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No doubt this is a responsible and intelligent individual that understands what safe airspace looks like and will not compromise safety to please pilots. Thanks PI/Greg for doing this interview and sharing it!
BVLOS should be based on altitude. Planes and helicopters should not be allowed to fly below 500 feet except around airports for takeoff/landing. If they want to go below 500 feet, make THEM get the waver. Like for crop dusters. This means planes and drones will never interact.
Airplanes and helicopters have right of way in the national airspace, which is why UAS need to avoid interfering with manned aircraft. Helicopters often fly below 500 feet due to the nature of their work. Airplanes usually don't, unless we talk about crop dusters. Being both a manned and unmanned pilot, it is a LOT easier for a unmanned pilot to see a manned aircraft at low altitude than the other way around. A simpler solution in my eye is to mandate that ALL manned aircraft flying low altitude are required to be ADSB equipped, and all unmanned aircraft be required to have ADSB receivers to alert drone pilots. This would solve 99% of the issues.
Why aren't all GA required to have ADSB out? Drone pilots can see them in the airspace and avoid the area or land. Why is 100% of the requirements on the drone. Given all this what are the real % chance of collision? 12 collisions over millions of drone flights with 0 injuries. You are much more likely to die in a plane v plane crash or plane, terrain crash. Drones can't fly under terrain in a canyon BVLOS but GA can fly without ADSB.
@@PilotInstitute, good idea, and included in this should be the development of a, call it Class U airspace (SFC-400') under Class G. Maybe this would be a constant reminder to the manned side that drones are down here, and although you have the right of way still pay special attention.
Has anybody mentioned this is Greg's best makeup job ever? If I didn't know any better I'd say that was a fake AI version of him based on how serious his performance went. very cool to see this from the mouth of the FAA! We are all very fortunate to be a part of this pilot institute network! Priceless information!
Excellent discussion by Greg and John. Really appreciate it! People who have experience interpreting and writing the Rules, Rules enforcement, and the evolving regulations in the different categories of drone operations, drones, as conditions change, and as you have said, with drones, there is rapid development of technology and also the types of operations in which drones are needed. Rules based on common sense, and evolving with the times. Great work!
Really important point: to be aware of the Notice of Proposed Regulations. Make your voice heard. Especially if you think there are any errors in the Proposed Regulations. And yes, read the Preamble. The Preamble is part of the Regulation. Great point.
Thank you and the FAA for presenting this information. This was so informative and nice to have such a knowledgeable representative of the FAA explain how we can better interact with them to make drone operations safe.
Still listening through this, lots of good information so far. Couldn't help but shake my head (and fist) when he said they were surprised that lacerations were the biggest cause of injuries with drones and not concussion. Like, anyone who has spent a few weeks around drones could guess that the razor sharp blades that ring its perimeter are more likely to hurt someone than blunt-force trauma from a direct hit.
It's very interesting about the "line of sight" issue because when I fly, I can't visually follow my drone in the air over a few hundred feet! Some new law needs to be on the books about adjusting to that problem and relying more on electronic surveillance from our controllers. And installing new equipment on planes, helicopters, and other aircraft to detect the signal from the drone is one of the best answers for the collision issue. Thanks for the discussion.
Great interview - always good to get to the whys for the regulations. Wishing BVLOS regs would focus on line of site to the airspace that the drone is flying in and not the drone itself. Shared airspace - see a manned aircraft in the airspace - lower or land the drone (see and avoid). Keep it simple.
Excellent discussion and insight into current events affecting sUAS operations, Greg. Content like this makes me proud to be affiliated with Pilot Institute as a student, and one who recommends your offerings. Great work by all involved.
The FAA has it's hands full trying to keep aircraft from hitting eachother, or running into one another at major airports. It's time to focus on those issues and leave us amateur drone pilots alone.
It’s not that people don’t want to comply. I have been trying to find my remote I’d serial for about 5 hours now. Everywhere I look they tell me where to find the number I put that number and it says “ not sure if you have remote id number contact your manufacturer “ I am sure I have it and of course I can’t get DJI to call me.
@pilotinstitute Greg (and John), It was great meeting you both at the Expo. This was a great discussion, and much appreciated! I’ve always said that I feel bad for the FAA in trying to figure out how to deal with drones when they started showing up in retail stores. A lot of your discussion touches on the reason I’ve said this. This new technology is everywhere and ever-changing, and it has the ability to affect safety of the NAS and people on the ground. So how do you deal with it? Much like both of you, aviation has been in my life since I was 17 years old, when I started school at Colorado Aero Tech to get my A&P license. During school I felt I needed to learn to fly an airplane if I was going to fix one. I got my Private Pilot license in 1984 and my A&P in 1985. I later got my BS in Aeronautics from ERAU. I was a helicopter mechanic at ERA Helicopters in Louisiana for 2 years, then a mechanic and engineer at United Airlines in California for 19 years, and a systems engineer and technology architect at Boeing in Washington for 17 years. I’ve been involved with STC’s on 737, 747, and 767 airplanes and a I’m co-inventor on 6 patents based around aircraft maintenance and maintenance program development on the 787. I obtained my Remote Pilot certificate in 2018 and I now teach people about Part 107 and how to fly drones safely. I say all of this to make the point that we still need to figure out how to get EVERYONE who flies a drone to respect Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs). The 3+ decades I spent operating within the “National Airspace System” that John spoke of, inherently makes me respect, question, and abide by the FAA’s Rules & Regulations, but someone who starts as a photographer, real estate agent, etc. (with all due respect), and learns how to pass the Part 107 knowledge test, often doesn’t *understand* the rules, or worse, ignores or just gets agitated by Part 107. Social media posts are rife with comments that demonstrate this point. Your discussion about BVLOS really hit on this point when John talked about the National Airspace “System”. John pointed out that a lot of people don’t understand the System. He mentioned a VOR. How many drone pilots (certified and non-certified) know what a (VHF) omni-directional range (VOR) navaid is or does? I’ve encountered pilots that don’t know what FAA stands for, and I thought your breakdown of Title 14 is a good illustration of what Remote Pilots should understand, and I’m guessing most don’t; that Title 14 is Aeronautics & Space, Chapter 1 is FAA and DOT, and that Part 107 is under Subchapter F, but that there’s a whole lot more to the system that they’re operating in, that needs to be understood. I’ve never seen any posts in Private Pilot forums or Mechanic forums that say things like “the rules are for people who are afraid” or “you do you and I’ll do me” when talking about Regs, but you see that often in drone forums or drone related social media posts. There’s a lack of inherent respect for the FAA and the Rules and Regs by a substantial number of people flying drones. I still see this as a big issue, and I’m not sure that we (collectively) have figured out how to address it. Hopefully this video helps, but I believe we need to keep thinking about this. All the best, Ken Bouvier
Mostly I blame it on how the FAA has pretty much cracked down on FPV and Hobby RC flying intentionally or unintentionally when trying to make the more important in their minds Part 107 rules. They became the fun police for a lot people who never wanted to deal with regulations or laws but just fun and used have fun before the FAA came in and ruined it. I’m about to get a CFI rating and I get the FAA perspective but they really did misstep on a rapidly growing hobby that made people who just wanted to fly in simple understandable rules and the FAA not understanding the hobby. They have their job and they are doing it. I flew RC before these dark times for hobby and I get why younger more Macho/Anti-authority hobbyists get pissed off. They lost the freedom because some idiots with drones ruined the fun. I don’t know the answer but the FAA has major up hill battle with people who wanted to do fun stuff and those understand if they want to make money they have to be seriously safe.
What drives me up a wall is the rule regarding the potential of collision with manned aircraft. While flying a mapping mission on a piece of property on the beach in Florida, I had to dive quickly (taking it off the programming) to avoid a powered parachute. It couldn't be heard until it was practically on top of me, yet had there been a collision, it would have been my fault. Yet this one and nearly a dozen other different aircraft whose pilots are not required to be certificated. Add to that, the local Sheriff's chopper never had his ADS-B on yet was just barely 50'-75' high off the beach (almost daily, presumably checking out the swimmers and sunbathers.) Why is that?!
Jill, please report them to the FSDO with the tail number, date/time, location, estimated altitude, and any other facts and witness statements. Operating without ADS-B out requires ATC approval and can be a safety hazard, as u apparently witnessed yourself. The FSDO will investigate if they get a legit complaint.
Excellent interview. Very informative and helps me understand the FAA thinking and rules. The landscape remains changing, and we will disagree in some areas but that is the beauty of an open society and democracy. Much appreciated.
I hope the FAA starts small with Vlos and expands. Flying around my garage while sitting on the porch is BVlos. What precautions should I take to mitigate risk? My start point is once you are BVlos the pilot is at fault until proven otherwise. It's a stern position and people chaff at it, but, that's reality.
I have a drone but haven’t flown yet. I’ve seen very confrontational people and local authorities on youtube, because they don’t know the “rules” regarding drones, as well as some drone flyers. It would be nice for a drone flyer to have the rules (in layman terms) to learn and show others if needed.
Good interview. Some insight into FAA's challenges: Quickly developing technology. Perceptions that did not match reality. Failure to think about how US regs fit into a global product market. Failure to anticipate "customer demand" precipitated by their regs. Steep learning curve in a quickly changing milieu. Not an easy task.
As an aspiring commercial pilot and fpv pilot of two years, this has good info. However there's an excessive amount of belittling fpv pilots' knowledge. It seems apparent the folk involved in these "rules" are not a part of the hobby.
As far as the BVLOS goes, I can look through each of the "360 degree" sensors on my DJI Mini 4 pro using the vision assist. But, spotting an approaching aerial vehicle through them might be a little difficult.
@@wolfpack4694 In my personal opinion, no. If the view through those sensors were magnified some, maybe. Could you imagine the added distraction of switching through the different views while piloting though. I would be so stressed out. LOL.
The FAA needs to step-up it's game responding to email questions. When you call the help number, you're directed to send an email with you question. I've sent two, weeks a part, same question and I've received no responses, yet I get messages that my email was received. I need to reregister my drone, but the FAA registration site fails to acknowledge that I already have a registered drone to reregister! The way I see it, if I'm smart enough to pass the Part 107, reregeistering a drone should be a "cake walk."
We have had great success contact the FAA at uashelp@faa.gov, is that the email you are using? Regarding your question, you should be able to update the current registration and extend it directly on the FAA DroneZone. Can you see the old registration?
Hi great video very informative, I was looking at some info about remote id I understand that it transmits signal to other parties I would assume other aircraft in the vicinity, i clearly believe that the same remote id should also send back info to the drone to alert of nearby aircraft, all aircraft that flies should have some form of ADSB. The only real way to see all sides is 3 additional cameras using the same radio to switch between cameras using the app that we mostly use on our phone. technology has advanced cheap cameras are used on cheap toy drones. that way if I have an alert i can switch to the camera to whatever side on the map it showing to avoid a collision. it should not be that hard to implement with so much advanced technology.
@@wolfpack4694 Yes thank you but at least it would be nice if they could make the RID to transmit back to the drone's radio to alert of a close buy aircraft. maybe that could be implemented in the future.
23:32 so require all helicopters to use ADSB. It's nice when my DJI drones tell me and aircraft is near by. I'm usually never above the treeline because I fly fpv, but it's still nice
What free flight radar works? I have what I assume are security drones in an industrial area near me but I also have planes & helicopters off radar that I would like to check on. If they're going to be flying low circles all day then I would like to know how high they are. Or if they're flying by close & loud enough to rotor our organs as they race by then I'd like to see how high they are so I can educate myself on the 'what if I was flying right then'.
Nice video, well done. Personally I think the FAA needs to get us involved. Safety and common sense is number one. FAA fails in common sense. First FTC or FAA needs to place warning on advertising and boxes that the drone must be registered with the FAA. Second is state that a test will or a license may be required. The public and some drone owners have no idea of this making it very dangerous to the aviation community. My other point will be a question. If a 747 without a parachute crashes on you kill you? If one of our DJI drone crashes on you kill you? Both fly so why is the FAA making it so hard to fly over people and moving vehicles when general and commercial aircraft do it 24\7.
@@PilotInstitute I'm not aware of any. They take off, land and fly wherever without any waivers. If they have bird strike or malfunction, they are coming down one way or another. But, not want to argue. You have a great channel 👍
Ask him if he flew with Robert Kiyasaki. He's the author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. Has one hell of a program here on TH-cam. Robert flew a chopper in Vietnam. I forgot what unit he served in. (Sorry).
Faa requires a pilot to maintain a visual line of sight! If correct, how does the pilot use the display and maintain line of sight? It basically means no looking down at a handheld or using goggles, or flying a drone around a tree. All of which puts the pilot at risk of breaking rules. It seems, a specified distance from the operator should be allowed using an average sight ability as the distance set.
I don't think I could ever feel comfortable flying BVLOS anyway. I would always, as much as possible, want my takeoff/landing site to be very near where I need to fly my drone for the mission at hand.
BVLOS below 100 feet with FPV goggles in class G airspace. Almost 0% chance of a colision in that circumstance and reasonably high situational awareness. Other option is to add headtracking (though this will be more expensive).
Imma continue posting drone videos on TikTok that get hundreds of views without part 107 certification. Because the FAA interpretation of commercial use is so broad, it can mean anything. I don't think they'd win in court over social media posts no matter where the footage came from.
Accounts with over 1,000 followers can get monetized. Also, if the drone footage enhances your viewer count by reaching more folks due to interest in the imagery from the drone, then you are benefiting from the flights and are now commercial. I’d ask someone you respect for advice here. They’re more likely to help than to pay your fine.
Posting stuff to TH-cam or TikTok isn’t a concern to the FAA. The applicable rules for those flights derive from the purpose of the flight, irrespective of compensation. The FAA are not the social media police.
And exception for making money in ANY situation would be inadvisable, it’s not a rule about HOW you make money but THAT you are making it. I assume if you make enough in a year you let them report it to IRS and don’t get out of that just because you think it’s ‘stupid’.
got a 107...tried to register air 3 drone for remote ID....FAA site wont accept serial number...last time FAA guy had to do it manually over the phone...what gives?....please make changes seamless and user friendly...tired of tech quirky crap!
Why do 107 pilots who build their own drones have to follow manufacturing rules with SRID? I can understand if they were manufacturing many drones for sale. Why did this rule have to include TH-camrs who build drones and fly them? It seems like the FAA tried to Target TH-camrs and "how to" videos.
I guess I should have been more specific... why can't individuals with a 107 license use an RID module, rather than SRID, to operate their own UAV, or use it in a how-to video on TH-cam? From what I've heard it's more difficult for an individual to set up SRID.
@@nateteator3901I've been calling out this awful mistake in the regs since they came out. It's so easy to fix, but I guess they are in the service/pocket of the big companies.
Flight over crowds was never the primary goal... flight over traffic and sometimes sparse people was... and as a result the rules were wholly out of balance to that end. Man... halfway through and this is just painful to listen to... the disconnect to the part 107 user and circular logic (self congratulatory) is just astounding. Nor-wonder we're so far behind in advanced UAS operations.
It's funny how the "UAS Specialists" that the FAA consults with are purely big business corporations that want specific commercial interests served. Hobbyist RC aircraft is now dead. Also funny - the FCC **does** look out for the amateur radio enthusiasts (unlike the FAA). The FCC actually allocates frequency bands for amateur use and protects those bands **from** corporate commercial use. Imagine if the FAA actually stood up for and looked out for amateur public interests, rather than the biggest pocket book corporate stakeholders. It's infuriating how casually and cavalier this government representative is towards the rights and freedoms "of the people." He has it all justified in his mind and is surrounded by the pro government echo chamber. "I'm from the government and I am here to help."
BVLOS, see and avoid. Not too relevant to the pilots on an IFR plan. They use INSTRUMENTS. The monitor on my DJI Air 3 is my instrument. I think the FAA old guys just can't relate. Does this FAA guy have ANY real experience flying a modern drone?
I'm still mad as hell that we traditional fixed-wing RC people who have flown issue-free for decades get lumped in and punished with all the DJI drone-under-the-xmas-tree moronic drone pilots! We don't need the FAA involved!
Ok if it's a safety issue then why cnt rec Flyer s sell their work..and depending on wat flying work your doing u use the same technique s so it seem to me.. to me.! t it juz over kill or a money grab and isnt safety is involved in all flying .?
Dude 90% of this is Bullshit..! I still dnt understand why u need a license to sell your own work.! Your personal property...this is such bullshit .! Smh smh
It's not a license to sell, it's a license to fly. To drive a motor vehicle you need a regular driver's license or a commercial driver's license (CDL), depending on the purpose of your driving.
Lol its not rhe same .! And first if you want sell your footage to anyone they said u need to have a license..for wat thats such nonsense.! But in the world we live in Now.! I guess it would make sense..but it is bullshit.! And they cnt controll that transaction anyway ..so wat the purpose of having a ploits license if u fly recreational it still flying and u dnt need 1 ..!! @jerseyshoredroneservices225
@VicMossPhotography dosent all flying have safety issues, and if it's not about selling then way is it in the rules.? It a person's own property they can do with it wat they will.or should be able too. So to make money using your drone.! Again is your own personal property should be permitted with out a license and u should know wat your doing before u take on a job.! Sounds like Over reach to me and a Money Grab .! Your not flying A Man plane.!
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No doubt this is a responsible and intelligent individual that understands what safe airspace looks like and will not compromise safety to please pilots. Thanks PI/Greg for doing this interview and sharing it!
Thank you Greg and John for this very helpful and enlightening video. Two great gents in this industry!
BVLOS should be based on altitude. Planes and helicopters should not be allowed to fly below 500 feet except around airports for takeoff/landing. If they want to go below 500 feet, make THEM get the waver. Like for crop dusters. This means planes and drones will never interact.
100%!!! This doesn't seem like rocket science but some how they're not seeing this.
While I agree with your sentiment, helicopters often need to land in unusual spots and thus need to be able to break the 500 ft floor.
Airplanes and helicopters have right of way in the national airspace, which is why UAS need to avoid interfering with manned aircraft. Helicopters often fly below 500 feet due to the nature of their work. Airplanes usually don't, unless we talk about crop dusters. Being both a manned and unmanned pilot, it is a LOT easier for a unmanned pilot to see a manned aircraft at low altitude than the other way around.
A simpler solution in my eye is to mandate that ALL manned aircraft flying low altitude are required to be ADSB equipped, and all unmanned aircraft be required to have ADSB receivers to alert drone pilots. This would solve 99% of the issues.
Why aren't all GA required to have ADSB out? Drone pilots can see them in the airspace and avoid the area or land. Why is 100% of the requirements on the drone. Given all this what are the real % chance of collision? 12 collisions over millions of drone flights with 0 injuries. You are much more likely to die in a plane v plane crash or plane, terrain crash. Drones can't fly under terrain in a canyon BVLOS but GA can fly without ADSB.
@@PilotInstitute, good idea, and included in this should be the development of a, call it Class U airspace (SFC-400') under Class G. Maybe this would be a constant reminder to the manned side that drones are down here, and although you have the right of way still pay special attention.
Very informative. Thanks John and Greg. It would be great to continue periodic interviews with FAA officials.
Enjoyed this conversation a lot! Thank you Greg and Mr FAA. Hope you two do another video conversation like this again in the future!
Has anybody mentioned this is Greg's best makeup job ever? If I didn't know any better I'd say that was a fake AI version of him based on how serious his performance went. very cool to see this from the mouth of the FAA! We are all very fortunate to be a part of this pilot institute network! Priceless information!
Excellent discussion by Greg and John. Really appreciate it! People who have experience interpreting and writing the Rules, Rules enforcement, and the evolving regulations in the different categories of drone operations, drones, as conditions change, and as you have said, with drones, there is rapid development of technology and also the types of operations in which drones are needed. Rules based on common sense, and evolving with the times. Great work!
Really important point: to be aware of the Notice of Proposed Regulations. Make your voice heard. Especially if you think there are any errors in the Proposed Regulations. And yes, read the Preamble. The Preamble is part of the Regulation. Great point.
Thank you and the FAA for presenting this information. This was so informative and nice to have such a knowledgeable representative of the FAA explain how we can better interact with them to make drone operations safe.
Still listening through this, lots of good information so far. Couldn't help but shake my head (and fist) when he said they were surprised that lacerations were the biggest cause of injuries with drones and not concussion. Like, anyone who has spent a few weeks around drones could guess that the razor sharp blades that ring its perimeter are more likely to hurt someone than blunt-force trauma from a direct hit.
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It's very interesting about the "line of sight" issue because when I fly, I can't visually follow my drone in the air over a few hundred feet! Some new law needs to be on the books about adjusting to that problem and relying more on electronic surveillance from our controllers. And installing new equipment on planes, helicopters, and other aircraft to detect the signal from the drone is one of the best answers for the collision issue. Thanks for the discussion.
Great interview - always good to get to the whys for the regulations. Wishing BVLOS regs would focus on line of site to the airspace that the drone is flying in and not the drone itself. Shared airspace - see a manned aircraft in the airspace - lower or land the drone (see and avoid). Keep it simple.
Excellent discussion and insight into current events affecting sUAS operations, Greg. Content like this makes me proud to be affiliated with Pilot Institute as a student, and one who recommends your offerings. Great work by all involved.
This was a GREAT video! I would LOVE if this was a monthly or quarterly thing. Updates from the SOURCE.
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Curious to know at what altitudes those 12 collisions occurred at.
Ask your local FAA DronePro. They have access to info that may help you.
The FAA has it's hands full trying to keep aircraft from hitting eachother, or running into one another at major airports. It's time to focus on those issues and leave us amateur drone pilots alone.
This is a fantastic interview
It’s not that people don’t want to comply. I have been trying to find my remote I’d serial for about 5 hours now. Everywhere I look they tell me where to find the number I put that number and it says “ not sure if you have remote id number contact your manufacturer “ I am sure I have it and of course I can’t get DJI to call me.
Pray for Elon to get in and make DOGE. The FAA will change how they do stuff over night.
Thanks! Great "headsup" vid. I'm taking the P107. I haven't tested yet, but the content is very comprehensive so I'm optimistic.
@pilotinstitute Greg (and John),
It was great meeting you both at the Expo. This was a great discussion, and much appreciated!
I’ve always said that I feel bad for the FAA in trying to figure out how to deal with drones when they started showing up in retail stores. A lot of your discussion touches on the reason I’ve said this. This new technology is everywhere and ever-changing, and it has the ability to affect safety of the NAS and people on the ground. So how do you deal with it?
Much like both of you, aviation has been in my life since I was 17 years old, when I started school at Colorado Aero Tech to get my A&P license. During school I felt I needed to learn to fly an airplane if I was going to fix one. I got my Private Pilot license in 1984 and my A&P in 1985. I later got my BS in Aeronautics from ERAU. I was a helicopter mechanic at ERA Helicopters in Louisiana for 2 years, then a mechanic and engineer at United Airlines in California for 19 years, and a systems engineer and technology architect at Boeing in Washington for 17 years. I’ve been involved with STC’s on 737, 747, and 767 airplanes and a I’m co-inventor on 6 patents based around aircraft maintenance and maintenance program development on the 787. I obtained my Remote Pilot certificate in 2018 and I now teach people about Part 107 and how to fly drones safely.
I say all of this to make the point that we still need to figure out how to get EVERYONE who flies a drone to respect Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs). The 3+ decades I spent operating within the “National Airspace System” that John spoke of, inherently makes me respect, question, and abide by the FAA’s Rules & Regulations, but someone who starts as a photographer, real estate agent, etc. (with all due respect), and learns how to pass the Part 107 knowledge test, often doesn’t *understand* the rules, or worse, ignores or just gets agitated by Part 107. Social media posts are rife with comments that demonstrate this point.
Your discussion about BVLOS really hit on this point when John talked about the National Airspace “System”. John pointed out that a lot of people don’t understand the System. He mentioned a VOR. How many drone pilots (certified and non-certified) know what a (VHF) omni-directional range (VOR) navaid is or does? I’ve encountered pilots that don’t know what FAA stands for, and I thought your breakdown of Title 14 is a good illustration of what Remote Pilots should understand, and I’m guessing most don’t; that Title 14 is Aeronautics & Space, Chapter 1 is FAA and DOT, and that Part 107 is under Subchapter F, but that there’s a whole lot more to the system that they’re operating in, that needs to be understood.
I’ve never seen any posts in Private Pilot forums or Mechanic forums that say things like “the rules are for people who are afraid” or “you do you and I’ll do me” when talking about Regs, but you see that often in drone forums or drone related social media posts. There’s a lack of inherent respect for the FAA and the Rules and Regs by a substantial number of people flying drones. I still see this as a big issue, and I’m not sure that we (collectively) have figured out how to address it. Hopefully this video helps, but I believe we need to keep thinking about this.
All the best,
Ken Bouvier
Mostly I blame it on how the FAA has pretty much cracked down on FPV and Hobby RC flying intentionally or unintentionally when trying to make the more important in their minds Part 107 rules. They became the fun police for a lot people who never wanted to deal with regulations or laws but just fun and used have fun before the FAA came in and ruined it.
I’m about to get a CFI rating and I get the FAA perspective but they really did misstep on a rapidly growing hobby that made people who just wanted to fly in simple understandable rules and the FAA not understanding the hobby. They have their job and they are doing it.
I flew RC before these dark times for hobby and I get why younger more Macho/Anti-authority hobbyists get pissed off. They lost the freedom because some idiots with drones ruined the fun. I don’t know the answer but the FAA has major up hill battle with people who wanted to do fun stuff and those understand if they want to make money they have to be seriously safe.
What drives me up a wall is the rule regarding the potential of collision with manned aircraft. While flying a mapping mission on a piece of property on the beach in Florida, I had to dive quickly (taking it off the programming) to avoid a powered parachute. It couldn't be heard until it was practically on top of me, yet had there been a collision, it would have been my fault. Yet this one and nearly a dozen other different aircraft whose pilots are not required to be certificated. Add to that, the local Sheriff's chopper never had his ADS-B on yet was just barely 50'-75' high off the beach (almost daily, presumably checking out the swimmers and sunbathers.) Why is that?!
Jill, please report them to the FSDO with the tail number, date/time, location, estimated altitude, and any other facts and witness statements. Operating without ADS-B out requires ATC approval and can be a safety hazard, as u apparently witnessed yourself. The FSDO will investigate if they get a legit complaint.
This was great. Thanks Greg and P.I. Team.
Excellent interview. Very informative and helps me understand the FAA thinking and rules. The landscape remains changing, and we will disagree in some areas but that is the beauty of an open society and democracy.
Much appreciated.
Agreed! Our democratic republic is a beautiful thing❤
They need to speed up. China basically done circles on us.
I really enjoyed that interview! Thanks Greg!
Enjoyed this discussion! Very informative!
Best FAA Interview ever! Thank you both.
Great convo! Very informative and this guy does a good job of making the FAA not seem so “governmenty”.
I hope the FAA starts small with Vlos and expands. Flying around my garage while sitting on the porch is BVlos. What precautions should I take to mitigate risk? My start point is once you are BVlos the pilot is at fault until proven otherwise. It's a stern position and people chaff at it, but, that's reality.
Very helpful and informative conversation!
I have a drone but haven’t flown yet. I’ve seen very confrontational people and local authorities on youtube, because they don’t know the “rules” regarding drones, as well as some drone flyers. It would be nice for a drone flyer to have the rules (in layman terms) to learn and show others if needed.
Good interview. Some insight into FAA's challenges: Quickly developing technology. Perceptions that did not match reality. Failure to think about how US regs fit into a global product market. Failure to anticipate "customer demand" precipitated by their regs. Steep learning curve in a quickly changing milieu. Not an easy task.
Great interview !
Very informative.Thanks, My TV TH-cam had no sound for just this video, but fortunately my Android phone did.
BVLOS. We need it.
You can have it already. 😂😉
Thank you, excellent information.
As an aspiring commercial pilot and fpv pilot of two years, this has good info. However there's an excessive amount of belittling fpv pilots' knowledge. It seems apparent the folk involved in these "rules" are not a part of the hobby.
Great info! Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for producing this video.
As far as the BVLOS goes, I can look through each of the "360 degree" sensors on my DJI Mini 4 pro using the vision assist. But, spotting an approaching aerial vehicle through them might be a little difficult.
And can it spot it 1/2 mile away? That’s the distance a 100knot helicopter covers in 12.5 secs. That’s the kicker.
@@wolfpack4694 In my personal opinion, no. If the view through those sensors were magnified some, maybe. Could you imagine the added distraction of switching through the different views while piloting though. I would be so stressed out. LOL.
Try three times including shutting the TH-cam channel down. No volume during the interview. I can hear all your other videos perfectly fine
I've been going crazy thinking it was just me
Turn off Surround sound in the player setting.
Non-Surround Audio: th-cam.com/video/5FhcG_ShtmQ/w-d-xo.html
The FAA needs to step-up it's game responding to email questions. When you call the help number, you're directed to send an email with you question. I've sent two, weeks a part, same question and I've received no responses, yet I get messages that my email was received. I need to reregister my drone, but the FAA registration site fails to acknowledge that I already have a registered drone to reregister! The way I see it, if I'm smart enough to pass the Part 107, reregeistering a drone should be a "cake walk."
We have had great success contact the FAA at uashelp@faa.gov, is that the email you are using?
Regarding your question, you should be able to update the current registration and extend it directly on the FAA DroneZone. Can you see the old registration?
Hi great video very informative, I was looking at some info about remote id I understand that it transmits signal to other parties I would assume other aircraft in the vicinity, i clearly believe that the same remote id should also send back info to the drone to alert of nearby aircraft, all aircraft that flies should have some form of ADSB. The only real way to see all sides is 3 additional cameras using the same radio to switch between cameras using the app that we mostly use on our phone. technology has advanced cheap cameras are used on cheap toy drones. that way if I have an alert i can switch to the camera to whatever side on the map it showing to avoid a collision. it should not be that hard to implement with so much advanced technology.
RID signals are not like ADS-B out fyi.
@@wolfpack4694 Yes thank you but at least it would be nice if they could make the RID to transmit back to the drone's radio to alert of a close buy aircraft. maybe that could be implemented in the future.
@@monchito7777I think the issue for them will be the cost of equipage especially when drones have to give way to them. We’ll see what develops
Where can I find the FAA preamble referenced in this video?
go to regulations.gov and, for part 107 search for RIN 2120-AJ60 or Federal Register Volume 81, No. 124
23:32 so require all helicopters to use ADSB. It's nice when my DJI drones tell me and aircraft is near by. I'm usually never above the treeline because I fly fpv, but it's still nice
ADS-B has some physics and digit limits, and some LE missions need ADS-B Out off, fyi
Greg Very informative vid ty I was wondering if BVLOS could be solved with FPV?
Probably not because FPV has very restricted views of the airspace and low flying aircraft approach from any direction
Lookin’ good boys!
AI can be used to assist safety. not a main system but a suggestion interface each pilot can be alerted
What free flight radar works? I have what I assume are security drones in an industrial area near me but I also have planes & helicopters off radar that I would like to check on. If they're going to be flying low circles all day then I would like to know how high they are. Or if they're flying by close & loud enough to rotor our organs as they race by then I'd like to see how high they are so I can educate myself on the 'what if I was flying right then'.
Nice video, well done. Personally I think the FAA needs to get us involved. Safety and common sense is number one. FAA fails in common sense. First FTC or FAA needs to place warning on advertising and boxes that the drone must be registered with the FAA. Second is state that a test will or a license may be required. The public and some drone owners have no idea of this making it very dangerous to the aviation community. My other point will be a question. If a 747 without a parachute crashes on you kill you? If one of our DJI drone crashes on you kill you? Both fly so why is the FAA making it so hard to fly over people and moving vehicles when general and commercial aircraft do it 24\7.
Airplanes have strict rules about flying over people. Very strict.
@@PilotInstitute I'm not aware of any. They take off, land and fly wherever without any waivers. If they have bird strike or malfunction, they are coming down one way or another. But, not want to argue. You have a great channel 👍
Ask him if he flew with Robert Kiyasaki. He's the author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. Has one hell of a program here on TH-cam. Robert flew a chopper in Vietnam. I forgot what unit he served in. (Sorry).
Faa requires a pilot to maintain a visual line of sight! If correct, how does the pilot use the display and maintain line of sight? It basically means no looking down at a handheld or using goggles, or flying a drone around a tree. All of which puts the pilot at risk of breaking rules. It seems, a specified distance from the operator should be allowed using an average sight ability as the distance set.
The regulation allows to look at the controller. You don’t have to stare at the drone the whole time.
With goggles, you need a visual observer.
You might want to read AC 107-2A, which discusses that
I couldn't hear anything
I get sound on my iPhone TH-cam app, but not my Apple TV TH-cam app.
What device are you using? Phone/computer? Browser/app?
No sound on tv app. But have sound on my iPhone.
@@PilotInstitute In my case I could not hear on smart tv, youtube app, however could on Windows 10 TH-cam threw browser.
It is a surround issue, use this link: th-cam.com/video/5FhcG_ShtmQ/w-d-xo.html
I don't think I could ever feel comfortable flying BVLOS anyway. I would always, as much as possible, want my takeoff/landing site to be very near where I need to fly my drone for the mission at hand.
Most people don’t realize what 107.31 limits really are, which means the distance is much less than anticipated
BVLOS below 100 feet with FPV goggles in class G airspace. Almost 0% chance of a colision in that circumstance and reasonably high situational awareness. Other option is to add headtracking (though this will be more expensive).
@wolfpack4694 not a guess. Class G airspace is unregulated.
@@UnmannedSkyuncontrolled but still regulated.
Collisions can and have happened in uncontrolled airspace also.
Is anyone else not able to hear it?
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Tried every device. The intro music works then no dialog.
It works now! Very weird
Try turning off surround sound option in the video player settings.
If you cannot hear: th-cam.com/video/5FhcG_ShtmQ/w-d-xo.html
What is this 400 grams topic that y'all discuss around the 22:31 mark?
More information in this video: th-cam.com/video/cYQfKHCRbbI/w-d-xo.html
@@PilotInstitute Awesome! Thanks!
No sound after opening music 😢
Turn off Surround sound in the player options.
The video has no audio. CC works tho.
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If you have no audio: th-cam.com/video/5FhcG_ShtmQ/w-d-xo.html
I wish you could show a family tree with race as you discover it.
Imma continue posting drone videos on TikTok that get hundreds of views without part 107 certification. Because the FAA interpretation of commercial use is so broad, it can mean anything. I don't think they'd win in court over social media posts no matter where the footage came from.
Accounts with over 1,000 followers can get monetized. Also, if the drone footage enhances your viewer count by reaching more folks due to interest in the imagery from the drone, then you are benefiting from the flights and are now commercial. I’d ask someone you respect for advice here. They’re more likely to help than to pay your fine.
Posting stuff to TH-cam or TikTok isn’t a concern to the FAA. The applicable rules for those flights derive from the purpose of the flight, irrespective of compensation. The FAA are not the social media police.
They need to carve out an exception for social media posting, allowing monetized posting. It's really stupid the way it is now.
And exception for making money in ANY situation would be inadvisable, it’s not a rule about HOW you make money but THAT you are making it. I assume if you make enough in a year you let them report it to IRS and don’t get out of that just because you think it’s ‘stupid’.
video starts at 12:20
got a 107...tried to register air 3 drone for remote ID....FAA site wont accept serial number...last time FAA guy had to do it manually over the phone...what gives?....please make changes seamless and user friendly...tired of tech quirky crap!
Never, ever, talk to the FAA. Ever.
Oops, I did it again.
Why do 107 pilots who build their own drones have to follow manufacturing rules with SRID? I can understand if they were manufacturing many drones for sale. Why did this rule have to include TH-camrs who build drones and fly them? It seems like the FAA tried to Target TH-camrs and "how to" videos.
You should read the preamble to part 89 for that answer.
I guess I should have been more specific... why can't individuals with a 107 license use an RID module, rather than SRID, to operate their own UAV, or use it in a how-to video on TH-cam? From what I've heard it's more difficult for an individual to set up SRID.
@@nateteator3901I've been calling out this awful mistake in the regs since they came out. It's so easy to fix, but I guess they are in the service/pocket of the big companies.
No audio passed the intro
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@@PilotInstituteI went back to watch it tonight and it's working perfectly fine now. Thank you!
This really makes me despise and loathe dumb and reckless people. Just like everything else in life the bad apples have to spoil it for the bunch.
Audio on my phone but not on tv.
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I get the audio on my android phone but not streaming on TV on TH-cam via xfinity streaming. Thanks.
Yep, looks like it’s an issue with surround sound audio on a few of our exports. If you turn that option off, it works. We are investigating.
Drones could just turn off when approached by aircraft. It becomes our responsibility as drone pilots to not be in their airspace.
No sound pass the intro watching on an Android phone.
No sound
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@@PilotInstitute was a phone. Worked fine on computer
It works now on phone
Flight over crowds was never the primary goal... flight over traffic and sometimes sparse people was... and as a result the rules were wholly out of balance to that end.
Man... halfway through and this is just painful to listen to... the disconnect to the part 107 user and circular logic (self congratulatory) is just astounding. Nor-wonder we're so far behind in advanced UAS operations.
No audio
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@@PilotInstitute phone
Using the app or on browser. Can you turn off the surround sound option?
It's funny how the "UAS Specialists" that the FAA consults with are purely big business corporations that want specific commercial interests served.
Hobbyist RC aircraft is now dead.
Also funny - the FCC **does** look out for the amateur radio enthusiasts (unlike the FAA). The FCC actually allocates frequency bands for amateur use and protects those bands **from** corporate commercial use.
Imagine if the FAA actually stood up for and looked out for amateur public interests, rather than the biggest pocket book corporate stakeholders.
It's infuriating how casually and cavalier this government representative is towards the rights and freedoms "of the people."
He has it all justified in his mind and is surrounded by the pro government echo chamber.
"I'm from the government and I am here to help."
My fear is that when i take the 107 test tomorrow im going to fail like ive failed most things in life
Grow some dignity, man.
Probably, you should send me all your drone gear in the mail, and go find a cave in the hills.
When Trump and Elon get in, I suspect there will be some mass layoffs, firings, etc.
BVLOS, see and avoid. Not too relevant to the pilots on an IFR plan. They use INSTRUMENTS. The monitor on my DJI Air 3 is my instrument. I think the FAA old guys just can't relate. Does this FAA guy have ANY real experience flying a modern drone?
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I'm still mad as hell that we traditional fixed-wing RC people who have flown issue-free for decades get lumped in and punished with all the DJI drone-under-the-xmas-tree moronic drone pilots!
We don't need the FAA involved!
Ok if it's a safety issue then why cnt rec Flyer s sell their work..and depending on wat flying work your doing u use the same technique s so it seem to me.. to me.! t it juz over kill or a money grab and isnt safety is involved in all flying .?
Dude 90% of this is Bullshit..! I still dnt understand why u need a license to sell your own work.! Your personal property...this is such bullshit .! Smh smh
one needs to read the preambe to understand the answer.
It's not a license to sell, it's a license to fly.
To drive a motor vehicle you need a regular driver's license or a commercial driver's license (CDL), depending on the purpose of your driving.
Lol its not rhe same .! And first if you want sell your footage to anyone they said u need to have a license..for wat thats such nonsense.! But in the world we live in Now.! I guess it would make sense..but it is bullshit.! And they cnt controll that transaction anyway ..so wat the purpose of having a ploits license if u fly recreational it still flying and u dnt need 1 ..!! @jerseyshoredroneservices225
it's a safety issue, not a selling issue.
@VicMossPhotography dosent all flying have safety issues, and if it's not about selling then way is it in the rules.? It a person's own property they can do with it wat they will.or should be able too. So to make money using your drone.! Again is your own personal property should be permitted with out a license and u should know wat your doing before u take on a job.! Sounds like Over reach to me and a Money Grab .! Your not flying A Man plane.!