care to give us an update? Did/Do you see any of the quail around still? Have you done anymore releases? Just curious as I have been thinking about starting to release a portion of mine. I read somewhere on the statistics of how many will make it past the first winter and it is just sad at 10-20% of released birds. Just wandering what your luck was with it all?
***** we had an extremely hard winter in this part of the country. Feared that our small group of quail may have not made it. But earlier in spring as we were working on our plot, we heard the calls first hand. We also had 2 neighbors - half mile in two separate directions - both saw our quail. How do we know they are our birds? There hasn't been a wild bird in the area in 30 years and we're the only people in the area raising birds. So even with the brutal winter, we had survivors. The next question is can pen raised birds successfully nest. The existing data says they are less likely to stay on nests. But we don't let existing data discourage us. We believe that if the Bobwhite is ever to return to some of it's historical range, people will need to find a way to reintroduce pen raised birds into suitable habitat. We continue to work on this equation. This year we tripled the number of birds we are raising, exponentially increased the size of the pen and plan to release to multiple areas of good habitat on and around our property. Then we plan to distribute information to the neighbors along with an email address where they will be able to report sightings. We thing this pseudo wild way of raising quail shows promise, allowing birds to experience weather, predators, food foraging.... without the loss of numbers.
They travelled along the creek corridor, made it as far as a couple miles away, neighbor saw them at his pond. If we would've done on a larger scale, more birds and bigger area of cover, then fairly certain we'd have a successful population. Working on doing another version, have more land to work with now.
Any new information on these birds raised in captivity nesting in the wild? I am wondering because I want to try and get some started in an area where there currently isn't any wild populations?
We have verified via calls and sightings that our birds released this last year survived the winter. Have photos in early spring of a couple even paired up. They've migrated to areas with the best cover up to 1.5 miles from the pen. Have not been able to verify successful nesting yet. Spring cover is pretty thick, but we're still hoping to get eyes on some chicks.
You are on the right track by improving habitat, but raised quail will not make it. It is not because of genetics, but because they learn behavior from their parents. They are having success in Arizona with the critically endanger masked bobwhite by putting a wild male with the chicks as surrogate father. Also, in Texas trapping wild birds and moving them has proven to work. Everything eats them and they only have a split second to react to predators. They just don't have the learned behavior.
Raised quail can make it. I've been contacted by viewers who released banded quail, only to harvest those Bobwhite 3 years later. If you raise them in a "pseudo-wild" fashion, these birds can learn. And birds that we released were seen 2.5 years after, in an area where there are no longer wild birds (photographic proof, 100 yards from one of our release sites).
well glad to hear that at least some made it. I will be doing this next year and I am going to be using a Johnny House. Have you ever looked into using/trying one of these. I purchased some building plans for one. I liked how once they are released they have the option to come back (over and over again) until they feel/are brave enough to make it on there on. If you get a chance to throw up another video of the new structure and birds I would definitely be interested in checking it out.
+Rem C I haven't seen plans for a Johnny House but will look up. Our birds were in an open flight pen with some small covered shelters, not much. We wanted them to get accustomed to the elements.
We've heard a lot about what won't work in this country. Interesting to think that there are now wild pheasant in nearly every state in the country - believe that started with 8 breeding pairs imported from Oregon to China.
Just wonderful, been searching for "quails eggs for sale" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (search on google ) ? It is a great exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got excellent results with it.
Thanks for asking, Justin. Been a number of years since this initial release. We learned A LOT! Birds were seen in the area by neighbors for over 2 years following. Since no wild populations exist, we're quite sure they were our quail. It just came down to density. In order to establish a breeding population and true "wild" generation, we needed to release enough birds on the landscape so that they could find one another and nest in the spring. Our birds traveled in this creek corridor way farther than we ever expected -- up to 1.5 miles from release site. If we had corporate backing or a research partner with deeper pockets than our own, we feel like we could prove that pseudo-wild pen-raised birds can re-establish a wild, breeding population. (It's really not too far fetched when you consider the story of Ring-necked pheasant in this country.)
Fly quaily,fly up,up 2 da sky.O.k.so, it's a Robin not a quail What can I say, I kove quails - alright.🙂😘❤️🐦🐦🐦🐦
care to give us an update? Did/Do you see any of the quail around still? Have you done anymore releases? Just curious as I have been thinking about starting to release a portion of mine. I read somewhere on the statistics of how many will make it past the first winter and it is just sad at 10-20% of released birds. Just wandering what your luck was with it all?
***** we had an extremely hard winter in this part of the country. Feared that our small group of quail may have not made it. But earlier in spring as we were working on our plot, we heard the calls first hand. We also had 2 neighbors - half mile in two separate directions - both saw our quail. How do we know they are our birds? There hasn't been a wild bird in the area in 30 years and we're the only people in the area raising birds.
So even with the brutal winter, we had survivors. The next question is can pen raised birds successfully nest. The existing data says they are less likely to stay on nests. But we don't let existing data discourage us.
We believe that if the Bobwhite is ever to return to some of it's historical range, people will need to find a way to reintroduce pen raised birds into suitable habitat. We continue to work on this equation.
This year we tripled the number of birds we are raising, exponentially increased the size of the pen and plan to release to multiple areas of good habitat on and around our property.
Then we plan to distribute information to the neighbors along with an email address where they will be able to report sightings.
We thing this pseudo wild way of raising quail shows promise, allowing birds to experience weather, predators, food foraging.... without the loss of numbers.
Won’t work.
You're wrong. It actually could work and has worked for others who have done similar on more acreage. Thanks for watching.
Any update on if they stuck around? I’m wanting to do thsi
They travelled along the creek corridor, made it as far as a couple miles away, neighbor saw them at his pond. If we would've done on a larger scale, more birds and bigger area of cover, then fairly certain we'd have a successful population. Working on doing another version, have more land to work with now.
I can't wait to move to SC. I am gonna hunt bobwhites.
Save a Human Life and Quail, Neuter, or - euphemistically - don't own one single Cat; cats kill quail, quail eat ticks, ticks begats lyme disease....
Any new information on these birds raised in captivity nesting in the wild? I am wondering because I want to try and get some started in an area where there currently isn't any wild populations?
We have verified via calls and sightings that our birds released this last year survived the winter. Have photos in early spring of a couple even paired up. They've migrated to areas with the best cover up to 1.5 miles from the pen. Have not been able to verify successful nesting yet. Spring cover is pretty thick, but we're still hoping to get eyes on some chicks.
Did they come back to sleep in or near the pen the first few days/weeks after release ?
No, they bailed out to the thickest nearby cover. There was no sign of returning to the pen. Believe they really liked their freedom.
UltimateUpland Damm....well that didn't go over too well. I recently took out two of my chukar partridge to free range with the chickens....bye-bye ((
You are on the right track by improving habitat, but raised quail will not make it. It is not because of genetics, but because they learn behavior from their parents. They are having success in Arizona with the critically endanger masked bobwhite by putting a wild male with the chicks as surrogate father. Also, in Texas trapping wild birds and moving them has proven to work. Everything eats them and they only have a split second to react to predators. They just don't have the learned behavior.
Raised quail can make it. I've been contacted by viewers who released banded quail, only to harvest those Bobwhite 3 years later. If you raise them in a "pseudo-wild" fashion, these birds can learn. And birds that we released were seen 2.5 years after, in an area where there are no longer wild birds (photographic proof, 100 yards from one of our release sites).
I want to introduce some bobwhite quails to a lot of land.Do you have any advice?
well glad to hear that at least some made it. I will be doing this next year and I am going to be using a Johnny House. Have you ever looked into using/trying one of these. I purchased some building plans for one. I liked how once they are released they have the option to come back (over and over again) until they feel/are brave enough to make it on there on. If you get a chance to throw up another video of the new structure and birds I would definitely be interested in checking it out.
+Rem C I haven't seen plans for a Johnny House but will look up. Our birds were in an open flight pen with some small covered shelters, not much. We wanted them to get accustomed to the elements.
Genetics? Too far from F-1s, won’t work. Admire your efforts though.
We've heard a lot about what won't work in this country. Interesting to think that there are now wild pheasant in nearly every state in the country - believe that started with 8 breeding pairs imported from Oregon to China.
Just wonderful, been searching for "quails eggs for sale" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (search on google ) ? It is a great exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my colleague got excellent results with it.
Any update on status of quail release?
Thanks for asking, Justin. Been a number of years since this initial release. We learned A LOT! Birds were seen in the area by neighbors for over 2 years following. Since no wild populations exist, we're quite sure they were our quail. It just came down to density. In order to establish a breeding population and true "wild" generation, we needed to release enough birds on the landscape so that they could find one another and nest in the spring. Our birds traveled in this creek corridor way farther than we ever expected -- up to 1.5 miles from release site. If we had corporate backing or a research partner with deeper pockets than our own, we feel like we could prove that pseudo-wild pen-raised birds can re-establish a wild, breeding population. (It's really not too far fetched when you consider the story of Ring-necked pheasant in this country.)
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Thanks for your concern.