What's up guys! We understand that in this video (along with some others in The Classroom series) we don't always hit everything we could! Between the research we do, the scripts we write, and the final video we edit, a lot of information has to get dropped along the way to form concise but educative videos. Especially when it comes to watches and war, there's such a deep history there that we couldn't include all brands and watches that contributed to that amazing legacy. We probably will do a Part 2 in the future on this subject and as always appreciate the support and feedback our amazing audience always gives! Thanks!
. Its not just about that. The guy who is talking needs to talk more slowly!! He talks to fast, he cant talk with an audience who is Learning about watches and specially History in the same tone and the same momentum like he was talking with a conoisseur, or with an experience colector or someone who knows about History or to a colleage at work! He has to talk slowly, we came here to learn, this Fast? sorry becomes boring!! He needs to engage different and talk more slowly, we all had history classes at school, good History teachers and bad ones, they all have the same knowledge but the Bad ones, send us to sleep, and this guy just Made me change the Channel. obviously the same message goes to the Producer, what was he thinking? How come he clouldnt see this? Tim, not everyone has your entertaining voice, of course Ted Williams too ahahahah...Enough torturing to the guy, now on the Producer, a video about History needs to be separated into chapters and periods ans themes, basically this video when it comes to producing Quality needs more separators and more Pauses. Its very bad made.
Nice topic, but a little bit unstructured. IMHO you are mixing up the timeline a bit here. The Nato strap (aka G10) was not invented before the late 60s. and was primary in use by the UK armed forces at the time. There may have been nylon-like straps in WWII ... but no Natos. The Rolex MilSub also was not introduced before the late 60s and replaced the Omega Seamaster in use by SAS and SBS. Your info was not wrong but only badly structured. The Milsub was probably as disposable as any other issued watch at that time. It was nothing special. It was just an issued watch. Only in the last 2 decades, the prices went up to the current hights due to collectors who are willing to pay those prices. I think to a diver that got one issued, it was just a dive watch. Nothing more. If someone knows more about this first hand, please let me know.
Dude, it's kinda strange to say that a lot of the British military Rolex Submariners were destroyed in the war. These watches were first in service (by the Royal Navy) about 25 years after the war ended! :-0
No disrespect but this video is filled with so many factually incorrect statements and mangled timelines it’s weird. WWI first wrist watches were soldiers own pocket watches that they attached wires to hold a ribbon that they could tie to their sleeve. And WWII was also in South Pacific ... 😬
Why is TGV not presenting this one, considering his renowned military pedigree? You can just imagine him sitting there with the family VC pinned to his Lacoste polo ;-)
Just as dive watches were tool watches for diving, military watches were and are tool watches. Toughness, Lume, Reliability, Serviceability and Functionality were are all important. Regarding bands, in WW1 most trench watches or pilot watches still had leather bands. But many made their own canvas bands. In WW2, issue watches still had leather bands. But the leather was not durable in tropical conditions. The 18mm Canvas Military Band was widely used . BY mid-war, the famous B-1 Strap, Wrist Watch was being issued to replace the original bands on A-11s and became very popular. They were Olive Drab and made of cotton. About same time, UK starts issuing cotton and canvas straps for the W.W.Ws
I served in the Marine Corps and saw action in Afghanistan. I think it is great that many gents are into collecting military watches. However, what I find perplexing is that many gents are buying watches that they saw in a movie. For example, the Seiko Captain Willard. Martin Sheen wore a 1979 model. Oh well, boys with toys. Lol!
Interesting review. I did enjoy it. However, your timelines are a bit off. Just curious, what branch of the military did you serve? I served in the Marine Corps. Semper Fi
Good review. Although, a couple of your points were chronologically incorrect. While I was on active duty in Vietnam, I wore a Glycine Airman and a Seiko 6105. Both models were popular with Marines. While I think it is great that many young men are interested in military watches, pity they chose not to serve our country.
I learned lots here. The real takeaways from this vid is that wristwatches became popular and cultural acceptable norm due in large part to need for hands free timetelling. This is cruicial. And then that led to improvements via necessity for military uses, up to the modern gshock. The commercial wristwatch is very much tied to the history of milwatches and also to other professional use tools such as commercial diving, exploration, etc. Thanks for this vid!
I appreicate you have taken the time to make this video, but watching it feels as if not much research had been done & the guy narrating it has made it up of the top of his ahead, so the speak. This is part of the Classroom series, but I'm not sure we are learning much here!
Panerai, IWC, Stowa, Hamilton, Laco, Lange, Elgin, Seiko, GP, Zenith, Casio ...these brands were/are used mostly in REAL wars ..yet Watchbox being Watchbox had to shove in the Rolex milsub reference... I’m surprised that the Patek Nautilus or the AP RO was not mentioned somehow.
Not sure why you have an issue with the mentioning of the MIlSub. Back in the days when it was issued to SAS and SBS (70-80) it was a true tool watch and not a piece of jewelry. The only reason it is so collectible these days is the low production run and the even lower numbers that survived the time in service. Imagine if all of the commonwealth armed forces would have been issued with Rolex 5517 and there would still be 10'000 left AND Rolex would do a re-issue. Would this make the watch any less good? I don't think so. Only less collectible.
7rslender well I think there are MANY brands ahead of rolex that needed to be mentioned with regards to military use...The only reason why rolex was mentioned is because it is the holy cow for sales...Watchbox want to keep the large fan base happy..
Wondering where the Benrus watches were gonna fit into this. They never did. Benrus made watches during the Vietnam war and for Special Ops like the Navy SEALs with the Type 1 and Type 2 dive watches. I feel like the video didn't follow a chronological order in terms of the watches being mentioned, etc.
Cool that you support our troops. I did my 20 in the Marine Corps. In which branch did you serve? During Vietnam, I wore a Benrus and a Seiko 6105. I eventually picked up a Hamilton field watch, Glycine Combat Sub, and a Marathon TSAR.
I have a new Hamilton field automatic . I paid $500 for it in Canada. I love it. I also have a Timex quartz Expedition I paid $40 I took it to the Amazon rainforest .
best I like these ww2 watches with this very high “bulb” glass on it and this extra “thing” that is screwed on top of the crown. These watches were specially made for frogmen and also made by e.g. hamilton and elgin.
I despise the unnecessary negativity that exists online... but I must say that this video is just nonsensical rambling. I feel sorry for the presenter because his production crew should have never allowed this to be uploaded to TH-cam. The first minute follows reality, but it quickly unravels and becomes seriously terrible. I’ve seen this gentleman in other videos and he was fine, but it seems like he was caught in an ambush here. Pun not intended.
Watch box is a joke this guys knowledge is non existent, shit clearly dribbles downwards which clearly demonstrates the guys at the top also have zero clue, Listening to toTim is like watching paint dry, the same can be said for the Urban Gentry.
This is very messy. If you want to talk about Rolex, at least mention the British Royal Airforce and how Rolex offered to replace POW watches on an honor basis. This made Rolex grew in popularity just like Coca-Cola (No pun intended). Wasted opportunity.
You should have talked more about Elgin and Hamilton. They have an extremely long history with the US military, especially Hamilton. Also, this is a fascinating topic, but you did a horrible job presenting it. Work with Tim Mosso next time.
What's up guys! We understand that in this video (along with some others in The Classroom series) we don't always hit everything we could! Between the research we do, the scripts we write, and the final video we edit, a lot of information has to get dropped along the way to form concise but educative videos. Especially when it comes to watches and war, there's such a deep history there that we couldn't include all brands and watches that contributed to that amazing legacy. We probably will do a Part 2 in the future on this subject and as always appreciate the support and feedback our amazing audience always gives! Thanks!
. Its not just about that. The guy who is talking needs to talk more slowly!! He talks to fast, he cant talk with an audience who is Learning about watches and specially History in the same tone and the same momentum like he was talking with a conoisseur, or with an experience colector or someone who knows about History or to a colleage at work! He has to talk slowly, we came here to learn, this Fast? sorry becomes boring!! He needs to engage different and talk more slowly, we all had history classes at school, good History teachers and bad ones, they all have the same knowledge but the Bad ones, send us to sleep, and this guy just Made me change the Channel. obviously the same message goes to the Producer, what was he thinking? How come he clouldnt see this? Tim, not everyone has your entertaining voice, of course Ted Williams too ahahahah...Enough torturing to the guy, now on the Producer, a video about History needs to be separated into chapters and periods ans themes, basically this video when it comes to producing Quality needs more separators and more Pauses. Its very bad made.
Nice topic, but a little bit unstructured.
IMHO you are mixing up the timeline a bit here.
The Nato strap (aka G10) was not invented before the late 60s. and was primary in use by the UK armed forces at the time. There may have been nylon-like straps in WWII ... but no Natos.
The Rolex MilSub also was not introduced before the late 60s and replaced the Omega Seamaster in use by SAS and SBS. Your info was not wrong but only badly structured.
The Milsub was probably as disposable as any other issued watch at that time. It was nothing special. It was just an issued watch. Only in the last 2 decades, the prices went up to the current hights due to collectors who are willing to pay those prices. I think to a diver that got one issued, it was just a dive watch. Nothing more.
If someone knows more about this first hand, please let me know.
Dude, it's kinda strange to say that a lot of the British military Rolex Submariners were destroyed in the war. These watches were first in service (by the Royal Navy) about 25 years after the war ended! :-0
No disrespect but this video is filled with so many factually incorrect statements and mangled timelines it’s weird. WWI first wrist watches were soldiers own pocket watches that they attached wires to hold a ribbon that they could tie to their sleeve. And WWII was also in South Pacific ... 😬
Why is TGV not presenting this one, considering his renowned military pedigree? You can just imagine him sitting there with the family VC pinned to his Lacoste polo ;-)
Too funny. We all know TGV never served. In fact, I think he is classified as 4F.
Just as dive watches were tool watches for diving, military watches were and are tool watches. Toughness, Lume, Reliability, Serviceability and Functionality were are all important. Regarding bands, in WW1 most trench watches or pilot watches still had leather bands. But many made their own canvas bands. In WW2, issue watches still had leather bands. But the leather was not durable in tropical conditions. The 18mm Canvas Military Band was widely used . BY mid-war, the famous B-1 Strap, Wrist Watch was being issued to replace the original bands on A-11s and became very popular. They were Olive Drab and made of cotton. About same time, UK starts issuing cotton and canvas straps for the W.W.Ws
I served in the Marine Corps and saw action in Afghanistan. I think it is great that many gents are into collecting military watches. However, what I find perplexing is that many gents are buying watches that they saw in a movie. For example, the Seiko Captain Willard. Martin Sheen wore a 1979 model. Oh well, boys with toys. Lol!
I am surprised Omega wasn’t mentioned. They made lots of watches during WW2
Interesting review. I did enjoy it. However, your timelines are a bit off. Just curious, what branch of the military did you serve? I served in the Marine Corps. Semper Fi
Thank you. Awesome info, I love Military Watches.
Good review. Although, a couple of your points were chronologically incorrect. While I was on active duty in Vietnam, I wore a Glycine Airman and a Seiko 6105. Both models were popular with Marines. While I think it is great that many young men are interested in military watches, pity they chose not to serve our country.
I learned lots here. The real takeaways from this vid is that wristwatches became popular and cultural acceptable norm due in large part to need for hands free timetelling. This is cruicial. And then that led to improvements via necessity for military uses, up to the modern gshock. The commercial wristwatch is very much tied to the history of milwatches and also to other professional use tools such as commercial diving, exploration, etc. Thanks for this vid!
I appreicate you have taken the time to make this video, but watching it feels as if not much research had been done & the guy narrating it has made it up of the top of his ahead, so the speak. This is part of the Classroom series, but I'm not sure we are learning much here!
Interesting and informative. You fit a lot into 9 minutes. Make a longer one!
Loving it
Panerai, IWC, Stowa, Hamilton, Laco, Lange, Elgin, Seiko, GP, Zenith, Casio ...these brands were/are used mostly in REAL wars ..yet Watchbox being Watchbox had to shove in the Rolex milsub reference... I’m surprised that the Patek Nautilus or the AP RO was not mentioned somehow.
Not sure why you have an issue with the mentioning of the MIlSub. Back in the days when it was issued to SAS and SBS (70-80) it was a true tool watch and not a piece of jewelry.
The only reason it is so collectible these days is the low production run and the even lower numbers that survived the time in service.
Imagine if all of the commonwealth armed forces would have been issued with Rolex 5517 and there would still be 10'000 left AND Rolex would do a re-issue. Would this make the watch any less good? I don't think so. Only less collectible.
Perhaps this is why the Rolex was mentioned gearpatrol.com/2014/03/18/icon-rolex-military-submariner/
7rslender well I think there are MANY brands ahead of rolex that needed to be mentioned with regards to military use...The only reason why rolex was mentioned is because it is the holy cow for sales...Watchbox want to keep the large fan base happy..
@@algorithm007ify Now I get the picture. Thanks.
Don't forget Benrus! Totally agree with the sentiment of your comments
Love my Hamilton made mil 46374b!
CQ needs to improve his story-telling skills. I get lost in the narration. He just goes on and on.
I think he's dreamy.
Wondering where the Benrus watches were gonna fit into this. They never did. Benrus made watches during the Vietnam war and for Special Ops like the Navy SEALs with the Type 1 and Type 2 dive watches. I feel like the video didn't follow a chronological order in terms of the watches being mentioned, etc.
You forgot to mention Marathon watches. They make just excellent watches. I own two of them.
What the hell is this guy talking about!!?
Tim is the only talent on this channel. This guy is hopeless.
Cool that you support our troops. I did my 20 in the Marine Corps. In which branch did you serve? During Vietnam, I wore a Benrus and a Seiko 6105. I eventually picked up a Hamilton field watch, Glycine Combat Sub, and a Marathon TSAR.
You guys should have chose someone who talks properly.
I have a new Hamilton field automatic . I paid $500 for it in Canada. I love it. I also have a Timex quartz Expedition I paid $40 I took it to the Amazon rainforest .
best I like these ww2 watches with this very high “bulb” glass on it and this extra “thing” that is screwed on top of the crown. These watches were specially made for frogmen and also made by e.g. hamilton and elgin.
I'd go to WAR for one of those watches!
Thank you the great history lesson. I wear my sinn 856 b uhr as a tuff daily. The best keep the info coming.
Rip iooi
Ehh Long? Are they Canadian?
Quick question for the experts at watchbox - Which brand keeps better value IWC or Tudor these days in the long run?
Good video, some things not said to the correct time period, but good. Maybe slow down a bit and take a breath or two?
👍👍👍 Nicely done CQ.
I despise the unnecessary negativity that exists online... but I must say that this video is just nonsensical rambling. I feel sorry for the presenter because his production crew should have never allowed this to be uploaded to TH-cam. The first minute follows reality, but it quickly unravels and becomes seriously terrible. I’ve seen this gentleman in other videos and he was fine, but it seems like he was caught in an ambush here. Pun not intended.
I always find it amusing to see boys playing soldier. Boys with toys?))))
Watch box is a joke this guys knowledge is non existent, shit clearly dribbles downwards which clearly demonstrates the guys at the top also have zero clue, Listening to toTim is like watching paint dry, the same can be said for the Urban Gentry.
This is very messy. If you want to talk about Rolex, at least mention the British Royal Airforce and how Rolex offered to replace POW watches on an honor basis. This made Rolex grew in popularity just like Coca-Cola (No pun intended). Wasted opportunity.
You should have talked more about Elgin and Hamilton. They have an extremely long history with the US military, especially Hamilton. Also, this is a fascinating topic, but you did a horrible job presenting it. Work with Tim Mosso next time.
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