Thanks for the feature Jeremy. Tough rolls at the end but if you think about it, a PSO or a two and out will kill mostly any strategy if your playing the Light side. You explained it perfectly though. Thanks again. Hope to see you again soon my friend.
@@GeorgeFromCy George. I gave full credit to Mel on his EZ on my video if you didn’t see it and also we talked about it over the phone before I released it. I’m sorry you feel that I would do that to him.
No one is inventing strategies guys, everything’s been around for decades. Tweaks or calling things different, but nothing new. Hawaii craps shooter has great respect for Mel, as I do.
A good strategy Jeremy! Used this and made good money, but know you wanna wager the least and win the most- simple adjustment makes same $ for $21 less. Took a closer look and reduced the “entry cost” from $165 to $144- using $21 less: Place 6 &8 $42- pay $49 Place 5 $35- pay $49 Field: $25 You make net of $24 on 5,6,8 You make $25 on Field Since you’re aiming for $44, making $49 instead of $50 And having the extra $21 Already in your rack seems to make sense👍
@@ColorUp Thanks Jeremy! You’ve been in enough Casino’s to have played Baccarat… where you can play either on a “Player” hand or the “Banker” hand… similar to Craps with Pass Line & DP. Never have I seen a Baccarat table where 95%+ of players Only and Always play the “player” hand… and for good reason… there are “waves” which flow where each side wins or loses… Baccarat… players flow from one side to the other like surfers 🏄♂️ on a wave…Smart😎😎 Made 2 more adjustments: 1. Realizing 50% of shooters 7-out by P+4 and 62% are out by P+6, I start play on DP for $50. If it 7’s out by P4 to P6 depending on the table and players, I Usually won $50 without doing anything more. EZ money! 2. When the game goes past that P4-P6, I bring out this modified Quarter Pounder, and after 4 hits, have $100, and usually pull the DP at this point, because “making a point” is overdue, and $100 of $144 is CD at this point. “Saving” MY $50 is what needs to be done… the DP “tool” did its’ job. Based on a “typical” average table, this is gonna happen only 2x per hour of play… once ending about P+12-P+17 and the one “long play” which is usually between P+21-P+26. Once I figured out there’s 2-3 “waves” of energy that drive Craps, only makes sense to play DP up through P+4 to P +6 IF you want to make “regular money” with this “game of math”. Then pull in a moderate dollar maker strategy (Modified Quarter Pounder- AKA “Quarter Pounder with DPez”) that makes $$ on EVERY hit because there’s so Few hits. But, generally we rarely get to the Quarter Pounder… But when we do, after it pays for itself, next is Parlay each number as they hit… 5,6,6 & Field. Then we go from $25>>$50>>$75/ hit. That said… have been up to $425/hit! You’ve got an Awesome channel and could get more folks seeing more than seriously limited “light side only” play in craps. Craps needs to be played more like Baccarat And getting the players making More Money and having More Fun! Lemme know what you think…roll it out a few hundred times in Real play… you’ll never go back to the seriously limited way you saw Craps before… Have fun and lemme hear from you👍👍
@@tommyricks7527 Way to go!👍👍 That said, a Really small addition and you’re gonna make 200% return with this Really small easy move: Boost $35>$36 #5… pays $51 $42>$43 #6,8 pay $51 also, Adding $1 to each bet earns $2 for each & every hit!👍😎 While this is a good, small $ profit maker, you’re not gonna win much on a choppy table. Dark side, light side each lose on a choppy table…. That Is the hardest strategy to create…🤔🤔 But… I got Exactly that strategy figured out!👍👍😎
@@tommyricks7527 Here’s that Choppy table strategy: Grave Digger Green chip-Choppy Table $120 x2 + $117= $357 Come-Out 1. Dealer: Lay $120 ea. 4,10 $240 (c/o 7 pays $120) Post Point +6 2. Dealer: Place $30 5 P$42 N $27 $36 6,8 42 27 3. Me: $15 Field $15 Scenarios: Come out: 4, 10 Hit c/o (120) (When c/o=4,10>$120 to opposite for $240) 11 Hit c/o -0- 7 Hits $120 2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 -0- 75% P=5,6,8,9 = 18/24 25% = 4 & 10 = 6/24 But, Come out: 6/36 Horn= roll again 6/36 “7” = $120 profit 12/36 18/36 5,6,8,9 = -0- 30/36 = 83% gonna hit 6/36 = 4 & 10 =17% only 17% win $120 75% no loss 17% loss (120) When 4 or 10 “hit” (120), put back up and w/ 7-O= +$120= -0- (no net loss) Only way to “lose” if 4 or 10 hit 2+ times! (Rare) (P to P+6= 62% 7-Out)
One teeny tiny adjustment I would consider is hopping the fives for $6 each on the first roll your bets are live (after the come out). This way, in the event the first roll is a 5, you lose $41, win $90, for a profit of $49 just after that roll alone. This way, instead of risking $165 dollars on a second roll, you can immediately convert to $44 inside and start making pure profit. Sure you'll start with a couple bucks less when you start your 44 inside ($2-5 profit instead of $6), but it's certainly worth avoiding a seven on the second $165 roll. Same as the effect achieved when rolling a two or 12 on the first roll and being able to skip the second roll and go right to $44 inside.
This just does not pay enough to risk playing against the 7 , it takes to many inside hits to break even let alone make money . Why not hop the 7 which is far more likely to come out . I realise that leaves the 5 unattended but the 7 is the mood killer
I employed this particular strategy on my last trip to Reno. I had ok results. Not good on cold tables. In one session there were 3 point seven outs, high risk for sure. I did have some decent runs, when I got my 2 quarters with ez I placed 44 inside with a 3 dollar hard 4 and a 3 dollar hard ten, hit one and place a 10 & 4 ten dollars each.
Just spent 3 hours on this one. It was fun to get the dopamine rush on the 2 rolls, but overall lost money. 3 times in 3 hours I lost my main investment, which is hard to recoup. Since the math is on the side of short rolls, even if you make it through those 2 rolls, you often win only a small amount. Feels good to play with House money, and if a long streak happens you’re on fire, playing with no risk, which feels awesome.
I enjoy the comments section. Your the first one to comment on the dopamine rush. That’s what makes folks think they can beat the casino with these different strategies. I tell everyone all strategies work until you point seven out a few times and are down chasing your losses. I have my own craps table and get my dopamine rush with mythical betting. Lol
jeremy - thanks for this video, I used this last week and had a lot of fun, took my $400 starting bank to ~ $1200 pretty quickly, didn't walk and hit a couple quick outs, losing the $165 each and then up and down for a while. Still had fun, learned some things, like the collect and press alternating after reducing. Thanks again
I actually use this sometimes, but with a couple adjustments. I place the 6/8 for $90 each instead of $60, and I only play $30 in the Field with a $5 Hop 5. I only play this strategy when I'm shooting, and I don't roll that many 5s. 😁
I’ve watched a lot of his live rolls. They all have nicknames to which is pretty great. I always wondered what he was talking about when he says give me that quarter pounder with cheese.
I’m late to the party but when I’ve seen the Hawaii Craps Shooters roll this strategy live they usually put the $6 change on hard 4/10. And then use those winnings when they hit to spread to the place 4/10.
I wish I had seen this vid before I took my cruise two weeks ago. I played the iron cross almost exclusively and did well. But this strat, would have done very well. Thanks Jeremy! and Hawaii Craps Shooters!!...Claude
Anyone ever hear this stick call? When a 2, 3 or 12 hits during a roll the stick person can say "Swallow that come and spit it out in the field!!" Thats one of my favorites!!!
This is my one and only strategy. In the past, I would place the 6 & 8; however, I usually have monster rolls that target field bets. I adjusted my betting strategy to this strategy, which is a blessing. Thanks
Alright...just played this strat for the first time tonight. I am a low roller who plays at a really good casino (Grey Eagle in Calgary, Alberta, Canada) that happens to have a $5 table all the time! 😉 I usually play Iron Cross and was in for $300 just to feel things out. Got ground down pretty quick and down to my last $20, but recouped enough to fund the $165 needed. Laid it out and it played perfectly...collected my quarters and regressed to $44 inside and did okay, nothing huge. Fired it up again for the next shooter and got killed with a PSO. 😞 Eventually got ground down to nothing. Didn't pay attention that the table had some bad shooters with poor dice skills. Lesson learned. Took a break from the table to grab some grub, but returned later when I noticed some of the regulars showed up who know how to shoot. Eventually slowly built it back up to about $200 and then my turn to shoot came up, so I figured I would give the strategy another go if I was shooting. Before I knew it, I had regained all that I had lost and a little extra. Cashed out at $450. I know that isn't much but I am still learning. Decided to call it a night and chalked it up to a learning/testing experience...but I do like this strategy. As long as you can sweat those two first rolls! This may be my new go to strategy for some quick hits. Thanks for the tips!
@ColorUp, thank you for the video! I actually used this in Vegas, and was actually backed-off from a craps table at a smaller casino (downtown). They didn't like me getting past my two shots and using house money to make a withdrawal from the table. I'd say overall as long as you have half decent shooters and can stomach the gut shot of an early 7 its a really fun strategy to play! Thanks for the superb content!
I play variants on the iron cross, but find hopping the 5 to be a dumb move! Play $25 on the field with the 2 $60's on the 6,8. Good. Then just bet $20 on the 5 to cover the field. This is now just $165, and if you hit your 6 or 8 or field, you are up. Playing the hopping 5's is just throwing money away! Placing the 5 for the $20 means you keep the money when you pull it down. Hitting a 5 gives you a $3 profit with the loss of the field, but it will do you better long term. There are ZERO easy ways to hit. Just one 7 snatches it all away! But knowing odds makes the game better! Check it out like you rolled for this. Use the same rolls, and act like there are two players betting. Make it a good comparison. Good Luck!
for $21.00 less you can do an iron cross ...put 35 on the 5...put 42 each on the 6 & 8 and 25 in the field..144 total. You make 25 or 24 every time except of course if the 7 comes up. If you wish to do it all in one roll just double it all.
Great video and great strategy Hawaii Craps Shooter. So what is the math to make this work on a $15 table? I can roll it the same way as laid out only needing 3 hits before I lower it to $66 inside or should I raise the bet to keep it where you only needing two hits? Its that probability vs risk thing that I always have a problem with..
$15 table would be : 50 on the 5, $60 on the 6/8, $35 on the field = $205 outlay 5/6/8 wins $35 Field wins $35 2/12 wins either $70 or $105. After 2 hits (or 1 hit if 2/12) You regress to $66 inside.
I really like this method. It just seems fun. Quite a big risk though. Have you tried the hybrid where on the come out roll you lay $140 on the 4 or 10, and then $20 on the hard 4 or 10? After the number is established, you remove the bets, and then go with this standard strategy.
With little adjustment, you would make at least $27 or more per roll with just $160 initial investment. $110 inside; $20 each 4&10 ($2 Vic); then $3 on 11 and $5 on any craps.
I play this system all the time except after two hits I take my bets down then switch to the Dont come. The seven eventually will come so playing both sides in one roll works great fo rme. If a sven rolls early you will get wiped out.
I was going to say pretty much the same thing Dude. You can go broke quick on those PSO. Obviously if no 7 comes you can do well. However, leaving all that money up like so many do, makes no since to me. While yes, you racked up $25 per spin you have a net of $6 when going to 44 inside. It's just tough for me to leave that up. I love the Idea of going dark after you get profit. The 7 is coming. Note: all strategies win and all lose at any given time. So, if your hot, this will work just as good as any.
He did a video on a 7 after a crap and it almost never fails . I agree with you after so many rolls you gotta make a choice because the probabilities change also . I agree with the don't pass especially after so many rolls
You guys got me in so much trouble. Why do you always have to say the 7 will eventually come? Because of that I had a half hour until I was supposed to leave the casino so I started playing craps and now it is 2 days 3 hours and 14 minutes later and I have not thrown a 7 yet! I had to call out sick 2 days in a row. I am hungry and I am sleepy! I thought I would have been out of here already! Lol
I have been using a similar strategy since things opened back up. Place the 6&8 for 42 each and 25 in the field. I sweat the five on the first roll . I place the five with my first hit and add $10. After the second hit I have my $50.
Interesting strategy, but I would lay a number behind one of the place line bets and drop a dollar or two in the hopping seven. If the table is cold, you will only lose about two thirds of your bets. Unfortunately, there's a lot more craps tables I've noticed, that keep changing their policy on hopping bets. I've seen a few players actually try this strategy, but instead of using the field, they hop the numbers that they cannot place which means they have a ton of proposition bets all the time.
tip: switch the white and green chips on your "working stacks" I saw him playing this strat on his videos last week when they were in vegas, I am going to try it out in Jackpot this weekend!
@@Mr007troy Nah, I still have about 500 in my database haha, just relocating to Reno has been a lot, and my day job piled up. Will be back to making regular consistent videos now!
I tried this today at Red Hawk Casino at Sacramento, CA. $300 bankroll. I cleared over $100 on the first roll! I went up and down due to some short rolls, but colored up with $120 profit. I liked this strategy as did the dealers who commented on it. Nice!
I'm going to the casino Saturday night. I'll let you know how the system works out. I always play roulette. The problem I have with shooting dice is the table is so long I can't see the dice.....
I watch a lot of your vids and kinda like this strategy. I usually lose when I play but have a good time anyway. But I’d love for you to do a vid on hop bets as I really don’t know what they are and could use a little schooling.
I originally was a big fan of the quarter pounder but I did the math and the expected win per role when you put in the probabilities is actually worse than just putting out 160 across and 5 on the horn high 1/2. At a 12 pays double odds table the quarter pounder has an average win based on probabilities of = 28.67/roll if you remove the 7s from the probabilities (ie 30 winning combinations) If 12 pays 3x table = 29.83/roll By using the same $165 if you go $160 across and put $5 on the horn high yo = it is 35.07/roll (assuming $49 wins in the 4/10 after the vig). The only issue is that the 1/2 only pays $11. For 1 extra dollar it will pay $26. So with $166 you can get = $35.93/roll. So for the same money you are better off going 160 across and and $6 horn (1,2,2,1). In the normal quarter pounder you are hoping to hit the 2/12 to get out in 1 roll. But with the across strategy you are hoping for the 4/10 which has 6 combinations vs 2 combinations for the 2/12. Also the 6/8/9 pay $35 instead of $25. And 4/10 pay $49 instead of $25. So if you’re going to put out $165, it’s mathematically better to do it this way. Also after any two hits you will still be in profit (minimum of $50 but most likely $70 with two inside hits)
I'm a novice trying to learn. Would you oblige me with a deeper explanation? Here's what I think you mean, but please correct me if I'm wrong: Buy the 4 and 10 for $25 each Place $25 on the 5 and 9 Place $30 on the 6 and 8 $1 each on the 2, 3, and 12 $2 on the 11 Did I miss something? I'm not seeing how that leads to pure profit after 2 rolls after the comeout (if you avoid 7ing out).
@@cubfan369 everything right except for the horn bet. You would bet $1 each on the 2 and 12, and $2 each on the 3 and 11. If a 2 hit you win $30-$5= $25 (lose $1 on the 12, and $2 each on the 3 and 11). So if worse case scenario happens (first 2 rolls are 2 and/or 12 you win $50 then regress to $44 inside. If a 3 hits you win $30-$4 = $26. Same thing with the 11 If a 4 or 10 hit you win $50-$1 vig - $6 horn= $43 and then regress to $44 inside. Big deal you are out $1 on 1 hit. Any inside number hits you win $35-$6 = $29. So any scenario you are out of the hand with your $44 paid for after any 2 hits. Can be break even almost with a hit on the 4/10
Is it appealing to play 30 in the field and a horn high 12. You still win in the field but extra with 2/3/11/12 - harder rolls to roll benefit you a little more than they’re supposed to
I call my strategy “FAST or FURIOUS’. Pretty much your win a bunch fast or your furious. Basically it’s a quick game. Your bankroll needs to be $500 On a $480 risk. Ideal winning scenario is two wins before red. Then you end session. You play only 6&8 on a $480 split on both. If you lose on first roll session ends and you lost $480. If you will in first roll and lose on second roll you also end session with a $200 loss. If you hit both you end session and remove all bets and you win $560 on a $480 risk. So basically you win fast or your furious. But a quick $560 win isn’t bad. Give it a try.
This strategy is not recommended for long term. It’s a one shot two roll chance. If you win walk away with $560 or switch to a more conservative strategy with your $560 win. If you lose you still have $20 that you didn’t gamble. Go to the buffet or get a stiff drink. Your done.
So I've watched several of your videos over the past yr. Where in the world can I get casino grade die? I've ordered several different ones off of Amazon, but they keep on sending me different sizes. Even though it specifically says 20 or 19, but they are the same size and significantly smaller than the Casino dice. At our local casino.....
Yes, Amazon dice are from China, and not used in casinos. Only two manufacturers supply dice for casinos. I order from time to time, but do not have currently. Real dice will not be in mm size but either .755 or .775 inch. I think Hawaii craps shooters have some. Can also check with Steve heavy haltom.
You can do a regular hard way before the come out roll. Depending on the table they will be working or not working, just ask the dealer to have it working. You could alternatively do a hardway hop if you like.
I’ve talked to him about it a couple times. We were going to try and collaborate but hasn’t worked out. Does he have one specific? Or couple different? Email me a link to his main strategy dice@colorup.club
So you risk $165 on the first roll and between $105- $140 on the second roll (depending on if the 5 or 2/12 is rolled on the first roll or not) against 7 with (18.75% chance of 7 on each roll). The chances of rolling at least one 7 in 2 rolls is 37.5%. With this bet you have a 62.5% chance of winning between $50-$120 (assuming double pay on the 2 and 12, you could win $120 if hit on both rolls) and a 37.5% chance of losing $105-$165.
@@ColorUp Yeah, your chances of surviving just one roll and then pulling it down increase your chances of winning to 83.33% for $25-$60 and only 16.67% chance of losing $165. But I agree, if you can get at least 2 hits and then bet your winnings on the hope of a long roll you could build up cash fast.
Excellent comment! I try to explain to folks on my craps table the risk vs reward probabilities and why the house always wins in the long run. So thank you for bringing a measure of intelligence to the comments section. Good luck!
If you did the two hit strategy in the long run but just turned off your bets to reset to a new shooter or to avoid getting 7 would this be profitable?
This can be profitable but not in the long run. You win $50 per shooter. But say you get smacked on a pso. It will take you about 3 other shooters to make your money back. So you have to have a 3 to 1 ratio. I think the point of this startegy is to get your money out quickly and tread water till you hit a decent roll. So press aggressively once your money is out. Don’t just sit there and take your $14 hits.
would it be wiser to bet that on any 7 or hop it if your allowed , at least that hedges the initial roll out and has better odds , the any 7 is only 4 to 1 but what would a hop bet on the 7 be if thats possible
Hey color up , howa are you ?.. u are talking about (hop the 5 ) what dose that mean and i asked the dealer on the online casion they didnt know what it means. can u tell me what it means thanks.
I have a question about the field bet. If after the point is established and I choose to turn the place bets off, does the field bet continue or is it also off?
I JUST like the 2 rolls for at LEAST $50 PER person possibility with NO additional $44 action until I get the chance to shoot the dice because MOST people SUCK and CANNOT roll MORE than 3-4 times MAX before they 7-out!
I think I'm with you on this. Also I think you're only risking $158. So you just reduced the risk $7 and if you hit 2 or 12 you can go inside immediately. If you hit 4, 6, 8, or ten, or any of those combinations twice you'll have more than $50. You could potentially be looking at a $30 profit after going $44 inside.
They both result in a 5 total but they are two different dice combinations. The best way to understand this is to have two different colored die. ie. Red and white. If red die lands on 1 first and then white lands on 4. That is one way to create Combo. Then reverse would be second way.
$35 bet in field, if field rolls you win $35. If 5,6 or 8 rolls, you lose field but win enough from those bets to replace field bet and still have $25. the $60 place bet on 6/8 pays $70, the hop bet on 5 wins $70
@@ColorUp Right, but say you roll a 4, you win 35 on the field bet plus you have your original 35 field bet for a total of 70 , you lose the hop bet and the 6&8 for a loss of 130 resulting in a 60 net loss.
@@ColorUp thank you for the quick replay. Also, when you win the $25 with this strategy … is that $25 profit? I am new to craps and I find it beyond confusing. Haha
It is profit for that particular roll, but you still have $165 at risk, until all the bets are removed or decreased, you will lose money. Might not want to start with this strategy as a beginner. I have a free beginner course on my website you may want to check out at colorup.club
Yes, if you walked away after first roll it would be $25 profit. But not a good idea to risk $165 to win $25. You’d be better off just making a $25 bet on pass line, or any other number and hoping it rolls.
So we risk 165 to win 55, and then put 44 of that profit at risk? Not enough reward for the risk. I could lay the 4 or 10 for 160, pay 4 dollars in vig and profit 76. Not only would I profit more but I'm a 2:1 favorite to win.
@@ColorUp 100%, if there was a strategy that could beat the game we wouldn't need all these great videos! Ultimately have to do what's most fun for you and represents your play style.
I follow Hawaii craps shooters also really like the strategy only thing I don't like about it if the point is an inside number better to throw a pass line bet down and do odds.
@PJ Strong if you are playing the pass line, yes, it will always pay better to play the odds bet vs place bet equal amount on place bet. If not making a line bet, I can make a case the place bet is better until a certain amount.
I’ve seen that by others, but they tell me reason why is just so they can visually track bets better, and to mentally stay on top of their bets. If it’s helpful to them I guess the couple dollars they are losing out is worth it to them. 🤷♂️ Not a huge deal to me.
You can only help so much, I would suggest a player make a proper bet once or twice, but after that….? I teach the game to best of my ability. What players do with that advice I can’t control, that’s why it’s not a big deal to me. It’s their money. Prop bets are not ideal, but players love them
42 on 6/8 , 35 on 5, 25 on field. 5/6/8 win $24 per roll 3/4/9/10/11 win $25 per roll 2/12 win $50 or $75 (if triple on one of them). Either way you are out in 2 rolls and out in 1 roll if it’s a 2/12
Same. If you have a small bankroll it’s a great way to come up a little after one roll and then play more conservative after. I’ll talk a $50 profit all day
Inside numbers are 5,6,8,8. Outside numbers are 4,10. So a bet if $44 inside is $44 total on the 5,6,8,9. Or $10,$12,$12,$10. With $12 being the proper bet for 6/8
Not too fond of this one. It's a lot of up-front risk for the opportunity to chip away a little bit with $44 inside. Rolling a seven before you get your two quarters is devastating. Seems like you would be better off just starting off with $44 inside out of your bankroll.
@@ColorUp you’re right. I wasn’t thinking clearly. 🤦♂️. I forgot about the $165 in play every roll. Been a long first day of football season. Keep up the great work.
Check out his channel here m.th-cam.com/users/HawaiiCrapsShooters
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What if seven rolls
@@joemartin9904 like most strategies, you lose
@@ColorUp my house is a $5 table. Only show in a 2 hour drive 🙃 I wouldn’t say our casino is trashy, but just a smaller market
Thanks for the feature Jeremy. Tough rolls at the end but if you think about it, a PSO or a two and out will kill mostly any strategy if your playing the Light side. You explained it perfectly though. Thanks again. Hope to see you again soon my friend.
Yes sir, thanks for sharing it with me. 🤙
Hey HCS was this started by mel or all of you guys , Who thought/made this strategy?
The least you could do bro is give some credit to Craps Hawaii who calls it the EZ 75
@@GeorgeFromCy George. I gave full credit to Mel on his EZ on my video if you didn’t see it and also we talked about it over the phone before I released it. I’m sorry you feel that I would do that to him.
No one is inventing strategies guys, everything’s been around for decades. Tweaks or calling things different, but nothing new. Hawaii craps shooter has great respect for Mel, as I do.
You can do this for cheaper by doing $42 6&8, $35 5, and $25 field. Make $24, $25, or $50 a roll. Don't need to keep bugging the dealer with hop bets.
A good strategy Jeremy!
Used this and made good money, but know you wanna wager the least and win the most- simple adjustment makes same $ for $21 less.
Took a closer look and reduced the “entry cost” from $165 to $144- using $21 less:
Place 6 &8 $42- pay $49
Place 5 $35- pay $49
Field: $25
You make net of $24 on 5,6,8
You make $25 on Field
Since you’re aiming for $44, making $49 instead of $50 And having the extra $21 Already in your rack seems to make sense👍
Good adjustment!
@@ColorUp Thanks Jeremy!
You’ve been in enough Casino’s to have played Baccarat… where you can play either on a “Player” hand or the “Banker” hand… similar to Craps with Pass Line & DP.
Never have I seen a Baccarat table where 95%+ of players Only and Always play the “player” hand… and for good reason… there are “waves” which flow where each side wins or loses… Baccarat… players flow from one side to the other like surfers 🏄♂️ on a wave…Smart😎😎
Made 2 more adjustments:
1. Realizing 50% of shooters 7-out by P+4 and 62% are out by P+6, I start play on DP for $50. If it 7’s out by P4 to P6 depending on the table and players, I Usually won $50 without doing anything more. EZ money!
2. When the game goes past that P4-P6, I bring out this modified Quarter Pounder, and after 4 hits, have $100, and usually pull the DP at this point, because “making a point” is overdue, and $100 of $144 is CD at this point. “Saving” MY $50 is what needs to be done… the DP “tool” did its’ job.
Based on a “typical” average table, this is gonna happen only 2x per hour of play… once ending about P+12-P+17 and the one “long play” which is usually between P+21-P+26.
Once I figured out there’s 2-3 “waves” of energy that drive Craps, only makes sense to play DP up through P+4 to P +6 IF you want to make “regular money” with this “game of math”.
Then pull in a moderate dollar maker strategy (Modified Quarter Pounder- AKA “Quarter Pounder with DPez”) that makes $$ on EVERY hit because there’s so Few hits. But, generally we rarely get to the Quarter Pounder… But when we do, after it pays for itself, next is Parlay each number as they hit… 5,6,6 & Field.
Then we go from $25>>$50>>$75/ hit. That said… have been up to $425/hit!
You’ve got an Awesome channel and could get more folks seeing more than seriously limited “light side only” play in craps. Craps needs to be played more like Baccarat And getting the players making More Money and having More Fun!
Lemme know what you think…roll it out a few hundred times in Real play… you’ll never go back to the seriously limited way you saw Craps before…
Have fun and lemme hear from you👍👍
I just used this strategy (35, 42 and 42), the same way and won $875.00, my first time using it. Thanks TJ
@@tommyricks7527 Way to go!👍👍
That said, a Really small addition and you’re gonna make 200% return with this Really small easy move:
Boost $35>$36 #5… pays $51
$42>$43 #6,8 pay $51 also,
Adding $1 to each bet earns $2 for each & every hit!👍😎
While this is a good, small $ profit maker, you’re not gonna win much on a choppy table. Dark side, light side each lose on a choppy table…. That Is the hardest strategy to create…🤔🤔
But… I got Exactly that strategy figured out!👍👍😎
@@tommyricks7527 Here’s that Choppy table strategy:
Grave Digger
Green chip-Choppy Table
$120 x2 + $117= $357
Come-Out
1. Dealer:
Lay $120 ea. 4,10 $240
(c/o 7 pays $120)
Post Point +6
2. Dealer:
Place $30 5 P$42 N $27
$36 6,8 42 27
3. Me: $15 Field $15
Scenarios:
Come out:
4, 10 Hit c/o (120)
(When c/o=4,10>$120
to opposite for $240)
11 Hit c/o -0-
7 Hits $120
2,3,5,6,8,9,10,11,12 -0-
75% P=5,6,8,9 = 18/24
25% = 4 & 10 = 6/24 But,
Come out:
6/36 Horn= roll again
6/36 “7” = $120 profit 12/36
18/36 5,6,8,9 = -0-
30/36 = 83% gonna hit
6/36 = 4 & 10 =17% only
17% win $120
75% no loss
17% loss (120)
When 4 or 10 “hit” (120), put back up and w/ 7-O= +$120= -0- (no net loss)
Only way to “lose” if 4 or
10 hit 2+ times! (Rare)
(P to P+6= 62% 7-Out)
One teeny tiny adjustment I would consider is hopping the fives for $6 each on the first roll your bets are live (after the come out). This way, in the event the first roll is a 5, you lose $41, win $90, for a profit of $49 just after that roll alone. This way, instead of risking $165 dollars on a second roll, you can immediately convert to $44 inside and start making pure profit. Sure you'll start with a couple bucks less when you start your 44 inside ($2-5 profit instead of $6), but it's certainly worth avoiding a seven on the second $165 roll.
Same as the effect achieved when rolling a two or 12 on the first roll and being able to skip the second roll and go right to $44 inside.
This just does not pay enough to risk playing against the 7 , it takes to many inside hits to break even let alone make money .
Why not hop the 7 which is far more likely to come out .
I realise that leaves the 5 unattended but the 7 is the mood killer
I employed this particular strategy on my last trip to Reno. I had ok results. Not good on cold tables. In one session there were 3 point seven outs, high risk for sure. I did have some decent runs, when I got my 2 quarters with ez I placed 44 inside with a 3 dollar hard 4 and a 3 dollar hard ten, hit one and place a 10 & 4 ten dollars each.
Just spent 3 hours on this one. It was fun to get the dopamine rush on the 2 rolls, but overall lost money. 3 times in 3 hours I lost my main investment, which is hard to recoup. Since the math is on the side of short rolls, even if you make it through those 2 rolls, you often win only a small amount.
Feels good to play with House money, and if a long streak happens you’re on fire, playing with no risk, which feels awesome.
I enjoy the comments section. Your the first one to comment on the dopamine rush. That’s what makes folks think they can beat the casino with these different strategies. I tell everyone all strategies work until you point seven out a few times and are down chasing your losses. I have my own craps table and get my dopamine rush with mythical betting. Lol
jeremy - thanks for this video, I used this last week and had a lot of fun, took my $400 starting bank to ~ $1200 pretty quickly, didn't walk and hit a couple quick outs, losing the $165 each and then up and down for a while. Still had fun, learned some things, like the collect and press alternating after reducing. Thanks again
Thanks for this one Jeremy! I played on a $15 table with a $36 (6&8) / $20 Field / $6 Hop. I enjoyed this one.
By far my favourite strategy you have shown, with a close runner up being "Avoid early 7 outs"!
I actually use this sometimes, but with a couple adjustments. I place the 6/8 for $90 each instead of $60, and I only play $30 in the Field with a $5 Hop 5. I only play this strategy when I'm shooting, and I don't roll that many 5s. 😁
I did this on the bubble craps at the Tropicana over the holiday weekend. Did pretty well with it. Instead of the 44 inside I just did two come bets.
I’ve watched a lot of his live rolls. They all have nicknames to which is pretty great. I always wondered what he was talking about when he says give me that quarter pounder with cheese.
I’m late to the party but when I’ve seen the Hawaii Craps Shooters roll this strategy live they usually put the $6 change on hard 4/10. And then use those winnings when they hit to spread to the place 4/10.
I just did this strategy at a quarter table. Had to adjust to three rolls. It's such a good strategy and I won x6 what I put down.
I am curious your specific adjustments, thanks
I wish I had seen this vid before I took my cruise two weeks ago. I played the iron cross almost exclusively and did well. But this strat, would have done very well. Thanks Jeremy! and Hawaii Craps Shooters!!...Claude
Anyone ever hear this stick call? When a 2, 3 or 12 hits during a roll the stick person can say "Swallow that come and spit it out in the field!!" Thats one of my favorites!!!
This is my one and only strategy. In the past, I would place the 6 & 8; however, I usually have monster rolls that target field bets. I adjusted my betting strategy to this strategy, which is a blessing. Thanks
Nice!
Alright...just played this strat for the first time tonight. I am a low roller who plays at a really good casino (Grey Eagle in Calgary, Alberta, Canada) that happens to have a $5 table all the time! 😉
I usually play Iron Cross and was in for $300 just to feel things out. Got ground down pretty quick and down to my last $20, but recouped enough to fund the $165 needed. Laid it out and it played perfectly...collected my quarters and regressed to $44 inside and did okay, nothing huge. Fired it up again for the next shooter and got killed with a PSO. 😞 Eventually got ground down to nothing. Didn't pay attention that the table had some bad shooters with poor dice skills. Lesson learned.
Took a break from the table to grab some grub, but returned later when I noticed some of the regulars showed up who know how to shoot. Eventually slowly built it back up to about $200 and then my turn to shoot came up, so I figured I would give the strategy another go if I was shooting. Before I knew it, I had regained all that I had lost and a little extra. Cashed out at $450. I know that isn't much but I am still learning. Decided to call it a night and chalked it up to a learning/testing experience...but I do like this strategy. As long as you can sweat those two first rolls! This may be my new go to strategy for some quick hits. Thanks for the tips!
Its great if you can get past the first two rolls. But if you can't, it takes a bit to earn back that big loss.
@ColorUp, thank you for the video! I actually used this in Vegas, and was actually backed-off from a craps table at a smaller casino (downtown). They didn't like me getting past my two shots and using house money to make a withdrawal from the table. I'd say overall as long as you have half decent shooters and can stomach the gut shot of an early 7 its a really fun strategy to play! Thanks for the superb content!
Backed off for essentially an iron cross?
I have never seen a back off at a craps table. Unless being an a$$. Its not like blackjack where you can gain an advantage by counting cards
I play variants on the iron cross, but find hopping the 5 to be a dumb move! Play $25 on the field with the 2 $60's on the 6,8. Good. Then just bet $20 on the 5 to cover the field. This is now just $165, and if you hit your 6 or 8 or field, you are up. Playing the hopping 5's is just throwing money away! Placing the 5 for the $20 means you keep the money when you pull it down. Hitting a 5 gives you a $3 profit with the loss of the field, but it will do you better long term. There are ZERO easy ways to hit. Just one 7 snatches it all away! But knowing odds makes the game better! Check it out like you rolled for this. Use the same rolls, and act like there are two players betting. Make it a good comparison. Good Luck!
Second time I used the strategy at Red Hawk again...success...$300 bank roll...$200 profit in 1/2 hour!
It's rare to find $10 tables here in Philly, so I'd switch to the 6/8 stretch after the first 2 hits, playing on a $15 table. Only $1 at risk 😁
Can you explain your strategy for a newbie? I have 15 dollar tables in Indiana.
Reminds me of another strategy. Cheaper for the same thing basically. $35 on 5, $42 on 6&8. $25 in the field.
The "easy" refers to the iron cross with the 5 hopping, which was created by Mel an OG craps creator from Hawaii too.
Played this two days in a row and I’m $900 up! This is an easy one to keep in my back pocket!
Is he saying HOP bet or HOT bet?? I'm going next week and want to know how to play this
Hop th-cam.com/video/M8zu4yDkyE0/w-d-xo.html
Hop bet one roll bet nice pay out tho, is that right?
Hop bet pays 15:1 and for a hardway hop 30:1
for $21.00 less you can do an iron cross ...put 35 on the 5...put 42 each on the 6 & 8 and 25 in the field..144 total. You make 25 or 24 every time except of course if the 7 comes up. If you wish to do it all in one roll just double it all.
Weird that this wasnt thought of. Maybe he wants greens and not having to carry whites?
Fascinating strategy, but it's definitely an in-and-out type of system.
Great video and great strategy Hawaii Craps Shooter. So what is the math to make this work on a $15 table? I can roll it the same way as laid out only needing 3 hits before I lower it to $66 inside or should I raise the bet to keep it where you only needing two hits? Its that probability vs risk thing that I always have a problem with..
$15 table would be : 50 on the 5, $60 on the 6/8, $35 on the field = $205 outlay
5/6/8 wins $35
Field wins $35
2/12 wins either $70 or $105.
After 2 hits (or 1 hit if 2/12) You regress to $66 inside.
I really like this method. It just seems fun. Quite a big risk though. Have you tried the hybrid where on the come out roll you lay $140 on the 4 or 10, and then $20 on the hard 4 or 10? After the number is established, you remove the bets, and then go with this standard strategy.
With little adjustment, you would make at least $27 or more per roll with just $160 initial investment. $110 inside; $20 each 4&10 ($2 Vic); then $3 on 11 and $5 on any craps.
I play this system all the time except after two hits I take my bets down then switch to the Dont come. The seven eventually will come so playing both sides in one roll works great fo rme. If a sven rolls early you will get wiped out.
I was going to say pretty much the same thing Dude.
You can go broke quick on those PSO. Obviously if no 7 comes you can do well. However, leaving all that money up like so many do, makes no since to me. While yes, you racked up $25 per spin you have a net of $6 when going to 44 inside. It's just tough for me to leave that up. I love the Idea of going dark after you get profit. The 7 is coming.
Note: all strategies win and all lose at any given time. So, if your hot, this will work just as good as any.
He did a video on a 7 after a crap and it almost never fails .
I agree with you after so many rolls you gotta make a choice because the probabilities change also .
I agree with the don't pass especially after so many rolls
You guys got me in so much trouble. Why do you always have to say the 7 will eventually come? Because of that I had a half hour until I was supposed to leave the casino so I started playing craps and now it is 2 days 3 hours and 14 minutes later and I have not thrown a 7 yet! I had to call out sick 2 days in a row. I am hungry and I am sleepy! I thought I would have been out of here already! Lol
I am very much so not a hater or a critic, but I love dice. And support your channel 100% lol
Big fan of both Jeremy and Brian! Aloha
I'm headed to Vegas this December. I'm going to add this to my bag of tricks.
I have been using a similar strategy since things opened back up. Place the 6&8 for 42 each and 25 in the field. I sweat the five on the first roll
. I place the five with my first hit and add $10. After the second hit I have my $50.
I'd call it the Double Quarter Pounder w/ EZ, bc you win 2 quarters.
Perfect
Definitely a good strategy since TOO MANY shooters seven-out VERY quickly!!!
Interesting strategy, but I would lay a number behind one of the place line bets and drop a dollar or two in the hopping seven. If the table is cold, you will only lose about two thirds of your bets. Unfortunately, there's a lot more craps tables I've noticed, that keep changing their policy on hopping bets. I've seen a few players actually try this strategy, but instead of using the field, they hop the numbers that they cannot place which means they have a ton of proposition bets all the time.
tip: switch the white and green chips on your "working stacks" I saw him playing this strat on his videos last week when they were in vegas, I am going to try it out in Jackpot this weekend!
Yep, higher denominations go towards inside of table….weird I made that mistake, it has been awhile since I last filmed
@@ColorUp I actually really miss your videos. Do you need some strats to test out?
@@Mr007troy Nah, I still have about 500 in my database haha, just relocating to Reno has been a lot, and my day job piled up. Will be back to making regular consistent videos now!
JEREMY, Could you tell me the set up for a $15 dollars table? Cruise ships are 15 bucks. Thanks
Pretty cool strategy will definitely try it out at least once when I’m headed back to Vegas in March
I tried this today at Red Hawk Casino at Sacramento, CA. $300 bankroll. I cleared over $100 on the first roll! I went up and down due to some short rolls, but colored up with $120 profit.
I liked this strategy as did the dealers who commented on it. Nice!
nice!!
I'm going to the casino Saturday night. I'll let you know how the system works out. I always play roulette. The problem I have with shooting dice is the table is so long I can't see the dice.....
Good luck and have fun
I watch a lot of your vids and kinda like this strategy. I usually lose when I play but have a good time anyway. But I’d love for you to do a vid on hop bets as I really don’t know what they are and could use a little schooling.
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I originally was a big fan of the quarter pounder but I did the math and the expected win per role when you put in the probabilities is actually worse than just putting out 160 across and 5 on the horn high 1/2.
At a 12 pays double odds table the quarter pounder has an average win based on probabilities of = 28.67/roll if you remove the 7s from the probabilities (ie 30 winning combinations)
If 12 pays 3x table = 29.83/roll
By using the same $165 if you go $160 across and put $5 on the horn high yo = it is 35.07/roll (assuming $49 wins in the 4/10 after the vig). The only issue is that the 1/2 only pays $11. For 1 extra dollar it will pay $26.
So with $166 you can get = $35.93/roll.
So for the same money you are better off going 160 across and and $6 horn (1,2,2,1). In the normal quarter pounder you are hoping to hit the 2/12 to get out in 1 roll. But with the across strategy you are hoping for the 4/10 which has 6 combinations vs 2 combinations for the 2/12. Also the 6/8/9 pay $35 instead of $25. And 4/10 pay $49 instead of $25.
So if you’re going to put out $165, it’s mathematically better to do it this way. Also after any two hits you will still be in profit (minimum of $50 but most likely $70 with two inside hits)
I'm a novice trying to learn. Would you oblige me with a deeper explanation? Here's what I think you mean, but please correct me if I'm wrong:
Buy the 4 and 10 for $25 each
Place $25 on the 5 and 9
Place $30 on the 6 and 8
$1 each on the 2, 3, and 12
$2 on the 11
Did I miss something? I'm not seeing how that leads to pure profit after 2 rolls after the comeout (if you avoid 7ing out).
@@cubfan369 everything right except
for the horn bet. You would bet $1 each on the 2 and 12, and $2 each on the 3 and 11.
If a 2 hit you win $30-$5= $25 (lose $1 on the 12, and $2 each on the 3 and 11). So if worse case scenario happens (first 2 rolls are 2 and/or 12 you win $50 then regress to $44 inside.
If a 3 hits you win $30-$4 = $26. Same thing with the 11
If a 4 or 10 hit you win $50-$1 vig - $6 horn= $43 and then regress to $44 inside. Big deal you are out $1 on 1 hit.
Any inside number hits you win $35-$6 = $29.
So any scenario you are out of the hand with your $44 paid for after any 2 hits. Can be break even almost with a hit on the 4/10
@@iptvclub1575Got it. Thanks for the explanation!
Something old and something new... that 44 inside... 10 12 12 10... that would flow into split the sisters perfectly
Is it appealing to play 30 in the field and a horn high 12. You still win in the field but extra with 2/3/11/12 - harder rolls to roll benefit you a little more than they’re supposed to
Where would you recommend getting a practice table/felt for home use?
Amazon has $10 cheap ones. If you want a nice one like mine casino4you or casinosupply
Would love to see this one again.
I call my strategy “FAST or FURIOUS’. Pretty much your win a bunch fast or your furious.
Basically it’s a quick game.
Your bankroll needs to be $500 On a $480 risk. Ideal winning scenario is two wins before red. Then you end session. You play only 6&8 on a $480 split on both. If you lose on first roll session ends and you lost $480. If you will in first roll and lose on second roll you also end session with a $200 loss. If you hit both you end session and remove all bets and you win $560 on a $480 risk.
So basically you win fast or your furious. But a quick $560 win isn’t bad.
Give it a try.
This strategy is not recommended for long term. It’s a one shot two roll chance. If you win walk away with $560 or switch to a more conservative strategy with your $560 win. If you lose you still have $20 that you didn’t gamble. Go to the buffet or get a stiff drink. Your done.
No strategy is recommended for long term. They all win sometimes, no strategy wins all the time.
Nice video! Don't forget the link to his channel you mentioned in the video.
Thanks Jim, I forgot and will do right now!!!!
@@ColorUp You are welcome!
So I've watched several of your videos over the past yr. Where in the world can I get casino grade die? I've ordered several different ones off of Amazon, but they keep on sending me different sizes. Even though it specifically says 20 or 19, but they are the same size and significantly smaller than the Casino dice. At our local casino.....
Yes, Amazon dice are from China, and not used in casinos. Only two manufacturers supply dice for casinos. I order from time to time, but do not have currently. Real dice will not be in mm size but either .755 or .775 inch. I think Hawaii craps shooters have some. Can also check with Steve heavy haltom.
@ColorUp Ty so very much. Appreciate the quick response, and the awesome content. 💪🏾
How can you use this strategy and not use as much up front? How does that math work?
How do u bet on hard ways before the come out. Change it to a hop bet on the come out if ur feeling it?
You can do a regular hard way before the come out roll. Depending on the table they will be working or not working, just ask the dealer to have it working. You could alternatively do a hardway hop if you like.
Would hopping the 7 mean we would only need to look out for the 5?
Squid cross, lay the 5 for 30, 6 n 8 for$6 each and 4$field, electronic tables. 8 pressed hits and down
So is the rationale vs just doing $160 across so that you’re collecting on the horn numbers?
I like this strategy.... Very cool and thanks for sharing it.
Glad you liked it!
If you add $13 to the field after going $44 inside, you pick up a few extra wins too, and still get your quarter 😊
Jeremy, have you ever run Drunk Guy Explains' method ?
I’ve talked to him about it a couple times. We were going to try and collaborate but hasn’t worked out. Does he have one specific? Or couple different? Email me a link to his main strategy dice@colorup.club
The best there is by far!
So how much did you profit at the end?
Jeremy, if you get your two quarters, could we call that Hawaii 5-0?
Ha
Nope, Bryan already has another strategy called the Hawaii 5-0. Check out his channel.
So you risk $165 on the first roll and between $105- $140 on the second roll (depending on if the 5 or 2/12 is rolled on the first roll or not) against 7 with (18.75% chance of 7 on each roll). The chances of rolling at least one 7 in 2 rolls is 37.5%. With this bet you have a 62.5% chance of winning between $50-$120 (assuming double pay on the 2 and 12, you could win $120 if hit on both rolls) and a 37.5% chance of losing $105-$165.
Yeah, the risk reward is not great first two rolls….but if you can just get past those two…..
@@ColorUp Yeah, your chances of surviving just one roll and then pulling it down increase your chances of winning to 83.33% for $25-$60 and only 16.67% chance of losing $165. But I agree, if you can get at least 2 hits and then bet your winnings on the hope of a long roll you could build up cash fast.
Excellent comment! I try to explain to folks on my craps table the risk vs reward probabilities and why the house always wins in the long run. So thank you for bringing a measure of intelligence to the comments section. Good luck!
I think this is the first time I've ever seen Jeremy roll The Devil's Gambit. 😃
If you did the two hit strategy in the long run but just turned off your bets to reset to a new shooter or to avoid getting 7 would this be profitable?
No strategy is profitable on long run. That’s why there is no such thing as a professional dice player. But with some 🍀 luck, this can win.
This can be profitable but not in the long run. You win $50 per shooter. But say you get smacked on a pso. It will take you about 3 other shooters to make your money back. So you have to have a 3 to 1 ratio. I think the point of this startegy is to get your money out quickly and tread water till you hit a decent roll. So press aggressively once your money is out. Don’t just sit there and take your $14 hits.
would it be wiser to bet that on any 7 or hop it if your allowed ,
at least that hedges the initial roll out and has better odds ,
the any 7 is only 4 to 1 but what would a hop bet on the 7 be if thats possible
You can hop the 7’s there are 3 different hop bets for the seven and each pays 15:1
can you do a another craples vid
Seems just as easy to go $162 across with an $8 horn. Slightly more ($5) risk, but far better payouts across the board.
Hey color up , howa are you ?.. u are talking about (hop the 5 ) what dose that mean and i asked the dealer on the online casion they didnt know what it means. can u tell me what it means
thanks.
Here is a video I did about hop bets
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I have a question about the field bet. If after the point is established and I choose to turn the place bets off, does the field bet continue or is it also off?
Field bet is a one roll bet it’s always working unless you pull it down
Thanks
I am going to try it
What this game needs is a 5 in the Field. I’d own the casino in a week🎲🎲
I do not understand hop bets and in Arizona it's now electronic craps with real dice.
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so only do this if you're not the shooter so you don't have to play the pass?
You could do as the shooter as well, would just need to also make a pass or don’t pass bet.
I am new to craps, can you please tell me what is the half you are saying I am not getting that. You said that 10$ we put on half, what that means?
Hmm, can you share a time stamp for that?
@@ColorUp 5.32
I JUST like the 2 rolls for at LEAST $50 PER person possibility with NO additional $44 action until I get the chance to shoot the dice because MOST people SUCK and CANNOT roll MORE than 3-4 times MAX before they 7-out!
Mathematical probability says the avg roll lasts 8.5 rolls, so yes, many players will only roll 3-4 times before 7
Ouch but as you said at the start playing a third of your bank roll is fraught with danger
Yep, if your going to risk $165 I think you really should have at least $1600 to weather any storm
Systems are great but you are still depending on LUCK. Learn how to control the dice and bet only on your own throws.
true, all strategies depend on luck to win. It would be great if you could control the dice, that would be only way to beat the game long term.
So im thinking I may try this next time I play but at half the cost for a $5 table
same here
Why not go $152 across ($30 on 6&8, $25 on 5&9, $20 buy on 4&10) and a $8 horn bet? Risk $160 and make more than $25 on almost all the dice combos.
I think I'm with you on this. Also I think you're only risking $158. So you just reduced the risk $7 and if you hit 2 or 12 you can go inside immediately.
If you hit 4, 6, 8, or ten, or any of those combinations twice you'll have more than $50.
You could potentially be looking at a $30 profit after going $44 inside.
What is the difference in a 4-1 and a 1-4?
They both result in a 5 total but they are two different dice combinations. The best way to understand this is to have two different colored die. ie. Red and white. If red die lands on 1 first and then white lands on 4. That is one way to create Combo. Then reverse would be second way.
You only make the $25 if 6 or 8 comes up, if the field hits it's a net loss of $60 , correct? Am I missing something here?
$35 bet in field, if field rolls you win $35. If 5,6 or 8 rolls, you lose field but win enough from those bets to replace field bet and still have $25. the $60 place bet on 6/8 pays $70, the hop bet on 5 wins $70
@@ColorUp Right, but say you roll a 4, you win 35 on the field bet plus you have your original 35 field bet for a total of 70 , you lose the hop bet and the 6&8 for a loss of 130 resulting in a 60 net loss.
The 6 & 8 only loses on the roll of 7.
Never mind. Carry on🤣
I was gonna say something then I realized how dumb I sounded haha.
Hop bet went right over my head. What is this?
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Newbie here… why stop after 2 rolls? Why not ride it out?
Longer exposure to risk, but play as you like
When playing craps is it required that I have to roll the dice? Or can I skip my turn?
You can skip, just tell the stick person when it’s your turn
@@ColorUp thank you for the quick replay. Also, when you win the $25 with this strategy … is that $25 profit? I am new to craps and I find it beyond confusing. Haha
It is profit for that particular roll, but you still have $165 at risk, until all the bets are removed or decreased, you will lose money.
Might not want to start with this strategy as a beginner. I have a free beginner course on my website you may want to check out at colorup.club
@@ColorUp Thank you. I figured you can win that $25 and remove the rest of your bets and walk away. I guess not. lol
Yes, if you walked away after first roll it would be $25 profit. But not a good idea to risk $165 to win $25. You’d be better off just making a $25 bet on pass line, or any other number and hoping it rolls.
Do the same thing with 113 dollars less risk tte losing all 160 got it from mel at craps hawaii
?
So we risk 165 to win 55, and then put 44 of that profit at risk? Not enough reward for the risk. I could lay the 4 or 10 for 160, pay 4 dollars in vig and profit 76. Not only would I profit more but I'm a 2:1 favorite to win.
Sure, and if 4/10 rolls you lose …there is no right or wrong, the dice will decide
@@ColorUp 100%, if there was a strategy that could beat the game we wouldn't need all these great videos! Ultimately have to do what's most fun for you and represents your play style.
Yep, every player has different goals, quick win, low risk, time at table, big win etc.
Ok so what if u throw a 7 first roll
I follow Hawaii craps shooters also really like the strategy only thing I don't like about it if the point is an inside number better to throw a pass line bet down and do odds.
Place bets pay better unless line bet has 5x odds
@PJ Strong if you are playing the pass line, yes, it will always pay better to play the odds bet vs place bet equal amount on place bet. If not making a line bet, I can make a case the place bet is better until a certain amount.
I’ve seen that by others, but they tell me reason why is just so they can visually track bets better, and to mentally stay on top of their bets. If it’s helpful to them I guess the couple dollars they are losing out is worth it to them. 🤷♂️ Not a huge deal to me.
You can only help so much, I would suggest a player make a proper bet once or twice, but after that….? I teach the game to best of my ability. What players do with that advice I can’t control, that’s why it’s not a big deal to me. It’s their money. Prop bets are not ideal, but players love them
I’ve found most guys don’t like getting help even if paid better…I think it’s an ego thing?
So what would you do if your casino doesn't let you hop the 5's?
Place bet the 5, would cost $50 though
42 on 6/8 , 35 on 5, 25 on field.
5/6/8 win $24 per roll
3/4/9/10/11 win $25 per roll
2/12 win $50 or $75 (if triple on one of them).
Either way you are out in 2 rolls and out in 1 roll if it’s a 2/12
Why hopping the 5?
I actually like this system
Same. If you have a small bankroll it’s a great way to come up a little after one roll and then play more conservative after. I’ll talk a $50 profit all day
Hop the fives means you are looking for a hard five ?
There is no such thing as a hard 5. You would win $75 on either of the 2 combinations that equal 5
What does 44 inside mean?
Inside numbers are 5,6,8,8. Outside numbers are 4,10. So a bet if $44 inside is $44 total on the 5,6,8,9. Or $10,$12,$12,$10. With $12 being the proper bet for 6/8
Wish you would have counted the final bankroll
I forgot to count it on camera, but the numbers are on screen
@@ColorUp oh Thank You, I missed that
there def is an east coast tax. i have never seen a $10 craps table.
Not too fond of this one. It's a lot of up-front risk for the opportunity to chip away a little bit with $44 inside. Rolling a seven before you get your two quarters is devastating. Seems like you would be better off just starting off with $44 inside out of your bankroll.
Or you could bet 110 inside. Hit one number and go to 44. Less money and hits but no field option.
I kinda feel the same way, although the excitement of the 2 rolls and playing with House money is fun.
So why not just keep running the system instead of dropping to $44 across? I get it won’t be as exciting but winning money in itself is exciting. 😬
Just to mitigate risk, but if you can afford $160 go for it
@@ColorUp you’re right. I wasn’t thinking clearly. 🤦♂️. I forgot about the $165 in play every roll. Been a long first day of football season. Keep up the great work.
Why not hop the 5,6,and 8?
I suppose you could.