblers I make $20 profit and sell about 25-30 over Christmas. Just because everyone is doing it don't get discouraged. Just find something people may want and do it better.
Aren’t military logos copyrighted by the DOD?
@@JANJOHNSON59 They sure are. The TACP Flash and Crest are considered public domain.
Better yet just dont waste your time and money on a junky toy.
Hmmmm If you feel this is a toy then I agree you shouldn't waste your money.