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  • @BeybladeGeeks
    @BeybladeGeeks  ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Who else feels a bit snaked with the string launcher situation? 😂WHICH PRODUCTS WILL YOU BUY FIRST?! Are you going to preorder EVERYTHING that will be launching in July or just a couple? Remember that this is the beginning of the new series, so there isn't a ton of variation in parts YET. Some of these Boosters will be repetitive, but it won't take long for everyone to build up a huge collection of parts.

    • @Bey_Dreamer
      @Bey_Dreamer ปีที่แล้ว

      Super LIT! Can’t wait for Beyblade X

    • @ArmanFlame1
      @ArmanFlame1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      July is my birthday month so I’ll definitely be picking these out

    • @James_D.
      @James_D. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I‘ll wait for their evolutions and hopefully I will be able to buy them at my local shop if TT does go global.

    • @ArmanFlame1
      @ArmanFlame1 ปีที่แล้ว

      My birthday is 4 days after it’s release

    • @GunnersCorner017
      @GunnersCorner017 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will buy it all (except the standalone stadium)

  • @rangeless
    @rangeless ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I like simplistic designs... It makes it even more impactful for when the Beyblades inevitably break and "evolve" further (insert crazy gimmick here).

    • @ElonTheMusk
      @ElonTheMusk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Imagine if we could change the gear part of the bit, make it have more/less teeth which determines how fast or slow your bey will go when it catches onto the ridge of the stadium. That’d be pretty sick customisation if you ask me..

    • @Darklordthe1st
      @Darklordthe1st ปีที่แล้ว

      yeahh I was thinking about that. Since this is basically the pre-dual layers of this gen. Imagine what well have in say the 'BU' of beyblade X!

    • @darkzmith3732
      @darkzmith3732 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s what I was thinking , what if the pre release and like the first few episodes is with these “basic designs” then alittle later on evolve

  • @callmeandoru2627
    @callmeandoru2627 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's a bit strange that they are making the ball tip the stamina tip, and the needle tip the defense tip. But given how wonky stamina and defense drivers have been in the latter stages of Beyblade Burst, I guess it makes sense that they change the "theory" around a bit.

  • @jasongarland2282
    @jasongarland2282 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I enjoyed Burst at the beginning and middle when the beys did burst (even too easy at times). Towards the end, it became more about spin steel and surver finish.

    • @ahtayudhani4694
      @ahtayudhani4694 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont forget the LAD

    • @ohmaplaymaker
      @ohmaplaymaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed how Takara completely reversed the meta with Beyblade X. Like, for now you can't use the same combo-types as the Burst Meta

  • @RezWabikijik
    @RezWabikijik ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As hyped as I am... I really hope that this is just the pre dual layer releases

  • @superfrubblez6123
    @superfrubblez6123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the biggest thing i want to see is more complex bits. Performance tips in metal fight were cool but they were able to explore way more options with drivers. Stuff like final drive, delta drive, and bearing drive were only done in metal fight by combining the spin track and tip while burst had reboot, zeta, and bearing as regular drivers. And when burst combined the disk and driver you got even more interesting gimmicks like Hybrid and Shot.

  • @exocolt15
    @exocolt15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely a bit simplistic but a ton of room for growth and lots of potential! Looking forward to seeing what comes next

  • @ZER02117
    @ZER02117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can see people hating on these new beys because of how simple they look like my friend said he didn't like it but I told him to give them a chance cuz we gotta remember this a new generation starting ya know

  • @dearcath
    @dearcath ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The anime is supposed to start this fall. So it's safe to say these products are the equivalent of season 1 stuff from beyblade burst because in the anime they'll start off with using these beys. Which explains why the very first releases for beyblade X are already a little gimmicky.

  • @IsagiHasAnEgo
    @IsagiHasAnEgo ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I am gonna miss beyblade burst so much 😭

    • @eymenthug
      @eymenthug ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ok

    • @Raptorlord241
      @Raptorlord241 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      U can still get the products

    • @IsagiHasAnEgo
      @IsagiHasAnEgo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I know I meant the anime

    • @purkle200
      @purkle200 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope there's an art style change. I liked burst but too many of the main characters acted too much alike minus Aiga, Drum, and Valt

    • @spicy_banana_mango9356
      @spicy_banana_mango9356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

  • @LostxArmy
    @LostxArmy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ill only miss the god series tbh. This seems more fun and tt coming to the U.S next year makes it so much better.

  • @MatchasDen
    @MatchasDen ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Reminder that Burst didn't have the string launcher individually released at launch either. The string launcher didn't get released on it's own until September, and I suspect it will be the same here.

  • @RMC365
    @RMC365 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    new gen gon be hype, cant wait for the release!

  • @PersonaBeys
    @PersonaBeys ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm actually vary excited for this new generation it seems very funny and interesting

  • @packman3979
    @packman3979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m just glad metal is back

  • @chilzz...
    @chilzz... ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First and love your videos also I want all of the products

  • @qbdanan1
    @qbdanan1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The designs are actually really really dope!

  • @MysticLGD
    @MysticLGD ปีที่แล้ว

    this channel brings back memories

  • @tsukasa19
    @tsukasa19 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I actually really enjoy the designs of the first X beys as somebody who's openly dissed anything about Metal Saga. What I'm very curious about is how the bits are going to differentiate from one another down the line. Will TT bring back the rubber bottoms and free spinning plates, and how they'll affect battles and overall bey performance coupled with the gear system. How about changing the surface of the bit itself like a Spriggan or Alter Chronos.
    Overall I'm curious how they'll establish each new Beyblade in X will have its own identity.

  • @QV1117
    @QV1117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m liking this because it’s looking like lots of recoil

  • @TQo1
    @TQo1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the way the Beys look a lot.

  • @VMATORRE03_Pinoyeditor
    @VMATORRE03_Pinoyeditor ปีที่แล้ว

    When I see these beys I really love it because of the metal on the layer and the simple design it's bring back memories on the og metal beys :)

  • @Liliana_the_ghost_cat
    @Liliana_the_ghost_cat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:00 I think it's important to point out that the pre-anime dragoons were right spin and that left spins are still special in that framework because only the main character gets them (until later of course). So not realy a fair argument.

  • @abelgijsholtzer2252
    @abelgijsholtzer2252 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The new beys are like a combination between beyblade bust and beyblade metal fusion

    • @portiac6097
      @portiac6097 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should have said a fusion between BEYBLADE burst and metal fusion

    • @portiac6097
      @portiac6097 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s BEYBLADE burst fusion

    • @daboi6509
      @daboi6509 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@portiac6097 chill bro he just didn't capitalize them what is the big deal

    • @ArcticDrought
      @ArcticDrought ปีที่แล้ว

      And also those Chinese beyblade like "battle tops" 😷

  • @AgentWebs
    @AgentWebs ปีที่แล้ว

    I preordered the stadium and four starters. I cam't wait to get in on this generation from the start

  • @neiordarastrix9692
    @neiordarastrix9692 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can’t wait to get the bey pass as well as the 3 pack cause they all look so cool

  • @shadowblade8717
    @shadowblade8717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the red Wizard the most tbh probs gonna get that and the dragon starter for the launcher

  • @terakoinfinity9523
    @terakoinfinity9523 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I'm gonna miss burst, but then again i also missed mfb when burst dropped and burst eventually grew on me when choz came out.
    So I'm pretty excited for this new series and bey line up. I'm also old enough to have a job and my own money so I'm definitely gonna buy my own beyblades. Hopefully they have a King/Aiga like character cause they always end up being my favourite

  • @kabeybladex
    @kabeybladex ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll buy Knight Shield first!

  • @maxiumite
    @maxiumite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Burst, but I'm very excited for new Beyblade

  • @Dee-vn2ng
    @Dee-vn2ng ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos so much😁😁

  • @adamatif288
    @adamatif288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to get Dransword first.

  • @sethmiller6795
    @sethmiller6795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:03 notice that dransword is the ONLY one to not get a recolor? Found it interesting idk

  • @supertom2271
    @supertom2271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The black launcher grip is my favourite

  • @goodsamaritan9003
    @goodsamaritan9003 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you change the angle you are facing, I’ve been bothered by the way you guys sit for a while.
    Amazing content btw!

  • @AuraFxs
    @AuraFxs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my wallet better pray for better days…

  • @gerardsaintosirisch
    @gerardsaintosirisch ปีที่แล้ว

    3:59 the first dragoon (ultimate dragoon) is a right spin bey also. we didnt get left spin bey until dragoon s came out a year later

  • @KindaAlone
    @KindaAlone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The speed of the Beyblade Generation X bey damn I can't express in words and I like Hellsscythe bey
    Edit:- Can you do Marathon battle on Aiga vs Shu, I want to see that because in Anime Aiger didn't battle with Shu

  • @crazygalaxy231
    @crazygalaxy231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont know if TT has any presence at AX, but if they do, it'd be kinda sick if they brought some units over to sell pre-official launch since they are close to one another. Whats the best way to go about getting beys overseas? Used to use Plamoya (RIP) during the Metal fusion saga but they went under. Amazon JP?

  • @knoxianpanda
    @knoxianpanda ปีที่แล้ว

    BX-07 & BX-08 Pre-Ordered 🔥

  • @ruvimsemenyuk8224
    @ruvimsemenyuk8224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What possessed them to give a stamina type a ball tip and
    The defense type needle lol

  • @leogaming1107
    @leogaming1107 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so hyped for Gen X! But I have a question geeks. Will they stop making the DB beys??
    Because I haven't collected them all yet, and I want to collect them all. Please answer this if you can. Thank you ❤

  • @GunnersCorner017
    @GunnersCorner017 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I already love this gen. I grew up with mfb and it took a while for burst to grow on me, so I'm excited to (once again) be the only one of my friends to be into beyblade

    • @terakoinfinity9523
      @terakoinfinity9523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah i grew up on mfb and those times I even watched plastic gen on TH-cam. When burst dropped it took until cho-z for it to really grow on me (Aiga still my favourite character). Probably cause him and achilles remind me of king and variaries (my favourite mfb character and bey).

  • @tikateeqa4825
    @tikateeqa4825 ปีที่แล้ว

    I noticed the colour themed, blue and red, was carried ever since the first gen bey (dragoon and dranzer)

  • @ClaytonMathisVO
    @ClaytonMathisVO ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So excited! And the return of metal on metal contact is enough to actually get me invested in the system. Burst, at least here in the states didn't grab me like metal fight did, and the fact that Hasbro and TT parts weren't interchangeable was another reason. It's a new starting point for me as a fan of Beyblade for over a decade, and I can't wait to see how It is with Hasbro varients! (please be good)

  • @BluePenguin676Official
    @BluePenguin676Official ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would first buy the starter set then the rest of the beys :) but does the starter set come with a beyblade tho?

    • @CameronBW2000
      @CameronBW2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're talking about the start dash set, then yes it does

    • @BluePenguin676Official
      @BluePenguin676Official ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronBW2000 ok just wanted to know thank you

  • @brintinn9950
    @brintinn9950 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 4-60T part reminds me of megaro arms attack ring or spin dragoon from the first plastic gen

  • @Benjaminjquayle
    @Benjaminjquayle ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The launchers and the stadium look great! But, the design of the Beys is a little upsetting to me... don't get me wrong, I'M STILL BUYING THEM FOR MY CHANNEL!!!😂😵‍💫💪

  • @atif3567
    @atif3567 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big fan broo from india

  • @recmadness
    @recmadness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh nice

  • @LeafVR192
    @LeafVR192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am in the 1000 views on this video 🎉

  • @wolvieinactive
    @wolvieinactive ปีที่แล้ว

    legit get HMS vibes with these beys

  • @spicy_banana_mango9356
    @spicy_banana_mango9356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hellsythe looking clean also kightshield looks dope

  • @Animesrk
    @Animesrk ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video geeks

  • @supertom2271
    @supertom2271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm waiting for the next system of Beyblade x to see how it goes because traditionally the anime starts withe the second system wile the first system were in the manga

  • @marcynados
    @marcynados ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every American website selling beyblade x products charging 110 dollars for the start dash set

  • @kaminarikurenai3118
    @kaminarikurenai3118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely can’t wait, I’m stuck between getting all starters and a stadium, or the starter set and the other three starters, but 100% excited

  • @flitzerios
    @flitzerios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so cool

  • @jonathanvo7991
    @jonathanvo7991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you excited for Summer?

  • @VoidPaul97
    @VoidPaul97 ปีที่แล้ว

    As long as I can make decent Balance Beys I'll be ok with this gen.
    And with decent, I mean dual-spin, height and mode change gimmicks. In Burst those gave Balance Type Beys that strategy and fun touch I always liked.

  • @Thecollector12345
    @Thecollector12345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ik this is a beyblade x video but i would love to see a few more beyblade burst all antagonists beyblade marathon and a all attack type beyblade battle just a suggest

  • @kylebrouwn6768
    @kylebrouwn6768 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With how hard it became to burst beyblades in ladder seasons like GT and onward, I kinda got used to it not really being a gimmick. Now it's back and I'm not so stoked about it 😅 hopefully takara tomy doesn't make beyblades unburstable for 2 burst series in a row.

  • @petergereige2166
    @petergereige2166 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really love how tt is making these beys look with there sleek and smooth designs it had me goisbumps just looking at the beys. I also really like the battles it definitely feels like an anime battle with their explosive hits.

  • @ghozt8658
    @ghozt8658 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m pretty sure the guy with the dragon ornament in his hair got a left spin bey.all the first left spin beys are dragons

  • @supergodblader1031
    @supergodblader1031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, is it a GLOBAL LAUNCH ON JULY 15 or only in Japan????? Pls REPLY ❤

    • @Lyte-X
      @Lyte-X ปีที่แล้ว

      Only in Japan

    • @CameronBW2000
      @CameronBW2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The initial release is in Japan. No word on a global release yet

    • @ynw.aeztro
      @ynw.aeztro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronBW2000 global release is by the end of 2023 I think

    • @CameronBW2000
      @CameronBW2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ynw.aeztro From what I heard from Zankye, the global release of Beyblade X is set for next year

    • @ynw.aeztro
      @ynw.aeztro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronBW2000 it was either end of 2023 fiscal year or 2024 fiscal year I forgot

  • @galacticguard6727
    @galacticguard6727 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pegasus and Valkary are both blue and attack, Rock Leo and Cerbais are green and defense, Sagittarius and Rockivor are yellow and stamina, and Bull/Dark Bull, Sprigain, and Achilles are red and balance. Seems red is balance, blue is attack, green is defense, and yellow is stamina.

  • @KennyOmegaTBBM
    @KennyOmegaTBBM ปีที่แล้ว

    I got BX-01 through BX-04, BX-07 and BX-11.

  • @Marco72388
    @Marco72388 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, I have a question. I bought the Beyblade Xiphoid Xcalibur B-200 from Ebay, and it came from Hong Kong costing 47 euros. However, it has a third symbol next to the Takara Tomy logo and the age rating on the top right, namely a QR code that leads to an Asia Takara Tomy TH-cam page. There was no third symbol on the eBay listing image, and none of the unboxing videos on TH-cam for this Beyblade show a third symbol. Could this mean it's fake?

    • @-The1478-
      @-The1478- ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can spin it, you can win with it. Or just have it as decorative. Doesn’t matter

  • @shadownationyt
    @shadownationyt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beyblade evolution Remember genesis valtryek burst valkyrie old times😊

  • @hongyihu6940
    @hongyihu6940 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you go into the beyblade x series yet, I have a question. Can you put on the chassie from brave valkyire onto ultimate valkyire? Please answer my question.

  • @kendofoxPlanet
    @kendofoxPlanet ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Guys always remember this is the season 1 of the new gen... everything started as a mini version with its simplicity but as the anime goes by the design becoming big stronger and got a lot of cool stuff additional...
    Ex:
    Dragoon Storm - Dragoon GT and HMS
    Galaxy Pegasus - Cosmic Pegasus
    Victory Valtryek - Ultimate Valtryek

    • @muhammedbadjie1960
      @muhammedbadjie1960 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the first gen beys that don't get used in the anime are usually super basic with their designs
      ex:
      Ultimate Dragoon
      Pegasis 105F
      Valkyrie wing accel

  • @Hohzaye
    @Hohzaye ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do we cop or preorder?

  • @denmarks.bilolo8421
    @denmarks.bilolo8421 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's like a mix of beyblade shogun and burst and kinda like it

  • @J86237
    @J86237 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the new designs but the game is just so expensive to get into. Stadium and launchers and a double playset of all the new beys + shipping + currency conversion.

  • @spirospcm
    @spirospcm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super...

  • @Niko_69-4
    @Niko_69-4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Burst is my favorite gen but it’s time to move on to the next generation. Beyblade X has the best parts of all series combined so I guess the X = sort of crossover with the Beyblade generations.
    This is how I think everything will go:
    They will have burst gimmicks
    They will have metal saga designs
    They will have plastic gen anime lore

  • @camouflageentertainment9651
    @camouflageentertainment9651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its release is 2 days before my birthday

  • @supergodblader1031
    @supergodblader1031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will Beyblade X be released in INDIA also ? Pls REPLY ❤

  • @Pinkguy6999
    @Pinkguy6999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shield isn’t a weapon
    Captain America: am i a joke to you

    • @ynw.aeztro
      @ynw.aeztro ปีที่แล้ว

      me wondering how drake is a weapon

  • @infernape100
    @infernape100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my list of what I got ordered
    4 starters
    2 grips
    bey battle pass
    DX starter
    3 on 3
    Aka...I am gonna have duplicates of my blades, but different color. Means 4 v 4 with a 1v1 on each, original vs recolor

  • @otakukai3903
    @otakukai3903 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just me but since I didn’t buy any beys until I saw the anime maybe I’ll do that again or just wait for the translated manga.

  • @exocolt15
    @exocolt15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeez they want 30$ each for a starter in the states

  • @TjAmagos-hu7sd
    @TjAmagos-hu7sd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys i have a question what is bigger sparking beys or db beys?

  • @goldexperiencerequiem5171
    @goldexperiencerequiem5171 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro the yellow one looks like saggitario the green one kerbeus or idk the blue one valkyrie

  • @klown_king1219
    @klown_king1219 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the new battle pass is usable throughout the whole gen and not like the bey logger where it died after a couple of years.

  • @sheejajose.p522
    @sheejajose.p522 ปีที่แล้ว

    guys dragoon v's and brave valtry's driver are the same kind just check out

  • @Keenenistoogood
    @Keenenistoogood ปีที่แล้ว

    What shop do u buy ur beys from becuase I can’t find and shop that’s legit so can u tell me pls

  • @rehanahmed3871
    @rehanahmed3871 ปีที่แล้ว

    This four beyblade literally match the original beyblades

  • @leech7412
    @leech7412 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:08 naofumi cries

  • @josiahwoods5956
    @josiahwoods5956 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey beybladegeeks cool

  • @OkIGotRealNowWhat
    @OkIGotRealNowWhat ปีที่แล้ว

    they say convert over to Beyblade x life like its a religion, if it was i would definitely join it.

  • @kohinoorstudioindia
    @kohinoorstudioindia ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Beyblade season 4 is coming

  • @1VINCIBLE987
    @1VINCIBLE987 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let’s wait and see how hasbro messes this one up!

  • @gulfcoastbeyblades2192
    @gulfcoastbeyblades2192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top I just find so much similarities between the speed storm design Hasbro did and what they're doing now with beyblade X. So much of this is gonna be unbalanced they are going to topple over very quickly I understand they're going for high speed epic attack style battles but everything that I've seen so far Seems to be a by product of out of control speed as well as the 3 point knockout is going to be really frustrating. You're gonna see a lot of battles ended prematurely just because of one lucky hit. I also wonder About how well the special ridges Are going to hold up to so much battling. I know this is Gen. One so there's probably gonna be a lot of adaptations and changes but I'm just concerned that a lot of these battles are gonna be based out of pure luck and just ripping hard

  • @packman3979
    @packman3979 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I spot a midfake Takara Tomy bey

  • @Witchettygrub21
    @Witchettygrub21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @BeybladeGeeks [ !!!READ THIS!!! ] I just don't think I like the size and design if these new beys, the new bit idea with the gears is way to gimmicky to go through the whole generation. I'm sorry but ever since Beyblade Burst came out I was in love with it, a very obvious level of improvement in playstyle versatility and I think we can all agree that It grew to be something beautiful form something so small with high simplicity and virtually no gimmicks. Beyblade Burst for me and many others was the best and possibly will stay that way.

  • @Kuza__84
    @Kuza__84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are we leaving the ogs? 😢

  • @petergereige2166
    @petergereige2166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BEANS

  • @ArcticDrought
    @ArcticDrought ปีที่แล้ว

    The motif could have been better

  • @JayMehKay
    @JayMehKay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My personal Stupid and crazy headcanon but BeybladeX is getting 7 seasons/generations because the female protagonist “Nanairo Multi” has “Nana” in her name, which can mean 7 in Japanese, and we already know she has multiple beyblades. Not too outrageous to think that we’d get 7 generations/seasons, or at least her getting 7 beyblades total at some point. Who knows.