If you a landscape photographer this is the lens to go, I previously owned the 17-40, and used a lot the 16-35 F2.8 has well and this lens is just overall sharper more precise and better, the price difference between 17-40 and this one is totally worth it if you are serious into your photography.
Saw this review 3 years ago, wanted to step up from my cheap 18-55 kitlens and 50 1.8 at the time and bought this lens. Since then my photography career started, and although I mostly carry my L-primes this is still one of my favorites. Thanks Darren.
Thank you for this well done and informative review. You say that AF-speed does not matter that much on a wide angel lens, but at that point I would like to mention that I can imagine a lot of situations where fast and accurate AF can be crucial. Wide angel is often used in sports photography like mountainbiking (DH) or skateboarding. I personally often shoot street and reportage, where quick af is also essential, so it is not only nice to have on this lens, but in fact e real advantage towards the competitors. If I get myself this new lens I will use it in the streets a lot as well as for landscapes and architecture.
Darren, I love your thought process and this review is probably one of the best ive seen on this lense. Can you possible compare this with Canon 16-35mm 2.8 III ? Thank you!
Hi Darren, my name in Mirko and i live in Italy. I usually work with canon equipment (5dii and 5diii) and i often look for different lenses to test and try for different conditions. I find your reviews are really interesting and usefull, i like them!
Great video Darren, and I was very impressed with your room interior shots. For the natural light ones are you just under exposing for the room and then pushing the shadows in post? And when do you use flash for interiors, do you gel to match room lights? I did rent the 16-35 f4 IS for a gig and was blown away by the corner sharpness on my 6D, the contrast and colour too, amazing lens!
Thank you for the kind words - my setup for interiors would probably surprise - camera, tri-pod, one on camera flash. It's just layering in photoshop... Expose for the windows, expose for the room, flash the window frames, then layer in photoshop... No gel matching. I could, but we run a very high volume shop down here and going through all the steps - be it lighting or using gels to match interior lighting is impractical. I can shoot a 6,000 square foot home in under an hour. The 16-35 f/4 IS, is a fantastic lens!! Love it!
Ian Brookes Yes, of course. When you expose for the windows (i.e what's outside the windows), the window frames get very dark - almost silhouetted - I aim the flash at the windows while I'm exposing for the outside to make sure when I'm layering - the window frames aren't black and featureless - even white window frames can look black if you don't flash them and layer them in. Hope that helps!
:) great .. I've just ordered it today - after 8 yrs of real estate on 16-35mki and 17-40. Looking forward to it. Is there a marked difference in contrast glow problems on high contrast borders (eg. windows) ?
An EXCELLENT review Darren! I have not yet, seen one bad review for this fantastic lens Unfortunately, I purchased the 16-35L f/2.8 MKII in February, a bundle with my new EOS 5D MKIII and though not a bad lens, it does not compare at all with the 24-70 MKII and the 70-200 MKII. I also purchased the MK I version, back in late 2002 and that one did not "deliver the goods" and was sold off in 2006. The 16-35L f/2.8 MKII lens is going to be sold on Ebay, and I have ordered the new f/4 from Amazon. Looking forward to it's delivery!
Of the various reviews of this lens that I have watched, this analysis is logically presented, based on data and comprehensive making it the best review that I have seen so far. Great job. As you point out, the lens body is built from plastic. If it were constructed of metal instead it would likely be heavier. Speaking for myself, I would make the trade-off to have a weight savings.
Hi Darren, thank you for precised review of the Canon 16-35mm F4L. I wanted to get this lens for my landscape photography hobby and after watching your review, I decided to get this lens over the 16-35mm F2.8L II. Look forward to watching further camera gear review from you.
Excellent review Darren! i only wish you make a review of the Canon 17-40 f4L...what you say about this almost "classic" lens of Canon? i have it on my 6D and i love it so far...best regards Darren
Only one image in this video - at 7:18 - was done with HDR software. Several were layered in Photoshop, but they were specifically not HDR. The photo at 6:47 is a single exposure.
Darren, thanks for the video! I also shoot primarily real estate photography and am using the F2.8 version. I'm a little disappointed in the sharpness at times, especially the soft corners... Can you tell me if the F4 would be a better fit for me when shooting interiors?
Sid Phadnis www.casanissei.com/produto/2-lente-canon-efs-1635mm-f4--is-usm-38784.html its un Paraguay... Actually there are a lots of lenses that are dar cheaper than amazón.com
Thanks Darren for another great lens review! I bought this lens after watching this video and I totally agree with your comments. Can I ask, what camera/lens do you shoot your videos with? Kind regards
Hi Darren, Thank you for the review. I have a Canon 70D. I am thinkig of buying 16-35mm F4 IS vs 24-70 F4 IS. Which one would you recommend between these two for videos and photos?
I don't get why everyone wants a metal lens. These things are heavy enough, and there's no reason to believe that metal will better protect the lens than high-quality plastic. I want beautiful, high quality plastic, not metal.
Hey Darren, firstly great review. My wife and I photograph interiors that are designed for Romantic Scene Settings for a book we are creating in which the scenes are created 50% in "well lit" situations and 50% in "very low lit situations" (example: low lit candle situations). Our Question for you is: if you had to choose between this lens (Canon EF 16-35mm f/4 IS L) or the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L ii lens for these types of interior shooting scenes, keeping in mind that at least 50% of the scenes we will be shooting will be low light situations which require a lot of details all throughout the picture to be in focus, then which lens would you choose? Also, we use Canon 5d Mark iii bodies.
Hello Darren and thank you for the review. I am considering this lens to replace my 24 1.4L for landscape shooting, not just for the ultra wide advantage but also the versatility of the zoom. My only concern is sharpness vs. my prime 24. I am okay with loosing speed since I am usually >f4 anyways. What are your thoughts?
Ianre, I have the GH4 and LOVE it! I like the EM1 more for stills, and I like the GH4 more for video - both are amazing, but that 4K, and the ability to do great stills sets the GH4 apart, I just wish some of the more pertinent functions were more readily accessible - I guess I wish I could have Olympus ergonomics combined with the GH4's 4K ability, THAT would be epic!
I am just entering the real estate video market after doing stills for years. Just ordered this lens based on overall performance. Do you think I will miss 2.8 for dimly lit rooms during video ? 5dmkiii body. Thanks :)
Darren, what a great review. I always look for your review when I am looking to buy a new lens. You convince people, at least me, to buy or not to buy. Nicely done! Keep up the good work. Thanks!
nice review.. but i think moving camera while you explained focus speed and accuracy kinda distracting, I cant help but notice the moving background. btw, whats ur next review on the list? **cough** **nocticron** **cough** :DDD
Interesting comment - trying to add some cinematic production value - and trying out Kessler's Parallax system. Nocticron (the 42.5mm f/1.2 variety) is on the list in the near future :-)
tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and sigma Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC i use this 2 and i do love this both really also i want to get Macro lens ! Darren can you do review about macro lens please! thank you.
Jango - I reviewed the zeiss 50mm macro - canon has the 60mm for ef-s - which is kinda on my radar, it's just that lens has been out for awhile... We'll see! But check out the zeiss review, great lens, amazing build stellar optics, but it isn't cheap - but it used for about 66% of the original cost,,,,
Hey Darren, awesome review! I'm torn between the Canon 16-35 f/4L IS and Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 Art lens. I currently own the Canon 7D Mark II but may upgrade to a full frame camera next year (I'd keep the 7D regardless). Which would you choose? Does the faster aperture, build quality and image quality of the Sigma trump the Canon's faster focusing motor and image stabilization? With canon's $100 rebate, the price difference is only $200. Thanks!
Chelsea McNamara Thank you! Really depends on what you're planning on using them for. If you plan on upgrading to full frame and you shoot a lot of landscape, then get the 16-35 f/4, if you're handholding at events indoors or at night, I'd push for the 18-35 as the f/1.8 is a bit of a game changer - especially in a zoom...
Darren Miles Mostly for landscapes and night shots of stars. I guess I want to fully utilize the capabilities of my 7D. Thanks so much for your response.
9:50 those stock outside replacements are atrocious and all identical. Hopefully you've at least gotten some variety since this video. Otherwise, thanks for the review
Hey Darren, i'm looking at the Tamron 35 VC, Sigma 18-35, the Canon 35 f2 and the 16-35 f4 IS USM L. i've heard the Sigma has serious AF issues with the camera i use (80D) and i'm a bit hesitant to invest that much money into a lens which might not work properly with my camera. is the IQ advantage of the L lens that much more significant than the other two lenses that i should forget about its smaller aperture? Curious to see which one would you pick out of the 16-35, the Tamron 35 vc and the 35 f2.
+Darren Miles thanks so much! I'm trying to film myself like you are, but I have the 50mm 1.2 and 5D3 and it won't let me stay in focus without having to be right up front with my face only. do you think the 24-70mm II would help with this problem? I don't want to go back to the 70D so it stays auto focused. Thanks a million!
Sadly with me, the price of a lens is nothing rational (when I can afford it somehow, and photography is only a HOBBY for me...) but it's more about emotions and nerdism. I WANT that lens (because it has a red ring and looks good?)... well, of course, if the performance would be poor, that's also a deal breaker for me. I had a Tokina 12-28 once and the CAs were horrendous as well as the flare performance, which was even more nasty. Never again ~.
Will it work for Vlogging on canon 800d/t7i and give that blurring background and widened too please reply and will it be on the same aperture which is f4
+TukTuk Syko Wedding and landscape sure - portraits - only environmental portraits, as the subject will likely get lost in the scene unless you're up close and personal with them...
Hi Darren, Good Review. In your opinion, if you had to buy either the Carl Zeiss f2.0 macro or this lense ( Canon 16-35mm f/4 IS L) which would you buy? I know it depends on what MM you need, but if you had to choose, which one you choose as you've used and interviewed both? Thanks
Hey Russell, that's really an apples vs oranges comparison. Depends so much on what you plan on doing with the lens. If I were primarily a real estate or landscape photographer then no question I would get the Canon. If however, you were more into shooting people, then I would go with the 50mm. The 50 is a bit more versatile, but keep in mind the Zeiss can be hard to use if your subject isnt standing still as you have to manually focus and it can be difficult to get sharp focused photos with that lens consistently... I'd rather know what you're planning on shooting with the lens than make a flat out recommendation....
Hi Darren, thanks for the review. I've just ordered this lens a few days ago and I'm sure I will like it very much. Do you happen to know the name of the song and artist of the music that starts at 6:45? I would like to use the music in one of my future videos so if you know where I can get a license that would be awesome. Thanks.
I need wide angle lens for wedding but mostly for events or portrait but im not sure which one is better 16-35 2.8 ii or 16-35 f/4 can you help thanks :)
Malik Haseeb Ahmad indoor events, get the f/2.8, outdoor events get the f/4.... Whichever one can get you to a minimum of 1/125th of a second without huge amounts ISO....
truknayr23 On a 7D, you're looking at an equivalent field of view of 25.6mm to 56mm - which makes it less of an ultra wide - and more wide to normal field of view. That said, it's still a great lens that will give you wide shots, but in order to take full advantage of the lens's capabilities, you really want to use it on a Full Frame camera (6D, 5D3, 1Dx e.g.) On a 7D I might suggest either the EF-S 10-18, the Canon 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 or the Tokina 11-16...
Darren Miles Appreciate the reply man. Thanks... gonna make this lens as my kit replacement. I live near a beach and have my shots 80% of the time in the beach. i need a kit that is weather sealed.
Thanks for your reply. I have just watched a comparison video by another of my favourite reviewers (Matthew Gore) and he clearly states the flare problem is fine with Canon but poor with Tamron. My use for this lens is large groups at weddings where 2.8 is not really a problem outdoors.BUT living in England shooting outdoors is not always possible,which means shooting indoors. Indoors there will always be either light coming through windows or wall and ceiling lights. Would this change your opinion? I would not use my Canon for Landscapes as i have a Fugi XT2 for that, once again thank you for your time, Steve.
Jakelol1980 Thank you! Some are, some are not - hence the difference between "Optical Quality" and "Quality of Results" - I like to give a variety of both to show what the lens can do and what's possible.
I wouldn't as the 7D is a crop sensor camera and you really wouldn't be able to take advantage of the lens's abilities to their fullest. As the Field of View Crop factor would make this lens look and act like a 25.6mm - 56mm - still wide, just not ultra wide. If you wanted an equivalent field of view, I would opt for the 10-18, 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 11-16 as they are designed to be ultra wides on your 7D. You'll lose some aperture with the 10-18, 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 and you'll gain some aperture with the 11-16....
Duh, my bad, I misunderstood the question, sorry :-) In that case, then yes, it'd be great! The only downside is the f/4 aperture. Good for lower light, not so good for low light without crushing the ISO and the 7D isn't known for it's high ISO prowess - at least not by today's standards anyway. Anyway you cut it, the 16-35 f/4 is a piece of awesome from Canon!
That's tough - I'd actually consider the Tamron 15-30 too... The 11-24 is great, but is kinda meh from 11-13mm... The 16-35 f/4 IS is awesome, haven't tried the 16-35 Mark iii yet though...
Actually, I was referring to the 16-35 MK III. I feel that by itself the 16-35mm is a better range than 11-24mm, but then I'm missing out on some ultra-wide 11-15mm shots, which I admire. I've considered the Sigma 12-24mm Art too, but the reviews are mostly mediocre. Will check out the Tamron 15-30, but in general I want the best of the best, however, I agree it's a bit overkill to pay 2x the price for minor improvements.
Ironic video. I'm new to Naples and just picked up a 6D as well. I ran across this vid because I was looking into the 16-35 or the 17-40 or the 16-28 tokina. I don't like the bulb element and flare reviews from the tokina, yet the new Tamron 15-35 looks pretty nice. I do real estate work but haven't yet in Naples/Marco. If you guys are looking for apprentices or help, let me know. Here's my flickr www.flickr.com/photos/94160763@N06/
When will you guys realise you get what you pay for in life and this lens is no different. In fact have you seen what these are selling for used? Forget 3rd party Wannabees they are not in same league as Canon and Nikon etc
I think all major retailers. I know both Amazon and Best Buy. I just ordered one through Best Buy. I was thinking about the SP 15-30MM F/2.8 Di VC USD, as it gets amazing reviews, but need the ability to put a polarizer filter on it for landscapes.
is this your fave lens for real estate? Now that I just spent my savings on the 24-70 I've been asked to help a couple friends with some real estate photos. Whats your suggestion? Save up for this one or is there a decent alternative?? What would you do? I'm interested in your "camp miles" educational video. I will have to check that out. www.denisereneephtotgraphy.com
For Real Estate photography - in my humble opinion - this is the best Canon lens in the lineup and it's a toss up between this lens and the Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 VC - both are excellent - the Canon will hold it's value better... Check out Camp Miles - totally worth it :-) Use CODE: FB92017 and save yourself some cash too!
Denise Terrazas another alternative you may want to consider is a refurbished lens from Canon. An EF 16-35mm f/4 USM sell for $879 and an EF 16-35 f/2.8 ll USM goes for $1,279.00 both are refurbished. For $1,759.00 you can get the new f/2.8 lll USM refurbished. All Canon refurbished lenses come with a one year limited warranty.
Hey Darren! Would you recommend this lens for a 7D M i? I know that due to the crop factor it will be more like 25-60mm, but thats good for me. I'm doing landscapes and portraits. Sometimes also nightsky/astrophotography. The question is, is it worth to lose the aperture for sharer pictures? Because with a 2.8 or 1.8 (Sigma 18-35) Lens I can get more light on the sensor, but do I really need it? And how about the Bokeh of the 16-35 L Lens?
If you a landscape photographer this is the lens to go, I previously owned the 17-40, and used a lot the 16-35 F2.8 has well and this lens is just overall sharper more precise and better, the price difference between 17-40 and this one is totally worth it if you are serious into your photography.
Saw this review 3 years ago, wanted to step up from my cheap 18-55 kitlens and 50 1.8 at the time and bought this lens. Since then my photography career started, and although I mostly carry my L-primes this is still one of my favorites. Thanks Darren.
Thank you sir!
Looks like a great landscape lens. I think I’m getting this and the Tokina Opera 50mm 1.4
nice guy, nice presentation. Thanks and Congratulations.
Thank you for this well done and informative review.
You say that AF-speed does not matter that much on a wide angel lens, but at that point I would like to
mention that I can imagine a lot of situations where fast and accurate AF can be crucial.
Wide angel is often used in sports photography like mountainbiking (DH) or skateboarding.
I personally often shoot street and reportage, where quick af is also essential, so it is not only nice to have on this lens,
but in fact e real advantage towards the competitors.
If I get myself this new lens I will use it in the streets a lot as well as for landscapes and architecture.
Intelligent yet informative video.
Thanks for the review of the 16-35mm f4 IS L lens. I would get this lens for land scape and size and use on the EOPS 5D mark II or III camera.
Darren, I love your thought process and this review is probably one of the best ive seen on this lense. Can you possible compare this with Canon 16-35mm 2.8 III ? Thank you!
Hi Darren, my name in Mirko and i live in Italy. I usually work with canon equipment (5dii and 5diii) and i often look for different lenses to test and try for different conditions. I find your reviews are really interesting and usefull, i like them!
Grazie!! Thank you for the kind words!! I love Italy!
Great video Darren, and I was very impressed with your room interior shots. For the natural light ones are you just under exposing for the room and then pushing the shadows in post? And when do you use flash for interiors, do you gel to match room lights?
I did rent the 16-35 f4 IS for a gig and was blown away by the corner sharpness on my 6D, the contrast and colour too, amazing lens!
Thank you for the kind words - my setup for interiors would probably surprise - camera, tri-pod, one on camera flash. It's just layering in photoshop... Expose for the windows, expose for the room, flash the window frames, then layer in photoshop... No gel matching. I could, but we run a very high volume shop down here and going through all the steps - be it lighting or using gels to match interior lighting is impractical. I can shoot a 6,000 square foot home in under an hour.
The 16-35 f/4 IS, is a fantastic lens!! Love it!
Great tips! Can I just ask what do you mean 'flash the window frames'?
Ian Brookes Yes, of course. When you expose for the windows (i.e what's outside the windows), the window frames get very dark - almost silhouetted - I aim the flash at the windows while I'm exposing for the outside to make sure when I'm layering - the window frames aren't black and featureless - even white window frames can look black if you don't flash them and layer them in. Hope that helps!
Hi Darrem!. Do you have any online course where you explain your Real States work techiques? thank you very much
Am shooting with 17-40mm f/4 for half decade and recently upgrade to this lens and found the image quality way better, I should have it much earlier.
:) great .. I've just ordered it today - after 8 yrs of real estate on 16-35mki and 17-40. Looking forward to it. Is there a marked difference in contrast glow problems on high contrast borders (eg. windows) ?
Paul FanMing I had the same experience as you. I think the 16-35 is much better.
An EXCELLENT review Darren!
I have not yet, seen one bad review for this fantastic lens
Unfortunately, I purchased the 16-35L f/2.8 MKII in February, a bundle with my new EOS 5D MKIII and though not a bad lens, it does not compare at all with the 24-70 MKII and the 70-200 MKII.
I also purchased the MK I version, back in late 2002 and that one did not "deliver the goods" and was sold off in 2006.
The 16-35L f/2.8 MKII lens is going to be sold on Ebay, and I have ordered the new f/4 from Amazon.
Looking forward to it's delivery!
Of the various reviews of this lens that I have watched, this analysis is logically presented, based on data and comprehensive making it the best review that I have seen so far. Great job.
As you point out, the lens body is built from plastic. If it were constructed of metal instead it would likely be heavier. Speaking for myself, I would make the trade-off to have a weight savings.
John C What a kind thing to say, thanks John!
Hi Darren, thank you for precised review of the Canon 16-35mm F4L. I wanted to get this lens for my landscape photography hobby and after watching your review, I decided to get this lens over the 16-35mm F2.8L II. Look forward to watching further camera gear review from you.
Thanks Bao!
Darren's like my favourite TH-camr
Always with great reviews. Just bought the 16-35, it's great on the 7D
Thank you very much!!
Noah Nakamura the pp
I love this lens Thanks for great review
Hi Daren, Thank you for this very informative review! I also wonder which lens did you use in 3:35 ?
Great review I'm still debating between this lens and the Tamron 15-30. Can you possibly do a comparison video?
did you decide which one you got?
Very nice reviewed.
Thank you sir!
Excellent review Darren! i only wish you make a review of the Canon 17-40 f4L...what you say about this almost "classic" lens of Canon? i have it on my 6D and i love it so far...best regards Darren
How do you get the outside of the windows so clear and properly exposed?!?! Awesome job! Do you use photoshop to do that or is there a trick??
5 years later... what is your main lens nowadays? (for indoor real estate)
Many L lenses require a filter to complete sealing, not terribly surprising.
From 6:47, I do not understanding the purpose talking about a lense capability with HDR fotos as samples!!
Anyway, I am gonna buy this beauty.
Only one image in this video - at 7:18 - was done with HDR software. Several were layered in Photoshop, but they were specifically not HDR. The photo at 6:47 is a single exposure.
HDR is ugly really isn't it. Its a 90's thing I think.. Ambient mixed with flash is the way to go.
Nice vid, Darren Miles! Keep up your good work for i am a subscriber...
Thank you!
Great video! Exactly what I was looking for! PS. Great job on the video, too!
Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for this video!
Darren, thanks for the video! I also shoot primarily real estate photography and am using the F2.8 version. I'm a little disappointed in the sharpness at times, especially the soft corners... Can you tell me if the F4 would be a better fit for me when shooting interiors?
Great review Darren. What lens do you shoot your videos with? Love the output.
Thank you! Pretty sure this was shot on a GH4 with an Olympus 75mm f/1.8
Thank you sir. Appreciated.
Nice Review.
You will love to know that the 16-35 F4 now is 910USD. Really good price and make the 17-40 F4 irrelevant.
Marko Nara I've seen that, worth every penny - awesome lens!
Where can you find this price?
Sid Phadnis www.casanissei.com/produto/2-lente-canon-efs-1635mm-f4--is-usm-38784.html its un Paraguay... Actually there are a lots of lenses that are dar cheaper than amazón.com
Any chance of a review for the 17 or 24mm TS lenses for Canon? From a RE/architectural prospective?
Thanks Darren for another great lens review! I bought this lens after watching this video and I totally agree with your comments. Can I ask, what camera/lens do you shoot your videos with? Kind regards
It's a combination of the 5d3 with the 70-200 f/2.8 mark ii and the panasonic gh4 with the 75 f/1.8
Thanks for the kind words on the review!
Hello Darren
Great review again, I bought this lens but found that windows still blow out, you said this lens helps to stop this. Can you help please?
Can you please share your views comparing the Canon 16-35 LII versus the Canon 16-35mm LIII. Thanks!
Hi Darren, Thank you for the review. I have a Canon 70D. I am thinkig of buying 16-35mm F4 IS vs 24-70 F4 IS. Which one would you recommend between these two for videos and photos?
Great video! Are you planning to review the new canon 16-35mm lll?
Yes!
I don't get why everyone wants a metal lens. These things are heavy enough, and there's no reason to believe that metal will better protect the lens than high-quality plastic. I want beautiful, high quality plastic, not metal.
Hey Darren, firstly great review. My wife and I photograph interiors that are designed for Romantic Scene Settings for a book we are creating in which the scenes are created 50% in "well lit" situations and 50% in "very low lit situations" (example: low lit candle situations). Our Question for you is: if you had to choose between this lens (Canon EF 16-35mm f/4 IS L) or the Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L ii lens for these types of interior shooting scenes, keeping in mind that at least 50% of the scenes we will be shooting will be low light situations which require a lot of details all throughout the picture to be in focus, then which lens would you choose? Also, we use Canon 5d Mark iii bodies.
It sure is SUNNY in Naples, Florida :)
Indeed it is...
How would you compare barrel distortion between this and Tamron 15-30mm
its what i want to know. i heard that 15-30 is heavy
Hello Darren and thank you for the review. I am considering this lens to replace my 24 1.4L for landscape shooting, not just for the ultra wide advantage but also the versatility of the zoom. My only concern is sharpness vs. my prime 24. I am okay with loosing speed since I am usually >f4 anyways. What are your thoughts?
Darren if possible can you let us know how this compares to the new Tamron 15-30mm VC g2?
hi Darren. are u goin to do a GH4 review? really wanna here you view.
Ianre, I have the GH4 and LOVE it! I like the EM1 more for stills, and I like the GH4 more for video - both are amazing, but that 4K, and the ability to do great stills sets the GH4 apart, I just wish some of the more pertinent functions were more readily accessible - I guess I wish I could have Olympus ergonomics combined with the GH4's 4K ability, THAT would be epic!
What lens did you use to film this video! It's amazing!
Pretty sure GH4 with the Olympus 75mm f/1.8
why dont it come with the protect filter??????
I am just entering the real estate video market after doing stills for years. Just ordered this lens based on overall performance. Do you think I will miss 2.8 for dimly lit rooms during video ? 5dmkiii body. Thanks :)
Darren, what a great review. I always look for your review when I am looking to buy a new lens. You convince people, at least me, to buy or not to buy. Nicely done! Keep up the good work. Thanks!
Thank you very much!
nice review.. but i think moving camera while you explained focus speed and accuracy kinda distracting, I cant help but notice the moving background.
btw, whats ur next review on the list? **cough** **nocticron** **cough** :DDD
Interesting comment - trying to add some cinematic production value - and trying out Kessler's Parallax system. Nocticron (the 42.5mm f/1.2 variety) is on the list in the near future :-)
tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and sigma Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC i use this 2 and i do love this both really also i want to get Macro lens ! Darren can you do review about macro lens please! thank you.
Jango - I reviewed the zeiss 50mm macro - canon has the 60mm for ef-s - which is kinda on my radar, it's just that lens has been out for awhile... We'll see! But check out the zeiss review, great lens, amazing build stellar optics, but it isn't cheap - but it used for about 66% of the original cost,,,,
Thank you Darren i will check now but is it fit on nikon mounth zeiss ?
Yes!! :-)
What lens are you using when you are in front of the camera talking?
Craig Kilborn is into photography now?
Timedog man’s gotta eat! I’ve heard him and Josh Homme quite a bit
Hey Darren, awesome review! I'm torn between the Canon 16-35 f/4L IS and Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 Art lens. I currently own the Canon 7D Mark II but may upgrade to a full frame camera next year (I'd keep the 7D regardless). Which would you choose? Does the faster aperture, build quality and image quality of the Sigma trump the Canon's faster focusing motor and image stabilization? With canon's $100 rebate, the price difference is only $200. Thanks!
Chelsea McNamara Thank you! Really depends on what you're planning on using them for. If you plan on upgrading to full frame and you shoot a lot of landscape, then get the 16-35 f/4, if you're handholding at events indoors or at night, I'd push for the 18-35 as the f/1.8 is a bit of a game changer - especially in a zoom...
Darren Miles Mostly for landscapes and night shots of stars. I guess I want to fully utilize the capabilities of my 7D. Thanks so much for your response.
9:50 those stock outside replacements are atrocious and all identical. Hopefully you've at least gotten some variety since this video.
Otherwise, thanks for the review
Hey Darren, i'm looking at the Tamron 35 VC, Sigma 18-35, the Canon 35 f2 and the 16-35 f4 IS USM L.
i've heard the Sigma has serious AF issues with the camera i use (80D) and i'm a bit hesitant to invest that much money into a lens which might not work properly with my camera.
is the IQ advantage of the L lens that much more significant than the other two lenses that i should forget about its smaller aperture?
Curious to see which one would you pick out of the 16-35, the Tamron 35 vc and the 35 f2.
Hey Darren! Awesome video.
What camera and lens did you use to film yourself?
Thanks!
+KING LIV Thanks King, I'm about 95% sure it was shot with the 5D3 and the 70-200mm f/2.8 Mark ii Lens.
+Darren Miles thanks so much! I'm trying to film myself like you are, but I have the 50mm 1.2 and 5D3 and it won't let me stay in focus without having to be right up front with my face only. do you think the 24-70mm II would help with this problem? I don't want to go back to the 70D so it stays auto focused. Thanks a million!
+KING LIV You'll need a slightly longer lens - perhaps the 85 f/1.8? Or the Sigma 85mm f/1.4?
+Darren Miles thank you so much!!! :)
Really dig your videos man. Unbiased and extremely informative, Thank you once again.
Thanks Carl! Really Appreciate that!
what is the best aperture value for this lens, that will give sharp pictures for landscape photography?
f16
Can I use this lens on a Crop Sensor? I know it won't be a 16-35mm
***** Yes - it'll be sharp, but on the wide end you'll be around 25-26mm...
Hi Darren. I have a question and i hope you dont mind... but whats worth more buying a used canon 16to35mm 2.8 or a new 16to35 f4? Cheers .
Depends on the price of the f/2.8 and what you plan on doing with the lens....
What lens are you using to shoot this video? Thanks
Sadly with me, the price of a lens is nothing rational (when I can afford it somehow, and photography is only a HOBBY for me...) but it's more about emotions and nerdism. I WANT that lens (because it has a red ring and looks good?)... well, of course, if the performance would be poor, that's also a deal breaker for me. I had a Tokina 12-28 once and the CAs were horrendous as well as the flare performance, which was even more nasty. Never again ~.
Will it work for Vlogging on canon 800d/t7i and give that blurring background and widened too please reply and will it be on the same aperture which is f4
Hey Darren,
I have 70D. how is this lens for videos like portrait or wedding instead of landscape? i'm interested in videos more than photos.
+TukTuk Syko Wedding and landscape sure - portraits - only environmental portraits, as the subject will likely get lost in the scene unless you're up close and personal with them...
as you usually ....
what a tongue breaker 😂
HI do you find it's wide enough for real estate photography. I just wish it's a bit wider.
On a full frame sensor camera it's more than adequate, but I'm testing the 11-24 right now, and I really, really like it!
Any wider than 16 on FF and you are kinda distorting reality..
Hi Darren, Good Review. In your opinion, if you had to buy either the Carl Zeiss f2.0 macro or this lense ( Canon 16-35mm f/4 IS L) which would you buy? I know it depends on what MM you need, but if you had to choose, which one you choose as you've used and interviewed both? Thanks
Hey Russell, that's really an apples vs oranges comparison. Depends so much on what you plan on doing with the lens. If I were primarily a real estate or landscape photographer then no question I would get the Canon. If however, you were more into shooting people, then I would go with the 50mm. The 50 is a bit more versatile, but keep in mind the Zeiss can be hard to use if your subject isnt standing still as you have to manually focus and it can be difficult to get sharp focused photos with that lens consistently... I'd rather know what you're planning on shooting with the lens than make a flat out recommendation....
Thanks for the swift reply, it would mainly be for Film, but I do get asked to do photography occasionally.....
So film more than Photography...
Are you usually filming people or places? People, 50. Places, I'd go with the 16-35...
Hi Darren,
thanks for the review. I've just ordered this lens a few days ago and I'm sure I will like it very much. Do you happen to know the name of the song and artist of the music that starts at 6:45? I would like to use the music in one of my future videos so if you know where I can get a license that would be awesome. Thanks.
Marco Valk Marco, you're welcome! It's called R 2 U 2, and you can find it on premium beat.com.
Darren Miles Thank you!
I need wide angle lens for wedding but mostly for events or portrait but im not sure which one is better 16-35 2.8 ii or 16-35 f/4 can you help thanks :)
Malik Haseeb Ahmad indoor events, get the f/2.8, outdoor events get the f/4.... Whichever one can get you to a minimum of 1/125th of a second without huge amounts ISO....
Darren Miles weddings, portraits, party, what kind of lenses do you recommend me to get i can't buy to many, your video's really helpful for me thanks
Hi Darren. What is your take on making this lens my regular zoom lens for my 7D?
truknayr23 On a 7D, you're looking at an equivalent field of view of 25.6mm to 56mm - which makes it less of an ultra wide - and more wide to normal field of view. That said, it's still a great lens that will give you wide shots, but in order to take full advantage of the lens's capabilities, you really want to use it on a Full Frame camera (6D, 5D3, 1Dx e.g.) On a 7D I might suggest either the EF-S 10-18, the Canon 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 or the Tokina 11-16...
Darren Miles Appreciate the reply man. Thanks... gonna make this lens as my kit replacement. I live near a beach and have my shots 80% of the time in the beach. i need a kit that is weather sealed.
Hello, a good informative video.
I would be interested to know what the song is from minute 6:45?
Its called R 2 U 2 and you can get it at premium beat
Hi Darren, Is this lens good for Wedding Photography?
In an outdoor, well lit venue, absolutely yes - indoors in low light, not as good...
Which tripod do you use in the video?
How would you compare this lens to the Tamron 15-30mm 2.8,i will be going for 1 of them,thanks
OOOOOOhhh, that's a toughie... If I had to pick, probably the Tamron...
Thanks for your reply. I have just watched a comparison video by another of my favourite reviewers (Matthew Gore) and he clearly states the flare problem is fine with Canon but poor with Tamron. My use for this lens is large groups at weddings where 2.8 is not really a problem outdoors.BUT living in England shooting outdoors is not always possible,which means shooting indoors. Indoors there will always be either light coming through windows or wall and ceiling lights. Would this change your opinion? I would not use my Canon for Landscapes as i have a Fugi XT2 for that, once again thank you for your time, Steve.
Great review but i dont like that you show post production images :(
Jakelol1980 Thank you! Some are, some are not - hence the difference between "Optical Quality" and "Quality of Results" - I like to give a variety of both to show what the lens can do and what's possible.
Darren Miles I see. Good Review anyway :)
Im thinking about buying this lens as my main normal lens for my 7D, what do you Think about that?
I wouldn't as the 7D is a crop sensor camera and you really wouldn't be able to take advantage of the lens's abilities to their fullest. As the Field of View Crop factor would make this lens look and act like a 25.6mm - 56mm - still wide, just not ultra wide. If you wanted an equivalent field of view, I would opt for the 10-18, 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 11-16 as they are designed to be ultra wides on your 7D. You'll lose some aperture with the 10-18, 10-22, the Sigma 10-20 and you'll gain some aperture with the 11-16....
Thats just why i said it would be my normal lens.
Duh, my bad, I misunderstood the question, sorry :-) In that case, then yes, it'd be great! The only downside is the f/4 aperture. Good for lower light, not so good for low light without crushing the ISO and the 7D isn't known for it's high ISO prowess - at least not by today's standards anyway. Anyway you cut it, the 16-35 f/4 is a piece of awesome from Canon!
Perfect Review and Perfect Lens even tho i am using Sigma :)
Jango - are you using the 12-24?
do you recommend canon 80d body on 16-35 f4 lens?
No. You're better off with the Sigma 10-20, The Canon 10-22 or 10-18... If you had a full frame camera, then I'd spring for the 16-35 f/4...
i have 80d and canon 10-22 the edges are very very terrible, thats is a reson that i buy 6d + 16-35 lens
this lens fits to cannon t3i?
+Mahar lika Yes!
This dude looks so much like Jim Courier its not even funny...
Ben Porteous Hah! I'va actually heard that one before.
Great videos though Darren! Keep it up.
Can't decide between 16-35mm or 11-24mm. Already have 24-70mm II
That's tough - I'd actually consider the Tamron 15-30 too... The 11-24 is great, but is kinda meh from 11-13mm... The 16-35 f/4 IS is awesome, haven't tried the 16-35 Mark iii yet though...
Actually, I was referring to the 16-35 MK III. I feel that by itself the 16-35mm is a better range than 11-24mm, but then I'm missing out on some ultra-wide 11-15mm shots, which I admire.
I've considered the Sigma 12-24mm Art too, but the reviews are mostly mediocre. Will check out the Tamron 15-30, but in general I want the best of the best, however, I agree it's a bit overkill to pay 2x the price for minor improvements.
Ironic video. I'm new to Naples and just picked up a 6D as well. I ran across this vid because I was looking into the 16-35 or the 17-40 or the 16-28 tokina. I don't like the bulb element and flare reviews from the tokina, yet the new Tamron 15-35 looks pretty nice. I do real estate work but haven't yet in Naples/Marco. If you guys are looking for apprentices or help, let me know.
Here's my flickr www.flickr.com/photos/94160763@N06/
When will you guys realise you get what you pay for in life and this lens is no different. In fact have you seen what these are selling for used? Forget 3rd party Wannabees they are not in same league as Canon and Nikon etc
This lens is currently $999 retail.
Where? Steal of the century!
I think all major retailers. I know both Amazon and Best Buy. I just ordered one through Best Buy. I was thinking about the SP 15-30MM F/2.8 Di VC USD, as it gets amazing reviews, but need the ability to put a polarizer filter on it for landscapes.
is this your fave lens for real estate? Now that I just spent my savings on the 24-70 I've been asked to help a couple friends with some real estate photos. Whats your suggestion? Save up for this one or is there a decent alternative?? What would you do? I'm interested in your "camp miles" educational video. I will have to check that out. www.denisereneephtotgraphy.com
For Real Estate photography - in my humble opinion - this is the best Canon lens in the lineup and it's a toss up between this lens and the Tamron 15-30 f/2.8 VC - both are excellent - the Canon will hold it's value better... Check out Camp Miles - totally worth it :-) Use CODE: FB92017 and save yourself some cash too!
Denise Terrazas another alternative you may want to consider is a refurbished lens from Canon. An EF 16-35mm f/4 USM sell for $879 and an EF 16-35 f/2.8 ll USM goes for $1,279.00 both are refurbished. For $1,759.00 you can get the new f/2.8 lll USM refurbished. All Canon refurbished lenses come with a one year limited warranty.
You tend to slur here unusually. :)
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Great review as always Darren. Love love your review videos. Oh, and those pink pants, HOT! :P
Ha! Thanks Dev! They're actually faded red :-)
Hey Darren!
Would you recommend this lens for a 7D M i?
I know that due to the crop factor it will be more like 25-60mm, but thats good for me. I'm doing landscapes and portraits. Sometimes also nightsky/astrophotography. The question is, is it worth to lose the aperture for sharer pictures? Because with a 2.8 or 1.8 (Sigma 18-35) Lens I can get more light on the sensor, but do I really need it?
And how about the Bokeh of the 16-35 L Lens?