mitsubishi outlander di-d mivec 4n14 engine balance shaft problems and solutions noisy engine tap
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Just a video of what I've done to sort the tapping out of the balance shaft located at the bottom of the engine
I found a few videos online of what people have done and I've tried to make a bit of a better video to help out hope this helps
Thanks so much Lee,
Done the job, car soinds brilliant.
No worries pal glad it's sorted it mine sounded like a tank before I swapped it
cheers for the video mate, very informative.
Thanks mate appreciate it 👍
Great video. Im looking at getting one. Id be interested in hearing if its still working fine. Thanks
Yes mate no problems with engine it's on 160.000 now only problems I'm having with it at moment are front suspension issues
I've tried doing this, decoupling the balance module. Makes the engine so much quieter! However the vibration is terrible!
Someone needs to do a delete kit that involves replacement engine mounts that control the vibration!
I honestly don't think my engine vibrates anymore than any other diesel I've seen
That puff of smoke is a cracked exhaust manifold another common issue
I've not noticed it do it since haha
Lee, I've done the removal of the balance shaft as the clatter was getting ridulous,..only thing I've forgot to do is remove the 2 x plastic cover on the Pick up thingy,. Do you think it will be OK or should I remove the sump again and take them off.
Appreciate your advice.
Many thanks
Mark
No it should be fine I recon I've only done the one removal and I'm still driving the car it's all good
Thanks Lee, I'll put the oil in now.
Much appreciated.
Mark
Hi Lee,
When you removed the metal block and left the shaft in place, did you have any problems with the oil pressure at all.
There are some kits on ebay for 50 quid to block oil holes if you remove the shaft ?
No none at all the oil only pumps upto the balance shafts it dosnt go to the metal block this is why I left the shafts in as if u remove them it will drop the oil pressure as there will be no restriction in that area
Thanks Lee
Lee, I've done the removal of the balance shaft as the clatter was getting ridulous,..only thing I've forgot to do is remove the 2 x plastic cover on the Pick up thingy,. Do you think it will be OK or should I remove the sump again and take them off.
Appreciate your advice.
Many thanks
Mark
Im having a problem with my 4n14 engine rattling but its loudest when i first start the car still rattles all the time but worst when it first starts do you reckon it could be the balance shaft issue in the video
It could be mate it's hard to tell but get the car running and open bonnet have a look and see if u can pin point the noise when I had it u had to get under car and u could tell it was from near the bottom of engine hope that helps
@leesheard2466 thanks definitely sounds like the bottom just not sure as it's louder at start up then dulls down a bit just hoping it's not the chain 😬
How is the drive block thing removed, what holds it in place?
Take the sump off remove oil pickup then 4 bolts hold the balance shaft unit remove that and the block falls out its kinda wedged into position
Since doing the coupling delete there is no more noise but I’m getting a low oil pressure warning
Did u install the balance shaft unit ? Is it only the square coupling u removed?
Also did u clean all the oil pickup as it has a metal filter on the end mine had some bits of sealant stuck in so I removed all this
But I never had any other issues with mine since I did this
Hi Lee mine just done the same , does the piece you took just slide in ? How does it come out? Also where the teeth all broken inside the balance unit?
Hi i think u need to drop the balance unit for the block to come out and I didn't look at the teeth if I'm honest there was no signs of metal filings in the sump but while I had the sump off I did clean the oil pickup pipe as it had a few bits of rubber gasket on the gauze
How’s the engine going with the balance module disconnected Lee? Is it ok at higher revs? Can you please do a video of driving it showing the revs?
Yes no problems from the engine now it did have a bad idle but I found that it was a bad earth so I've fitted an earth strap kit to engine and it seems to have sorted it used to rev up and down when turning on blowers now stays at around 800 rpm
I've done a new video
Hi lee sheard I would be happy to consult with you I have a 2017 Outlander with a noise from the crank area.
1. Did you disassemble the entire unit including the gears that drive with the help of the crank?
2. Did the change not create a problem for you with oil pressure because it is clear that the amount of oil needs to be increased?
Thanks
I only removed the balance shaft unit that is 4 bolts holding it on
Then I removed the square connector block
Then refitted the balance shaft unit there is no need for more oil as the block is very small
It all depends on how bad yours is I was lucky and I saw no teeth broken on the engine side
This is why I just removed the block so it stops the balance shaft from rotation
I hope this helps
I have a 2017 outlander sport with a similar noise as the car comes to a stop sounds like a diesel truck
Hiya just wondering have you had any issues since removing the part? Thanks
No none at all well not with the engine haha I will do a video this week to show it running
I've done a new video
Do you have to remove the sump in order to access and replace the balance shaft assembly?
Yes
@@leesheard2466 is there two sections that have a gasket or use sealant? The rearmost area (which is meant to use a sealant and not a manufactured gasket) is leaking on mine. It's high up... My mechanic believes Mitsubishi lied to me in saying it wasn't something they touched or had anything to do with when doing the assembly replacement.
My mechanic doesn't believe Mitsubishi didn't touch it or cause the leak, and that I need to chase it up with them. My mechanic has looked after the vehicle pre and post warranty repair with Mitsubishi.
@Τόμας Μαγγάνα the sump dosnt have a gasket it was sealed with sealer I do also have a small oil leak but it isn't from the sump I'm not to bothered about it as its not dripping it's just damp on the engine
@@leesheard2466 in other words, the "only" way to access the balance shaft is by taking the sump off? Is there anything else that uses sealant, up behind the rear of the sump? I'm trying to find a diagram online
Mine is leaking a couple of cups between services. I do services at 7500km
@Τόμας Μαγγάνα yes boost pipes off and then sump the balance shaft is held on with 4 bolts the small softer metal square falls out of place then I just re fitted the balance shaft without the small square drive I guess u can call it
Hi Lee sorry to trouble you,I've recently picked up one of these outlander,I did notice the engine a bit noisy but I put it down to cold but when heated it was still noisy if I rev up engine it goes but as soon as idle it's noisy,,, sounds like a chain clatter, could this be your balance part you done,, cheers john
If u get the engine running get under if u can and listen it was really loud at the sump
@@leesheard2466 Thanks lee will do and just so I know,,,,if I replace the little part in your hand it will or won't fix it,,or you can't buy the part separately?? And you removed yours and driving fine,, cheers john
@john Coady so what u have to do is drain all the oil and take the sump off u will see the little part straight away I put my hand on it and gave it a wiggle saw that it was really lose so I then removed the full balance shaft unit and found that the male end on the unit was really warn so even if I had put the new wear block in place it would still have rattled I will try remember to do a follow up video tomorrow I've been driving it for a year now with this modification and I've had no problems
@@leesheard2466 thanks lee I appreciate your help ,and as much advice you can give,,I remember I had to do a hex key on my old VW jeep the key rings out and no longer circulates the oil and takes the turbo, just wondering if that's a similar my fear would be on removing would my turbo go down but yours driving well,,,thanks lee any updates I be grateful,john
Hi Lee I got distracted doing other jobs,,,but from what I gather it is bottom,,,can I still drive it until I get to it or will I blow the turbo
I did one by mistake replace Timimg chain kit 😂 now same noise. I spend 700£ for nothing
The best thing to do would be to remove the block like I did then run it see if it's OK it may be to far gone like mine was that's why I left the block out
at what mileage does it change
At what milage should u change it ?
What was it like before
Pretty bad mate I will see if I've got a video of it to upload I've fixed my phone now haha
Had a look I've got no video from before I did the work sorry
Thanks for posting but the background music is very annoying
Just uploading a year on video for u guys should be up in 20mins
Hi any part number
What for buddy ?
For a longevity of the engine sense, disabling the balance shaft operating is not a great idea. You will get excessive wear worth a lot more than the replacements of the thousands of dollars/pounds for this system to be working. They designed it and put it in there at great cost of weight and complexity for a reason.
Well it's doing just great thanks for your input it now idles at around 700rpm with no more vibration than any other diesel engine I've seen so yes it's definitely worth doing if u don't want to u don't have to 🤘