Have you lost faith in the two main parties? Feat. Owen Jones | Storm Huntley
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- Despite a landslide victory for Labour, they only had a third of the votes across the UK, with the Conservatives having around 24%.
And in Scotland, there was a collapse in the SNP vote - with a huge swing to Labour.
A similar story in Wales - the Conservatives lost ALL their MPs there.
But across the country there was a big show of support for Reform - the party came second in around 100 constituencies, with more than 4 million votes
And the Greens also saw an increase in their voter share and now have 4 MPs. And we have seen the highest number of Independent MPs since 1950.
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Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Labour, conservative, Labour, conservative
Wake up people
Don’t be scared of real change
Never did have faith for years now.
Landlords are 'entrepreneurs'... right...
Conservatives ( corporate socialism)
Labour ( corporate socialism)
Libdems ( corporate socialism lite).
Nailed it mate. 👌🏽👍🏽
Wait, wheres the socialism That would suggest both parties want to redistribute the wealth, unless you mean it IS redistributed to the corporations
@@shacklock01 yes corporate socialism benefits the corporations over the public ( socialism for the corporations and austerity for the public). Not to be confused with democratic socialism where the public funds benefit society over the corporations.
We don’t have any major political parties that are not socialist
Ie they all have governments
A collective pot ( public funds/ sovereignty) and they all use taxation.
The all support free market enterprise
They Just have different ideas where the public funds are spent and what regulations they have on free market enterprise.
@@timwoodger7896 Ah got you. I'd just call that neoliberalism personally. But I agree 100%
Generic definition - a political approach that favours free-market capitalism, deregulation, and reduction in government spending ( I'd also add to that weaponizing identity politics and other culture-war wedge issues. I suppose corporate socialism works cos both parties want to firesell every public asset off to corporations and then go join those corporations after their terms expire)
@@shacklock01 bang on !
It just gripes me when all the other socialists parties don’t admit they are socialist and then act like socialism doesn’t work 🤦.
It’s time we as a nation woke up to the games, the misdirection and the manipulation.
Is the first time ive watched Owen Jones and not wanted to throw anything at him! I come from a different political stance, but i concur with him on todays result. It is not a victory for labour, our voting system must change and i am so sick of labour or tory. No passion or hope for our labour government, id happily be proved wrong.
Disgraceful comment in the first sentence. If you respect democracy, you will not have any problem with opposing views. Jones is not afraid to speak truth to power and is one of the few analytical commentators with a coherent understanding of contemporary politics and history.
@@eightiesmusic1984 meanwhile, back in the real world where people disagree all the time, my point was that I usually disagree with Owen just not on this occasion.
@@Joanna7428 The point was understood. The way you made it is inappropriate and immature.
Mike Parry. Mandate the jab for everyone. Including our children. Never forget
YES,
Why does she think it would be a massive change to swing from labour to reform when labour changed out of all recognition when it became new laour funded by corporations and wealthy people rather than the trade unions and started referrimg to ordinary labour voters as bigots when they raised concerns àbout the impact of mass migration on wages and public services. Reform is the only party addressing these concerns. Labour are more preoccupied with trans issues and carbon emissions
As a traditional staunch Labour voter I have to agree with you. I didn’t agree with Corbyn on everything, but at least he was a genuine socialist. Starmers Labour now are too focused on identity politics and are in bed with big business and no friend to the unions or working class people. I voted for The Workers Party, because there was not way I could vote for Starmer, he’s a pathological liar and a Red Tory who’s job is to maintain the status quo.
@@nickxcore74 according to Peter hitchens on an interview on triggernometry, starmer is more left wing than corbyn, Maybe in the past he was but he definitely doesn't seem so now.
Who else fast-forwarded straight to Owen?
NO JUST THE TORIES AS FAR BACK AS THE 80s
Owen Jones needs to get his job at Mc Dondalds... What does he do for a living?
He’s a commentator and journalist. Plenty of them on the left and the right.
He sounds like qatar propagandist
@@TheHeninhardenneWhy, because he wants an end to the genocide in Gaza, which any decent civilised human being would want?…..My god. See folk like you moan about illegal immigrants and refugees, but fail to acknowledge our role in creating the problem like invading Afghanistan, Iraq and removing Gaddaffi. Granted we’re not responsible for Albanians, but we’ve seriously destroying and destabilised a lot of the Middle East. I would argue the Tories and Red Tories want illegal and mass immigration as it helps their wealthy friends who run businesses.
@@TheHeninhardenne you sound like hasbara propagandist.
Excuse me, Macdonald's has standards for their employees. OJ would not get through interview or would get sacked for mouthing off to his supervisor.
Congratulations Keir Stalin and Comrades ✊️🫡 May Population Centre 2476 be prosperous . Ps Free Palestine 🇵🇸
What a ridiculous question, labour have been in power a few hours. Give them chance to prove themselves
They will definitely do that one way to the bottom
Congratulations Keir Stalin and Comrades ✊️🫡 May Population Centre 2476 be prosperous . Ps Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@@hyperfocus4866 tories have destroyed the country but you worry about a party that hasnt been in power 14 years...
Not when you listen to the Mandelson rant on the BBC when the Islington result came through. He implied that the 24000 were voting for Labour and voted for Coorbyn by mistake. His horrid rant was not picked up by Laura Kuesenburg infact her contribution was what went wrong. Not even acknowledging that he had a strong local support. Mandelson his Starmer chief adviser so just think how bitter and twisted he will be when petulant voters question his letter leadership he can't defranchise them. When a person lies to get the leadership of the party do not expect him to change his spots now. We will see PFIs used to finance the NHS and the completely watered down green energy policy. The energy utilities are being bought back into public ownership at all. Starmer is a snake who actually has less than 34% of the electorate
Msm can't handle it
😂😂😂😂😂😂 fascinating i dont think so
1:03 Why have Reform UK seen such a rise? Two words: MASS IMMIGRATION.
No,its politics as a whole,if folk where sick of them we'd have a lib dem government or a reform government. But that hasn't happened.
Tory’s
Lost faith in them years ago 😒
OJ makes some good points, though the public will give them some time.
🏆 Reform UK 2029 👏🏽
Amen 🙏
Reform are aiming to renationalise the utilitirs. Owen needs to read up on what reform are saying instead of second guessing
Well fair play to them for that, because I never saw Reforms manifesto to be honest.
@@nickxcore74 it's online. Not as far right as the media leads us to believe. I would disagree on hunting and have reservations about the ehrc but for the most part they seem to be saying all the things I agree with
The laughable irony of Owen Jones complaining about people being driven out for disagreement. It's only a problem when it's your clique, right Owen?
I think he wasn't really complaining about being driven out, more highlighting the fact that as along as the two main parties drive people out with division and infighting, it will cause those voters to, in turn, seek out other parties which will serve them better.
Also as a side note, Owen had numerous articles trying to appease people whilst in Labour, to which the left themselves disliked him for his allegiance in various ways. Don't agree with him on everything but he is at least consistent, and if not, changing tack for a solid reason as opposed to a pay off or something
@@TheLukeLambertI agree with you mate.
Mike Parry speaks a lot of words about "traditional conservatism", but says nothing about what it looks like
Trad Tories need to stop being coy about what they stand for, and champion what they believe, otherwise they will just fade away