Fun fact. Porco Rosso was originally made to be a more lighthearted movie but then the Yugoslav wars broke out and that led to studio Ghibli deciding to make a more somber adult movie.
He also abstained from mentioning Yugoslavia by name, which is mentioned in the manga, despite it being clear from the maps Marco lives in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
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@@Polo9794 Miyazaki: If you couldn't feel it from the film, that'll be better. I shouldn't have made the story take place in the Adriatic Sea in the first place. Many people think it took place in Italy, but Porco lives on the Croatian shoreline. Then it became the warfield by the civil war. I was just going to make a story you can just grin at (ufufu), but it became more complicated. Then, I had to read the modern history of Yugoslavia, but there isn't a consistent history book, and it was very difficult to make sense out of it. Gosh, I was careless. I always try to make a film uncomplicated, but somehow, it gets complicated. It was the same thing with Laputa. I thought I could make it more uncomplicated, but it's inevitable that my own various thoughts creep in, and make things complicated. When I finish making up the story, somehow, I find I made the story complicated. Certainly, I made Porco as I wanted. I couldn't do it in any other way. But I also feel kind of humiliated for changing the plan in the middle, not making it as planned from the start. You know, I was going to make a forty-five minutes movie, and it became more than twice as long. -laughs- Here's a quote from an interview, you can easily find it online
If we look at Miyazaki's work, pigs always represent the loss of hope, illusion, or esence. In Spirited away, the adults turn into pigs. In Princess Mononoke, its the boar spirits that lose faith in humanity and fall into corruption. In this movie, Porco has also lost his esence, and in the end, he regains it, which is why they say they never saw his face again: He gained his esence back, and was no longer a pig.
I think we can perhaps differentiate between the greedy pigs and Porco and the noble wild boars of the forests of yore. Perhaps there is a link, but the corruption in Mononokehime comes from outside and is not exemplified by being porcine. I think.
@@agin1519 there is of course a difference between both, but they still carry a significant similarity in the motives they play. They are creatures Who had but Lost faith, in a general sense. The wild boars lost their faith in the ways of the forest and gave themselves to corruption, just like porco lost his faith on humanity and the revolution
Furthermore pigs are common antagonists notably in the Zelda series and Mother 3. Pigs look more like humans than any other animal as primates are people in fursuits/animatronics which renders evolution laughable. Mehr Wahrheit1 has a great video on thalidomide and how pigs are actually boar/human hybrids. Given all of the fake animals we're exposed to I believe her research here. Miyazaki is privy to knowledge regular people are not by virtue of his status on the world stage and being an obvious freemartin. He likely knows the true origin of pigs as boar/human artificial creations and fleshes out much of the darker truths about this world through the vehicle of this highly modified creature. Sick world we live in
i always saw rosso as story about survivors guilt. i believed that the reason porco became a pig was because he didn’t view himself as a human of value due to losing so many of his comrades and friends in ww1. though i think i agree with your understanding of the film more.
Survivor's guilt is absolutely a part of it- it's something many soldiers have to deal with as part of their PTSD. His guilt and his trauma from the war both lead him to the same place- that is, losing his humanity and abandoning connections to the people around him. Personally, I had always seen it as him taking the step more voluntarily- he didn't _lose_ his humanity, he got rid of it because of the things he had seen humanity do in the war. But I don't think that's necessarily any more correct than other ways to interpret things in the movie- Miyazaki, much like David Lynch, is much more concerned with the _feeling_ of a film and what it evokes than he is about any specific details of plot or story. Porco is a pig because being a pig is what suits the film's purposes, and no particular explanation for the exact reasons is necessary.
Hands down, my favorite Ghibli film. It encompasses all aspects that makes a Miyazaki film. Anti war, freedom/adventure, self determination, and those Skyscapes.
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It's even more haunting considering the Japanese concept artists had to flee Croatia (the art was based on the Adriatic coast of Croatia) because of a new war in 1991.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Are you implying that these Japanese artists were somehow partially responsible for previous war crimes? Otherwise, I dont understand what the point youre trying to make is??
@@abxy2257 Just ignore these guys, they are the ‘learn from history enthusiast’ who only learn about history of them getting attacked, and forget when they are the attacking. Or simply only remember when they are the good and completely ignore all their bad going’s. As if there is a single country in the entire world that is purely sinless(?) and have never committed a war crime.
Just a little extra tid bit for people who are curious, the song Gina sings in her night club is called "Le Temps Des Cerises" (The Time of Cherries) which is a bittersweet song about the fall of the Paris Commune in 1871, specifically the semaine sanglante (bloody week) when the French army overran the commune with terrible bloodshed. Very much on point with the theme of failed revolution and the cruel reaction that follows it.
@@golDroger88 The communards weren't the stalinists or leninists of the 20th centruy, but actual marxist socialists fighting for a better life. Maybe read up on the Paris commune instead of spouting BS.
In Italy we celebrate the liberation from Fascism the 25th of april, and since Porco Rosso takes place in fascist Italy it easily became a must watch for many young boys and girls in this holiday. I don't know if you uploaded the video on purpose in this period but it's a welcomed surprise, great video as always and Buona Liberazione 🐷🌹
Funnily enough, Portugal also has a holiday in the 25th of April. The Carnation Revolution where the military rose up against the authoritarian regime. So yeah. 25th of April seems to be a popular date to fight fascism!
Easily one of Miyazaki's best. I love the risks he took with Porco Rosso. It has some of his vintage trademarks- curses, war, flying, etc.. but it does so many things you don't expect. You assume it will be about a man redeeming himself and overcoming a curse, but it skips all that and does so much more! The soundtrack is one of my favorites from Joe Hisiashi, and I often put it on to relax. So whimsical, and nostalgic... Makes me want to reminisce and ponder...
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After watching Porco Rosso when I was 11, I never bothered to give it another look to see the subtext and themes in every frame, nor did it come to my mind that Porco was a populist (Red Swine). Thank You Accented Cinema for giving us the this film analysis on themes of this Ghibli Classic.
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One detail that has always irked me: the blue-and-green flags seen in in 3:07 and elsewhere are entirely fictional and have nothing to do with the Fascist movement (or with Italy as a country) Given that the film is otherwise very straightforward in its historical setting and its political message, I've always wondered why they wouldn't use actual Fascist symbology in those scenes.
@@ArkadiBolschek Perhaps so as to not have fascist symbols in the movie. Also perhaps because the goal was to get us to see the fascism/authoritarianism around us, a thing we'd miss if we could put the symbols into a box marked "historical artifact."
@@p.strobus7569 Yet the air force planes pursuing Porco Rosso towards the end do have Fascist symbols on them. It's like they couldn't make up their mind whether they wanted to portray Fascist imagery or not (?)
@@ArkadiBolschek because you should have grasped the repeated theme by the end of the film, so there's not as much reason to hold as much pretense, if you'd paid attention or had a brain
I have ptsd from an armed conflict in my home country, were people raised against a faccist regime and were repressed with firearms. This video struck a chord deep with me. Im literally in tears. I watched Porco Rosso so many years ago, when I was a kid that I defintively didnt understand it. Now more than ever, having had to flee my country I can understand the true meaning of "better a pig than a faccist". Thanks you so much for this video.
@@canesvenatici4259 Venezuela, and what happened is a series or riots and protest against the government that lasted for over a year and were escalating to the point of happening nationwide. This happened amidst the worse economic crisis venezuela had ever experienced by far, with our money reaching zimbabwe levels were a single dollar was equivalent to billions of Bolívares. There was huge scarcity and the president had the audacity to reject an offer for humanitarian aid from the UN because "everything was fine". So the protest escalated to riots, they were happening on everywhere, from small towns in the rural parts of the country to all the big cities. And the government answered with brutal repression, eventually relying on sending the military to shoot people. I was a first aids volunteer, and had the place where I lived with my mom raided twice and I almost got shot. So I ended up packing my shit, as most of my friends did, and left to a better country with plans of bringing my family here eventually.
@@SilverAlex92I have some random questions that if inappropriate, you don't need to answer. Has this experience changed your opinion on if citizens have the right to own arms(arms NOT firearms)** for the purposes of defense against any threat foreign or domestic? I know you chose to leave the violence, so I'm thinking you personally wouldn't have chosen to purchase arms to defend yourself. That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government? **The reason why I and America's founding fathers say arms, is because we believe that citizens have the right to own the same weapons as any government. The right isn't limited to firearms
@@TheGrowlingAraknid In venezuela there were many legal open carry laws, and its country particularly lax in its gun control laws. The country doesn't faces mass shooters issues as you do, but rather the issue is that even a petty thief is packing a gun and crime groups own military grade weapons. In particular during those protest the government used citizen wielding guns as an excuse to allow the use if live ammunition to repress the riots. The sent the military wearing full tactical gear, including bullet proof vests, gas masks, and in some cases high grade weapons. There were reports of snipers used a couple of times. If everyone was armed and had the will to fight the govt to the end, the riots would have ended in a massacre. People with guns and zero real combat experience stand no chance against a full tactical team using tear gas, stun grenades, and live amunation. And on top of that the fact that some people DID bring guns, in the american style of fight for your country was the reason the repression went from police brutality to military using live ammo on your citizens. To answer this question "That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government?" Well, the thing is I did take that choice. And I concluded that well intended revolutionaries don't stand a chance against an organized military force that has full approval to use their entire arsenal. The image of revolutionaries storming the capitol and replacing the government, while noble as thought in your constitution, or in movies is a lie. It will only happen IF and ONLY IF the military itself decides not to shoot the people and let them reach the capitol/senate/white house.
@@SilverAlex92 I get that civilians can't typically fight governments but that's due to governments banning arms but not firearms. We are supposed to have nukes if we wanted, since we trust the government to have them. Yes they can kill us all, the point of fighting isn't to win by defeating them. The point is to force the government to concede, since the way they are directly paid is through our taxes. If they kill 100,000 tax payers who paid let's say 5 dollars a year, they now never get paid 500,000 dollars a year from them. After a certain amount of death, governments would have to concede. If not then they were planning on enslaving you anyways. Without a gun, how much resources would a government need to spend to realistically get any of us to comply? It can be done with a couple unarmed dudes, what are we gonna do? Punch mutiple guys and win? With arms, now what does it take? They are now risking losing a government agent, if they don't want to risk it, now they have to spent 100,000 dollars to drone strike one guy, a taxpayer, in a neighborhood. Which means now, if they cared, have to pay for the neighboring houses they destroyed. Now add 250,000-850,000 to the previous cost. If they don't pay, citizens lose their trust in said government and are less likely to support the more it happens. That's just if one dude is armed with a basic rifle, now what if he had mortar launcher or a stinger missile launcher? The cost increases. Granted this only works if the citizens are willing to die for their freedom. If the population is too she-dog to die for beliefs then ofc the government. But they are the ones who benefit of your fear. Would it ever benefit a slavemaster to kill any and all of his slaves? No, right? Who will work for him if they are dead? I get that death is scary and it's a personal choice if you'd rather live a humiliating slave life or fight demanding the government respect you. They used people having guns as the excuse? Would you say that it's vaild? Couldn't it rather be that the government will find any excuse to justify any action, considering it's the government? For example Israel routinely justifies killing dozens to 100's of Palestinians saying that because "they assaulted us with rocks!" That them taking over more and more Palestinian land is justified. I'd say that's akin to what your government was doing. Governments don't like violent protests. I ask this, Why SHOULD any government ever listen or care about what it's citizens want? we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, where with you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristrocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all? This was actually a quote from founding father Patrick Henry, said in a Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1788 Why did the protests happen in the first place? Over inflation? Did you guys blame the government for that? Or were they doing something extra to ?
The reason he turned into a pig is because he saw himself as a pig, in italy and other parts of the world being called a pig is a terrible insult, he saw himself as terrible because, unlike his friend, he survived the battle, not only that but he loved his deceased friend's widow, this is a metaphor, later on in the movie he returns human since he realizes that he wasn't a bad person after all. Love this movie also love the planes showned in it, i dunno, hydro planes have such a style and elegance that modern hydro planes cant even dream of
I also think it's in part because of what he mentioned with the 'red pig' being used for communists and socialists. The state sees him as a pig and as other people are the components of the larger machine of fascism, they do so too. Only those who know him as well as possible can look past what the state forces them to see and see him for what he is; just a man, separated from his political beliefs. One reason why he may have became a pig was because of what the state was telling everyone. More and more people see him as it until it is his identity. He is owned by his beliefs, and they make up what everyone sees of him on the surface. Only when you look deeper into his character and become more acquainted with him do people not see him as such. Curtis also notes Porco's 'transformation' back into a human. Curtis, as an American, would have been by nature deeply insulted by the very idea of fascism due to his belief of freedom and as such may have considered Porco to be part of this machine himself, having not acquainted himself with his good works over the years (such as saving the captured ship from terrorists). After the duel, however, Curtis sees Porco as just another man, as vulnerable as the other men around him. He is no different; he is just a human with different beliefs. Curtis realises this and so sees Porco for what he truly is. I also see this whole argument of the pig being just a veil used by the state to hide his true self from the people as being another reason why Ferrari sees Porco as something else. Ferrari watched Porco betray Italy for his own beliefs and yet seeing such an act of heroics performed by the man caused Ferrari never to adopt that vision of Porco as a pig. Porco may refer to himself as one solely because according to the state he is, but Ferrari is wiser, and understands who Porco is and what he stands for. That's probably a good reason why at the very end, Ferrari announces that the Air Force are on their way and for everyone to depart lest they be harmed. Ferrari doesn't want to harm these people because, much like Fio, and Curtis, he sees Porco and the others for what they are. Finally, I also wanted to note how the theme of animals constantly comes up. Well, less so animals but moreso humans looking like them. Porco's mechanic Mr. Piccolo and the Federated Pirates all have multiple things in common, the most notable of which are their distinct appearances. They're being shown as 'animals' for their beliefs. The Federated Pirates are being shown as animals because, much like in Porco's case, the state is concealing who he is and slandering his reputation as a man solely for his beliefs. Porco and the Pirates are two sides of the same law-breaking coin. Mr. Piccolo, on the other hand, is described as a 'mole' due to his appearance, but I believe this is because he's effectively an undercover individual. He's not publicly out in unison with Porco about his beliefs and anti-fascism; he actually operates in society just fine, but secretly, deep down, he's a 'mole', an undercover agent for Porco to get parts and pieces of his plane from. No one else but Porco makes this statement, so I believe that this is actually slightly more separate from the whole theory of Porco being shown as a pig by the fascist state; it's because only Porco sees Mr. Piccolo for what he truly is, that being a man AND a mole. He's both an undercover agent and a man and Porco doesn't treat Piccolo any different for it. No one else sees it but should they, they absolutely would treat him differently for it...they just haven't picked up on his subtle support of anti-fascist views yet.
To add a little bit more context to the rise of the fascist movement, Mussolini started organizing his "squadracce", most of the time groups of veterans of WWI, to fight the socialist and communist groups and was sponsored by landlords in the countryside and factory owners in the cities. This allowed him to expand and arm his personal militia. When he thought that he had gained enough power, he marched on the capital, occupying it. The high commanders of the Italian army wanted to disperse the invading force, but the king took a liking to the man and decided to appoint him as prime minister. Important to note: Mussolini did not take part in the march on Rome until he was sure that the army wasn't going to shoot at them
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Mussolini was given the position of PM before the Black Shirts marched on Rome. Mussolini did not lead a coup. He was chosen by the king. The "coup" was a PR move.
@@simonmagid4205are you kidding. AOC came out the other day came out and said Tucker Carlson should be regulated by the government. Next thing we know he has been fired.
@@bngr_bngr Newsflash: Carlson's boss, Rupert Murdoch, is not the government. He is hostile to and has no reason to follow supposed instructions from a Democratic member of Congress who had no power to remove Carlson. Try to rub two brain cells together.
As soon as you said “there’s one line from Porco Rosso” I immediately knew which one because it’s lived rent-free in my head since I was a kid too. I love this movie so much.
Porco Rosso is also a great favourite of mine. The one line that stuck with me, however, is: "A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig!" Or perhaps it's better translated as "just an ordinary pig", I don't know for sure. Either way, by itself it doesn't sound nice or especially empathetic. But it perfectly captures the melancholy of the film in the pivotal romantic scene in which it is spoken, and it also works as a sort of backdrop in the writing that goes against the "liberating" feeling of the soaring takeoffs and the highly emotional flying-scenes.
I would agree that "ordinary pig" is a better translation. The Japanese line is 飛ばねぇ豚はただの豚だ。Sayingただの豚 instead of just ただ豚 changes the nuance from "just a pig" to "just an ordinary pig" imo! I'm not a native speaker though
@@cedricletherisien4363 Much belated thanks for clarifying. I was relying on external translation souces for my original post, and it is always good to hear from someone more knowledgeable.
I dissagree with your take on why Porco keeps his distance from people, especially women, and avoids Gina's love. You say it's because he doesn't want to bring harm to them since he's targeted by the fascists. That would make sense if he had always been their target, but it's heavily implied that he's had this attitude since he came back from WW1 as a pig. I believe his issue isn't "only" about others, but about himself. He suffers from survivors guilt. He believes he should have died, ascended into the great stream with his dead commrades (and even his adversaries). He came back to life a changed man... in the most literal sense. His curse is blaming himself for surviving, and he sees himself, not a man anymore, but as a pig; as something lesser. Yes, he plays it cool, but he avoids anything that reminds him that he is, indeed, still Marco Pagot. Marco became Porco, and Porco fills his life with skill, adventure and solitude in the pursuit of forgetting. If it was by him, Gina should have gotten rid of the only picture of his human face long ago (it's actually most probable that he was the one who defaced it in the first place). So, yeah... I don't think Porco in protecting anyone here, but he is running away from his past and from himself. He is a man who learns to confront who he is and learns that he can actually be himself again, that he isn't bound to his past; that certain things are not under his controll and he's not to blame. His dissdain and antagonism to fascism actually come from his experience in the war and can be read as the first sign that he actually understands his own need to overcome the bloody mark it left on him. Fascists, especially these original ones, were obsessed with the narrative of the "stolen glory", of an idealized past, and of a lost war that was actually a promisse of grandeour. Porco knows those are lies; Porco knows how the military mindset manipulates young men into the hell of war. The paradox is that he still has to convince himself that he is also still hostage to the past and to war. Not by glorifying it, but by torturing himself about it.
To explain the extent fascists love the stolen Valor thing, there was literally an entire term for it: Vittoria Mutilata or “Mutilated Victory” It basically inspired their irredentism (for context irredentism is basically “I deserve more stuff, it’s my right to own this, and I will take it by any means.” After WW1 the Italians felt betrayed, which to be fair they actually were as their allies gave them Jack crap compared to what they were promised so the Italians weren’t hypocrites at least, but it defo reinforces the stolen Valor thing.
@@coolsceegaming6178 In Germany they built up a similar thing called "the legend of the backstabbing", where they blamed center and left politicians for their defeat. This lead into a period of escalating violence, political instability, and the rise of proto-fascist paramilitary groups called "Freikorps".
It's a little bit worrying that simply suggesting that fascism is bad can trigger people and cause such negative reactions. Or the seemingly defensive response to play whataboutism and try and tell us something else is totally worst.
Hyup... It's nothing but a bunch of handwringing to distract people from the fact that they're completely okay with the atrocities committed by fascist ideologies. Not that they themselves would truly be able to live in such a government, for how much they want one so badly.
A factor for the negative reaction is probably since fascism’s definition has been so muddied so much that it’s literally just used as a “slur” and is explained as “we wanna invade other countries and murder everyone except for ourselves” instead of being explained as being a form of ultranationalism
It's the only Ghibli I still watch in French ^^ Really disappointed that they changed the French dub of "Le Temps des Cerises" by the Japanese one in the DVD and on streaming services. Had to track down an VHS to get the original.
Even though i'm not a pig, this is one of my favorite ghibli movies. The beauty of Italy and Croatia, the time period and the freedom of adventure you experience with flying all resonate with me.
I love how Miyazaki made this movie appealing and approachable by both the young and old, giving different insights and meaning along the way. I dare say its the most re-watchable of his movies. With what is happening around the world lately, its worth another watch to remind us of the frailty of the peace we have and how we should treasure it and not take it for granted.
People throw around the "underrated" moniker a lot, however Porco Rosso is definitely one of those movies that deserves it. It is sad how many Miyazaki fans haven't even seen it. Probably my favourite Ghibli movie.
I overlooked the political theme of this movie. When I first saw this, I just sipped my iced tea, sit on the couch, and enjoyed watching the movie and the theme songs
I'm sorry if I'm being assholish, but how do you even manage that lol, the movie is so overt in its themes that it feels strange that someone misses the anti facist themes.
@@beechboiii People like me just don't really notices things when watching movies. Not even meaning they're dumb, it's just the inactivity. Fuck I can barely remember what a movie is about 10 minutes later.
@@beechboiii It all depends on the viewing mental state at that time. For example, one of my favorite 'relaxing' Ghibli movie is 'From Up the Poppy Hill'. If I turn on the 'movie critic' brain, I can see the undertone of the Japanese struggle to reconcile its past and tradition with the booming economic future of that time. In my 'relaxing' mode, the movie is just a nostalgic trip back to high school and puppy loves.
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Miyazaki wasn't ever particularly indirect on his stance on fascists, which is what made the official stance in Grave of the Fireflies confusing until you realize *_Miyazaki wasn't the director on that one, it was just that Ghibli animated it_*
Grave of the Fireflies was directed by Isao Takahata, one of Studio Ghibli's co-founders and Miyazaki's good friend/partner. They had a lot of shared influences, but their work is distinct from each other's :)
@@shraka "That it's the boys fault for not putting up with his aunt's bullshit and that's why they died, not because the war is bad and Imperial Japan was fucked up, but because kids like him didn't suck it up" I'm paraphrasing but you can Google the interview pretty easily
@@KaiTenSatsuma Takahata even had to issue an apology after that, saying he didn't intend for the movie to be an ode to conformism, blind-obedience and to be such a heavy-handed guilt-trip. Because yeah, guilt-tripping your youth for not having lived during war times is a pretty fucked up thing to do, even if they're spoiled brats.
@@KaiTenSatsuma I mean, it’s also accurate to say that the message is “I did these stupid things and my sister died, so don’t act like you’ve got everything figured out, remember to be grateful for how good you have it, and swallow your pride for more important things.” Just my takeaway.
I always felt that Porko being a pig was a self imposed curse for having survived the great world where so many of Porko's friends and comrades had died.
Thank you for posting this - Porco Rosso is very much underrated in favour of Miyazaki's bigger films but the content and how much it does in its relatively short runtime has always made it my personal favourite. There's a lot of nuance and room to analyse in the character of Porco and what it means for him to be a pig. I've always been frustrated by the lack of serious treatment the film gets so this video is a pleasure to see.
in french Porco is voiced by Jean Reno, most known as the assassin Léon, and it fits him so well. it's one of the only ghibli movies i will purposely watch in french, but imo all of the french voices in studio ghibli movies are top notch because they tend to go for pro voice actors instead of pure star power. i should watch it again. i loved drawing the planes.
Makes me happy that this movie is still not forgotten. Just watched it 3 weeks ago and couldn't find many video essays about it. Nice to see that there is finally another one
That's a possibility, but I've always read that Marco/Porco is a pig because that's all he seems himself as. He can't forgive himself for having survived when so many didn't. As our Esteemed Host says, he lost his humanity in the war, and it wasn't until the later half of the film that he allowed himself to slowly regain it.
@@DrBunnyMedicinal I think there are multiple reasons and meanings why he is or turned into a pig. The one I mentioned is only one of them. His sorta of nihilistic behaviour could also be one of the reasons why and I agree with you.
My friend believes he is a pig because he's a burn victim from previous flights. It was apparently very common for pilots to suffer burns during dog fights, and the shiny, crackled appearance of pig skin, the glasses always being worn and his self image do line up pretty well with this theory.
@@GNARical Huh. That's a theory I haven't heard before, though it does have both some plausibility and an interesting new angle to throw onto the canon. Thanks for sharing it. 👍
Man what a great essay. This is my favorite Miyazaki movie. It's such a complex and adult story. This is the level of complexity I wanted from a Boba Fett or Mandalorian story from Star Wars but all we get is the goofiest silliest baby food bounty hunter stories possible.
Well, it's not a kid's cartoon, it's a film. Using animation doesn't make it automatically for kids, it has been acknowledged in Japan for a long time already.
I don't know, I don't personally mind calling it a children's film. Maybe something better would be "Family film." A lot of Ghibli movies are taken through the lens of children. See your Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro. Very few people understand that children are far more capable of understanding heavier concepts than we give them credit for.
Completely agree, there's nothing for children about this movie, so I don't know why did he call it a "children's cartoon" did he confuse this with loony toons or something? I liked his analysis but that first phrase kinda bugged me😅. It's an animated movie not a children's cartoon.
Porco Rosso has always been my favourite Studio Ghibli movie. Its peaceful, beautiful, meaningful and somber all at the same time. Porco doesn't do anything important in the story, he lives his life, makes money and that's pretty much it. Despite this there's a rich kind of hate for fascism, for war, and for the soldiers that die meaningless deaths.
If anyone's interested in Italy's experience surrounding the First World War, "The White War" by Mark Thompson is a fantastic read. It goes into pre-war Italian society and the overall effect that the war had that propagated Italy's turn to Fascism. Fascinating history.
I love this movie and the video. The only disagreement I would have is with the interpretation of Porco becoming a pig: not that it was because he "lost his humanity in the war," but more so saw the tragedy and stupidity in humans and didn't want to play the humans' game anymore. Rather a pig than a human. Maybe by the end of the movie, he began to see the worth in humans again.
Porco Rosso, my beloved. The scene in the afterlife gives me goosebumps when i just think of it. The analogy on the losses and the sheir size of tragedy of war is incredible.
Fantastic analysis, i didnt have the chance to watch this one as a kid despite being a fiend for ghibli films; once i watched it as a 19 year old, i was totally taken by it. Glad to see others get it!
I'll make a small correction - the year in which it is set is 1933-36 approximately : The evidence of this is seen in the flight of the Savoia-Marchetti S.55 twin-fuselage flying boats over Milan (as flown by Italo Balbo in 1933 over the Atlantic), as well as on the way to the island; However, it is true that the Curtiss R3C, Ansaldo SVA 9, and the Macchi M.52 racing plane (as flown by his friend Ferrarin) where introduced in 1926-29 period.
When i was younger, while browsing a manga/anime magazine i always got fascinated by a poster of a pilot pig and a woman from pre ww2 era. Little do i know when i watched it as an adult, it became my fav movie of all time. Indeed it's an underrated title from Miyazaki as this is actually a fairy tale for adults. In 90 mins it has action, humour, drama and heartfelt moments. All due to a pig who flies.
I'm a simple guy. I see a Studio Ghibli film in the thumbnail, I click. Hoping you get to talk about certain Ghibli films more. Also, fun fact, Michael Keaton voiced Porco in the English Dub.
i completely missed the allegory of "red pig" despite having learned a bit of italian and knowing the colour words. and i'm suprised how simple and in your face it is, that socialism is always preferable to fascism, and even if you aren't a socialist, you'll be branded as a red pig by a fascist before they reconsider their beliefs.
theres more i want to say here, but i'll leave my original comment succinct. this is coming to the fore in my life now, seing fascists rise to crush those under their foot for daring to stay visible, crushing my trans sisters and brothers as deviant and decadent, pornographic and malicious. we are made out to be pigs, which i will stand confidently in opposition to, but i will also proudly say as a fan of a rough, dumb, brave red pig, i'd gladly be one too, then see myself losing my inside humanity. though i'd give Porco a piece of my mind first. Women are none your lesser, and i'd remind him if he saw me any lesser because of my identity, that reactionism of that kind is no better than those who would see pigs dead.
@@xymaryai8283 What "fascists" might you be referring to? As far as I know the whole 'trans' movement is pretty US centric, and I'd be curious to hear about any places or people using "Oppressive, dictatorial control", and what exactly that control looks like.
@@xymaryai8283 PUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA there's no way you're being serious right now. Not allowing transgenders to spew their insane propaganda to children is not "fascism".
@@OntheOtherHandVideos there are examples across Europe, Asia and Africa, some worse than the worst that Florida or Tennessee has to offer, but you're right its not a global movement, and places like Australia are relatively safe, even Britan is not as dangerous as mild red States. but i have a lot of friends in places like Texas, and they are always dangerously tetering on the edge, being denied humanity and living miserably, living dangerously, or not living. (i assume you meant anti-trans movement, because trans people have existed since gender has existed, across the entire planet, in every small culture)
I never clicked so fast on a video. I've loved this movie since I was a kid, it was part of my "most rewatched VHS tapes" collection. I adore the way it's done, the messages, everything. Thank you for this great video essay on a terribly underrated movie!
this really struck a chord with me when you mentioned WW2. The last of the greatest generation who actually had to beat down fascism will soon die within my own lifetime, and its disturbing to see it regaining momentum as those same ww2 era people die off.
Let that be your call to action then. I'm not saying you should charter a boat and land on Normandy, just that the best way to honor that generation is to carry on that fight. Give no ground to Fascism.
@@cameronmcleod8419 agreed. The best way to ensure fascism never comes back we need to be vigilant and make sure our freedoms are never infringed upon.
“The monster never dies no matter how many times you kill it. It just sheds its skin and changes form. Can feel the weight of the world pushing me down. I try to carry it nonetheless. One last time. Then I can rest.”
One of the greatest animated movies ever. There's so much to love about this movie, yet of all the events to make my heart overflow; it was Porco's display for Gina when she was waiting in her garden. The music that grows and settles as he performs his loops; a celebration of liberty that Porco shares with Gina only to surge again into one last reminder of the connection they both shared as older kids over the ocean. Simply thinking about the scene has me welling up with emotion. I was introduced to Ghibli through Princess Mononoke when I was a teen. However, Porco Rosso has hands down become and remained the #1 Ghibli film to me.
I am kicking myself right now that I haven't ever properly dove into Studio Ghibli's old works, because this looks like a film my spouse and I would adore! Thank you for making a video about it. Also, about it looking like a generic fantasy image of Europe through the eyes of a Japanese tourist - my spouse and I have always said that about Howls Moving Castle as well, but as Europeans we're ridiculously charmed by it. We're self aware enough to know how incredibly often Asian culture in general is fetishized and viewed through a western lens. To see the tables turned is a lovely way of seeing how Europeans are viewed through a non-European lens. We really appreciate that. I'm definitely going to watch this some time soon.
Good point. Arguably, fascism doesn't support state monopoly on violence so much as *Party* monopoly on violence. Extra-governmental violence is fine so long as it's done by the right kind of thugs.
@@shatterquartz I don't think the monopoly on violence is the right angle to take. All types of states (e.g. fascist, dictatorial, democratic) will claim that monopoly. I'd argue that the difference with fascism is that violence is legitimized when it is employed in the interests of the fascist party or personality.
A bit of nuance here. I cringe at most people too eager to express nothing but a blind disgust toward Fascism/Nazism with little to no knowledge on either movements. Anything goes when you're taught to hate something so radically. People aren't asking the right questions like how is it that we all spit fire against right wing authoritarianism as we constantly watch movies/animations depicting them as caricatures of ultimate evil but what we don't see is Communism in any form (live action/animation), where's 0 major production on Bolsheviks, Red Terror, 0 on Holodomor (killed 10 million Ukrainians), 0 on Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, 0 on Gulags, mass murdering of intelligencia, murder of Romanov family... nothing on more deadly leaders than Hitler, like Stalin or even Mao. Such questions are a path to escape the Matrix. Evil as Fascism/Nazism might have been, they lost and are not back, but those who won, they run the entertainment industry, ivy leagues and corporate world. I'm lucky if this even reaches you as such comments (no matter how objective and simply asking questions) are not even public. I try to view them with another account and they're not there. If you do read this however, do give me a feedback and if you'd like to interact more, that'd be impossible here so I have a similar username and same avatar on X.
appreciate your choice of music, and lack thereof at certain moments. really sets the tone well, and brings out the significance of your analysis. this whole video was well written, recorded, and edited. great work!
Very interesting, but surprised you didn't mention how the US pilot is on the side of fascism - US industrywas more than happy to side with fascismat every opportunity. Read Parenti's book Black Shirts and Reds.
I have known of this movie for a few years, but sinfully paid no attention to it. I know that Miyazaki is a master storyteller and uses every opportunity to teach and enlighten their audience with something that we desperately need to learn, but I had no idea this movie held such significance. It is so wild to me to see how the coinage of our vocabulary evolves with time, along with society. The word "pig" is pretty synonymous with "police" and has been for a few decades now, so it can be imagined the surprise when presented with the video title: "Better a Pig Than a Facist"- since.... as a modern-day American actively watching her country be ripped apart by fascists within my own government, I hear pig, I hear facist. So I am going to put all of my worldy worries to the side, sit down and watch this movie so I can really see something worthwhile to further enhance my perspective of this absolutely insane world. Thank you so much for the education. 🌸
Porco Rosso is my favorite Ghibli movie and you breaking down the sociopolitical aspects of it makes me enjoy it even more. I never stopped to think of him being a man of the people and how that puts him in direct opposition to the fascist state. It makes sense when you remember that Miyazaki was the chairman of the animator's union during his time working for Toei as a young man.
Thanks for gifting us this essay. Thanks for reminding us of this gem. Thanks for making this analysis. Thanks for bringing me back the memories of this movie.
If I remember, his actual name was Marco. Porco was the name he took after the war, when he abandoned his humanity. I thought it was a nice touch for the Austro-Hungarian forces in the flashback to fly Lohner L flying boats while the Italian forces were flying the Macchi M.3, which was developed from the Lohner. Basically, both sides were flying the same plane, so it was like they were fighting against themselves. I have two copies of this movie. One is in Japanese with English subtitles and the other is in Italian.
Porco having the will and morality to "point his gun" in the direction of his choosing, and that in of itself being a threat to the fascist machine, is highly underrated. Allowing figures of authority to have a monopoly on violence, is how it all starts.
''It's kinda wild to hear the word fascist in a children's cartoon'' No it's based, it's based to hear the word fascism in a childrens cartoon, they gotta learn young. Also Porco Rosso isn't the only Ghibli film with a real historical setting. Princess Mononoke is set in Muromachi period Japan, despite being a fantasy film, the setting itself is definitely historical.
i actually laughed when he said that only because I immediately remembered tree trunk's protesting against princess bubblegum in adventure time were her sign said "fascist" (in reference to bubblegum) on the front in cursive glitter. so technically porco is not the only kids show to at least have the word in it at least?
Thank you! This has always been my favorite Ghibli films and having you make a video about it tickles such a specific spot for me. I’ve always loved this movie because the only real threat or “enemy” is ideals. Even from the beginning when the pirates kidnap the school girls, they’re nice they let the girls play on the ship, and while Porco and the pirates get into a dogfight you’re never really worried because you know Porco wouldn’t risk hurting the kids and the pirates have proven they’re not necessarily “evil”. That’s why this video is perfect this only enemy Porco has is fascism and the people who work with and through it. Thank you again Accented Cinema love this movie and love this analysis!
Porco Rosso takes place in 1929, which means that ostensibly speaking, some of the little girls he saves at the beginning of the movie would be alive today. That little fantasy thought makes me happy for some reason.
Man when I first saw/bought this film i think i was later teens, so I could see/understand the context of it in WW1/2. Never realized the bubble period Japan angle. I think the only other time I saw/understood a Ghibil film was going over this time period and all its troubles was nearly a decade later when "The Wind Rises" came out. I think this is a great reminder of how we view/interact with others is affected by the economics/politics of the time. I hope more people will take a glance at this film and notice what their/other governments are doing that mirror the movie. And yes this movie is more about the control of Fascism and how if effects our humanity. Vervus Spy & technology "games" shown in "The Wind Rises" shows the limits of being a patriot vs regular person trying to achieve progress for all via a technology.
Spirited Away must have so much parable and allegory. There are bits I can make out perhaps. The company v traditional life. The soot that must keep working or it will turn back to soot. The greedy parents with credit cards and cash who think that can solve everything. Nohface who thinks gold can solve everything, and the need for ravenous consumption. Haku as a kind of salaryman/husband loyal to the company, instead of his love. The giant grotesque baby and the fear of disease, and yet the baby is not even noticed to be missing. There’s so much criticism of the bubble and post-bubble economy there, but I’m sure a bit more cultural knowledge opens it up. The train that only goes one way. The cottage with a twin granny who is nothing like her contract giving/industry leading sister. It’s a real masterpiece to my mind.
This video made me realize I don't remember not knowing the word 'fascist' But I'm from Spain, and here they won the war, ruled from 1936 to 1975 and still have a lot of power and presence today. The national trauma somehow passes from one generation to the next. So Porco Rosso fighting fascism was, from me and my born-in-democracy friends, very fucking cool, and I think the political subtext was just natural for us because of the conflictive narratives in our country. Btw, always wondered how this film was seen in the US. America has this anti-fascist tradition, but also the anti-leftist one... and in this movie we have an anarchoid hero called the Red Pig and a parody of Reagan called Curtis What a masterpiece of a film anyway
It's great to see the appreciation and depth of the film only Ghibli film I've watched and will forever stay with me. Thank you for bringing the memories back.
Better a pig than fascist No words ring truer in the current times. Miyazaki has always been hard on his critique on our societal tendencies, and this is his best example. I concur with Porco, I'd rather be a red swine as well.
@@mxnevermind How the fuck do you protect someone, violently? You mean they got attacked, right? That's what you're saying, and you want to spin this in a weird mental gymnastic to make people expressing their poor taste opinions look like physical violence?
ever since i discovered porco roso, it has been my favorate. I've always beleived never got enough attention and whenever people ask for anime movie recs, i point them to this film. even pulling out my dvd to stream it for if they cant watch it anywhere else. thank you for this video
"took the relatively peaceful period between the 2 world wars" Meanwhile in Russia, China, Spain, Poland, Finland, Turkey, and like half south America: 🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥
i saw this movie when i was a kid, back in the 90's. it never left my mind, and last week i was talking about it with a friend of mine... without even remembering the plot. thank you so much for this video and a "salve" from brasil. indeed: better a pig than a fascist.
@@redcrown5154 Alright Fascism- One Party centralized state following a majority rule mentality, this system is(and I hope I don’t have to tell you this) inherently Un-Democratic and easily turned oppressive. It follows a shrinking of the allowed political spectrum in a country and fully embraces Militarism. Advocates for the full restriction of individualism in favor of subservience to the greater country, which is often represented by the state, which is often represented by the Party, which is often headed by a “Strong-Man” dictator.. you see where that goes. While it’s not inherently Racist or discriminatory, it often is due to the next point I’ll get into. Nationalism- Okay this one is a bit complicated, there are different kinds of Nationalism and not all of them are technically bad per-say. There are three main types of Nationalism: Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism and Civic Nationalism. Ethnic Nationalism is exactly what it sounds like and is a philosophy that’s been historically adopted in countries like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan most famously. This advocates for the holding of a particular Ethnic group over others and is inherently discriminatory. This is about the worst kind of Nationalism you’ll probably find. This type of Nationalism is possible in countries with a defined Race or Ethnic group and doesn’t really apply to Multi-Cultural countries. Cultural Nationalism advocates for the expanse of a certain Culture over others-For example, people from Quebec would be Culturally Nationalist if they tried to force Quebecois culture on the rest of Canada. This is possible in just about every country and is discriminatory in most cases. And finally Civic Nationalism- This is where It gets a bit complicated as it’s not technically inherently discriminatory- It often entails the holding/forcing of a particular ideology or political stance above others. This one is a bit situational, If it’s something like trying to bring Democracy and Equality to oppressed minorities or something.. than yeah, it’s not a bad thing in the sense- But on the other hand if you’re say.. trying to dominate the political setting with something like Nazism you can see why it could be a bad thing. But generally this is the most tame sense of Nationalism and in many ways has benefits. You see this type of Nationalism generally in Multi-Cultural countries that aren’t tied to a certain Ethnic group or defined Culture; Take Brazil or The USA as examples. Generally Nationalism isn’t a good thing, there’s nothing wrong with being patriotic for your Country or Ethnicity but generally trying to force it on others or trying to get rid of anyone who isn’t you will never be a good idea. Authoritarianism- Repressiveness.. restriction of personal rights in favor of greater control from a centralized government headed by a couple people.. do I need to explain this to you? Begone internet troll
2:49 I like when people admit that there's argument about the meaning of fascism, because the reason for the disagreement is obvious, even if most people don't realize Fascism is a movement that arises organically, but it only thrives to the level it did in Germany and Italy when it's picked up as a guard dog by the capitalist elites, proped up with endless financial and mediatic support Admiting this is admiting that capitalism will create fascism again and again, and that's an unacceptable truth for most scholars
You are not making any sense whatsoever. Capit alism has nothing to do with either fas cism or nazi sm. On the contrary, both ideologies opposed it, and also international soci alism, hence the concept of a “third way,” their centralized economic policies obeyed coll ectivist and so cialist principles, openly opposing capi talism and the free market, favoring nat ionalism and autarchy.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. okay, if what You said is true, and the facist principle of autarchy at all costs is NOT capitalistic, and if they followed ideals of collectivism, then surely, the nazis would be opposed by the capitalist elites, right? I'd say if you're correct, then the great corporations of pre-nazi Germany would be hurt, or maybe even colectivized outright by the state, do you agree with that line of thinking?
@@Tsuruchi_420 _"then surely, the na zis would be opposed by the capitalist elites, right?"_ And they were. German businesses did not initially support the National Socia lists and always had a contentious relationship with the Party. N azis issued quotas for industries and farms and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party.
Thank you for this analysis! Interesting comparison you made at the end, with 1980s Japan. I can definitely see your point, but when I watched the movie, I didn't see the hotel and the bar as symbols of decadence ; it's not exaggerated enough in my opinion. Some scenes of Spirited Away, for example, made me feel that way. Here, it's more like they managed to preserve this little corner of the Adriatic untouched from the troubles stirring on the continent.
I misused the term "populist" as if I was living in the 1920s.
Just interpret it as "a -man- pig of the common people". (sorry)
You also made a mistake with your definition of fascism. I addressed it on my other comment
PORCO ROSSO not made for childrens :)
You're a legend dude. No worries!
Fun fact. Porco Rosso was originally made to be a more lighthearted movie but then the Yugoslav wars broke out and that led to studio Ghibli deciding to make a more somber adult movie.
He also abstained from mentioning Yugoslavia by name, which is mentioned in the manga, despite it being clear from the maps Marco lives in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
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Interesting fact! Where did you find that?
@@Polo9794 Miyazaki: If you couldn't feel it from the film, that'll be better. I shouldn't have made the story take place in the Adriatic Sea in the first place. Many people think it took place in Italy, but Porco lives on the Croatian shoreline. Then it became the warfield by the civil war. I was just going to make a story you can just grin at (ufufu), but it became more complicated. Then, I had to read the modern history of Yugoslavia, but there isn't a consistent history book, and it was very difficult to make sense out of it. Gosh, I was careless. I always try to make a film uncomplicated, but somehow, it gets complicated. It was the same thing with Laputa. I thought I could make it more uncomplicated, but it's inevitable that my own various thoughts creep in, and make things complicated. When I finish making up the story, somehow, I find I made the story complicated.
Certainly, I made Porco as I wanted. I couldn't do it in any other way. But I also feel kind of humiliated for changing the plan in the middle, not making it as planned from the start. You know, I was going to make a forty-five minutes movie, and it became more than twice as long. -laughs-
Here's a quote from an interview, you can easily find it online
這麼簡單的道理，中俄領導卻不懂
If we look at Miyazaki's work, pigs always represent the loss of hope, illusion, or esence. In Spirited away, the adults turn into pigs. In Princess Mononoke, its the boar spirits that lose faith in humanity and fall into corruption. In this movie, Porco has also lost his esence, and in the end, he regains it, which is why they say they never saw his face again: He gained his esence back, and was no longer a pig.
I think we can perhaps differentiate between the greedy pigs and Porco and the noble wild boars of the forests of yore. Perhaps there is a link, but the corruption in Mononokehime comes from outside and is not exemplified by being porcine. I think.
@@agin1519 there is of course a difference between both, but they still carry a significant similarity in the motives they play. They are creatures Who had but Lost faith, in a general sense. The wild boars lost their faith in the ways of the forest and gave themselves to corruption, just like porco lost his faith on humanity and the revolution
Furthermore pigs are common antagonists notably in the Zelda series and Mother 3. Pigs look more like humans than any other animal as primates are people in fursuits/animatronics which renders evolution laughable. Mehr Wahrheit1 has a great video on thalidomide and how pigs are actually boar/human hybrids. Given all of the fake animals we're exposed to I believe her research here. Miyazaki is privy to knowledge regular people are not by virtue of his status on the world stage and being an obvious freemartin. He likely knows the true origin of pigs as boar/human artificial creations and fleshes out much of the darker truths about this world through the vehicle of this highly modified creature. Sick world we live in
I dont get properly labeled renderings of the subatomic structure of key portions of my [citizens] central nervous systems.
@@tophario1492 I'm going to screenshot this and send it to my friends, wow that is insane
i always saw rosso as story about survivors guilt. i believed that the reason porco became a pig was because he didn’t view himself as a human of value due to losing so many of his comrades and friends in ww1. though i think i agree with your understanding of the film more.
@Gaawachan that’s what I’m thinking
Survivor's guilt is absolutely a part of it- it's something many soldiers have to deal with as part of their PTSD. His guilt and his trauma from the war both lead him to the same place- that is, losing his humanity and abandoning connections to the people around him.
Personally, I had always seen it as him taking the step more voluntarily- he didn't _lose_ his humanity, he got rid of it because of the things he had seen humanity do in the war. But I don't think that's necessarily any more correct than other ways to interpret things in the movie- Miyazaki, much like David Lynch, is much more concerned with the _feeling_ of a film and what it evokes than he is about any specific details of plot or story. Porco is a pig because being a pig is what suits the film's purposes, and no particular explanation for the exact reasons is necessary.
@@manmaw_prod It could very well be, that scene when Rosso goes to "pilot heaven" is so emotionally charged.
@@matiasbonta7829 i’ve gotten high and cried to that scene several times
I think its fine to have your own interpretation, there is no one objective truth
Hands down, my favorite Ghibli film. It encompasses all aspects that makes a Miyazaki film. Anti war, freedom/adventure, self determination, and those Skyscapes.
I agree, it’s honestly in my top five favorite films as well.
I think this video essay is trying to see something beneath those superficial veneer.
And socialism
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I dont think fascists are too bad
I like mussolini theatrinism speeches
Its like wwe wrestling promo
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My favorite as well. Beautiful movie
It's even more haunting considering the Japanese concept artists had to flee Croatia (the art was based on the Adriatic coast of Croatia) because of a new war in 1991.
One directly and specifically caused by artificially inflated Nationalism by the elite, no less.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 Are you implying that these Japanese artists were somehow partially responsible for previous war crimes?
Otherwise, I dont understand what the point youre trying to make is??
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 This has nothing to do with WW2. This is the Yugoslav Wars!
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Just ignore these guys, they are the ‘learn from history enthusiast’ who only learn about history of them getting attacked, and forget when they are the attacking. Or simply only remember when they are the good and completely ignore all their bad going’s.
As if there is a single country in the entire world that is purely sinless(?) and have never committed a war crime.
@@sparklesparklesparkle6318 I see one more moronic fan of whatifalthist and I’ll spread your guts across this website
Just a little extra tid bit for people who are curious, the song Gina sings in her night club is called "Le Temps Des Cerises" (The Time of Cherries) which is a bittersweet song about the fall of the Paris Commune in 1871, specifically the semaine sanglante (bloody week) when the French army overran the commune with terrible bloodshed. Very much on point with the theme of failed revolution and the cruel reaction that follows it.
To be precise, the song was written before the Paris Commune, in 1866, however it became associated with it later.
Poor commies, they never hurt a fly.
thank you!
@@golDroger88 blah
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The communards weren't the stalinists or leninists of the 20th centruy, but actual marxist socialists fighting for a better life.
Maybe read up on the Paris commune instead of spouting BS.
In Italy we celebrate the liberation from Fascism the 25th of april, and since Porco Rosso takes place in fascist Italy it easily became a must watch for many young boys and girls in this holiday. I don't know if you uploaded the video on purpose in this period but it's a welcomed surprise, great video as always and Buona Liberazione 🐷🌹
Hope Giorgia Meloni doesn't cancel that celebration.
Funnily enough, Portugal also has a holiday in the 25th of April. The Carnation Revolution where the military rose up against the authoritarian regime. So yeah.
25th of April seems to be a popular date to fight fascism!
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@@noneofyourbusiness4616 She's not a Fascist, since fascism embraces socialist/communist ideas.
@@noneofyourbusiness4616 she's not that powerful ;)
Easily one of Miyazaki's best. I love the risks he took with Porco Rosso. It has some of his vintage trademarks- curses, war, flying, etc.. but it does so many things you don't expect. You assume it will be about a man redeeming himself and overcoming a curse, but it skips all that and does so much more!
The soundtrack is one of my favorites from Joe Hisiashi, and I often put it on to relax. So whimsical, and nostalgic... Makes me want to reminisce and ponder...
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"A fun movie for kids, a thought provoking one for adults."
An attribute which makes so many animated films great.
I also remember how Miyazaki often drew himself as a pig. I heard that Porco Rosso is the character most like him.
The character that is most like him is the protagonist of wind rises Jiro Horikoshi, miyazaki portrayed a lot of himself in him
After watching Porco Rosso when I was 11, I never bothered to give it another look to see the subtext and themes in every frame, nor did it come to my mind that Porco was a populist (Red Swine). Thank You Accented Cinema for giving us the this film analysis on themes of this Ghibli Classic.
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One detail that has always irked me: the blue-and-green flags seen in in 3:07 and elsewhere are entirely fictional and have nothing to do with the Fascist movement (or with Italy as a country) Given that the film is otherwise very straightforward in its historical setting and its political message, I've always wondered why they wouldn't use actual Fascist symbology in those scenes.
@@ArkadiBolschek Perhaps so as to not have fascist symbols in the movie. Also perhaps because the goal was to get us to see the fascism/authoritarianism around us, a thing we'd miss if we could put the symbols into a box marked "historical artifact."
@@p.strobus7569 Yet the air force planes pursuing Porco Rosso towards the end do have Fascist symbols on them. It's like they couldn't make up their mind whether they wanted to portray Fascist imagery or not (?)
@@ArkadiBolschek because you should have grasped the repeated theme by the end of the film, so there's not as much reason to hold as much pretense, if you'd paid attention or had a brain
You really have done this film justice with such a lovingly made video essay.
I am eager to watch it.
I have ptsd from an armed conflict in my home country, were people raised against a faccist regime and were repressed with firearms. This video struck a chord deep with me. Im literally in tears. I watched Porco Rosso so many years ago, when I was a kid that I defintively didnt understand it. Now more than ever, having had to flee my country I can understand the true meaning of "better a pig than a faccist". Thanks you so much for this video.
Uhh... Where's your home country? What happened there?
@@canesvenatici4259 Venezuela, and what happened is a series or riots and protest against the government that lasted for over a year and were escalating to the point of happening nationwide. This happened amidst the worse economic crisis venezuela had ever experienced by far, with our money reaching zimbabwe levels were a single dollar was equivalent to billions of Bolívares. There was huge scarcity and the president had the audacity to reject an offer for humanitarian aid from the UN because "everything was fine". So the protest escalated to riots, they were happening on everywhere, from small towns in the rural parts of the country to all the big cities. And the government answered with brutal repression, eventually relying on sending the military to shoot people. I was a first aids volunteer, and had the place where I lived with my mom raided twice and I almost got shot. So I ended up packing my shit, as most of my friends did, and left to a better country with plans of bringing my family here eventually.
@@SilverAlex92I have some random questions that if inappropriate, you don't need to answer.
Has this experience changed your opinion on if citizens have the right to own arms(arms NOT firearms)** for the purposes of defense against any threat foreign or domestic?
I know you chose to leave the violence, so I'm thinking you personally wouldn't have chosen to purchase arms to defend yourself. That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government?
**The reason why I and America's founding fathers say arms, is because we believe that citizens have the right to own the same weapons as any government. The right isn't limited to firearms
@@TheGrowlingAraknid In venezuela there were many legal open carry laws, and its country particularly lax in its gun control laws. The country doesn't faces mass shooters issues as you do, but rather the issue is that even a petty thief is packing a gun and crime groups own military grade weapons.
In particular during those protest the government used citizen wielding guns as an excuse to allow the use if live ammunition to repress the riots. The sent the military wearing full tactical gear, including bullet proof vests, gas masks, and in some cases high grade weapons. There were reports of snipers used a couple of times.
If everyone was armed and had the will to fight the govt to the end, the riots would have ended in a massacre. People with guns and zero real combat experience stand no chance against a full tactical team using tear gas, stun grenades, and live amunation. And on top of that the fact that some people DID bring guns, in the american style of fight for your country was the reason the repression went from police brutality to military using live ammo on your citizens.
To answer this question "That said, is there any scenario where you would make the decision to fight a tyrannical government?"
Well, the thing is I did take that choice. And I concluded that well intended revolutionaries don't stand a chance against an organized military force that has full approval to use their entire arsenal.
The image of revolutionaries storming the capitol and replacing the government, while noble as thought in your constitution, or in movies is a lie. It will only happen IF and ONLY IF the military itself decides not to shoot the people and let them reach the capitol/senate/white house.
@@SilverAlex92 I get that civilians can't typically fight governments but that's due to governments banning arms but not firearms. We are supposed to have nukes if we wanted, since we trust the government to have them. Yes they can kill us all, the point of fighting isn't to win by defeating them. The point is to force the government to concede, since the way they are directly paid is through our taxes. If they kill 100,000 tax payers who paid let's say 5 dollars a year, they now never get paid 500,000 dollars a year from them. After a certain amount of death, governments would have to concede. If not then they were planning on enslaving you anyways. Without a gun, how much resources would a government need to spend to realistically get any of us to comply? It can be done with a couple unarmed dudes, what are we gonna do? Punch mutiple guys and win? With arms, now what does it take? They are now risking losing a government agent, if they don't want to risk it, now they have to spent 100,000 dollars to drone strike one guy, a taxpayer, in a neighborhood. Which means now, if they cared, have to pay for the neighboring houses they destroyed. Now add 250,000-850,000 to the previous cost. If they don't pay, citizens lose their trust in said government and are less likely to support the more it happens.
That's just if one dude is armed with a basic rifle, now what if he had mortar launcher or a stinger missile launcher? The cost increases. Granted this only works if the citizens are willing to die for their freedom. If the population is too she-dog to die for beliefs then ofc the government. But they are the ones who benefit of your fear. Would it ever benefit a slavemaster to kill any and all of his slaves? No, right? Who will work for him if they are dead? I get that death is scary and it's a personal choice if you'd rather live a humiliating slave life or fight demanding the government respect you.
They used people having guns as the excuse? Would you say that it's vaild? Couldn't it rather be that the government will find any excuse to justify any action, considering it's the government? For example Israel routinely justifies killing dozens to 100's of Palestinians saying that because "they assaulted us with rocks!" That them taking over more and more Palestinian land is justified. I'd say that's akin to what your government was doing. Governments don't like violent protests.
I ask this, Why SHOULD any government ever listen or care about what it's citizens want? we should have fine times, indeed, if, to punish tyrants, it were only sufficient to assemble the people! Your arms, where with you could defend yourselves, are gone; and you have no longer an aristrocratical, no longer a democratical spirit. Did you ever read of any revolution in a nation, brought about by the punishment of those in power, inflicted by those who had no power at all?
This was actually a quote from founding father Patrick Henry, said in a Speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1788
Why did the protests happen in the first place? Over inflation? Did you guys blame the government for that? Or were they doing something extra to ?
The reason he turned into a pig is because he saw himself as a pig, in italy and other parts of the world being called a pig is a terrible insult, he saw himself as terrible because, unlike his friend, he survived the battle, not only that but he loved his deceased friend's widow, this is a metaphor, later on in the movie he returns human since he realizes that he wasn't a bad person after all. Love this movie also love the planes showned in it, i dunno, hydro planes have such a style and elegance that modern hydro planes cant even dream of
I also think it's in part because of what he mentioned with the 'red pig' being used for communists and socialists. The state sees him as a pig and as other people are the components of the larger machine of fascism, they do so too. Only those who know him as well as possible can look past what the state forces them to see and see him for what he is; just a man, separated from his political beliefs.
One reason why he may have became a pig was because of what the state was telling everyone. More and more people see him as it until it is his identity. He is owned by his beliefs, and they make up what everyone sees of him on the surface. Only when you look deeper into his character and become more acquainted with him do people not see him as such.
Curtis also notes Porco's 'transformation' back into a human. Curtis, as an American, would have been by nature deeply insulted by the very idea of fascism due to his belief of freedom and as such may have considered Porco to be part of this machine himself, having not acquainted himself with his good works over the years (such as saving the captured ship from terrorists). After the duel, however, Curtis sees Porco as just another man, as vulnerable as the other men around him. He is no different; he is just a human with different beliefs. Curtis realises this and so sees Porco for what he truly is.
I also see this whole argument of the pig being just a veil used by the state to hide his true self from the people as being another reason why Ferrari sees Porco as something else. Ferrari watched Porco betray Italy for his own beliefs and yet seeing such an act of heroics performed by the man caused Ferrari never to adopt that vision of Porco as a pig. Porco may refer to himself as one solely because according to the state he is, but Ferrari is wiser, and understands who Porco is and what he stands for. That's probably a good reason why at the very end, Ferrari announces that the Air Force are on their way and for everyone to depart lest they be harmed. Ferrari doesn't want to harm these people because, much like Fio, and Curtis, he sees Porco and the others for what they are.
Finally, I also wanted to note how the theme of animals constantly comes up. Well, less so animals but moreso humans looking like them. Porco's mechanic Mr. Piccolo and the Federated Pirates all have multiple things in common, the most notable of which are their distinct appearances. They're being shown as 'animals' for their beliefs. The Federated Pirates are being shown as animals because, much like in Porco's case, the state is concealing who he is and slandering his reputation as a man solely for his beliefs. Porco and the Pirates are two sides of the same law-breaking coin. Mr. Piccolo, on the other hand, is described as a 'mole' due to his appearance, but I believe this is because he's effectively an undercover individual. He's not publicly out in unison with Porco about his beliefs and anti-fascism; he actually operates in society just fine, but secretly, deep down, he's a 'mole', an undercover agent for Porco to get parts and pieces of his plane from. No one else but Porco makes this statement, so I believe that this is actually slightly more separate from the whole theory of Porco being shown as a pig by the fascist state; it's because only Porco sees Mr. Piccolo for what he truly is, that being a man AND a mole. He's both an undercover agent and a man and Porco doesn't treat Piccolo any different for it. No one else sees it but should they, they absolutely would treat him differently for it...they just haven't picked up on his subtle support of anti-fascist views yet.
To add a little bit more context to the rise of the fascist movement, Mussolini started organizing his "squadracce", most of the time groups of veterans of WWI, to fight the socialist and communist groups and was sponsored by landlords in the countryside and factory owners in the cities. This allowed him to expand and arm his personal militia. When he thought that he had gained enough power, he marched on the capital, occupying it. The high commanders of the Italian army wanted to disperse the invading force, but the king took a liking to the man and decided to appoint him as prime minister. Important to note: Mussolini did not take part in the march on Rome until he was sure that the army wasn't going to shoot at them
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Mussolini was given the position of PM before the Black Shirts marched on Rome. Mussolini did not lead a coup. He was chosen by the king. The "coup" was a PR move.
@@darkhobo ... What? They marched on Rome and that's why he was given the PM position - to stop them attacking the city.
@@shraka bro, just look it up. He was already given power before the march. The march was just for show. He was already PM.
@@darkhobo can you please give us a source?
11:58 "its better to be a pig than a fascist" is such a profound way to end the video
Yoo is that da real Heisenburg ?
It’s like, “Better dead, than red.”
@@weego2585 Republicans have given new meaning and life to that saying.
@@simonmagid4205are you kidding. AOC came out the other day came out and said Tucker Carlson should be regulated by the government. Next thing we know he has been fired.
@@bngr_bngr Newsflash: Carlson's boss, Rupert Murdoch, is not the government. He is hostile to and has no reason to follow supposed instructions from a Democratic member of Congress who had no power to remove Carlson. Try to rub two brain cells together.
As soon as you said “there’s one line from Porco Rosso” I immediately knew which one because it’s lived rent-free in my head since I was a kid too. I love this movie so much.
Porco Rosso is also a great favourite of mine. The one line that stuck with me, however, is: "A pig that doesn't fly is just a pig!" Or perhaps it's better translated as "just an ordinary pig", I don't know for sure. Either way, by itself it doesn't sound nice or especially empathetic. But it perfectly captures the melancholy of the film in the pivotal romantic scene in which it is spoken, and it also works as a sort of backdrop in the writing that goes against the "liberating" feeling of the soaring takeoffs and the highly emotional flying-scenes.
"When pigs fly!"
I would agree that "ordinary pig" is a better translation. The Japanese line is 飛ばねぇ豚はただの豚だ。Sayingただの豚 instead of just ただ豚 changes the nuance from "just a pig" to "just an ordinary pig" imo! I'm not a native speaker though
@@cedricletherisien4363 Much belated thanks for clarifying. I was relying on external translation souces for my original post, and it is always good to hear from someone more knowledgeable.
Porco Rosso has been my favorite Ghibli for a while, and I'm always happy to see someone talk about it
I dissagree with your take on why Porco keeps his distance from people, especially women, and avoids Gina's love. You say it's because he doesn't want to bring harm to them since he's targeted by the fascists. That would make sense if he had always been their target, but it's heavily implied that he's had this attitude since he came back from WW1 as a pig. I believe his issue isn't "only" about others, but about himself. He suffers from survivors guilt. He believes he should have died, ascended into the great stream with his dead commrades (and even his adversaries). He came back to life a changed man... in the most literal sense. His curse is blaming himself for surviving, and he sees himself, not a man anymore, but as a pig; as something lesser. Yes, he plays it cool, but he avoids anything that reminds him that he is, indeed, still Marco Pagot. Marco became Porco, and Porco fills his life with skill, adventure and solitude in the pursuit of forgetting. If it was by him, Gina should have gotten rid of the only picture of his human face long ago (it's actually most probable that he was the one who defaced it in the first place).
So, yeah... I don't think Porco in protecting anyone here, but he is running away from his past and from himself. He is a man who learns to confront who he is and learns that he can actually be himself again, that he isn't bound to his past; that certain things are not under his controll and he's not to blame. His dissdain and antagonism to fascism actually come from his experience in the war and can be read as the first sign that he actually understands his own need to overcome the bloody mark it left on him. Fascists, especially these original ones, were obsessed with the narrative of the "stolen glory", of an idealized past, and of a lost war that was actually a promisse of grandeour. Porco knows those are lies; Porco knows how the military mindset manipulates young men into the hell of war. The paradox is that he still has to convince himself that he is also still hostage to the past and to war. Not by glorifying it, but by torturing himself about it.
Not really mutually exclusive
disagree* ...
To explain the extent fascists love the stolen Valor thing, there was literally an entire term for it: Vittoria Mutilata or “Mutilated Victory”
It basically inspired their irredentism (for context irredentism is basically “I deserve more stuff, it’s my right to own this, and I will take it by any means.” After WW1 the Italians felt betrayed, which to be fair they actually were as their allies gave them Jack crap compared to what they were promised so the Italians weren’t hypocrites at least, but it defo reinforces the stolen Valor thing.
@@coolsceegaming6178 In Germany they built up a similar thing called "the legend of the backstabbing", where they blamed center and left politicians for their defeat. This lead into a period of escalating violence, political instability, and the rise of proto-fascist paramilitary groups called "Freikorps".
stolen glory?
I guess now is a good time to watch this movie again.
yep
Obviously most Americans missed this. Hope they enjoy their idiocracy 4th Reich.
It's a little bit worrying that simply suggesting that fascism is bad can trigger people and cause such negative reactions.
Or the seemingly defensive response to play whataboutism and try and tell us something else is totally worst.
Hyup... It's nothing but a bunch of handwringing to distract people from the fact that they're completely okay with the atrocities committed by fascist ideologies.
Not that they themselves would truly be able to live in such a government, for how much they want one so badly.
Because "fascist" has become a slur used to demonize and dehumanize people and opinions with which the user disagrees.
A factor for the negative reaction is probably since fascism’s definition has been so muddied so much that it’s literally just used as a “slur” and is explained as “we wanna invade other countries and murder everyone except for ourselves” instead of being explained as being a form of ultranationalism
Womp womp
The French dub is quite amazing and well done and the movie is quite famous in France.
It's the only Ghibli I still watch in French ^^
Really disappointed that they changed the French dub of "Le Temps des Cerises" by the Japanese one in the DVD and on streaming services. Had to track down an VHS to get the original.
Even though i'm not a pig, this is one of my favorite ghibli movies. The beauty of Italy and Croatia, the time period and the freedom of adventure you experience with flying all resonate with me.
I love how Miyazaki made this movie appealing and approachable by both the young and old, giving different insights and meaning along the way. I dare say its the most re-watchable of his movies. With what is happening around the world lately, its worth another watch to remind us of the frailty of the peace we have and how we should treasure it and not take it for granted.
"Death to Fascism! Freedom to the people!"
- Stjepan Filipovic (Yugoslavian Partizan, before his murder by Fascists)
rip bozo
People throw around the "underrated" moniker a lot, however Porco Rosso is definitely one of those movies that deserves it. It is sad how many Miyazaki fans haven't even seen it. Probably my favourite Ghibli movie.
I overlooked the political theme of this movie. When I first saw this, I just sipped my iced tea, sit on the couch, and enjoyed watching the movie and the theme songs
I'm sorry if I'm being assholish, but how do you even manage that lol, the movie is so overt in its themes that it feels strange that someone misses the anti facist themes.
@@beechboiii People like me just don't really notices things when watching movies. Not even meaning they're dumb, it's just the inactivity. Fuck I can barely remember what a movie is about 10 minutes later.
@@beechboiii It all depends on the viewing mental state at that time.
For example, one of my favorite 'relaxing' Ghibli movie is 'From Up the Poppy Hill'. If I turn on the 'movie critic' brain, I can see the undertone of the Japanese struggle to reconcile its past and tradition with the booming economic future of that time.
In my 'relaxing' mode, the movie is just a nostalgic trip back to high school and puppy loves.
@@beechboiii it's because it requires actual attention , or rewatches to understand the stances of a movie
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I like mussolini theatrinism speeches
Its like wwe wrestling promo
I dislike leftists
But i allow them to exist
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*Police officer walks in*
"I said better to be a pig THAN a facist, not pig AND a facist!"
Miyazaki wasn't ever particularly indirect on his stance on fascists, which is what made the official stance in Grave of the Fireflies confusing until you realize *_Miyazaki wasn't the director on that one, it was just that Ghibli animated it_*
Grave of the Fireflies was directed by Isao Takahata, one of Studio Ghibli's co-founders and Miyazaki's good friend/partner. They had a lot of shared influences, but their work is distinct from each other's :)
Wait, what official stance in Grave of the Fireflies? That war is awful?
@@shraka "That it's the boys fault for not putting up with his aunt's bullshit and that's why they died, not because the war is bad and Imperial Japan was fucked up, but because kids like him didn't suck it up"
I'm paraphrasing but you can Google the interview pretty easily
@@KaiTenSatsuma Takahata even had to issue an apology after that, saying he didn't intend for the movie to be an ode to conformism, blind-obedience and to be such a heavy-handed guilt-trip. Because yeah, guilt-tripping your youth for not having lived during war times is a pretty fucked up thing to do, even if they're spoiled brats.
@@KaiTenSatsuma I mean, it’s also accurate to say that the message is “I did these stupid things and my sister died, so don’t act like you’ve got everything figured out, remember to be grateful for how good you have it, and swallow your pride for more important things.”
Just my takeaway.
I always felt that Porko being a pig was a self imposed curse for having survived the great world where so many of Porko's friends and comrades had died.
Thank you for posting this - Porco Rosso is very much underrated in favour of Miyazaki's bigger films but the content and how much it does in its relatively short runtime has always made it my personal favourite. There's a lot of nuance and room to analyse in the character of Porco and what it means for him to be a pig. I've always been frustrated by the lack of serious treatment the film gets so this video is a pleasure to see.
in french Porco is voiced by Jean Reno, most known as the assassin Léon, and it fits him so well. it's one of the only ghibli movies i will purposely watch in french, but imo all of the french voices in studio ghibli movies are top notch because they tend to go for pro voice actors instead of pure star power.
i should watch it again. i loved drawing the planes.
Makes me happy that this movie is still not forgotten. Just watched it 3 weeks ago and couldn't find many video essays about it. Nice to see that there is finally another one
This might be one of your best essays so far. Incredibly well thought-out and put together. As a fan of Miyazaki's work, thank you for this!
An outstanding essay for an outstanding film. Every Accented Cinema video is great, but he's really outdone himself with this one.
Before I ever became anti-capitalist, before I ever became a socialist, porco Rosso had a place in my heart. Now, I love it even more, now I know.
In some way, he might have been transformed or gaslighted by the regime into a pig, an undesirable pig, instead of a charismatic character.
That's a possibility, but I've always read that Marco/Porco is a pig because that's all he seems himself as. He can't forgive himself for having survived when so many didn't. As our Esteemed Host says, he lost his humanity in the war, and it wasn't until the later half of the film that he allowed himself to slowly regain it.
@@DrBunnyMedicinal I think there are multiple reasons and meanings why he is or turned into a pig. The one I mentioned is only one of them.
His sorta of nihilistic behaviour could also be one of the reasons why and I agree with you.
My friend believes he is a pig because he's a burn victim from previous flights. It was apparently very common for pilots to suffer burns during dog fights, and the shiny, crackled appearance of pig skin, the glasses always being worn and his self image do line up pretty well with this theory.
@@GNARical Huh. That's a theory I haven't heard before, though it does have both some plausibility and an interesting new angle to throw onto the canon. Thanks for sharing it. 👍
But it is still noting even with this undesirability his image as charismatic still can’t be killed
Man what a great essay. This is my favorite Miyazaki movie. It's such a complex and adult story. This is the level of complexity I wanted from a Boba Fett or Mandalorian story from Star Wars but all we get is the goofiest silliest baby food bounty hunter stories possible.
"Better a Pig than a Fascist" is easily my personal favorite line of dialogue from any Studio Ghibli movie
porco rosso is my favorite ghibli movie
Same!
You can't find a bad Ghibli movie
Same here. And in French,Porco os dubbed by Jean Reno,so cool!
Definitely one of many Ghibli movies that touched me the most as a teen
Well, it's not a kid's cartoon, it's a film. Using animation doesn't make it automatically for kids, it has been acknowledged in Japan for a long time already.
I don't know, I don't personally mind calling it a children's film. Maybe something better would be "Family film."
A lot of Ghibli movies are taken through the lens of children. See your Spirited Away or My Neighbor Totoro. Very few people understand that children are far more capable of understanding heavier concepts than we give them credit for.
Completely agree, there's nothing for children about this movie, so I don't know why did he call it a "children's cartoon" did he confuse this with loony toons or something? I liked his analysis but that first phrase kinda bugged me😅. It's an animated movie not a children's cartoon.
@@EzraM5 I've seen Porco Rosso and Howl's Moving Castle many times as a child but I didn't understand them until I was a teenager.
@@alenezi989a3Looney Toons is literally made for adults.
This is my favorite movie of all time, from the beauty and comedy, to the heavy message it carries.
Every time I rewatch this film it goes up in my ranking of Ghibli. And that line has also always stuck with me. Great video! Love your analysis!
Porco Rosso has always been my favourite Studio Ghibli movie. Its peaceful, beautiful, meaningful and somber all at the same time. Porco doesn't do anything important in the story, he lives his life, makes money and that's pretty much it. Despite this there's a rich kind of hate for fascism, for war, and for the soldiers that die meaningless deaths.
If anyone's interested in Italy's experience surrounding the First World War, "The White War" by Mark Thompson is a fantastic read. It goes into pre-war Italian society and the overall effect that the war had that propagated Italy's turn to Fascism. Fascinating history.
I love this movie and the video. The only disagreement I would have is with the interpretation of Porco becoming a pig: not that it was because he "lost his humanity in the war," but more so saw the tragedy and stupidity in humans and didn't want to play the humans' game anymore. Rather a pig than a human. Maybe by the end of the movie, he began to see the worth in humans again.
How have I never heard of this movie before? This looks amazing.
It's blatantly pro-Commie and Anti-Fascist..
The US wouldn't like it. 😅
Porco Rosso, my beloved.
The scene in the afterlife gives me goosebumps when i just think of it. The analogy on the losses and the sheir size of tragedy of war is incredible.
Fantastic analysis, i didnt have the chance to watch this one as a kid despite being a fiend for ghibli films; once i watched it as a 19 year old, i was totally taken by it. Glad to see others get it!
I'll make a small correction - the year in which it is set is 1933-36 approximately : The evidence of this is seen in the flight of the Savoia-Marchetti S.55 twin-fuselage flying boats over Milan (as flown by Italo Balbo in 1933 over the Atlantic), as well as on the way to the island; However, it is true that the Curtiss R3C, Ansaldo SVA 9, and the Macchi M.52 racing plane (as flown by his friend Ferrarin) where introduced in 1926-29 period.
Could be a simple film makers mistake to have those in the film?
What an underrated movie. I had a DVD from a newspaper and didn't fully understand it when I was younger. It truly is a gem
When i was younger, while browsing a manga/anime magazine i always got fascinated by a poster of a pilot pig and a woman from pre ww2 era.
Little do i know when i watched it as an adult, it became my fav movie of all time. Indeed it's an underrated title from Miyazaki as this is actually a fairy tale for adults.
In 90 mins it has action, humour, drama and heartfelt moments. All due to a pig who flies.
I'm a simple guy. I see a Studio Ghibli film in the thumbnail, I click.
Hoping you get to talk about certain Ghibli films more. Also, fun fact, Michael Keaton voiced Porco in the English Dub.
my god, the Ghibli Batman agenda! looking forward to Robert Pattinson's va talents in a future Ghibli release :)
And Jean Reno did in the French dub. :)
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i completely missed the allegory of "red pig" despite having learned a bit of italian and knowing the colour words. and i'm suprised how simple and in your face it is, that socialism is always preferable to fascism, and even if you aren't a socialist, you'll be branded as a red pig by a fascist before they reconsider their beliefs.
theres more i want to say here, but i'll leave my original comment succinct.
this is coming to the fore in my life now, seing fascists rise to crush those under their foot for daring to stay visible, crushing my trans sisters and brothers as deviant and decadent, pornographic and malicious. we are made out to be pigs, which i will stand confidently in opposition to, but i will also proudly say as a fan of a rough, dumb, brave red pig, i'd gladly be one too, then see myself losing my inside humanity.
though i'd give Porco a piece of my mind first. Women are none your lesser, and i'd remind him if he saw me any lesser because of my identity, that reactionism of that kind is no better than those who would see pigs dead.
@@xymaryai8283 What "fascists" might you be referring to? As far as I know the whole 'trans' movement is pretty US centric, and I'd be curious to hear about any places or people using "Oppressive, dictatorial control", and what exactly that control looks like.
@@xymaryai8283 PUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA there's no way you're being serious right now. Not allowing transgenders to spew their insane propaganda to children is not "fascism".
@@OntheOtherHandVideos there are examples across Europe, Asia and Africa, some worse than the worst that Florida or Tennessee has to offer, but you're right its not a global movement, and places like Australia are relatively safe, even Britan is not as dangerous as mild red States. but i have a lot of friends in places like Texas, and they are always dangerously tetering on the edge, being denied humanity and living miserably, living dangerously, or not living.
(i assume you meant anti-trans movement, because trans people have existed since gender has existed, across the entire planet, in every small culture)
@@based_kaiser9015 I was going to respond to you but ig there's no use arguing with someone so far down the rabbit hole.
I never clicked so fast on a video. I've loved this movie since I was a kid, it was part of my "most rewatched VHS tapes" collection. I adore the way it's done, the messages, everything. Thank you for this great video essay on a terribly underrated movie!
this really struck a chord with me when you mentioned WW2. The last of the greatest generation who actually had to beat down fascism will soon die within my own lifetime, and its disturbing to see it regaining momentum as those same ww2 era people die off.
fascism and national socialism but failed to defeat the red menace
Let that be your call to action then. I'm not saying you should charter a boat and land on Normandy, just that the best way to honor that generation is to carry on that fight. Give no ground to Fascism.
@@cameronmcleod8419 agreed. The best way to ensure fascism never comes back we need to be vigilant and make sure our freedoms are never infringed upon.
“The monster never dies no matter how many times you kill it. It just sheds its skin and changes form. Can feel the weight of the world pushing me down. I try to carry it nonetheless. One last time. Then I can rest.”
I thought this video was about Lazerpig when I saw the title pop up in my recommendations ... great video.
You're a long way from tankville, man.
One of the greatest animated movies ever. There's so much to love about this movie, yet of all the events to make my heart overflow; it was Porco's display for Gina when she was waiting in her garden. The music that grows and settles as he performs his loops; a celebration of liberty that Porco shares with Gina only to surge again into one last reminder of the connection they both shared as older kids over the ocean. Simply thinking about the scene has me welling up with emotion.
I was introduced to Ghibli through Princess Mononoke when I was a teen. However, Porco Rosso has hands down become and remained the #1 Ghibli film to me.
I am kicking myself right now that I haven't ever properly dove into Studio Ghibli's old works, because this looks like a film my spouse and I would adore! Thank you for making a video about it. Also, about it looking like a generic fantasy image of Europe through the eyes of a Japanese tourist - my spouse and I have always said that about Howls Moving Castle as well, but as Europeans we're ridiculously charmed by it. We're self aware enough to know how incredibly often Asian culture in general is fetishized and viewed through a western lens. To see the tables turned is a lovely way of seeing how Europeans are viewed through a non-European lens. We really appreciate that.
I'm definitely going to watch this some time soon.
Excellent video. My only criticism is that claiming a monopoly on violence is not a characteristic of fascism, it's a feature of all states.
Good point. Arguably, fascism doesn't support state monopoly on violence so much as *Party* monopoly on violence. Extra-governmental violence is fine so long as it's done by the right kind of thugs.
@@shatterquartz I don't think the monopoly on violence is the right angle to take. All types of states (e.g. fascist, dictatorial, democratic) will claim that monopoly. I'd argue that the difference with fascism is that violence is legitimized when it is employed in the interests of the fascist party or personality.
A bit of nuance here. I cringe at most people too eager to express nothing but a blind disgust toward Fascism/Nazism with little to no knowledge on either movements. Anything goes when you're taught to hate something so radically.
People aren't asking the right questions like how is it that we all spit fire against right wing authoritarianism as we constantly watch movies/animations depicting them as caricatures of ultimate evil but what we don't see is Communism in any form (live action/animation), where's 0 major production on Bolsheviks, Red Terror, 0 on Holodomor (killed 10 million Ukrainians), 0 on Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, 0 on Gulags, mass murdering of intelligencia, murder of Romanov family... nothing on more deadly leaders than Hitler, like Stalin or even Mao.
Such questions are a path to escape the Matrix. Evil as Fascism/Nazism might have been, they lost and are not back, but those who won, they run the entertainment industry, ivy leagues and corporate world. I'm lucky if this even reaches you as such comments (no matter how objective and simply asking questions) are not even public. I try to view them with another account and they're not there.
If you do read this however, do give me a feedback and if you'd like to interact more, that'd be impossible here so I have a similar username and same avatar on X.
Your videos are always heavy hitters, but this one in particular is a gem. Loved this one! Thank you for sharing it.
Like you, the phrase “It’s better to be a pig than a fascist” has stuck with me ever since I first saw this film.
that is a stupid phrase if you understand what fascism is.
@@redwojak5182 Oh, I know what fascism is. And yeah, I’d rather be a pig.
Fascists and pigs are one and the same
@@redwojak5182 Speak less.
@@redwojak5182 Go follow your leaders. Swing by your ankles or paint a bunker wall.
appreciate your choice of music, and lack thereof at certain moments. really sets the tone well, and brings out the significance of your analysis. this whole video was well written, recorded, and edited. great work!
When I hear somebody saying that poco Rosso is underrated I was like: He Speaks facts.
The conclusion was very ominous. It's sad that movies like Porco Rosso are timeless.
This video and your commentary genuinely moved me. I hope peace will prevail
Very interesting, but surprised you didn't mention how the US pilot is on the side of fascism - US industrywas more than happy to side with fascismat every opportunity. Read Parenti's book Black Shirts and Reds.
I have known of this movie for a few years, but sinfully paid no attention to it. I know that Miyazaki is a master storyteller and uses every opportunity to teach and enlighten their audience with something that we desperately need to learn, but I had no idea this movie held such significance. It is so wild to me to see how the coinage of our vocabulary evolves with time, along with society. The word "pig" is pretty synonymous with "police" and has been for a few decades now, so it can be imagined the surprise when presented with the video title: "Better a Pig Than a Facist"- since.... as a modern-day American actively watching her country be ripped apart by fascists within my own government, I hear pig, I hear facist.
So I am going to put all of my worldy worries to the side, sit down and watch this movie so I can really see something worthwhile to further enhance my perspective of this absolutely insane world.
Thank you so much for the education. 🌸
You unlocked a core memory with the title of this video. I love Porco Rosso
Dang your conclusion got me in the feels man. What a great comparison and analysis. Thank your for the video
Porco Rosso is my favorite Ghibli movie and you breaking down the sociopolitical aspects of it makes me enjoy it even more. I never stopped to think of him being a man of the people and how that puts him in direct opposition to the fascist state. It makes sense when you remember that Miyazaki was the chairman of the animator's union during his time working for Toei as a young man.
Thanks for gifting us this essay.
Thanks for reminding us of this gem.
Thanks for making this analysis.
Thanks for bringing me back the memories of this movie.
If I remember, his actual name was Marco. Porco was the name he took after the war, when he abandoned his humanity.
I thought it was a nice touch for the Austro-Hungarian forces in the flashback to fly Lohner L flying boats while the Italian forces were flying the Macchi M.3, which was developed from the Lohner. Basically, both sides were flying the same plane, so it was like they were fighting against themselves.
I have two copies of this movie. One is in Japanese with English subtitles and the other is in Italian.
Porco having the will and morality to "point his gun" in the direction of his choosing, and that in of itself being a threat to the fascist machine, is highly underrated.
Allowing figures of authority to have a monopoly on violence, is how it all starts.
This one has stuck with me over the years, too. It’s so good.
I don't know why....maybe I can really relate to the message of this film, living in Greece but this video made me cry
''It's kinda wild to hear the word fascist in a children's cartoon''
No it's based, it's based to hear the word fascism in a childrens cartoon, they gotta learn young.
Also Porco Rosso isn't the only Ghibli film with a real historical setting. Princess Mononoke is set in Muromachi period Japan, despite being a fantasy film, the setting itself is definitely historical.
Yeah, like that spongebob episode where they go on strike against Mr. Krabs
@@nopizzawithoutpineapple I remember being so confused by the picket sign joke in that episode haha
i actually laughed when he said that only because I immediately remembered tree trunk's protesting against princess bubblegum in adventure time were her sign said "fascist" (in reference to bubblegum) on the front in cursive glitter.
so technically porco is not the only kids show to at least have the word in it at least?
Tampopo is a masterpiece, too. Thanks for showing me a favourite within another favourite film. Great commentary + video.
Your videos are always so nice. The Ghiblie visuals obviously add a lot here, but you speak like an artist who loves art; and that's beautiful.
Thank you! This has always been my favorite Ghibli films and having you make a video about it tickles such a specific spot for me. I’ve always loved this movie because the only real threat or “enemy” is ideals. Even from the beginning when the pirates kidnap the school girls, they’re nice they let the girls play on the ship, and while Porco and the pirates get into a dogfight you’re never really worried because you know Porco wouldn’t risk hurting the kids and the pirates have proven they’re not necessarily “evil”. That’s why this video is perfect this only enemy Porco has is fascism and the people who work with and through it. Thank you again Accented Cinema love this movie and love this analysis!
Porco Rosso takes place in 1929, which means that ostensibly speaking, some of the little girls he saves at the beginning of the movie would be alive today. That little fantasy thought makes me happy for some reason.
Man when I first saw/bought this film i think i was later teens, so I could see/understand the context of it in WW1/2. Never realized the bubble period Japan angle. I think the only other time I saw/understood a Ghibil film was going over this time period and all its troubles was nearly a decade later when "The Wind Rises" came out. I think this is a great reminder of how we view/interact with others is affected by the economics/politics of the time. I hope more people will take a glance at this film and notice what their/other governments are doing that mirror the movie.
And yes this movie is more about the control of Fascism and how if effects our humanity. Vervus Spy & technology "games" shown in "The Wind Rises" shows the limits of being a patriot vs regular person trying to achieve progress for all via a technology.
Spirited Away must have so much parable and allegory. There are bits I can make out perhaps. The company v traditional life. The soot that must keep working or it will turn back to soot. The greedy parents with credit cards and cash who think that can solve everything. Nohface who thinks gold can solve everything, and the need for ravenous consumption. Haku as a kind of salaryman/husband loyal to the company, instead of his love. The giant grotesque baby and the fear of disease, and yet the baby is not even noticed to be missing. There’s so much criticism of the bubble and post-bubble economy there, but I’m sure a bit more cultural knowledge opens it up.
The train that only goes one way. The cottage with a twin granny who is nothing like her contract giving/industry leading sister.
It’s a real masterpiece to my mind.
This video made me realize I don't remember not knowing the word 'fascist'
But I'm from Spain, and here they won the war, ruled from 1936 to 1975 and still have a lot of power and presence today. The national trauma somehow passes from one generation to the next.
So Porco Rosso fighting fascism was, from me and my born-in-democracy friends, very fucking cool, and I think the political subtext was just natural for us because of the conflictive narratives in our country.
Btw, always wondered how this film was seen in the US. America has this anti-fascist tradition, but also the anti-leftist one... and in this movie we have an anarchoid hero called the Red Pig and a parody of Reagan called Curtis
What a masterpiece of a film anyway
As an American, I wouldn't say we have an anti-fascist tradition at all, actually.
@@Hifuutorian Well, call it 'WWII narrative' then 🤷🏽♂️ Indiana Jones ,Captain America, the Inglorious Bastards... That thing
@@Hifuutorian We like to have our cake and eat it.
It's great to see the appreciation and depth of the film only Ghibli film I've watched and will forever stay with me. Thank you for bringing the memories back.
Better a pig than fascist
No words ring truer in the current times. Miyazaki has always been hard on his critique on our societal tendencies, and this is his best example.
I concur with Porco, I'd rather be a red swine as well.
I agree that I'd rather be a pig than a fascist, but is not a 'red swine' (socialist) just a fascist with a different coat of paint?
*given the overton window we're seeing across the world, this is such an important movie and sentiment.* Remember, the fash never sleeps.
Are these fascists in the room with you right now?
@@Tremere There were people sieg heiling openly in Melbourne a few weeks ago. The police protected them from counter protestors, violently.
@@mxnevermind Damn, I guess the retarded college-goers in America larping as Marxists means socialism is truly alive and thriving in the states?
@@Tremere Well they aren't , because we give no compromise
@@mxnevermind How the fuck do you protect someone, violently? You mean they got attacked, right? That's what you're saying, and you want to spin this in a weird mental gymnastic to make people expressing their poor taste opinions look like physical violence?
ever since i discovered porco roso, it has been my favorate. I've always beleived never got enough attention and whenever people ask for anime movie recs, i point them to this film. even pulling out my dvd to stream it for if they cant watch it anywhere else. thank you for this video
"took the relatively peaceful period between the 2 world wars"
Meanwhile in Russia, China, Spain, Poland, Finland, Turkey, and like half south America: 🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥
It bothers me that so many people will never see this masterpiece because they don’t like animation 🤡 🤡
This Is for sure a "Common animation hater L"
i saw this movie when i was a kid, back in the 90's. it never left my mind, and last week i was talking about it with a friend of mine... without even remembering the plot. thank you so much for this video and a "salve" from brasil. indeed: better a pig than a fascist.
Outstanding analysis of a wonderful movie! ❤ Down with Fascism! Nationalism! and Authoritarianism!
why?
@@redcrown5154 Why why
@@juicedbeetlejuice4572 go ahead. explain why the above are bad.
@@redcrown5154 Alright
Fascism- One Party centralized state following a majority rule mentality, this system is(and I hope I don’t have to tell you this) inherently Un-Democratic and easily turned oppressive. It follows a shrinking of the allowed political spectrum in a country and fully embraces Militarism. Advocates for the full restriction of individualism in favor of subservience to the greater country, which is often represented by the state, which is often represented by the Party, which is often headed by a “Strong-Man” dictator.. you see where that goes. While it’s not inherently Racist or discriminatory, it often is due to the next point I’ll get into.
Nationalism- Okay this one is a bit complicated, there are different kinds of Nationalism and not all of them are technically bad per-say. There are three main types of Nationalism: Ethnic Nationalism, Cultural Nationalism and Civic Nationalism.
Ethnic Nationalism is exactly what it sounds like and is a philosophy that’s been historically adopted in countries like Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan most famously. This advocates for the holding of a particular Ethnic group over others and is inherently discriminatory. This is about the worst kind of Nationalism you’ll probably find. This type of Nationalism is possible in countries with a defined Race or Ethnic group and doesn’t really apply to Multi-Cultural countries.
Cultural Nationalism advocates for the expanse of a certain Culture over others-For example, people from Quebec would be Culturally Nationalist if they tried to force Quebecois culture on the rest of Canada. This is possible in just about every country and is discriminatory in most cases.
And finally Civic Nationalism- This is where It gets a bit complicated as it’s not technically inherently discriminatory- It often entails the holding/forcing of a particular ideology or political stance above others. This one is a bit situational, If it’s something like trying to bring Democracy and Equality to oppressed minorities or something.. than yeah, it’s not a bad thing in the sense- But on the other hand if you’re say.. trying to dominate the political setting with something like Nazism you can see why it could be a bad thing. But generally this is the most tame sense of Nationalism and in many ways has benefits. You see this type of Nationalism generally in Multi-Cultural countries that aren’t tied to a certain Ethnic group or defined Culture; Take Brazil or The USA as examples.
Generally Nationalism isn’t a good thing, there’s nothing wrong with being patriotic for your Country or Ethnicity but generally trying to force it on others or trying to get rid of anyone who isn’t you will never be a good idea.
Authoritarianism- Repressiveness.. restriction of personal rights in favor of greater control from a centralized government headed by a couple people.. do I need to explain this to you?
Begone internet troll
@@juicedbeetlejuice4572 Nazi annihilated, amazing response
this has to be my favourite Ghibli movie
This was always my favourite Ghibli film and the line "better be a pig than a fascist" always stayed with me. Thank you for this beautiful video.
A wonderful video about one of my favorite films… bravo!
Porco Rosso is the GOAT
They air alot of Ghibli movies between Christmas and New Years, here in Norway and Porco Rosso became my fav movie of theirs, i love it.
2:49 I like when people admit that there's argument about the meaning of fascism, because the reason for the disagreement is obvious, even if most people don't realize
Fascism is a movement that arises organically, but it only thrives to the level it did in Germany and Italy when it's picked up as a guard dog by the capitalist elites, proped up with endless financial and mediatic support
Admiting this is admiting that capitalism will create fascism again and again, and that's an unacceptable truth for most scholars
It's true
You are not making any sense whatsoever. Capit alism has nothing to do with either fas cism or nazi sm. On the contrary, both ideologies opposed it, and also international soci alism, hence the concept of a “third way,” their centralized economic policies obeyed coll ectivist and so cialist principles, openly opposing capi talism and the free market, favoring nat ionalism and autarchy.
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. Nah Capitalism has always lead to Fascism lmao
@@Historia.Magistra.Vitae. okay, if what You said is true, and the facist principle of autarchy at all costs is NOT capitalistic, and if they followed ideals of collectivism, then surely, the nazis would be opposed by the capitalist elites, right? I'd say if you're correct, then the great corporations of pre-nazi Germany would be hurt, or maybe even colectivized outright by the state, do you agree with that line of thinking?
@@Tsuruchi_420 _"then surely, the na zis would be opposed by the capitalist elites, right?"_
And they were. German businesses did not initially support the National Socia lists and always had a contentious relationship with the Party. N azis issued quotas for industries and farms and later reorganized all industries into corporations run by members of the Na zi Party.
Thank you for this analysis! Interesting comparison you made at the end, with 1980s Japan. I can definitely see your point, but when I watched the movie, I didn't see the hotel and the bar as symbols of decadence ; it's not exaggerated enough in my opinion. Some scenes of Spirited Away, for example, made me feel that way. Here, it's more like they managed to preserve this little corner of the Adriatic untouched from the troubles stirring on the continent.