Mesa needs to stop demoing their own amps with Gibson folks. If I actually thought the Dual Rectumfier sounded like this, I wouldn't even ask to try it at the store. Same with my little Mark V 25. The Petrucci and Timmons demos absolutely sold me on that amp. The Boogie official demo made it sound like a Bassman with a tube screamer with a dead 9V.
Ahaha! here we go is right! The idiot does not even truly know that the different revisions have different parts/component values slightly to the circuit aside from how its laid out on the board. A billion techs can confirm each revision is slightly different with part values as well aside from layout. Unreal ....
@@kookoogearkook If you're going to interview Doug West who worked for Mesa for decades make sure you know your stuff. Mesas are not your typical amps. They tend to have a much more high-information per capita user base than Fender and Marshall.
The intro to Dogman is Godly. Pure heavy tone. Just the right amount of gain to make it sound heavy but not too much to stop that punch. For me the "secret" to Mesa amps is not over gaining them. Let the punch drive the sound and hit the strings like you stole the damn guitar. Size your amp correctly so you can run gain below 12 but the volume nowhere close to off or 9 oclock. I've known too many people that buy the Triple Recto's and they spend most of the time below 9 oclock on the master and wonder why the amp isn't punchy. Gotta let that amazing power section work a little. Don't just use half the amp (rely on the preamp and then don't turn the power section up.) For decades I "liked" bigger amps because they were bigger. I remember trying a Sykes a like Mark III Colosseum and using the settings that John was said to use. The next town called and told me to turn it down. Then I wondered why Michael Schenker loved 50 watt Marshalls and Brian May played 30 watt Vox. So I tried smaller amps. Mind blown. My new all time favorite amp that's great for a band plays bars or clubs situations is the Mark V 25. High gain on channel 1, gain on 12 oclock, master at 2 to 3 oclock - that's eargasm lead tone territory. Those little EL84's give that cranked Marshall tone on that channel and for me it's like Schenker at Budokan tone. 90 watts for this Recto is gonna be way way more than I'd ever need.
@ [Mix magazine i think] tabor's actual dogman racktifier settings: orange -to -modern: Treble 1:00 Mids dimed Bass 10:00 Presence low or off Gain 11:00
I like hearing the gamut of tones from this amp. There's only so much chugga-chugga I can stand to listen to. Of course the Recto can get super heavy tones!?!
Guys please, with all the respect. These amps are made for heavy tones, the vast part of your demand will came from heavy metal kinda players. Why insisting on this kind of demo? Would be this difficult to just put a heavy tone player for demo it? Honest point. Focus more on internal marketing.
LMAO, do these people understand their market? So many other better demo's out there of this and the MKIIC+. Who is uncharge of these videos? This is a metal amp. Do Metal things with it and mic it properly.
I'm more of a fan of Mesa boogie than I probably am of Ryan "Fluff", but I really hope you guys can work it out. Gibson, seems a bit overpriced for what they are, but none the less, are great guitars, also I pretty much feel the same about Mesa boogie, but regardless, they really are great amps. It's just sad to see how quickly people give up on one another, even though that was clearly a super team for the purchase and sales of Gibson and Mesa boogie alike.!. I just wish there was more loyalty and forgiveness sometimes ya know? But anyway nice amplifier, Sounds great!
Are any of you at Mesa/Gibson working class musicians? Do you guys really think this as a reasonable price for something you can get used for a way better price? What are these amps made of that they are priced like a newly developed model? All the R&D was done 30 years ago.
@@EM-km8em he has a TH-cam channel. And he's well-known for for being a big supporter of Gibson and Mesa boogie products, and was rather good at convincing the masses to buy their gear. He was an enormous supporter of theirs, and because he accidentally posted something online about someone being fired at Mesa, they cut all ties with him. (Even though he had worked with them for many years, and it seemed as though it was (as he says) and honest accident.) He took the post down almost immediately. Especially after they had contacted him and let them know that they weren't happy with the post and that they would like it to be taken down. Anyway most people know who he is. I'm actually really surprised you don't? But anyway yeah, he is a TH-camr, and mostly, it's just a matter of loyalty to me. People are too quick to cut each other off. If he would have left the post up and had been really disrespectful about it or something, I could understand, because that's unprofessional, but you typically don't get fired after one mistake. Especially when Mesa DID end up actually firing that person. As for the person who got fired, I don't remember his name. And honestly none of that is a concern of mine anyway. I would just hope things could be corrected. I just wish there was more loyalty nowadays.
I highly recommend buying an original Rev F (if you have the funds) or a Rev G instead of this corporate money grab amp. Just because its new does not mean its better then the original Rev G which this is closer to in tone. This has the serial effects loop and a clean channel like the Rev F but that is as close to the Rev F it gets. The high gain tones on this reissue are more like/towards the Rev G but more brighter in less organic way.
@@talpajam Regular Rev F's are selling for 4-5 K minimum. The chrome chassis version 6.5-8 K minimum. Top notch amps and extremely collectible. Would never sell mine no matter how much the market value! Unless 50-100K maybe. Lol.
@kookoogearkook Damn! I had a rev C serial #28 and rev F serial # in the high 600's that was a black/chrome in perfect condition. I sold them both in 2010. I really wish I held on to them.
Question??? Will the Hollywood store ever be open to the public again?? That was the greatest store around, it was like dying and waking up in Mesa Boogie Heaven! Plus all the guitars were absolutely sick! We miss you!🎸😎🎸
I'm a loyal Mesa boogie fan got a triple rec and a Badlander various pedals top. Fk you guys for that $3500 price tag. Why not $1800? Even Tremonti's MT100 was 1800 very respectable but that's not what you guys were going for was it?
The rich idiots in charge think everyone has $3,500.00 waiting for this "new" amp. You could get a used Roadster for $1,700.00 in Albuquerque a couple weeks ago and they are way better amps.
@sloanthebone How much do people need to make? I am not anti-capitalism, this is how the market takes care of it's own. But when they act like a Dual Rectifier is up there with boutique amps, they have lost the plot. The reason they aren't made in the US is because of how much US citezenz their work hour. No one makes a living anymore. Now, people HAVE to get rich so they either pretend it takes $3,000.00 worth of parts and $500.00 worth of labor or just cross their fingers that "Made in California" is worth $2,000.00.
I will never give up on Mesa but you completely missed the price point at 3499 you could have sold a TON for $1k less. These Gibson guys are not Mesa guys . Keep the brands separate this is becoming embarrassing ❤
I have to admit that it’s disappointing to see that this amp doesn’t include modern aspects like midi or cabclone IR etc… The used market still has long days
this doesn't sound right. should have used a v30 not the c90's; aren't that good. it's just more headroom i guess? i don't know... the fillmore still being made?
Mesa needs to stop demoing their own amps with Gibson folks. If I actually thought the Dual Rectumfier sounded like this, I wouldn't even ask to try it at the store.
Same with my little Mark V 25. The Petrucci and Timmons demos absolutely sold me on that amp. The Boogie official demo made it sound like a Bassman with a tube screamer with a dead 9V.
Mr. Petrucci and Timmons sold me a Marv V 25w too, cannot be happier!
Congratulations Mesa for releasing 2 (including the Mark 2C+) of the most classic dad-rock, soft-rock amps of all time!
Oh boy here we go 😂😂😂
Ahaha! here we go is right! The idiot does not even truly know that the different revisions have different parts/component values slightly to the circuit aside from how its laid out on the board. A billion techs can confirm each revision is slightly different with part values as well aside from layout. Unreal ....
@@kookoogearkook If you're going to interview Doug West who worked for Mesa for decades make sure you know your stuff. Mesas are not your typical amps. They tend to have a much more high-information per capita user base than Fender and Marshall.
@ Pshh , he don't know correct info about the revisions for one. Unreal ....
So Randall Smith did actually work on this reissue? I didn't know that. That is awesome!
THE PRICE IS INSANE!!!
@35:01 Love seeing that side of amp showcased, that's how I use my 93!
drop D happened when ty tabor happened - but did use stereo rev f ractifiers on dogman [superb tone thx doug/randy].
The intro to Dogman is Godly. Pure heavy tone. Just the right amount of gain to make it sound heavy but not too much to stop that punch.
For me the "secret" to Mesa amps is not over gaining them. Let the punch drive the sound and hit the strings like you stole the damn guitar. Size your amp correctly so you can run gain below 12 but the volume nowhere close to off or 9 oclock. I've known too many people that buy the Triple Recto's and they spend most of the time below 9 oclock on the master and wonder why the amp isn't punchy. Gotta let that amazing power section work a little. Don't just use half the amp (rely on the preamp and then don't turn the power section up.)
For decades I "liked" bigger amps because they were bigger. I remember trying a Sykes a like Mark III Colosseum and using the settings that John was said to use. The next town called and told me to turn it down. Then I wondered why Michael Schenker loved 50 watt Marshalls and Brian May played 30 watt Vox. So I tried smaller amps. Mind blown. My new all time favorite amp that's great for a band plays bars or clubs situations is the Mark V 25. High gain on channel 1, gain on 12 oclock, master at 2 to 3 oclock - that's eargasm lead tone territory. Those little EL84's give that cranked Marshall tone on that channel and for me it's like Schenker at Budokan tone.
90 watts for this Recto is gonna be way way more than I'd ever need.
@ [Mix magazine i think] tabor's actual dogman racktifier settings: orange -to -modern: Treble 1:00 Mids dimed Bass 10:00 Presence low or off Gain 11:00
Amazing tone....❤ the king of high gain amps has returned🎉
I like hearing the gamut of tones from this amp. There's only so much chugga-chugga I can stand to listen to. Of course the Recto can get super heavy tones!?!
Id love to hear James Hetfield demo the Triple Rec which is definitely the best amp ever made imo.
Guys please, with all the respect. These amps are made for heavy tones, the vast part of your demand will came from heavy metal kinda players. Why insisting on this kind of demo? Would be this difficult to just put a heavy tone player for demo it? Honest point. Focus more on internal marketing.
Crazy expensive! Gibson owned Mesa has been a disappointment
Too poor my man
May I ask what the recording setup was used in this video? What cabinet? Microphone?
Hi! All details in the description
Hey @mesaboogie you should check out the demo @snapascrew did. ABSOLUTELY CRUSHING TONE. 10/10.
@@mesaboogie ok thanks, it says you mic’d up a c90 speaker for this demo? Weren’t the rectifier cabinets always stocked with vintage 30s?
@@trym666thanks! 🤙🏻
Any plans for a Mark IV re issue??
This is the first video where I've liked Dinesh. I also might be buying one of these. Sounds great!
He cut off his mane.
Would be great if you demo'd this with EL34 tubes as well.
People trying to correct Doug West, of all people, on his amp knowledge. Lmao.
LMAO, do these people understand their market? So many other better demo's out there of this and the MKIIC+. Who is uncharge of these videos? This is a metal amp. Do Metal things with it and mic it properly.
I hear cheese goes good with whine
I like you Ray Ray.
Who mixed the intro song? Mixed so well
05:44 heard of loopers ? :)
I'm more of a fan of Mesa boogie than I probably am of Ryan "Fluff", but I really hope you guys can work it out. Gibson, seems a bit overpriced for what they are, but none the less, are great guitars, also I pretty much feel the same about Mesa boogie, but regardless, they really are great amps. It's just sad to see how quickly people give up on one another, even though that was clearly a super team for the purchase and sales of Gibson and Mesa boogie alike.!. I just wish there was more loyalty and forgiveness sometimes ya know? But anyway nice amplifier, Sounds great!
Whose Fluff
@@EM-km8emdog 💩
Send Denise home. Only make him demo Gibson guitars. It’s lame you fired Ryan Bruce.
Whose ryan
Are any of you at Mesa/Gibson working class musicians? Do you guys really think this as a reasonable price for something you can get used for a way better price? What are these amps made of that they are priced like a newly developed model? All the R&D was done 30 years ago.
This is the best amp ever
@EM-km8em
I like the Roadster. 4 channels and PERFECT high gain.
this is getting silly
Is Mesa/Gibson working on any new designs instead of re-issues or incremental revisions?
Gibson fired Randy, so no. No new designs.
Now can all rectifiers revisions specialist discus,what rev is the best :-}
Do you guys plan on working with Fluff again? Just saying, you're probably should!
Whose fluff
@EM-km8em Ryan "fluff" Bruce?
@EM-km8em it's the guys nickname, ?
@@joshf8097 who the f is that
@@EM-km8em he has a TH-cam channel. And he's well-known for for being a big supporter of Gibson and Mesa boogie products, and was rather good at convincing the masses to buy their gear. He was an enormous supporter of theirs, and because he accidentally posted something online about someone being fired at Mesa, they cut all ties with him. (Even though he had worked with them for many years, and it seemed as though it was (as he says) and honest accident.) He took the post down almost immediately. Especially after they had contacted him and let them know that they weren't happy with the post and that they would like it to be taken down. Anyway most people know who he is. I'm actually really surprised you don't? But anyway yeah, he is a TH-camr, and mostly, it's just a matter of loyalty to me. People are too quick to cut each other off. If he would have left the post up and had been really disrespectful about it or something, I could understand, because that's unprofessional, but you typically don't get fired after one mistake. Especially when Mesa DID end up actually firing that person. As for the person who got fired, I don't remember his name. And honestly none of that is a concern of mine anyway. I would just hope things could be corrected. I just wish there was more loyalty nowadays.
$3500?
@@todds5956 yea man... I can't believe it either...
Germany approximately 4200 Euros = 4375 Dollars
Then make an amp yourself to sound like this and sell it to us for $1500
@@EM-km8em no need, there's already a 5150 50w for less than that
@@lieutenantdan2217 I’ve had 2 they sound nowhere near this amp lol
since when dad rock called nu metal?
They are quite okay here, no problem at all, good sound
I highly recommend buying an original Rev F (if you have the funds) or a Rev G instead of this corporate money grab amp. Just because its new does not mean its better then the original Rev G which this is closer to in tone. This has the serial effects loop and a clean channel like the Rev F but that is as close to the Rev F it gets. The high gain tones on this reissue are more like/towards the Rev G but more brighter in less organic way.
in '18 i stole a '92 F in great shape for $1200 on reverb - guy hits me back 6 mos. later offering me $4K to buy it back =\
@@talpajam Regular Rev F's are selling for 4-5 K minimum. The chrome chassis version 6.5-8 K minimum. Top notch amps and extremely collectible. Would never sell mine no matter how much the market value! Unless 50-100K maybe. Lol.
@kookoogearkook Damn! I had a rev C serial #28 and rev F serial # in the high 600's that was a black/chrome in perfect condition. I sold them both in 2010. I really wish I held on to them.
@ Wow those are gold mines !
@kookoogearkook Are you selling your reissue then?
Question??? Will the Hollywood store ever be open to the public again?? That was the greatest store around, it was like dying and waking up in Mesa Boogie Heaven! Plus all the guitars were absolutely sick! We miss you!🎸😎🎸
Answer is no. Gibson shut it down
I'm a loyal Mesa boogie fan got a triple rec and a Badlander various pedals top. Fk you guys for that $3500 price tag. Why not $1800? Even Tremonti's MT100 was 1800 very respectable but that's not what you guys were going for was it?
The rich idiots in charge think everyone has $3,500.00 waiting for this "new" amp. You could get a used Roadster for $1,700.00 in Albuquerque a couple weeks ago and they are way better amps.
@@ThatIrishCowboy MT100 isn't made in USA.
I agree with you on the price of this DR but as far as the Tremonti goes, it is made in Indonesia to keep it at that price point.
@sloanthebone
How much do people need to make? I am not anti-capitalism, this is how the market takes care of it's own. But when they act like a Dual Rectifier is up there with boutique amps, they have lost the plot. The reason they aren't made in the US is because of how much US citezenz their work hour. No one makes a living anymore. Now, people HAVE to get rich so they either pretend it takes $3,000.00 worth of parts and $500.00 worth of labor or just cross their fingers that "Made in California" is worth $2,000.00.
Since when have Mesas been affordable ?
I will never give up on Mesa but you completely missed the price point at 3499 you could have sold a TON for $1k less. These Gibson guys are not Mesa guys . Keep the brands separate this is becoming embarrassing ❤
Make one yourself and sell it to us for $2499 then
Por favor hagan un vídeo doblado al español para lo de Latinoamérica
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I have to admit that it’s disappointing to see that this amp doesn’t include modern aspects like midi or cabclone IR etc… The used market still has long days
CabClone is NOT a loss...I have it on an amp, its horrible
It’s a reissue.
@ Yes, it’s a business strategy (not a good one do give my personnal opinion but let’s see where it goes) I’d much have preffered a roadking reissue
@ it’s a loss in a sense that it may be useful, fits inside the amp, removes nothing but makes a reissue a kind of sense.
this doesn't sound right.
should have used a v30 not the c90's; aren't that good. it's just more headroom i guess?
i don't know... the fillmore still being made?
This ain't it.
Dialing in your Mesa Dual Rec. Step one return to store . Step 2 buy a Marshall , SLO ,ENGL , or EVH.
Have owned all the brands Mesa blows them all out of the water
imagine if they got Kirk Hammett to do this video instead of this hacky player.
lol, he has been phoning it in for 20 years. It would be boring.
"this hacky player" is a far better musician than Kirk, but you're right: hero worship does sell products.
Even with Greeny in his hands, he doesn't sound like the best student of Satch...😅
@@stratking78
Imagine every time one of his buddies ribbs him about "listen to Kirks new solo, Maestro".lol