Just the type of video I was looking for! I've had the Maschine + for a bit over a year now and still have some issues when trying to pick the best way to export the ideas into Ableton.
Thanks man, awesome tutorial, I have never thought of losing group effects is part of extracting on sounds level. Otherwise I do it like you and I find it very annoying. I love starting projects in Maschine, but when they turn out well, I am dreading that converting to Ableton part and I wished I had started in Ableton. But Maschine is way more fun except that last step. I hope Native allows their engineers to turn it more into a DAW for the arrangement step. And I miss the warping capabilities for audio. Then it would be perfect.
I have worked on many projects with the Maschine MK3. Love it, got the Jam and the KK2, these 3 together make a powerful combo. Anyway, my main daw is Protools. One simple thing NI should implement in both their sketches and arrangements view is a proper MUTE function. Not being able to mute and unmute MIDI clips and/or midi notes is really counter intuitive.
Thanks for this video. I think this all depends on what your workflow is. Personally I use Maschine’s arranger all of the time because it is super flexible and fast. I often work in a very iterative way where I try things out and change them until I feel the whole song works. The Maschine arranger allows me to try out different song arrangement structures and add or edit patterns in a full song context. And the big advantage is that everything is reversible: you can just change patterns/sections/scenes for ever until the composition lands in the desired spot. Sometimes, I convert a few patterns to clips, so I can edit some of the MIDI such astransitions between song parts. After that, I start tweaking the instruments/sounds/fx, and then I go back to some of the clips until I am happy. I do agree that the final mixing and mastering isn’t that easy in Maschine. My main use of clips is when I start from full song length audio, like a guitar track and/or vocals. I record these directly into the Audio module and play them in a clip created in the arranger. Other instruments like drums, bass, keys are then added also in clips.
@@LowHeatBeatsit's a really fun way to create. But the arranger/song mode is ass, and much more rudimentary than Maschine for sure. It's more like MPC (I think, never used one), where you can chain your scenes/patters and that's pretty much it. idk tf that other guy is on about; the "flexibility of arranging with a mouse" in Studio pretty much comes down to dragging your patterns into a single master track.
Same workflow 👊 I've committed to stop using kits since the processing on Groups is lost when you just want the sounds\stems. Now I will manually process my Drums at sounds so I don't loose punch etc.
I do exactly what you do for FL Studio but your exporting is wild; I don't have the issues you have. I just take the time to make the draft arrangement and I get all my sounds, effects and changes in one long track for each instrument when I export the audio by group, not as tedious separate scenes.
But I'm kinda doing the same thing that you're doing, maybe you didn't watch the whole video and missed that part? I just don't develop the arrangement too much in Maschine, but otherwise, I export one long track for each group like you do.
Great video buddy! thanks a lot. I'm learning how to use the mk3 and the maschine software and I'm just curious, how did you connect it to that midi keyboard?
Hey bro, thanx for another cool video about maschine. I use and love maschine since 2018. I consider myself more of a composer than a beatmaker. Anyways, a few months ago I decided to move to Ableton, but I find it so hard to integrate or even have a maschine-live11 workflow. I also got the push 3, and it’s super cool too, but i find it super slow to browse the sounds I want in comparison to Native Instruments great database of that makes sense. Would you share other kind of workflow options between these two great platforms? Thanks in advance, Greetings from Mexico City ! And happy holidays 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks! I will think about more tips for integrating them and make another vid if I come up with something useful. The thing is there are many ways to integrate them but most of them are more trouble than it's worth it. Except for this simple method I showed in the video. Happy holidays to you too!
This might just be what puts me over the edge to make that purchase of Ableton. I know that you can work with maschine to do a lot of what you demonstrated here but honestly it just brings your workflow to a screeching halt when you have to make so many copies of sounds or resample from the master. Maschine is really great just not always super intuitive.
For sure, can't go wrong with getting Ableton Live. You will still have to put in some time and effort to learn it but I feel it's worth it for how fast and easy you can work with it.
Hi mate, can you not just run the Machine mk3 Audio output cables into a Focusrite or other audio interface then the machine audio is fed into an audio track in Ableton Live?
Sure, you can do that but it's much faster and easier to export the audio tracks internally than recordng them in real time with an audio interface. You can also drag and drop directly into Live from Maschine if the method I'm showing in the video isn't suitable for your workflow.
@LowHeatBeats Hey thanks brother, the drag and drop option into Ableton sounds good for me, I didn't know you could do that. I have the MPC ONE bug to be honest I find it a pain to work with, takes too long. But I've seen the Machine Mk3 second hand for £250.00 and I'm tempted to buy it. But I run all of my gear through a 24 channel mixer into my Focusrite into Daw, and I'm not familiar with Machine and it's workings at all.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 If buying second hand make sure the seller transfers the Maschine software to you as well, otherwise you have to buy it separately from NI.
Oof... this looks a bit painful. Glad I opted to not get a Maschine/+. I picked up a nice cheap Nektar Aura, but want to sell it now, to help pay for my next toy - not sure if I am going to get a Push3 or wait and see if Novation rolls out with an SL MKIV @ NAMM in January. Time will tell. Mind you, I am perfectly happy with my cheap NI A49 keyboard.
Sure, a cheap MIDI keyboard is all you need tbh. I’m not sure Novation and other similar companies will be at NAMM at all, they weren’t at the last one.
Great video, thank you very much! Too bad there is not yet a better integration of Maschine directly into Ableton, there could be a dedicated basic template in Ableton...
Yeah, I use Maschine software separately, I never use it as a plugin. I have a recent video with mixing tips if that's what you're looking for. Not sure if that's what you were asking.
@@LowHeatBeatsthanks for letting me know man. No you answered my question. I was just curious if you used maschine software or plugin within daw. Do you just export stems for mixing to ableton? Or do you do most of your mixing right in maschine?
@@joeymc5272 Yeah, I export them to Ableton like I showed in the video. I just create the musical ideas in Maschine and mixing and arranging is done in Ableton.
You can, I'm showing what is to me the fastest, easiest and most efficient way to do it. Loading it as a plugin and setting up the routing to track it is way too much work.
Sure, I do everything in Ableton most of the time too. But sometimes I want to switch up to a more tactile workflow and that's where Maschine comes it and it's really good for this, better than Push for me.
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When you put a chord on a beat with chops it was amazing and warm groovy =) Awesome mate! Big up
Thanks man, glad you liked the beat!
Thanks you! I have this exact setup Machine MK3 + MK3 Keyboard -- Machine + Live 11 🎉
Keep sharing your knowledge! Much appreciated!
Thank you so much for the support!
Just the type of video I was looking for! I've had the Maschine + for a bit over a year now and still have some issues when trying to pick the best way to export the ideas into Ableton.
Awesomr, right video at the right time! Appreciate you watching.
Thanks man, awesome tutorial, I have never thought of losing group effects is part of extracting on sounds level. Otherwise I do it like you and I find it very annoying. I love starting projects in Maschine, but when they turn out well, I am dreading that converting to Ableton part and I wished I had started in Ableton. But Maschine is way more fun except that last step. I hope Native allows their engineers to turn it more into a DAW for the arrangement step. And I miss the warping capabilities for audio. Then it would be perfect.
Yeah, if it can become a DAW without sacrificing the quick workflow for starting tracks, that would be great. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I have worked on many projects with the Maschine MK3. Love it, got the Jam and the KK2, these 3 together make a powerful combo.
Anyway, my main daw is Protools.
One simple thing NI should implement in both their sketches and arrangements view is a proper MUTE function. Not being able to mute and unmute MIDI clips and/or midi notes is really counter intuitive.
Good point, let's hope we get this in 2024.
Thanks for this video. I think this all depends on what your workflow is.
Personally I use Maschine’s arranger all of the time because it is super flexible and fast.
I often work in a very iterative way where I try things out and change them until I feel the whole song works. The Maschine arranger allows me to try out different song arrangement structures and add or edit patterns in a full song context. And the big advantage is that everything is reversible: you can just change patterns/sections/scenes for ever until the composition lands in the desired spot. Sometimes, I convert a few patterns to clips, so I can edit some of the MIDI such astransitions between song parts. After that, I start tweaking the instruments/sounds/fx, and then I go back to some of the clips until I am happy. I do agree that the final mixing and mastering isn’t that easy in Maschine.
My main use of clips is when I start from full song length audio, like a guitar track and/or vocals. I record these directly into the Audio module and play them in a clip created in the arranger. Other instruments like drums, bass, keys are then added also in clips.
Yeah, sure, if it works for you it’s totally useable.
It's probably why I switched to Serato Studio. It gives me the Maschine speed and flexibility of arranging with a mouse
While I don't see myself switching to it, I've always wanted to try it, so thanks for reminding me.
@@LowHeatBeatsit's a really fun way to create. But the arranger/song mode is ass, and much more rudimentary than Maschine for sure. It's more like MPC (I think, never used one), where you can chain your scenes/patters and that's pretty much it. idk tf that other guy is on about; the "flexibility of arranging with a mouse" in Studio pretty much comes down to dragging your patterns into a single master track.
Same workflow 👊 I've committed to stop using kits since the processing on Groups is lost when you just want the sounds\stems. Now I will manually process my Drums at sounds so I don't loose punch etc.
Yup, totally makes sens to do that
I do exactly what you do for FL Studio but your exporting is wild; I don't have the issues you have. I just take the time to make the draft arrangement and I get all my sounds, effects and changes in one long track for each instrument when I export the audio by group, not as tedious separate scenes.
But I'm kinda doing the same thing that you're doing, maybe you didn't watch the whole video and missed that part? I just don't develop the arrangement too much in Maschine, but otherwise, I export one long track for each group like you do.
Great video buddy! thanks a lot. I'm learning how to use the mk3 and the maschine software and I'm just curious, how did you connect it to that midi keyboard?
Glad you enjoyed the video! You just connect the keyboard to your computer and enable it from Maschine software’s midi settings.
@@LowHeatBeats thanks legend! 🫶🏼
Hey bro, thanx for another cool video about maschine. I use and love maschine since 2018. I consider myself more of a composer than a beatmaker. Anyways, a few months ago I decided to move to Ableton, but I find it so hard to integrate or even have a maschine-live11 workflow. I also got the push 3, and it’s super cool too, but i find it super slow to browse the sounds I want in comparison to Native Instruments great database of that makes sense. Would you share other kind of workflow options between these two great platforms? Thanks in advance,
Greetings from Mexico City ! And happy holidays 👊🏻👊🏻
Thanks! I will think about more tips for integrating them and make another vid if I come up with something useful. The thing is there are many ways to integrate them but most of them are more trouble than it's worth it. Except for this simple method I showed in the video. Happy holidays to you too!
@@LowHeatBeats that’s exactly how I feel about other ways like routing it and stuff. Looking forward to watch more of your content bro 😎
Thanks for the vid 🎉
My pleasure!
This might just be what puts me over the edge to make that purchase of Ableton. I know that you can work with maschine to do a lot of what you demonstrated here but honestly it just brings your workflow to a screeching halt when you have to make so many copies of sounds or resample from the master. Maschine is really great just not always super intuitive.
For sure, can't go wrong with getting Ableton Live. You will still have to put in some time and effort to learn it but I feel it's worth it for how fast and easy you can work with it.
@LowHeatBeats is one of the Maschine Masters , iMO
Thanks, Klayton!
thanks, useful video
Appreciate you watching
Thank you.
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Hi mate, can you not just run the Machine mk3 Audio output cables into a Focusrite or other audio interface then the machine audio is fed into an audio track in Ableton Live?
Sure, you can do that but it's much faster and easier to export the audio tracks internally than recordng them in real time with an audio interface. You can also drag and drop directly into Live from Maschine if the method I'm showing in the video isn't suitable for your workflow.
@LowHeatBeats Hey thanks brother, the drag and drop option into Ableton sounds good for me, I didn't know you could do that.
I have the MPC ONE bug to be honest I find it a pain to work with, takes too long.
But I've seen the Machine Mk3 second hand for £250.00 and I'm tempted to buy it.
But I run all of my gear through a 24 channel mixer into my Focusrite into Daw, and I'm not familiar with Machine and it's workings at all.
@@maydaygoingdown5602 If buying second hand make sure the seller transfers the Maschine software to you as well, otherwise you have to buy it separately from NI.
Oof... this looks a bit painful. Glad I opted to not get a Maschine/+. I picked up a nice cheap Nektar Aura, but want to sell it now, to help pay for my next toy - not sure if I am going to get a Push3 or wait and see if Novation rolls out with an SL MKIV @ NAMM in January. Time will tell. Mind you, I am perfectly happy with my cheap NI A49 keyboard.
Sure, a cheap MIDI keyboard is all you need tbh. I’m not sure Novation and other similar companies will be at NAMM at all, they weren’t at the last one.
@@LowHeatBeats I’ve been hearing rumors of an SL MKIV controller
Great video, thank you very much! Too bad there is not yet a better integration of Maschine directly into Ableton, there could be a dedicated basic template in Ableton...
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey man do you work in maschine software outside of ableton or do you just use the software as a plugin? Curious how you mix man.
Yeah, I use Maschine software separately, I never use it as a plugin. I have a recent video with mixing tips if that's what you're looking for. Not sure if that's what you were asking.
@@LowHeatBeatsthanks for letting me know man. No you answered my question. I was just curious if you used maschine software or plugin within daw. Do you just export stems for mixing to ableton? Or do you do most of your mixing right in maschine?
@@joeymc5272 Yeah, I export them to Ableton like I showed in the video. I just create the musical ideas in Maschine and mixing and arranging is done in Ableton.
Oh right lol thanks man. Appreciate it. I saw the video a while back. Ill watch it again. Ever since i got push 3 i have been hooked on it.
If i could figure out how to export Maschine files to BandLab, i would use both a lot more
Should be the same process
I had some trouble getting into the Discord, ill have to try with my other phone 📱
Glad you made it
I don’t use the arranger either. I export to logic.
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Maschine support drag n drop for audio and midi
I did mention it in the video - it's not the fastest method to export a lot of patterns.
Can’t you just track into AL and just export the midi to wave? Use the Machine as a plugin!!! Just a thought 🤷🏽♂️
You can, I'm showing what is to me the fastest, easiest and most efficient way to do it. Loading it as a plugin and setting up the routing to track it is way too much work.
I own machine but i dont know for what i should use it for. Doing everything in ableton is much more convenient. Machine can do nothing ableton cant
Sure, I do everything in Ableton most of the time too. But sometimes I want to switch up to a more tactile workflow and that's where Maschine comes it and it's really good for this, better than Push for me.
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