i don't see anything wrong there! he even repainted it and there are no visible swastikas or nazi insignia at all. that tank is part of history and i hope it will stay in europe and be fully restored
It's nout about Nazis. The dude had a bunch of live ammunition and an 88mm AA gun as well. I think it's dumb that it has to go to these lengths when it's obvious the guy wasn't any kind of psycho but oh well.
As I understand he bought it and restored it from the British who built it from left over parts for testing after WW2 - so the German goverment really don't have any claim on it. It's weapons were disabled. Everyone knew he had it - locals remember him using it in a snowstorm in the 1970's. It just made great news dragging it out (managing to damage it in the process).
You're full of misinformation! Those were operable weapons! In the wrong hands, like say, someone with your obviously Right Wing mentality, they're a threat!
Nonsense. There's a historical (interwar years) reason those laws exist. It has to do with the Nazis and how the Freikorps helped them. The court was extremely lenient to that man. And his lawyer knew it!
Disgusting to trial an 84 man, sentice him 14 months in prison and pay 250.00! Are you nuts! Total idiots! If you would use your common sense, you would take the tank and other weapons from him and give them to museums. This man took care of it, looked after it. They should pay him!
1. he didn't get 14 months its suspended he gets zero time . 2. He had 70 assault rifles and 2000 rounds of ammo 3. you don't know the full circumstances
Rubber edged wheels. It was fine. It will be a beautiful display. A panther recently restored for the Smithfield Armour and Artllery museum outside Cairns in Queensland cost them $12 million. This find is a gem!
Most tanks, such as the Panther, are designed to be moved short distances on the wheels without tracks. You will notice the wheels have hard rubber solid tires for this purpose
Utterly ridiculous convicting this poor man. There are thousands of retired military vehicles and WW2 weapons in the UK owned by many collectors. Get a grip Germany.
They are scared it might be used against the criminal and braindead government, most probably it's even of better quality than the modern scrap anyway. That's why they adapt laws to go after things that used to be legal.
I wish for him he get it back it is his tank they outright just stole it from him its a prestine condition and original phanter tank and probably worth up to 25000000€
victimless crime... he didn't hurt nor plan to hurt anyone. He collected a very cool historical object. But I guess "you'll own nothing and be happy" in this day and age...
This makes me sad...poor man. An innocent man, taking excellent care of rich history being sentenced and fined at 84...shame, shame, shame. Whoever turned him in, there's a special place for you...
He wasn't turned in, I don't think. The police raided his house since it was rumored to have stolen Nazi artwork. They didn't find any art, but they did find the tank.
@johndc2998 You take a tank's tracks off to tow it. If you don't, you can damage the transmission by forceing the drive wheels to spin, those are the gear looking ones. The road wheels are unpowered, so they are free to just roll along.
That's common in germany. They even convicted a 98 year old man a few years ago who did paperwork for the Nazis and cried like a baby when he was confronted with the accusations, telling everyone that he is sorry and he can't undo it anymore. He died in prison a short time after.
@@f804.de.ruyter No. It was sold to a ww2-museum in the US i think. The government didn't take it away but forced him to sell the tank to a museum that's interested. He was able to keep the money ... but let's be honest, this old guy doesn't give a damn about money anymore, he just wanted his collection he was very passionate about and made his old and lonely day's a little bit brighter. Not to mention that, if he has no heirs, the money goes directly into the purse of the country.
Not one of the German court’s finest days……the poor guy has spent time, money and his effort and patience to keep an old World War Two tank in amazing condition.. it’s an engineering masterpiece! I hope public opinion in Germany says the same as it appears people are saying here. The poor guy should be commended not prosecuted!
1:08 I can't help but cringe at this. Idk if it's harming the wheel, but it just doesn't look OK for them to be dragging the tank without tracks over concrete. The thing works, just puts the tracks on and drive it out! Stop!
I cringed at that too!! They could have put a couple of layers of wood planks down for it to turn on or SOMETHING other than dragging the rubber on the road wheels sideways in the turn on concrete 😟
@@hunterbear2421 the steel tracks were disassembled from the tank to preserve a renewable road, at the same time to damage a legally preserved unrenewable rare legally owned private property. That's just, saddening.
I am so glad I was born in the US. I mean look, I love Germany and it’s many cultures (bavarian culture is my favorite) but the idea that a central government can just be like “hey, I see that you own this piece of property, and that’s TOTALLY FINE… if weren’t for the fact that it meets this criteria, therefore you’re not allowed to own it anymore and we’re going take it from you and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it… plus we’re going to prosecute you in criminal court, cause… we can, LOL”…….. is quite off putting, to say the very least.
From what the defence attorney was saying, the weapons were recognized as being museum pieces, not weapons of war, so I don't see why the headline states that the defendant was convicted. Convicted of holding museum pieces?
I understand tank , everyone wants to have one , but for what purpose as much as 70 assault rifles ? Would't be enough 5 or 6 items ? And besides , how can he pay 250,000 euros ?
Folks I think it might be the 70 assault rifles and 2000 rounds of ammo and the live explosives that got him into rather more trouble than the tank here...
i don't see anything wrong there! he even repainted it and there are no visible swastikas or nazi insignia at all. that tank is part of history and i hope it will stay in europe and be fully restored
Its not about the Nazis I believe that you have to have some sort of permits to be about to house a tank. Or its just that its illegal weapons.
It's nout about Nazis. The dude had a bunch of live ammunition and an 88mm AA gun as well.
I think it's dumb that it has to go to these lengths when it's obvious the guy wasn't any kind of psycho but oh well.
@@luisurdiales3091 I do agree. I don't think it was ok to have live ammunition. But on the other hand I do hope that the tank is not scraped.
As I understand he bought it and restored it from the British who built it from left over parts for testing after WW2 - so the German goverment really don't have any claim on it. It's weapons were disabled. Everyone knew he had it - locals remember him using it in a snowstorm in the 1970's. It just made great news dragging it out (managing to damage it in the process).
really ? 84 old years man ? im quit sure, he was in Wermaht
They just stole his private property. These museum pieces were no threat to the community.
Also, a torpedo, a mortar, 70 assault rifles and 2,000 rounds of ammunition. Nah matey, that's a threat.
You're full of misinformation! Those were operable weapons! In the wrong hands, like say, someone with your obviously Right Wing mentality, they're a threat!
Nonsense. There's a historical (interwar years) reason those laws exist. It has to do with the Nazis and how the Freikorps helped them. The court was extremely lenient to that man. And his lawyer knew it!
You nailed it.. they stole his property and sent him to jail to justify the theft
Disgusting to trial an 84 man, sentice him 14 months in prison and pay 250.00! Are you nuts! Total idiots! If you would use your common sense, you would take the tank and other weapons from him and give them to museums. This man took care of it, looked after it. They should pay him!
1. he didn't get 14 months its suspended he gets zero time . 2. He had 70 assault rifles and 2000 rounds of ammo 3. you don't know the full circumstances
@@steve.k4735who cares? Why can’t he own a firearm? It’s a human right to self defense.
@@RicardoSanchez-es5wl he can I do in the UK you just need a certificate he didnt .
@@steve.k4735lmao
@@steve.k4735dude has been preparing for WW3 since the end of WW2
They should be charged with a crime for removing the tracks and dragging it on the rims
They cared more about the pavement than the tank.
Rubber edged wheels. It was fine. It will be a beautiful display. A panther recently restored for the Smithfield Armour and Artllery museum outside Cairns in Queensland cost them $12 million. This find is a gem!
Most tanks, such as the Panther, are designed to be moved short distances on the wheels without tracks. You will notice the wheels have hard rubber solid tires for this purpose
He paid for the tank.
He had a certificate from the government to prove the gun can't fire live rounds.
What's the problem?
eu backwards leaders, thats the problem
i dont know man 😕
Germany
He hadn't enough certificates, german moment
Museums giving the government more money than this man
Poor old man. He’s just a collector. Would they think he would go to war?
Because it is Germany
Exactly he was just collecting
And what would he do whit a tank whit no tracks
@@WorldwarIIProductionsand a tank that can't shoot.
Fr
It disgusts me the disrespect that they took it from him, despite him owning it legally for all these years.
Utterly ridiculous convicting this poor man. There are thousands of retired military vehicles and WW2 weapons in the UK owned by many collectors. Get a grip Germany.
They are scared it might be used against the criminal and braindead government, most probably it's even of better quality than the modern scrap anyway. That's why they adapt laws to go after things that used to be legal.
L Germany, the man hasn’t done anything. He deserves his tank.
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This man is a hero and saved one of the greatest ww2 tanks in history.
Hope it will go to a museum, the man should be awarded to keep it in a mint condition.
nope, they fined him 250000€. bastards
@@wardwyseur And also told to donate it to a musuem
@@marcusmunk3355 sell or donate
I wish for him he get it back it is his tank they outright just stole it from him its a prestine condition and original phanter tank and probably worth up to 25000000€
@@michaeldebondt1236when transporting tank for damaged enough that it cant run anymore gears are broken its scrap now
Give this old man his tank back 😢😡
We can't do anything, thats the government said.
@@Drigvinomat the end we won't own anything and we will be forced to be happy.
They stole his tank. Now they jail him. Who is the real criminals here. Not the old man that is for sure.
The Gestapo 😂😂
victimless crime... he didn't hurt nor plan to hurt anyone. He collected a very cool historical object. But I guess "you'll own nothing and be happy" in this day and age...
Didn't they recently give like 11 people involved in a gang rape a light sentence
They were a protected species so they got away lightly
Damit macht sich Deutschland mal wieder sowas von lächerlich.🤦🏻
This makes me sad...poor man. An innocent man, taking excellent care of rich history being sentenced and fined at 84...shame, shame, shame. Whoever turned him in, there's a special place for you...
He wasn't turned in, I don't think. The police raided his house since it was rumored to have stolen Nazi artwork. They didn't find any art, but they did find the tank.
Give his tank back😡😡😡😡😡😡
@@williamhalsted4”he wasn’t turned in”
Proceeds to explain him being turned in
@@WorldwarIIProductionsTo whom? I am afraid the original German army that owned it is defunct by now.
Shame the way that tank was dragged away as if the owner stopped paying instalments.
On the wheels to nonetheless get it a pair of tracks first or reman the wheels 😢
He probably stopped bribing some officials.
@johndc2998 You take a tank's tracks off to tow it. If you don't, you can damage the transmission by forceing the drive wheels to spin, those are the gear looking ones. The road wheels are unpowered, so they are free to just roll along.
Where was he supposed to keep it? It wouldn't fit in the loft.
Convicted an 84 year old man? How embarrassing
That's common in germany.
They even convicted a 98 year old man a few years ago who did paperwork for the Nazis and cried like a baby when he was confronted with the accusations, telling everyone that he is sorry and he can't undo it anymore.
He died in prison a short time after.
@@justicartiberius8782 he was innocent
@@justicartiberius8782yeah the guy who does paperwork is the problem what a clown show 😂
The guy could have opened his own museum!
He did
Did he get his tank back?
@@f804.de.ruyter No. It was sold to a ww2-museum in the US i think. The government didn't take it away but forced him to sell the tank to a museum that's interested.
He was able to keep the money ... but let's be honest, this old guy doesn't give a damn about money anymore, he just wanted his collection he was very passionate about and made his old and lonely day's a little bit brighter.
Not to mention that, if he has no heirs, the money goes directly into the purse of the country.
LET HIM KEEP HIS TANK
So man owned a private museum collection and the government punished him for that?
I guess the government is a bigot
Typical mis-carriage of justice.
As a German, I can comfirm we hide our tanks in our basements.
😂😂😂😂
The coolest granddad in town 😊😂
De-milled gun, no tracks, that's some fearsome "weapon of war"... 🤪
Well done for the Nanny State, keeping us safe from geriatric antique collectors.
Not one of the German court’s finest days……the poor guy has spent time, money and his effort and patience to keep an old World War Two tank in amazing condition.. it’s an engineering masterpiece!
I hope public opinion in Germany says the same as it appears people are saying here.
The poor guy should be commended not prosecuted!
How far has Germany fallen!!!!!
All the way down since WW2
they took his life and also money
It was just in his basement
Why sentence him??
🙄
Money and control and manipulation by those purportedly there to represent you modern Pharisees
Whats wrong with having a tank in his basement
@@cr1pt1c_comet46 bad b8
Nothing here in the U.S. but possessing a tank is illegal in Germany 🇩🇪
@@cr1pt1c_comet46 “What’s wrong with owning a war crime” What does that means?
@@cr1pt1c_comet46 what war crime?
@@cr1pt1c_comet46 what even is a war crime
It's rare for a German to possess this much armament and not roll into France or Poland.
Best comment on here 😂😂
He was fined $493,000.The tank is worth more than that. Sell it and give him his change.
It kills me watching them drag it out on the rims
1:08 I can't help but cringe at this. Idk if it's harming the wheel, but it just doesn't look OK for them to be dragging the tank without tracks over concrete. The thing works, just puts the tracks on and drive it out! Stop!
I cringed at that too!! They could have put a couple of layers of wood planks down for it to turn on or SOMETHING other than dragging the rubber on the road wheels sideways in the turn on concrete 😟
@@scottsmith1386 Unfortunately they don't care, just trying to make their liberal enlightened point that tanks and weapons are all bad.
@@scottsmith1386 they had tracks they just didn't put it on
@@hunterbear2421 the steel tracks were disassembled from the tank to preserve a renewable road, at the same time to damage a legally preserved unrenewable rare legally owned private property. That's just, saddening.
@@Eagerston thankfully it's not too damaging, i just hope they didn't scrap it.
Meanwhile in the US
A random person: *buy f16*
US gov: Congrats! you got an extra balistic missile as a bonus
Ballistic missile? I don’t get it
You'll never know when you're going to need one.
Not like he could exactly drive it to the local coffee shop.
He had a 8.8cm Flak too 😄, and a U-Boot Torpedo.
I see no issue with this man having his tank.
More persecution of the innocent
Man probably enjoyed his beers in that thing every day, poor guy, wish they let him keep it
Convicted of WHAT ? what BS
I am so glad I was born in the US. I mean look, I love Germany and it’s many cultures (bavarian culture is my favorite) but the idea that a central government can just be like “hey, I see that you own this piece of property, and that’s TOTALLY FINE… if weren’t for the fact that it meets this criteria, therefore you’re not allowed to own it anymore and we’re going take it from you and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it… plus we’re going to prosecute you in criminal court, cause… we can, LOL”…….. is quite off putting, to say the very least.
Same in the uk as well
Wow I think he should have been given an award.
Now i understand why my ancesters left a long time ago.
Old man: * commits no crime
The law: * "That's illegal! "
What's wrong with keeping a tank underneath your garage? Didn't even have treads on it where's hegonna go with it
I’m sure he had it to keep his Mother In Law away, leave the man alone😂
Who got rich from possession of the tank. Those are worth millions of dollars
Follow the money
The Panther was stored in the BASEMENT and had NO tracks. WTF, Deutschland
They should pay him..
That's was well preserve artifact..
What a shame
I don't see a problem, it was his tank
thats not justice... a gun that cannot fire it is not a gun... greetings from Buenos Aires, Argentina
Germany disarming the poor citizen and no one is like wait this seems familiar.
Now the way for a tyrannical government is paved.
Wow, that guy is cool
Preservator of history! Thank you Sir.
He was not convicted for tank but for assult rifles that could fire live rounds. He had many hence the big fine.
Grandpa also own an original 88mm cannon
A Panther tank’s main gun was actually a high velocity 75mm cannon.
@@map3384 There's a 8.8 cm flak gun too alongside a torpedo and a replica V1 rocket
let him keep it is his panzer.
Ridiculous, the tank is worth a fortune and he saved it.😡😡😡
So where is this tank now? Not only was it taken from owner, i believe its been sold.
He was just waiting for the inevitable call.
Pure evil these judges
who ratted my boy out
Nah let that poor man the tank in the basement. he treated the tank Better than in a Museum
This is out of hand. Let him keep the war trophy. Who did he hurt?
Der Panzer wurde an seinen Besitzer zurückgegeben
So he got everything back correct?
No he had to donate or sell his entire collection if I remember right
open borders for terrorists: Okay kein Problem
old veteran with his toys: Sie müssen sterben
What did they think: "Hey, he's going to hold up a 7-11 using this thing?"
Germany doesn’t have 7-11s
If he lived in Lebanon or gaza he could have had rockets, missiles and whatever else he wanted in his basement.
But he doesn't - he lives in Germany!
In America everyone can own a armed tank but some old man owning a tank in his basement in germany is suddenly bad.
In America, a convicted Felon is allowed to stand for election to President! That's why your opinion doesn't count in the civilised World.
How did the man keep the tank hidden all these years without the authorities finding out ?
I must admit I have grudging admiration for him and his need to preserve a bit of history
So who is going to arrest him ?
I won’t the guy has a fking tank
Poor old collector; would anybody think he would go to war?
From what the defence attorney was saying, the weapons were recognized as being museum pieces, not weapons of war, so I don't see why the headline states that the defendant was convicted. Convicted of holding museum pieces?
They're afraid he might use the tank to take over the GOV......
In the UK I could not only own that tank but also drive it on the road legally
I understand tank , everyone wants to have one , but for what purpose as much as 70 assault rifles ? Would't be enough 5 or 6 items ? And besides , how can he pay 250,000 euros ?
He was only a kid when WWII happened so there's no way he was a veteran
That makes no sense.
Even if he was a veteran.
There's no law in Germany against being a veteran.
If he paid for it he should be able to keep it
Folks I think it might be the 70 assault rifles and 2000 rounds of ammo and the live explosives that got him into rather more trouble than the tank here...
They use a tank to remove the tank
The man was trying to defend his land , sick of watching government give it to migrants, this Brit stands with this guy👍🇬🇧
The guy should be paid for the damage they did with the tank.
Cmon dude, give him back his tank
Fr, Let him Keep His Tank
he is 84 why take away his tank? if he dies, sure, but let him keep it as logn as he lives, why would you take away his lifework?
Unless I'm missing something, what's the difference between him owning it or a museum.
Transmission is probably working fine too.
Brooo give him his tank back!
Who’s snitched on this poor guy? 😭
Some jealous Kent..
Thanks, but no tanks.
Ridiculous. They should have paid him for preserving for mankind the most complete functional Pz.V in history.
Give his tank back >:(
How did they found out?
Jealous neighbor
@@heynnerherrera2216 typical germans!
@@heynnerherrera2216it has to always be that one neighbor
What a time capsule.
Give the tank back! 😡
What people don’t understand is the main gun on the panther still worked prior to them removing it along with the fully functional 88mm flak gun
"This belongs in a museum"