The halo leopard3 has an underrated amount of stability. You can throw it with some power without worrying about burning it over. It’s not overstable but it’s not a weak disc either.
4:39 Choosing Wraith instead of Destroyer is VERY good advice for a beginner or anyone switching to Innova. The Wraith doesn't need quite as much speed to get a full flight, and it goes basically as far as the Destroyer.
More accurately, a raptor or felon is like a sexton firebird. I like the 2021 and 2022 runs. Not rare or expensive and before they changed to more overstable halo plastic.
Man I love the Rollo. Its so much fun. I've been throwing the Barsby roadrunners for years and they are so perfectly stable. A beat in flat thunderbird is one that will never leave my bag. The new ones are more stable than my firebirds then beat in so nice.
I throw a lot of Innova molds. I putt with the Innova firefly. I have a flippy rancho roc and a beefy Rocx3 ( different than the roc3). I have older run star leopard for my hyzer flip turnovers. 2018 tour series barsby eagle for my stable hyzer flip, pushes almost dead straight, then always fades, it's extremely reliable and bombs for a seven speed disc. The Tee-bird is pretty legit but seem flippy af now that Innova changed up their plastics. Prolly a champ firebird for your flick. Throw a thunder bird for the beefy 9 speed slot. Pick up a champion sidewinder max weight you won't regret it. You can make that disc do anything. Roadrunner is a sweet hyzer flip turnover disc. Older star run wraiths are one of the best disc ever created, but if you're looking for more stability Pick up a brand new Star Destroyer. They come beat in brand new with the new Innova plastic. With your arm speed you'll shred with the destroyer backhand or forehand. These are my favorite molds from Innova.
I care to understable mambas for turnover shots. The only thing a destroyer did was destroy my score. Wraiths are the best distance drivers in my opinion
Shryke was my max distance disc for years until I lost it recently. If it's too flippy for you, you can get a higher weight or maybe halo plastic. Or you can get a Charger. My bro has one of those and it's pretty stable, but I think it can fly farther than a destroyer.
Top 5 Innova discs off the tee. Not including putters. (90% of my bag is Innova) 1. Firebird 2. Roc3 3. Wraith 4. Gator 5. Teebird *Yes the destroyer is a popular disc, & I do bag one sometimes, but I don't throw it as often as my top five.
I'm glad the Wraith is getting more attention these days. For most amateur players, it will be a more reliable disc on the course than its faster sibling.
Champ Teebird that is nicely seasoned is the best fairway of all time. I love my mako3s. So fun to throw. Destroyers if you can beat them in or just buy an emperor.
My starting 5 lineup for an innova bag: 1. KC Aviar, 2. Champ Roc3, 3. Champ Eagle, 4. Star Firebird, 5. Star Destroyer. (Bonus: star Ape and champ Toro)
Really enjoyed this one, I throw a lot of innova and none of these are the molds in my bag so it was very cool to see. Probably will end up trying some out, can’t wait to see this continued. Not sure if you’ve done Discraft yet but if not would love to see Nuke and Heat
Putters are the only discs I don't use Innova for, but the star Teebird is the pinnacle of flying disc technology. Roc3> Mako3 but only by a little. They have every flight path in every hand feel. Classics, staples, meme discs... they've got it all.
I just started playing last year and bought 40+ discs from someone at a super good price. I have discs that I still haven't thrown and you were throwing them here. I might need to get it out and throw them.
Molt I would love to see you try out the INNOVA TEEBIRD3. Especially G Star. When I first started watching disc golf I kept seeing Ricky Wysocki throw that disc constantly and they said it was also usable by all levels of disc golfers. It was the first single disc I intentionally bought from Infinite discs. I have now been playing for close to 5 years and that disc has NEVER left the bag. I throw mostly Latitude 64 now but nothing performs the same as a TEEBIRD3. I'm now playing in the Advanced level.
Top 5 use in my bag colossus(star) Roadrunner(champion) Archangel(Dx) Mako3(champion) Colt(XT)...3 months in and ive played -1 in 9 on a mid long technical course and only progressing
There are 2(technically 3) Innova molds that don’t leave my bag. The Savant in Halo plastic. It’s a nicely seasoned Thunderbird. The other is the Eagle. I’ve got the X and L mold in the bag. The X is the normal Eagle. The L is a straighter version of the Eagle. The L not made as an Innova mold anymore but it is available as the Infinite Discs Exodus. I really like the flat top Orc’s as well if you can find them.
Is the L really the same thing as the exodus??!!! I have bought a couple eagle Ls over the years and they are so sick even tho they aren’t cheap since they are from random people
@@daveslocum5625 Yes. The Eric Oakley Exodus' that I have are the exact same as the Eagle L's that I own. The only caveat which it seems is with the X mold as well is that the runs lately have had more dome than I prefer. I like the flatter one's but other than that identical.
Yo, it's Molt! I follow you on your Clash Royale videos. Just got into disc golf and came across you again. Love that Mako3. Everytime I throw it I have to say, "Mako moment!" to that disc.
Yoo i was going crazy, i knew i had recognised him and his voice but couldnt figure out what his name was. I used to watch him like 5 years ago and now ive picked up discgolf recently and stumbled across him again haha.
G Star Wraith, Star Mamba, for me those disc's I'm confident in shaping. Those 2 plastics either disc I like if I had to pick a plastic it would be G Star to me they come broke in of the shelf. My farthest throwing disc ever would be a really old F2 Champion Mamba super flippy thrown vertical like he threw that Rollo. I could get that disc to stand up stablize, burn stablize & burn stablize again. Sounds like a lie when it burned out it usually would turn into a descent roller shot. I love those Innova 11 speeds though.
i putt with r-pro pig , i use star caiman for overstable mid 250ft-300ft , champion jay for neutral mid 275ft-360ft , star jay for understable mid with some finish 275ft -340ft , star halo mako3 understable with some late turn to straight about 300ft - 350ft in tailwind glow teebird for 300ft- 330ft headwind with straight finish , champion thunderbird for 330ft - 350ft or so headwind with some finish , champion sidewinder for 330ft-360ft no to low tailwind , star invictus for 400ft-430ft tight line with no to very little headwind , 2024 tour series star halo destroyer for 450ft headwind hyzer flip no turn , halo boss for anything between 350ft-400ft headwind all hyzer shots , star x-caliber for heavy headwind when i want a hyzer flip to flat no turn 375ft - 415ft in heavy headwind and lastly the star corvette understable max distance anywhere between 450ft-600ft current max on golf line..
Not sure how flippy that roadrunner was. Josephs first throw w it early on made it look quite flippy and then I mightve missed if any other throws showed otherwise. To mix in some more stability n over stability I vote for glow thunderbirds new and beat and Joel Freeman gator3 and a nice flat pig in r pro
I have a halo tl3, but recently found a champion f2 tl3. The champion tl3 is money. All the halo molds fly super overstable for me. That’s fine and all, but when there’s no wind, give me champion plastic.
Shryke or tern, destroyer or Wraith, firebird or Thunderbird, roadrunner or leopard3, wombat3 or jaguar, invader. Hard to exclude the teebird but the longtime favorite is currently not in my bag. Gstar shryke is an out of the box bomber or you can beat in a Star one for longer life. I like the tern in champion plastic. Destroyer and wraith seem to have a lot of variation. Halo star is too overstable for me. I seem to like star for Destroyers and champion for wraiths. The "old" champion glow beats in very nicely after starting out pretty beefy. I haven't tried the new proto glow. I have never been unhappy with any firebird. Gstar roadrunner is a true off the shelf shot shaper, cheeky forehands. My Barbsy roadrunner is much more stable. Leopard3 is much straighter. Wombat3 > mako3 but to be fair I haven't messed with the mako much. 198 to 200 g dx jaguar is innovas best kept secret. 180ish jaguar is all turn, also super useful, similar to kastaplast seva. Invader is great for putting and approaching. Love this series!
To give you and idea of the selection Innova has just realize that there are at least 38 putter/approach discs in the 1-3 speeds. If you like the flight of a 2-3 speed but you want it shallower or deeper there probably is a disc to fit your preference. Innova also makes most infinite line discs as well.
Honestly as far as putters go, I dislike the aviar. Especially in dx plastic. The kc pro aviar is the closest thing to a pass I’d give it. There is something just weird about the hand feel for me.
I realise they will have a lot of competition with how many discs you are trying but I feel like you could get a long way with the Mako 3, Leopard 3 & Roadrunner with your style of play.
This is a way better pairing than big jerm and Joe. I honestly like this video more than I did Joe with any of the pros, and more than molt with any of the pros. But that 2nd chain out everyone knows it wasn't close if you don't show the camera where it landed. And then trying to convince someone it needed 5% more chains is a good way to blow smoke out your ass
Vinny absolutely does not throw Eagle-L - he may bag one for a flippy boy, but I’ve never seen it. He throws an older run of champ eagle-x that is firm, flat, and definitely overstable when new
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The ROC, destroyer, and firebird are a must!
Star Mamba's are one of my favorites
Exactly what I was gonna say
The teebird and the side winder. Love those discs can do so much with those molds
The halo leopard3 has an underrated amount of stability. You can throw it with some power without worrying about burning it over. It’s not overstable but it’s not a weak disc either.
Premium plastic leos/leo3s are good straight discs. Not much turn or fade.
The dark rebel (fd) is phenomenal. They are so straight.
4:39 Choosing Wraith instead of Destroyer is VERY good advice for a beginner or anyone switching to Innova. The Wraith doesn't need quite as much speed to get a full flight, and it goes basically as far as the Destroyer.
The Halo Star Mako3 is a game changer too. A touch more stable than the Star but more workable than a Champion Mako3.
Star Tern is a distance cheat code. If you liked the Hades, you'll like the Tern.
Champ Glow is my favorite long straight driver. GStar is a flip machine.
Sexton firebird is mandatory
yea haha i feall like ive heard so much about those. Its like a raptor or felon right?
More accurately, a raptor or felon is like a sexton firebird. I like the 2021 and 2022 runs. Not rare or expensive and before they changed to more overstable halo plastic.
I’m near Scrapyard. Got a firebird for you if you want to try one.
@@DiscGolfwithMoltprob like the moonshine felon you had a while back that was straighter.
Man I love the Rollo. Its so much fun. I've been throwing the Barsby roadrunners for years and they are so perfectly stable. A beat in flat thunderbird is one that will never leave my bag. The new ones are more stable than my firebirds then beat in so nice.
I throw a lot of Innova molds. I putt with the Innova firefly. I have a flippy rancho roc and a beefy Rocx3 ( different than the roc3). I have older run star leopard for my hyzer flip turnovers. 2018 tour series barsby eagle for my stable hyzer flip, pushes almost dead straight, then always fades, it's extremely reliable and bombs for a seven speed disc. The Tee-bird is pretty legit but seem flippy af now that Innova changed up their plastics. Prolly a champ firebird for your flick. Throw a thunder bird for the beefy 9 speed slot. Pick up a champion sidewinder max weight you won't regret it. You can make that disc do anything. Roadrunner is a sweet hyzer flip turnover disc. Older star run wraiths are one of the best disc ever created, but if you're looking for more stability Pick up a brand new Star Destroyer. They come beat in brand new with the new Innova plastic. With your arm speed you'll shred with the destroyer backhand or forehand. These are my favorite molds from Innova.
thought i was only one who bagged the champion sidewinder.. thing is money for ez 330ft-360ft hyzer flips
Tee Bird is a must.
I dont't have anymore Innova discs except tl3. I think thats my most used fairway driver. Not typical Innova at all. Quite flat🤩
I care to understable mambas for turnover shots. The only thing a destroyer did was destroy my score. Wraiths are the best distance drivers in my opinion
Shryke was my max distance disc for years until I lost it recently. If it's too flippy for you, you can get a higher weight or maybe halo plastic. Or you can get a Charger. My bro has one of those and it's pretty stable, but I think it can fly farther than a destroyer.
oh ive heard of that and totally forgot about it
Top 5 Innova discs off the tee.
Not including putters.
(90% of my bag is Innova)
1. Firebird
2. Roc3
3. Wraith
4. Gator
5. Teebird
*Yes the destroyer is a popular disc, & I do bag one sometimes, but I don't throw it as often as my top five.
I'm glad the Wraith is getting more attention these days. For most amateur players, it will be a more reliable disc on the course than its faster sibling.
Love this series man! Gotta try out a thunderbird!!!!
Champ Teebird that is nicely seasoned is the best fairway of all time. I love my mako3s. So fun to throw. Destroyers if you can beat them in or just buy an emperor.
Champ teebird is the best v disc of all time. Especially a moderately seasoned one!
Innovas whale, innova wombat3 and innova tern, all 3 are super underrated discs
Really love the Star Katana
My starting 5 lineup for an innova bag: 1. KC Aviar, 2. Champ Roc3, 3. Champ Eagle, 4. Star Firebird, 5. Star Destroyer. (Bonus: star Ape and champ Toro)
My fave 5: Polecat. Eagle-x. Wraith. KC Pro Roc. Sidewinder.
All good picks in my opinion, i throw all of those. I'd add a colt for a straight approach disc.
Really enjoyed this one, I throw a lot of innova and none of these are the molds in my bag so it was very cool to see. Probably will end up trying some out, can’t wait to see this continued. Not sure if you’ve done Discraft yet but if not would love to see Nuke and Heat
Knowing you like flippy you can't go wrong with a Valkyrie in most plastics and Halo for a dead straight flight.
I used to throw one of those like 20 years ago lol
Putters are the only discs I don't use Innova for, but the star Teebird is the pinnacle of flying disc technology.
Roc3> Mako3 but only by a little.
They have every flight path in every hand feel. Classics, staples, meme discs... they've got it all.
Toro and Firebird are great Overstable options for the Overstable approach disc and overstable fairway respectivelyz
Mako3 are sooo nice brand new but beat in to way too understable for me unless heavvvvvvy tailwind in that case love it
Got my First Ace with a halo road runner! Great amazing disc. The only disc I have duplicates of.
A fantastic disc that I personally love is a champion sidewinder and champion toro
I just started playing last year and bought 40+ discs from someone at a super good price. I have discs that I still haven't thrown and you were throwing them here. I might need to get it out and throw them.
Star Dark Rebel, GStar Thunderbird, GStar Tern, Star Gator and the Star Eagle are my top 5.
Good choices . They know Innova discs well . I would have added a TL3, Firebird and a Pig .
Molt I would love to see you try out the INNOVA TEEBIRD3.
Especially G Star.
When I first started watching disc golf I kept seeing Ricky Wysocki throw that disc constantly and they said it was also usable by all levels of disc golfers. It was the first single disc I intentionally bought from Infinite discs. I have now been playing for close to 5 years and that disc has NEVER left the bag. I throw mostly Latitude 64 now but nothing performs the same as a TEEBIRD3. I'm now playing in the Advanced level.
Top 5 use in my bag colossus(star) Roadrunner(champion) Archangel(Dx) Mako3(champion) Colt(XT)...3 months in and ive played -1 in 9 on a mid long technical course and only progressing
Love my Halo Roadrunner and a Firebird or Thunderbird would have been good.
There’s 2 discs that shouldn’t even be a question and it’s the destroyer and the thunderbird or firebird
There are 2(technically 3) Innova molds that don’t leave my bag. The Savant in Halo plastic. It’s a nicely seasoned Thunderbird. The other is the Eagle. I’ve got the X and L mold in the bag. The X is the normal Eagle. The L is a straighter version of the Eagle. The L not made as an Innova mold anymore but it is available as the Infinite Discs Exodus. I really like the flat top Orc’s as well if you can find them.
Is the L really the same thing as the exodus??!!! I have bought a couple eagle Ls over the years and they are so sick even tho they aren’t cheap since they are from random people
@@daveslocum5625 Yes. The Eric Oakley Exodus' that I have are the exact same as the Eagle L's that I own. The only caveat which it seems is with the X mold as well is that the runs lately have had more dome than I prefer. I like the flatter one's but other than that identical.
A Star Mirage on a hyzer flip is money. Great distance and excellent flight.
Dude yes I picked one up a week ago it’s so underrated, I like it for long hyzer putts too
Destroyer, although can often times throw the Wraith just as far.
Tern, Valkryie, Destroyer, get these in either halo or star plastic. top 3 innova for me
Champ Thunderbird for reliable fairway hits on FH & BH
I can only hope and assume DGA is next
Wombat3 is greatness!!!!
Only missing a Champ Thunderbird, but nice selection!
Eagle or Tee3 would have been better than the roadrunner imo, since you already have the Leopard3
Yo, it's Molt! I follow you on your Clash Royale videos. Just got into disc golf and came across you again. Love that Mako3. Everytime I throw it I have to say, "Mako moment!" to that disc.
Yoo i was going crazy, i knew i had recognised him and his voice but couldnt figure out what his name was. I used to watch him like 5 years ago and now ive picked up discgolf recently and stumbled across him again haha.
I bag a Wraith, Pig, and Thundy
G Star Wraith, Star Mamba, for me those disc's I'm confident in shaping. Those 2 plastics either disc I like if I had to pick a plastic it would be G Star to me they come broke in of the shelf. My farthest throwing disc ever would be a really old F2 Champion Mamba super flippy thrown vertical like he threw that Rollo. I could get that disc to stand up stablize, burn stablize & burn stablize again. Sounds like a lie when it burned out it usually would turn into a descent roller shot. I love those Innova 11 speeds though.
Would have went with a thunderbird instead of the roadrunner, and some kind of big bead aviar over the p&a. Other then that, it’s a solid line up
Before watching it, my picks would be: Big Bead Aviar, Jay, Teebird3, Sidewinder, Wraith
Let’s make the TeeRex a staple again😮
Just picked up a champ TeeRex on clearance for $11, and it's a nice compliment to the wraith and destroyer!
I just laked my wraith and found a mvp photon in proton metal flake plastic. Long story short, I miss my wraith 😢
Tl3 terns and rollos for life
I think a Hawkeye and a Shryke would be perfect for your game.
Orc is a must
Kc pro roc, halo champ destroyer!! Star teebird. And star mold in teal or seafoam is more understable outnthe box idk why
Wraith
Tern
Rat
Mako3
Aviar3
Roc, firebird, wraith, and destroyer is the must for innova
Star corverttt, star wraith, halo star mako3, star toro and star wombat3. Top 5
Throw a mamba slight hyzer for a long s.
Gstar Teebird 3, it's a very good straight to stable fairway, such a good all around disc.
A good road runner is hard to beat
Bro, the Orc… the roc, the XD, the Firebird.
Ive got an orc and a firebird from my old collection. Ill prob go throw an all innova round with a bunch of my old stuff here soon
@@DiscGolfwithMolt would love to throw an all innova round brother.
Ooh, do Mint and/or ThoughtSpace next.
Yeti, mako3, teebird, firebird, and wraith are the 5 essentials
11:49 where did it flip up?
you need to try a toro, a Jay and a Firebird
I second this message!
I think you would like an aviarx3, and star wraiths
i putt with r-pro pig , i use star caiman for overstable mid 250ft-300ft , champion jay for neutral mid 275ft-360ft , star jay for understable mid with some finish 275ft -340ft , star halo mako3 understable with some late turn to straight about 300ft - 350ft in tailwind glow teebird for 300ft- 330ft headwind with straight finish , champion thunderbird for 330ft - 350ft or so headwind with some finish , champion sidewinder for 330ft-360ft no to low tailwind , star invictus for 400ft-430ft tight line with no to very little headwind , 2024 tour series star halo destroyer for 450ft headwind hyzer flip no turn , halo boss for anything between 350ft-400ft headwind all hyzer shots , star x-caliber for heavy headwind when i want a hyzer flip to flat no turn 375ft - 415ft in heavy headwind and lastly the star corvette understable max distance anywhere between 450ft-600ft current max on golf line..
GLOW rocx3 i just added thinking its a further flying caiman
I recommend GATOR3.
Not sure how flippy that roadrunner was. Josephs first throw w it early on made it look quite flippy and then I mightve missed if any other throws showed otherwise.
To mix in some more stability n over stability I vote for glow thunderbirds new and beat and Joel Freeman gator3 and a nice flat pig in r pro
Top 5 Innova molds in DX part 1 out if 10 you mean? Not watched yet, interesting too see how they are choosen. ;)
(Any understable 7 speed)
Joseph: "This is like the best Maverick ever"
Starting to think Joe doesn't like Mavs.
I have a halo tl3, but recently found a champion f2 tl3. The champion tl3 is money. All the halo molds fly super overstable for me. That’s fine and all, but when there’s no wind, give me champion plastic.
My thing in disc golf is cycling dx rocs
I like the invader a lot more than the Aviar personally
Wraith, roadrunner, firebird, kc pro roc, kc aviar
Aviar, jay, leopard3, firebird, charger
Lone star next!
Wraith sidewinder Hawkeye Roc Toro Firefly
TL3 or Eagle ftw
I like the innova mirage better in the Rollo slot😅
Shryke or tern, destroyer or Wraith, firebird or Thunderbird, roadrunner or leopard3, wombat3 or jaguar, invader. Hard to exclude the teebird but the longtime favorite is currently not in my bag.
Gstar shryke is an out of the box bomber or you can beat in a Star one for longer life. I like the tern in champion plastic.
Destroyer and wraith seem to have a lot of variation. Halo star is too overstable for me. I seem to like star for Destroyers and champion for wraiths. The "old" champion glow beats in very nicely after starting out pretty beefy. I haven't tried the new proto glow.
I have never been unhappy with any firebird.
Gstar roadrunner is a true off the shelf shot shaper, cheeky forehands. My Barbsy roadrunner is much more stable. Leopard3 is much straighter.
Wombat3 > mako3 but to be fair I haven't messed with the mako much. 198 to 200 g dx jaguar is innovas best kept secret. 180ish jaguar is all turn, also super useful, similar to kastaplast seva.
Invader is great for putting and approaching.
Love this series!
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When Molt has a specific brand day you guys should make sure that brand is stocked in the store!
What else do you think I should have picked?
If you like the Keystone for putting you might try the Colt.
To give you and idea of the selection Innova has just realize that there are at least 38 putter/approach discs in the 1-3 speeds. If you like the flight of a 2-3 speed but you want it shallower or deeper there probably is a disc to fit your preference. Innova also makes most infinite line discs as well.
What course is that?
You should do an in the bag for the tournament
I'll probably do one after the tourney, not a lot of my discs have changed from what I used to throw
Innova Star colt. Throwing putter that just goes far.
Innova DX Valkyrie 💪🏼🥏
Valkyrie in Halo is nasty - 9 speed midrange
Honestly as far as putters go, I dislike the aviar. Especially in dx plastic. The kc pro aviar is the closest thing to a pass I’d give it. There is something just weird about the hand feel for me.
I realise they will have a lot of competition with how many discs you are trying but I feel like you could get a long way with the Mako 3, Leopard 3 & Roadrunner with your style of play.
I only throw Innova. I’m trying to have at least one of everything in at least 1 type of plastic. But I bag a lot of stupid stuff
I would never throw innova (only brand that's a never for me) but I'll watch for you Molt 👍
Why? It's the 1st manufacturer to make disc golf discs & their bags disc catchers are good as well. 🤷♂️
Picked up a Valkyrie awesome disc super stable
This is a way better pairing than big jerm and Joe. I honestly like this video more than I did Joe with any of the pros, and more than molt with any of the pros. But that 2nd chain out everyone knows it wasn't close if you don't show the camera where it landed. And then trying to convince someone it needed 5% more chains is a good way to blow smoke out your ass
Swap out a Valkyrie for that Leopard3. You're welcome
Calvin does not throw that eagle. He throws the old Eagle-L. What you picked is an Eagle-X. It’s a lot more overstable.
oh dang!
Vinny absolutely does not throw Eagle-L - he may bag one for a flippy boy, but I’ve never seen it. He throws an older run of champ eagle-x that is firm, flat, and definitely overstable when new
Makos rule I have one
Roc or Roc3