@@ianclark9198 I agree that it is a fake skit that the couple filmed, but they are absolutely in an open relationship, and are making content based on it to raise awareness or let other people know how it works, or how great it is (in their opinion obviously). The man filming is probably the husband, and he is just pretending to be an outside partner for the video like you suggest. There are a million ways to gain clicks online which don't involve plastering your faces on the internet as the 'open relationship couple from tik tok'. Tik tok doesn't even give people any real income at all, so I would be willing to bet that their motivation is the typical oversharing of personal lives for social media, rather than fabricating their story for fame or money.
In my opinion the reason why these radicalized child like "women" feel justified in doing immoral stuff or just straight up don't care about the Morality of the situation is because as we know women are the child-bearers and thus the physically weaker half of the species since their skinn and muscles are design to be soft and elastic for when they get pregnant. This factor is what gives them an internal need to want the men to "protect and provide" for them, which is what they are design to do by nature (stronger muscles, willingness to take risks, logical and abstract thinking for "what if" situations, etc.). This is why most venusians don't think or seem to even care about Logic, Morality and the consequences of not staying inline whith either. They are naturally designed to mainly focus, care and think about the material/physical, their material needs, material desires, etc. in the here and now. This is because by extension it will lead them to focus on the material well beign of their future child, who they (women) will be naturally attached to because of their genetic, and by extension, their emotional bond. Abstract ideas like Morality, Logic, "karma" and things like philosophies bearly passes through the minds of these conditioned women, since normally it would be something left for their fathers and husbands to be in charged of and decide on and normally they, the daughters and wives, would trust their judgements and decisions on such matters; that is when they themselves don't want to take the time or responsibility of doing them themselves if they even could or want to. However now a days they base their views on what's right/Moral and wrong/immoral on what is allowed and dictated by the ruling class, making it an artificial substitute for fathers and husbands, or on what is collectively considered ok by the masses (public opinion), wich is mostly based on what is propagated by the ruling class/state through their media. There's also the fact that for women with a narcissistic and predatory mindset it makes them feel special and important having the men be screwed and seen as bad since it gives them a (false) sense of "moral" superiority just for being of the other sx without actually having done anything to earn it. The worst part is when they relish and enjoy men's suffering and going through problems to the point that they need to see them suffer and be ignored because it makes them feel even more superior for just being woman due to the narcissistic and above all predatory mentality they've been conditioned to have, especially when they themselves were the cause of said man's suffering. The worst thing about this is that women only feel justified doing immoral crap like that because they are at the moment backed and protected by the ruling class/state. The ruling class is for the moment allowing this behavior because it allows for the demoralization and de-franchizing of men becuase men are the biggest treath and competition for the state due to them being naturally design to care about things like Freedom, Morality and Independence, things the state doesn't want and can't tolerate. Once this is done the state will turn on them and there will be no men left or willing to defend them.
He should NEVER get back with her... Less stress .. It's all about FEELINGS with them. They don't think the same as men. They see things through a different lens...
Sadia Khan nailed it: “We’ve raised a generation of narcissistic women and convinced them that the narcissism is feminism.” How dare you have boundaries? How dare you not just accept anything and everything that I feel the impulse to do? How dare you ask me to behave like an adult? The lack of any emotion from that woman early in the video is just disturbing. I get real sociopath vibes from her.
You forgot the most important thing- anyone who slightly disagrees with a narcissistic woman is labeled a narcissist. According to my data collected from women- every man on the earth is a narcissist -_-
@@Seldomheardabout That’s the primary character defense of a narcissist: projection. They accuse you of being what they are, and doing what they are doing. Then attack you for it so they can avoid facing how little they truly think of themselves. It’s like watching a pufferfish blow itself up. It doesn’t do it because it’s feeling confident, it does it when it’s scared.
@@kellygreenii and I’m not a psych buff anymore, but I always assumed that projection is a work around for someone to criticize themselves because they never learned or were traumatized from something.
@@andersnielsen6044 umm, because that is implicit in the social construct of marriage. The man provides and protects, the woman gives the man children and keeps the home. Now that has shifted since women entered the workplace and the sexual revolution, but even now men provide 2/3 of the income, on average (because of female hypergamy, not because of any supposed income gap.)
@mindmagicstudio7000 we've all heard the saying 'why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free,' the guy in an open marriage is buying the cow but not getting any milk!!!!
@@andersnielsen6044 so what would you call it if your at home paying for the house, the car, the phones, the electric etc and she’s out having fun with another guys who DOESNT have to pay for that stuff? That’s called one guy getting everything for free and the other paying for everything and getting the scraps (if that) of what used to be his relationship.
No one can ruin a relationship faster than her female friends. They care more about the opinion of her girlfriends than her boyfriend or husband. Which makes no sense if you are trying to build a life with someone. I guess misery loves company.
Open relationship is an oxymoron. It is not a relationship. It’s just people who want sleep around while bizarrely pretending they are in a relationship. It makes no sense.
Indeed. The "I want the benefits of being single but also those of a relationship, if I feel like it" problem. Compromise? Nah, I deserve better cause I breath.
Used to absolutely love and adore women but after 10ish years of dating I grew completely cold. there was not a single time when a woman was straight up and honest with me. always playing games, always scheming behind my back. it gives me comfort knowing I was not just unlucky, women are actually like this and many other men go through similar experiences I have. I do not put them on a pedestal anymore or treat them as members of a "protected social class". also quitting dating was easily one of the best choices of my life... I can save more money, I'm way more efficient with my time, and my life is overall less stressful.
I hear you. At the point where if a woman is not sick of female friends and their gossip and backstabbing and everything else that is negative while spoken with smiley faces, then they are not ready for a relationship with a man. The same applies to men and bad friends but we do have more options in that regard even if we count them with one hand.
@iamnorkore228 I agree completely, I also left a comment just like yours a few minutes ago, before I saw yours. "We must stay focused bro" and take time to love ourselves ❤
@ogbmt haha what a funny comment 😂👍 glad to read that you have Riz and many dating skills. Great for you, but please don't put down others like you do, thanks 🙏
When a woman says she wants an open marriage, she is basically saying this: She wants a "nice" guy to provide a home, a car, and food on the table, but wants her sex from a Chad who she knows won't provide any of that. Example, look what happened to Will Smith.
@@JamespwickstromwMy wife has a few female friends. She sees them very rarely and only talks to them every now and then. She hates women. She hates men. She hates children. But she loves me and our son and that, truly, is all that matters to me.
@@Carmen-99I’ve met tons of people who do this. Most stories where all the same. The couple had built a life and had kids but couldn’t stay faithful to each other. So instead of splitting they just “open” the relationship. It’s a joke.
Having been raised in the relative proximity of godless hippies I’ve encountered numerous degenerates/free thinkers. And all of them have been unfortunate. Genetic examples of humanity. Additionally, morally, bankrupt, individuals, alleged individuals, mostly group, think, automatons. Merely the spark of the divine resides with us all the outward expression is our own🍀
This dumb California fashion “relationship” is a consistent train wreck, with the wreckage of families and countless hollow jaded people strewn about along its path.
The moment she brings up the subject in a non-joking way, your marriage/relationship is over. She either is already sleeping with someone or knows who she is about to sleep with. Say you’re not comfortable with it and the conversation cordially and then hire the biggest shark of a divorce attorney you can find
The ready answer is, "Let me think about it a bit". Because whatever you thought you had is GONE. Begin an asset moving plan, and interviewing all the best divorce lawyers near and keep the receipts so she can't use any of them. Moving money offshore is pretty foolproof now also. If there are kids involved YOU are their best protection. Look to custody winning Fam. court atty's too. Mine took a cash settlement and a really high taxed chalet. It did not work out well for her. I took 2 wks vacation and she never knew it. Had time to hire a good P. Investigator even.(busted) I still care for the woman, but I wasn't built with a ''reverse'' gear. My new gal seems happy tho.
The response to know whether she REALLY wants an open relationship is when she brings it up, you get excited and say "That's a great idea! Ive got 3 women who've been trying to get with me for awhile now." Her response will tell you what she really wants.
The Secret Brotherhood of Man won't like that your exposing our strategies....but now that is here: men of culture, use the homie's "response" execution and you'll have a 99% chance of exposing an undercover ho, lol.
she might not care at all if you have 3 women lined up. she just wants you to keep paying the bills until she monkey branches. so... as soon as she dare mentions an open relationship you kick her to the curb immediately or if you're married you get a lawyer and start securing all your assets before handing over the divorce papers the day after she spends the night with Chad.
@@GrifterUno Uhhh, so she's a "ho" if she responds favorably to the response? It sorta feels like there's some weird mental ju-jitsu going on here. Lol So thankful I don't have to play games with my wife like that.
@@ronh1850 Yeah, I got three naive friends like you. One is homeless, the other two are single by choice after "not having to play games with their significant others" ended up badly for them. Wish you luck but I'll just play it safe, just in case, lol
@@GrifterUno Thanks for your concern. However, consider these 3 things: 1) My SO is n=1 so she has no relationship baggage/trauma at all. Zero, zilch, Nada. Other than our typical relationship squabble. 2) Although I met her in college, she's from a different culture (SE Asia) with healthy family and peer pressures. Expectations to be a lady (rough translation), and morality is a big deal. 3) She's been with me for 30 years. We've had our ups and downs, but now as fresh empty nesters it's like when we first dated which is awesome. So far, so good. There are no guarantees in life, but I think her and I have a good shot to go the distance. Some of what you're calling 'game playing' may just be differences in how men and women think and act. I'm sorry you seem to be so jaded. There really are decent women out there. Although they're rarer and get taken off the dating market fast and early, usually for good. Maybe try checking out women from different parts of the world if you're not having luck where you are.
I can’t imagine even telling a girl “no” if she asks for an open relationship. It’s just over at that point. Even asking is a complete breach of trust that I don’t think I’d ever regain.
True. But since it would be over anyway when she asks, I'd like men to say to their girlfriends, "you can sleep with the dude but only after I slept with a woman first". Really wonder what the females' reactions would be.
Yup. Its over right there when the question is popped. A lot of people dont seem to understand that relationships are all built on trust. When i go to work, my boss trusts that i do a decent job. I trust he will pay me. When i go out with a friend, i trust he is on my side when trouble for some reason comes on our path. Its vice versa for him. When i drive on the road, i trust traffic coming from opposite lane does not swirv into my lane. When someone does, that trust is gone. When i am in a marriage, or relationship, i trust sex is exclusively for me and she can expect the same. As soon as that question is popped, the trust contract is broken. And with that the relationship is over. I made the mistake once, to accept it. Because i was still deeply in love. It ended anyway soon after, but by then It f'd me up so bad, sex has never been the same since. It basically broke me. Thats close to 25 years ago. I dont want to get into details.
I've been married a few times and have been cheated on every time. From this, I can tell you that being single now is the best I have ever been in my life. Zero stress and drama and the disposable income I have is crazy. Food and gas prices don't even bother me because everything is payed for. If a girl cheats on you, look at it positively. Get rid of her and start really living. Life is too short to have a leech pulling you down all the time.
@@MultiBannanaSHITTTT Of course family is important just as carrying on your genes to the next generation. Remember, your thoughts on this are only half of this plan. Modern women can not see past their nose so it is up to men to adapt. Get married and have kids if you need to, but know the risks. If I knew this when I was younger, I would never have gotten married. It wasn't even close to worth it.
@@daveunderwood6498 I still believe women from other cultures still make it worth trying. Just don’t bring them to the sick west or they become tainted too quickly. However I completely agree with you, marriage with a western woman is 9/10 not worth it.
@daveunderwood6498 Get a prenup if you want to go the marriage and kids route. Make it perfectly fair in that it never mentions husband or wife, only spouse, so it can not be considered one-sided. The biggest help a prenup gives is not fairness in divorce, it's weeding out those with plans of cheating after marriage!!
@@davidjones8942 I've heard a half a dozen stories where prenups are not worth the paper they are written on. Maybe it depends where you live? It's worth checking out.
At least 50% of women who have shown strong interest in me, already had boyfriends. The number I think is between 60-80%, but it’s difficult to come up with an accurate estimate because many of them are not up-front about it, or are in some sort of ambiguous ‘situationship’ in which neither person knows their arse from their elbow. I am low-balling it when I say 50%. The much younger ones (18-23) actually tend to be better. They still tend to more often have stronger morals. But they often choose the wrong guys due to their inexperience, get jaded and frustrated with men, and then between ages of 22 (when they leave college) to 30-ish are more often into the casual dating scene, monkey branching, so forth. Young people make poor choices. We used to rely on our families to assist with these things. Now we don’t. Alex made a different great video about this. This is the root of many issues.
@@animal0mother That is somewhat true, but usually not for me. I will know, because I don't rush women who I like into bed. I take time to get to know her. Usually within a matter of weeks once she feels more at ease, she will slip up and drop a hint if she has a boyfriend, or one of her friends will. Occasionally they also are upfront about it and just straight up say, "I'm going back to my boyfriends' apartment" on our first meet. This is more normal in big cities like London where I live. Or it isn't difficult at all to deduce from their social media, if their facebook status says "in a relationship" and there's lots of photos of them together. Or sometimes I will protract the 'talking' phase so long that we effectively end up "friend zoning" one another, after which I find out that she had a boyfriend the whole time. This happens because until I am given very specific and tangible reasons to trust someone, I will not. That can take a long time with some people, and with others (such as these kinds of women) we never even get there. I would call them 'acquaintances' at best, not even friends. Hanging out for drinks in a group occasionally is ok, but I don't have anywhere near enough in common with them to maintain a 1-on-1 conversation or invite them for Christmas or New Years' for instance. Those are the 50% of women that I am *positive* about having a boyfriend. Then the more ambiguous 60-80% threshold are those that hide it much better or don't even know themselves if they're in a relationship or not.
I’ve had sooo many female married friends express explicit sexual interest in me. With precise words too! I have too much integrity to consider it. It also makes me step back from our friendship. Now, if both her and her husband ask me, that’s an exciting proposition!
@@aaronsinspirationdaily4896 Most of these polyamorous / open relationships end badly. Even if both asked me and everything was 'above board', I'd still be uncomfortable doing it with most people. There are only *two* people I know currently whom I respect deeply enough as individuals and as a relationship, whom I would hypothetically consider this with, as I would think there'd be very little risk of emotional games, drama, or them breaking up because of it.
Yes, the nuclear family is currently being touted as the greatest thing by the more "conservative" folks. But the nuclear family is really just the last (and weakest) holdover from days past...when communities/tribes/extended families existed. Without wise, intelligent, and well respected elder females leading and guiding younger females, you'll just have the blind leading the blind.
This chick just confirmed 2 things that we have always known. 1. Girl's night out is not innocent fun. 2. They knowingly and willingly share the same dude if they think he's high status enough. Bottom line: if you aren't/can't be the dude that they're all sharing in 2023/2024, DO NOT be their safety net. No relationships. No dates. No financial investment. No attention. Nothing. It's a simple question you must ask yourself: "Am I the guy out here spinning numerous plates?" If the answer is yes, carry on. If the answer is no, you must not invest anything in to any individual female alone. You're either spinning plates/trying to spin plates, or you're in monk mode. Middle of the road here in this situation gets you run over. It sounds extreme, but we are living in extreme times out here. Good luck, gentlemen.
"girls dancing night"... Doesn't it show why wamen want's so much to go to clubs with her girls even when in a relationship? This seems such an opportunist mindset to have all the options with many men. Guys, just keep clear from such wamen...
Yes, there are a million things you can do with female friends -- dance, crafts, scrapbooking, kids activities, games, watching old movies, etc. Even if you wanted to drink... you could do that at someone else's place. It's it funny, despite all those, they want to do activities where there are other men and alcohol? That's the final sign of cheating or at least disrespect. Clubs with the girls, after work drinks with coworkers, trip with the girls to have drinks on the beach, school reunion, etc., etc. Alcohol + places where men are = cheating, loss of trust, and disrespect.
Yep especially since clubs aren't really fun places to be unless you like to be sxually assaulted. Loud music, bunch of a-holes everywhere. Creeps groping people who they don't even know. Why would any woman want to go to such place unless they are into being treated like trash is beyond me?
The enigma of feminine desire. As men, I don't think we can truly understand it. Even if we are confronted with it, we don't want to believe it. We can never "have" them. Their fantasies are too potent and visceral. They are at the root of their hypergamy and seemingly better ability to move on from relationships.
Laughing so hard at Will Smith because of you know... Jada Pinkett. 😂😂😂 No guy should ever agree to an "open" relationship, married or not. Just so disrespectful, and reprehensible.
See, this is what deters me the most from seeking relationships. It's not enough to find a high quality woman whose goals and values align with yours, but you also want to make sure her friends are as good as her. Do you risk getting in a relationship with a woman where it's a possibility that her friends are snakes? What's one to do?
i think in this case a woman won't act distant from her partner unless she already had some kind of intimacy with anozther man, its like a subconscious expression of conscience.
"People who want to have affairs but lack the decency to feel ashamed about it" Wow that is the most concise explanation of an open relationship I've ever heard.
When she pulled back, it means she was sleeping with the other guy. A woman cannot be really intimate with two people at the same time. If she goes to someone else, intimacy with her man dies instantly.
Absolutely stunning!! What a relief it is to hear these kinds of stories. Of course it's terrible for this guy but feeling that you're not alone in experiencing this kind of thing is very comforting, it helps to heal the wounds of the heart and it helps to calm down. It's sad that we can no longer trust women but at least this way of opening our eyes will protect us financially and emotionally. Good luck guys and stay strong ❤️
In my 30’s I took many trip down south all by myself, the stuff I saw and was offered made me doubt female loyalty. Now that men are sharing their stories, our collective eyes are opening. Young guys are lucky to have this information available. Women love to be loved, they are not in love with you. A better deal comes by and your are forgotten in a heartbeat. We are built differently.
I guess this guy is lucky, in that he isn't married to her, has kids with her, and a mortgage shared with her. Deciding what to do in this case when children are involved, and the possible financial difficulties involved, to work it out, just up and leave, or have her leave, yeah, this guy had it easier than other guys out there.
In a serious committed relationship there should be two universal unspoken rules to protect the relationship 1. No friends of the opposite sex 2. No girls/boys night out
@@10TallDwarves Buddy, use some critical thinking and don't just repeat some generic "gotcha" phrase, because it's not really a gotcha. You want it analyzed, lets go. If someone is Bisexual, the friend would also need to be bisexual for it to be a concern. If the friend isn't bisexual, then it's no different than any other type of relationship of the same sex. Attraction cannot exist between both people involved. Even if both were bisexual and attraction does have the potential to exist, straight relationships are different from same sex relationships. They have different issues and concerns and how they function. So it's pointless to compare both and act as if they will have the same dynamics. They don't. For most people though, they are talking about straight relationships and how they function. There. Now your question to this is answered.
@@EntertheFray1you are partially right, I just disagree with the premise entirely. But hey, each person live their life how they see fit. If you are ok controlling your partners friend group and ok being controlled in same fashion… go for it. I just think it’s ridiculous to completely dismiss any relations with opposite sex. That’s not a life I would be willing to live or impose on my spouse.
Is this 'open relationship' thing something that women typically initiate? I don't think I've ever heard a story where the guy is the one to suggest this.
It's because, for some psychological reason, women don't want to hold themselves to any type of Moral and Logical standards, in this case the standards of being a good and faithful girlfriend and wife. The idea of fully committing to something is almost alien and borderline horrific for them because they just want do drift in life going only on their emotions and just feeling things through like driftwood on the open sea. Having to use logic and a moral compass is like planting yourself in the dry land were you have to take responsibility for your own life through proper thought and action.
@agm5424 I can't imagine going through life without accountability and morals. I don't understand how anyone can respect themselves if they don't hold themselves to a standard. Maybe these type of people are just delusional and that's how they do it.
Alex, your outburst at the end there might just be the best thing I've ever seen on this channel 😂. This guy reminds me of me. I was cheated on and I didn't see it coming and didn't want to believe it until it was too late, but with hindsight it was blindingly obvious what was happening. I wish someone had shouted at me like that for believing the lies.
I am traditional…. But after experiencing how cold and cunning modern women are, I can’t see myself commiting again. Why would I when it’s not mutual? They are constantly trying to level up.
In societies where women have freedom to do what they want there will be women who are like this. But it’s the minority of women who want this. That’s not a valid excuse to not get into a relationship with a woman.
@@orangehair2518 I didn’t say not to get in a relationship. I said to not commit, that way we can split ties at a moments notice. It wouldn’t be my choice, but I’ve been fooled once already and I’m not going to take the risk again - it’s not worth it.
Michael's wife here. This truly is disgusting and these women are harming themselves more than they know. The psychological literature is clear that by being promiscuous women literally damage their ability to fully bond with their mates (and, I believe, with their children as well). They tell their bonding hormones to shut off, thereby decreasing the heartache but only into a state of numbness where, ultimately, no bonding can take place. It's been quite a while since I've actually looked at the research, so I may not be entirely correct, but that's the message I got and I'm so grateful that I learned that early enough to take heed. Women: Don't do this to yourselves. Men: Don't tolerate this. God bless you all.
Unfortunately it's 99% of women nowadays, who don't have the capacity to override the basic instinct of hypergamy. It served us well in the previous eons, however it is not useful in the modern society.
I was pressured by an ex bf into an open relationship. It was horrible. He had talked about it from the start - we should've obviously have parted ways, but we were emotionally co-dependent of one another. It took couple of years before I cracked under his pressuring; it took him only couple of his affairs to realise that the extra sex wasn't worth the drama. We were together for couple of years after that, before being able to grow out of that dysfunctional relationship.
Omg as a woman I am SO embarrassed by this horrible behavior. Thank goodness I am not single and got the heck out of the dating scene when I did. I was raised the traditional way in the Christian church and I am SO glad that my parents made me learn and understand the Bible and the moral covenant. Please remain hopeful gentlemen, because there are plenty of traditional women out there in traditional, loving, life committed relationships raising traditional and moral children and families. We are out there and we do exist. Love your channel btw.
If she doesn't tell her husband who she is sleeping with, then it's a lie that her marriage is open lol open marriage is basically room mates who are fvck buddies occasionally but the guy has to provide for everything and don't get any play unless he's handsome or famous.
It's spreading, you'll see similar stories in the bigger cities in non western nations too. They portray this behavior as empowering on social media and so women everywhere are doing the same.
These women once they have you can get you to do so much. My buddy’s gf said they should open their relationship, claimed she would give him threesome etc. he told me and I told him “no that’s her admitting to cheating but doesn’t want to feel bad about it” he told her no but didn’t believe me. Until one of his friends saw her and the guy together at a bar.
I actually proposed an open relationship to my narcissistic ex as a solution to her withholding sex from me and trying to manipulate me. She didn’t like that AT ALL. I was taking away her weapon she used against me and also demonstrating my complete security in myself. I mean, if she didn’t want sexual intimacy with me, but wanted me to stay in the relationship and put up with her rubbish manipulations? Seems fair that I get my needs met elsewhere. Took all her imaginary power over me away. I ended up leaving and going no contact. It’s the only rational choice with women like that. She’s back with her ex that was “just a friend” 😂
Actually her running to all their mutual friends was a good thing. Caused every one to come out and show their true colours. Cut off all the ones who sided with her. If they start judging without even getting your side then they are not worth the time
It seems a new generation of men must discover the darkness of women that older generations already knew. Something have been lost. I recommend watching old film noir movies, they are often not far of the truth. Start maybe with High Sierra (Bogart) and The killing (Sterling Hayden) and Sunset Blvd (Holden) to get both some (great but flawed) male role models and see the darkness of women.
That's what I keep saying but people of certain generations won't watch black and white movies. Asphalt Jungle, that's a freakin gold mine. Noir nite is big for me if there's not a game on.
@@malcolmapplet4313 Awesome to hear from a like-minded! Asphalt jungle (Sterling Hayden again) is a fantastic movie! Yeah agreed black and white might have a negative impact. Also I fear the cinema aspect ratio of about 4:3 makes black borders on modern tv that looks "old" to the unknowing.
People would have consent as the only barrier but the institution of marriage is SOCIETY saying no, there needs to be a brake on it because all that this does is generate more and more conflict
If his answer had just been "No" as her female friends saw as the worst possible outcome, I personally have no doubt that she would just have gone ahead and cheated on him and lied about it. When a person, male or female, proves to have this mindset, you leave them if you want a long-term committed relationship. You truly do not have any other option and adding imaginary thinking until you find a "rational" solution will always end you in more pain.
If you want an open marriage then what's the point in making the commitment of a marriage? .. look at Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell .. they totally happy and by the way totally committed to each other !!!) jeeez
If you swap genders in your Reddit story, I am 1000% positive the reaction would have been totally in support of the woman's decision to breakup. And yes, she nailed the new guy within a day or two of being dumped. She likely did before too.
3rd wave feminists have already stated that monogamous relationships are oppressive, and as such, traditional marriage is oppressive. This is pushed from virtually every media platform from magazines, podcasts, and entertainment.
The disrespect in her attitude is the bigger reason to ditch her than anything else. She wanted everything that went down in this clip to happen precisely the way it did. It was no accident that he happened to notice that she's on the phone right in front of him. She wanted him to know who she was talking to and how she was keeping them both in the closet about it. She's doesn't want her fling anymore and is just having fun in seeing how far she can be a shitter towards him before he "man's up" enough to walk away on his own. It's a win win win for her. 1st win - she's being a pig and having her fill of who and when she wants it. 2nd win - She's feeling liberated in her demeanor by throwing her sass around, being a shot caller, doing and saying exactly what she wants 3rd win - She doesn't have to be responsible and mature to be the one to end it and tell him "No".
@@cv6176 No. Because, in my 20s, I made the mistake of dating someone like her. Women like this do exist. There is something that is profoundly broken inside of them.
@@cv6176 You can just keep repeating “no” all you want. It doesn’t magically make me wrong. Because I’m not wrong…I have encountered (both personally and professionally) women who are this damaged…and worse. Or have you forgotten about Amber Heard?? I’ve had run ins with women far more damaged than even her.
Once disrespect is breached there's no bottom to it. I remember watching my drunk grade school teacher complain about her husband's tiny manhood as he sat fuming beside her. A distinct look of pain and humiliation on his face.
I couldn’t even imagine a female broaching the subject with me. A clear line of distinction would’ve been drawn long before the thought would cross her mind plus, how are you going to trade up not always is it a possibility as a general matter specifically?🍀
That part about being scared to be alone. When my ex-wife left me, that is exactly why I was upset over her leaving. Once she was gone and I realized and I didn't really miss her... I missed her dog more than her... I was ready to move on after only 2 weeks apart.
Women called men dogs for decades But they're the ones that made up that word poly and wanna cheat every time her box feels a tingle for another guy My OG told me years ago when a woman used to you that's when she's thru with you Female nature 101: the bubble gum effect Once your flavor runs out she's gonna spit you out and look for another piece somewhere the high of newness that makes her curious that's why you will notice the happiest you will ever see your gal is the beginning of the relationship until the honeymoon is over You can't love women and female nature at the same time Choose one🤷
Ik exactly what you mean by “girls sharing experiences” or “testing out the hot new flavor”. I was that guy. My brother is the relationship type and I am the wild jock party animal. Every time my brother gets in a committed relationship I end up sleeping with his gf’s friends group. It always would start with one and then she would go back tell the friend group and then one by one they would come to me and “test the waters” to put it politely. The last gf my brother dated for 7 years and by the end of it I had slept with all the bridesmaids. Fortunately he broke up with that cheating 304. And me being the good brother that I am made sure that all her friends kept their cheating 304 mouths shut. Got so much dirt on that crowd I could destroy their lives(not that I ever would but they don’t know that😂). Aah good times.
If one thing current day has taught us, allowing the unfettered feminist, nature to flourish, feverishly, or vehemently whatever is not to be allowed on any level. The second they couldn’t be trusted with children was the exact moment they lost autonomy.
Alex....you are the best I've heard seen, across decades of my professional life. You've got to be doing very well as you deserve to be! I'm sure you're helping millions of my brethren...they need you!
After 15 years of sleeping around and 'dating', I've gone completely numb to womens 'affection'. I've completely stopped sleeping around for the last 6 months. Sometimes the thought of casual bullshit sex with a stranger or a lame short term relationship with a girl you slowly realise doesn't really see you as a person that also has emotions and needs makes me feel sick.
The more we see the real nature of women - the more we become detached from the need to be in relationships. You don’t invest in short terms, it’s just your turn.
While this hasn't happened to me personally, I just feel so extremely grateful for such an eye opening video. It's just so much easier to understand what's going on when you've been lucky enough to hear this behaviours been put in clear terms to easily identify them in real time. Great job mate!
Funny story: One day my wife got some kind of greeting card in the mail. I tried to give it to her, but (thinking that it must be from her Mom or something) she said, "Oh, just open it." I don't even remember what the card looked like, but inside was a color photo of my wife with her arms around some guy and on the back was written, "You go girl!"
You are sooo right about everything. I am 63 and this is my experience too. At last somebody exposed that isue with a lot of these narcissist women. Thanks for confirming my experiences.
6:17 The most positive takeaway for the guy in the Reddit scenario is that he found out who his friends are, and aren’t. Time to block some people’s phone numbers, socials, etc
Why bother calling them relationships anymore? Why not men just say to potential longterm partners that if they want exclusivity, which equals " Relationship. " Or an " Arrangement? " Not FWB but a notch up from it. See what the women say. It would be an interesting experiment.
As a polyamorous man in a poly marriage, openness and honesty are SUPER important. You have to consider your partner(s) in every decision you make and secrets are STILL not okay. If you want a non-monogamous relationship or marriage, more power to you, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it, just like with monogamy. Each person involved has to also be okay with their partner(s) potentially seeing other people if they find someone. It can't be one-sided. Either everyone gets to date outside of the relationship/marriage, or monogamy is maintained.
His value increased in her eyes when he said no and broke up with her. Her value decreased when she asked to have an open relationship. She’s a toxic woman and he may hurt now but she did him a favour in the long run.
If she she wants an open relationship/marriage, it means SHE’S NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU! Please understand that! It’s very common for women to date someone they’re not attracted to. Why? Because she needs someone to provide her stability, security, house, food and etc. She’s just using you.
Honestly the fact that some of the other women in the group got defensive on her behalf, that he could have gone about it in a softer way, shows their complicity. His anger towards her they take as anger towards them. women mind virus things and they share complicity in such a manner. this is why there is what appears to be a sisterhood. that is other women who are also guilty of the same thing get in support of the girl who is being called out. once you clue into this its an easy way to see women tell on themselves.
Too bad you live in a free country and nobody cares what you think. I’m a vegetarian but I don’t go around espousing my morals on people as if I am the voice of god. I didn’t think liberals came to this channel.
A old coworkers couple where both ok with open relationship however this girl went insane wanted to sleep with some guys including me and told me his bf doesnt get any girls anyway (meaning he is ugly) glad she got fired
Gave you a sub, as your content is good, but I've seen and heard all of this from many years of following "Better Bachelor". But I think this content still is REALLY needed by most men to better prepare them emotionally that NONE of this is their fault and what to watch out for. It's a sad and gross thing how women are today. I find myself not even wanting to talk to women at work to avoid hearing the disgusting things they say and think. The last thing I heard about 2 weeks ago was 4 women together comparing notes about their divorces and being PISSED OFF that they only got half of their husband's stuff. Most felt they deserved ALL of it since they were the ones unhappy and he should have tried better to make her happy. I literally just listened for about 20 minutes during lunch and made a quick note to not interact with them if possible. One of them, I've known for over 20 years so this came as a shock to me.
I really don't want the men to think we are all like this. Just want to say to you all that we love, respect and support you. I've watched the demonization over the years in media and society and it's not right. Feminists and man haters are ruining our reputation as a whole. There are good and more traditional women out there still.
SO GOOD, so true !!!! Men should regain their pride n stuff. We cannot let women be on that throne where us men have to just accept everything our girl does because we should be so thankful for her being with you. No way! :)
100% right. I will not accept any bullshit from them either, I just wish the simps and and borderline simps would get their head out of their asses and get on board, then we could jerk the entitlement right out from under them. Then we’ll really hear the bitching and moaning but too bad so sad, you all are incapable of being responsible.
This guy did a great job. I was in the same situation and did not handle it as smooth or as well and it took me months to gather the self confidence and courage to leave that relationship. Props to this guy and other men who stand up for themselves. Keep it up. And she was definitely the victim. Has the nerve to tell me afterward that I “abandoned” her for leaving.
I am relieved that there is another man out there that sees women for what they really are. I have been single by choice for 8 years now. How can I possibly have a trusting relationship with one I know lives off of lies and immorality?? Please respond if you can.
Back many years ago when I still chose to date and be in relationships with women, one of the first things I would tell her is if she ever feels the need to cheat or even go out with another man to just do us both a favor and tell me so I can end the relationship and she gets to do who and what she wants and I get to do the same. I would do the same if I felt I needsd to or wanted to spend time with another woman. It's that simple. You'll usually find out if not immediately, but soon enough if she wants to be with you exclusively or not.
Lmao... How's the fvck is that disrespectful when it's a bold statement to believe that it's more honorable. If you even had the thought, want, or need to cheat, then end the relationship and do what you want. If not ending it just means they want to be a parasite and use up their partner until they monkey branch to their affair partner.
@@kin-of-orakio --- women will always get caught when they lie. They either start acting different, or they tell on themselves somehow. Especially if you live together. You'd think for as much as women lie, they'd be better at it.
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@@ianclark9198 I agree that it is a fake skit that the couple filmed, but they are absolutely in an open relationship, and are making content based on it to raise awareness or let other people know how it works, or how great it is (in their opinion obviously). The man filming is probably the husband, and he is just pretending to be an outside partner for the video like you suggest.
There are a million ways to gain clicks online which don't involve plastering your faces on the internet as the 'open relationship couple from tik tok'. Tik tok doesn't even give people any real income at all, so I would be willing to bet that their motivation is the typical oversharing of personal lives for social media, rather than fabricating their story for fame or money.
In my opinion the reason why these radicalized child like "women" feel justified in doing immoral stuff or just straight up don't care about the Morality of the situation is because as we know women are the child-bearers and thus the physically weaker half of the species since their skinn and muscles are design to be soft and elastic for when they get pregnant. This factor is what gives them an internal need to want the men to "protect and provide" for them, which is what they are design to do by nature (stronger muscles, willingness to take risks, logical and abstract thinking for "what if" situations, etc.).
This is why most venusians don't think or seem to even care about Logic, Morality and the consequences of not staying inline whith either. They are naturally designed to mainly focus, care and think about the material/physical, their material needs, material desires, etc. in the here and now. This is because by extension it will lead them to focus on the material well beign of their future child, who they (women) will be naturally attached to because of their genetic, and by extension, their emotional bond.
Abstract ideas like Morality, Logic, "karma" and things like philosophies bearly passes through the minds of these conditioned women, since normally it would be something left for their fathers and husbands to be in charged of and decide on and normally they, the daughters and wives, would trust their judgements and decisions on such matters; that is when they themselves don't want to take the time or responsibility of doing them themselves if they even could or want to. However now a days they base their views on what's right/Moral and wrong/immoral on what is allowed and dictated by the ruling class, making it an artificial substitute for fathers and husbands, or on what is collectively considered ok by the masses (public opinion), wich is mostly based on what is propagated by the ruling class/state through their media.
There's also the fact that for women with a narcissistic and predatory mindset it makes them feel special and important having the men be screwed and seen as bad since it gives them a (false) sense of "moral" superiority just for being of the other sx without actually having done anything to earn it. The worst part is when they relish and enjoy men's suffering and going through problems to the point that they need to see them suffer and be ignored because it makes them feel even more superior for just being woman due to the narcissistic and above all predatory mentality they've been conditioned to have, especially when they themselves were the cause of said man's suffering.
The worst thing about this is that women only feel justified doing immoral crap like that because they are at the moment backed and protected by the ruling class/state. The ruling class is for the moment allowing this behavior because it allows for the demoralization and de-franchizing of men becuase men are the biggest treath and competition for the state due to them being naturally design to care about things like Freedom, Morality and Independence, things the state doesn't want and can't tolerate. Once this is done the state will turn on them and there will be no men left or willing to defend them.
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He should NEVER get back with her... Less stress .. It's all about FEELINGS with them. They don't think the same as men. They see things through a different lens...
Sadia Khan nailed it:
“We’ve raised a generation of narcissistic women and convinced them that the narcissism is feminism.”
How dare you have boundaries? How dare you not just accept anything and everything that I feel the impulse to do? How dare you ask me to behave like an adult?
The lack of any emotion from that woman early in the video is just disturbing. I get real sociopath vibes from her.
You forgot the most important thing- anyone who slightly disagrees with a narcissistic woman is labeled a narcissist.
According to my data collected from women- every man on the earth is a narcissist -_-
agreed
@@Seldomheardabout That’s the primary character defense of a narcissist: projection.
They accuse you of being what they are, and doing what they are doing. Then attack you for it so they can avoid facing how little they truly think of themselves.
It’s like watching a pufferfish blow itself up. It doesn’t do it because it’s feeling confident, it does it when it’s scared.
@@kellygreenii bro I’m a master of the white arts but I appreciate your input. And you are dead ass correct that projection is their go to.
@@kellygreenii and I’m not a psych buff anymore, but I always assumed that projection is a work around for someone to criticize themselves because they never learned or were traumatized from something.
An open relationship means one guy gets all of the problems and bills. The other guy gets all of the sexual access with no bills or problems.
Why would one guy get all the bills? You all talk about money and relate your girls to money.. Why????
@@andersnielsen6044 umm, because that is implicit in the social construct of marriage. The man provides and protects, the woman gives the man children and keeps the home. Now that has shifted since women entered the workplace and the sexual revolution, but even now men provide 2/3 of the income, on average (because of female hypergamy, not because of any supposed income gap.)
@mindmagicstudio7000 we've all heard the saying 'why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free,' the guy in an open marriage is buying the cow but not getting any milk!!!!
@@davidjones8942 agreed with analagy. also open marriage is adultry.
@@andersnielsen6044 so what would you call it if your at home paying for the house, the car, the phones, the electric etc and she’s out having fun with another guys who DOESNT have to pay for that stuff?
That’s called one guy getting everything for free and the other paying for everything and getting the scraps (if that) of what used to be his relationship.
No one can ruin a relationship faster than her female friends. They care more about the opinion of her girlfriends than her boyfriend or husband. Which makes no sense if you are trying to build a life with someone. I guess misery loves company.
They (female "friends") fear each other more than they fear the opinion of their loving partner.
The hive mind will wreck any woman.
No woman wants to see another woman happy, they will reach in with 'advice' designed to destroy it.
Had my 12 year marriage destroyed by a female friend of hers. Like everything she spoke was gospel. Ridiculous
@@gumdeo"Correctamondo maximus".
Open relationship is an oxymoron. It is not a relationship. It’s just people who want sleep around while bizarrely pretending they are in a relationship. It makes no sense.
Indeed. The "I want the benefits of being single but also those of a relationship, if I feel like it" problem.
Compromise? Nah, I deserve better cause I breath.
Facts. Another oxymoron is a loyal female 😂
Truth.
It's called having your cake and eating it to.
Aka no accountability
Used to absolutely love and adore women but after 10ish years of dating I grew completely cold. there was not a single time when a woman was straight up and honest with me. always playing games, always scheming behind my back. it gives me comfort knowing I was not just unlucky, women are actually like this and many other men go through similar experiences I have. I do not put them on a pedestal anymore or treat them as members of a "protected social class". also quitting dating was easily one of the best choices of my life... I can save more money, I'm way more efficient with my time, and my life is overall less stressful.
The irony is, once you focus on self-growth, no woman will be suitable for a relationship or marriage.
I hear you. At the point where if a woman is not sick of female friends and their gossip and backstabbing and everything else that is negative while spoken with smiley faces, then they are not ready for a relationship with a man. The same applies to men and bad friends but we do have more options in that regard even if we count them with one hand.
Skill issue, get good and find better women bro
@iamnorkore228 I agree completely, I also left a comment just like yours a few minutes ago, before I saw yours. "We must stay focused bro" and take time to love ourselves ❤
@ogbmt haha what a funny comment 😂👍 glad to read that you have Riz and many dating skills. Great for you, but please don't put down others like you do, thanks 🙏
When a woman says she wants an open marriage, she is basically saying this: She wants a "nice" guy to provide a home, a car, and food on the table, but wants her sex from a Chad who she knows won't provide any of that. Example, look what happened to Will Smith.
That is called “Alpha Fucks and Beta Bucks”.
There are tons of men in similar situations, men who accept it are quite frankly weak.
Dont forget Patrick Swaize case.
Patrick Swayze was a Chad.
What did happen to Will Smith? He is a famous and rich actor after all.....with many options
The majority of women will defend other women no matter what they do.
Defend All Women
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Defund all women
i am not sure about that, woman can be very hateful to each other.
@@JamespwickstromwMy wife has a few female friends. She sees them very rarely and only talks to them every now and then. She hates women. She hates men. She hates children.
But she loves me and our son and that, truly, is all that matters to me.
Most even if they know the women is terrible she at most will remain silent or she'll be outed female cabal good ole girl network & networking
This video was far too relatable. It’s how my marriage ended… Girls trip, followed by an open relationship request, and quickly followed by divorce.
Me too man. Me too. Except replace "Girls trip" with Heavy-metal themed cruise and divorce with relationship-end.
Open relationship request from her means she got tired of hiding her cheating.
your fault, it should've ended as soon as she mentions "girl trip"
@@LexaRulesca I mean… it still results in the end of marriage 🤷🏻♂️ It’s not really a win either way.
@@Shwanson4 it is a win, most of the times you lose the woman and your self respect, this way you just pass the woman and get to keep your dignity
Open relationship is no relationship...It is even emotionally, mentally, morally and socially worse than no relationship.
@@Carmen-99I’ve met tons of people who do this. Most stories where all the same. The couple had built a life and had kids but couldn’t stay faithful to each other. So instead of splitting they just “open” the relationship. It’s a joke.
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Excellent path to self destruction
This dumb California fashion “relationship” is a consistent train wreck, with the wreckage of families and countless hollow jaded people strewn about along its path.
The moment she brings up the subject in a non-joking way, your marriage/relationship is over. She either is already sleeping with someone or knows who she is about to sleep with. Say you’re not comfortable with it and the conversation cordially and then hire the biggest shark of a divorce attorney you can find
The ready answer is, "Let me think about it a bit". Because whatever you thought you had is GONE.
Begin an asset moving plan, and interviewing all the best divorce lawyers near and keep the
receipts so she can't use any of them. Moving money offshore is pretty foolproof now also.
If there are kids involved YOU are their best protection. Look to custody winning Fam. court atty's too.
Mine took a cash settlement and a really high taxed chalet. It did not work out well for her.
I took 2 wks vacation and she never knew it. Had time to hire a good P. Investigator even.(busted)
I still care for the woman, but I wasn't built with a ''reverse'' gear. My new gal seems happy tho.
Nonjoking, I hope your not serious dude! If you are you NEED help!
The response to know whether she REALLY wants an open relationship is when she brings it up, you get excited and say "That's a great idea! Ive got 3 women who've been trying to get with me for awhile now."
Her response will tell you what she really wants.
The Secret Brotherhood of Man won't like that your exposing our strategies....but now that is here: men of culture, use the homie's "response" execution and you'll have a 99% chance of exposing an undercover ho, lol.
she might not care at all if you have 3 women lined up. she just wants you to keep paying the bills until she monkey branches.
so... as soon as she dare mentions an open relationship you kick her to the curb immediately or if you're married you get a lawyer and start securing all your assets before handing over the divorce papers the day after she spends the night with Chad.
@@GrifterUno Uhhh, so she's a "ho" if she responds favorably to the response? It sorta feels like there's some weird mental ju-jitsu going on here. Lol
So thankful I don't have to play games with my wife like that.
@@ronh1850 Yeah, I got three naive friends like you. One is homeless, the other two are single by choice after "not having to play games with their significant others" ended up badly for them. Wish you luck but I'll just play it safe, just in case, lol
@@GrifterUno Thanks for your concern. However, consider these 3 things:
1) My SO is n=1 so she has no relationship baggage/trauma at all. Zero, zilch, Nada. Other than our typical relationship squabble.
2) Although I met her in college, she's from a different culture (SE Asia) with healthy family and peer pressures. Expectations to be a lady (rough translation), and morality is a big deal.
3) She's been with me for 30 years. We've had our ups and downs, but now as fresh empty nesters it's like when we first dated which is awesome. So far, so good.
There are no guarantees in life, but I think her and I have a good shot to go the distance. Some of what you're calling 'game playing' may just be differences in how men and women think and act.
I'm sorry you seem to be so jaded. There really are decent women out there. Although they're rarer and get taken off the dating market fast and early, usually for good.
Maybe try checking out women from different parts of the world if you're not having luck where you are.
I can’t imagine even telling a girl “no” if she asks for an open relationship. It’s just over at that point. Even asking is a complete breach of trust that I don’t think I’d ever regain.
True.
But since it would be over anyway when she asks, I'd like men to say to their girlfriends, "you can sleep with the dude but only after I slept with a woman first". Really wonder what the females' reactions would be.
Yup. Its over right there when the question is popped.
A lot of people dont seem to understand that relationships are all built on trust. When i go to work, my boss trusts that i do a decent job. I trust he will pay me.
When i go out with a friend, i trust he is on my side when trouble for some reason comes on our path. Its vice versa for him.
When i drive on the road, i trust traffic coming from opposite lane does not swirv into my lane. When someone does, that trust is gone.
When i am in a marriage, or relationship, i trust sex is exclusively for me and she can expect the same.
As soon as that question is popped, the trust contract is broken. And with that the relationship is over.
I made the mistake once, to accept it. Because i was still deeply in love. It ended anyway soon after, but by then It f'd me up so bad, sex has never been the same since. It basically broke me. Thats close to 25 years ago.
I dont want to get into details.
I've been married a few times and have been cheated on every time. From this, I can tell you that being single now is the best I have ever been in my life. Zero stress and drama and the disposable income I have is crazy. Food and gas prices don't even bother me because everything is payed for. If a girl cheats on you, look at it positively. Get rid of her and start really living. Life is too short to have a leech pulling you down all the time.
But I don't want to be a genetic dead end. Does family mean nothing to y'all anymore?
@@MultiBannanaSHITTTT Of course family is important just as carrying on your genes to the next generation. Remember, your thoughts on this are only half of this plan. Modern women can not see past their nose so it is up to men to adapt. Get married and have kids if you need to, but know the risks. If I knew this when I was younger, I would never have gotten married. It wasn't even close to worth it.
@@daveunderwood6498 I still believe women from other cultures still make it worth trying. Just don’t bring them to the sick west or they become tainted too quickly. However I completely agree with you, marriage with a western woman is 9/10 not worth it.
@daveunderwood6498 Get a prenup if you want to go the marriage and kids route. Make it perfectly fair in that it never mentions husband or wife, only spouse, so it can not be considered one-sided. The biggest help a prenup gives is not fairness in divorce, it's weeding out those with plans of cheating after marriage!!
@@davidjones8942 I've heard a half a dozen stories where prenups are not worth the paper they are written on. Maybe it depends where you live? It's worth checking out.
Well, this video shows, that being single in 2023 is not that bad...
Risk benefit analysis leads me to conclude it's imperative to wellbeing/survival.
All men pay in some way.
I love the backbone you are showing in this video, Alexander. This is the attitude that men need to survive in this world. Nailed it.
At least 50% of women who have shown strong interest in me, already had boyfriends. The number I think is between 60-80%, but it’s difficult to come up with an accurate estimate because many of them are not up-front about it, or are in some sort of ambiguous ‘situationship’ in which neither person knows their arse from their elbow.
I am low-balling it when I say 50%.
The much younger ones (18-23) actually tend to be better. They still tend to more often have stronger morals. But they often choose the wrong guys due to their inexperience, get jaded and frustrated with men, and then between ages of 22 (when they leave college) to 30-ish are more often into the casual dating scene, monkey branching, so forth.
Young people make poor choices. We used to rely on our families to assist with these things. Now we don’t. Alex made a different great video about this. This is the root of many issues.
If they really like you, you'll have no idea or signal whatsoever that she's in a relationship.
@@animal0mother That is somewhat true, but usually not for me.
I will know, because I don't rush women who I like into bed. I take time to get to know her. Usually within a matter of weeks once she feels more at ease, she will slip up and drop a hint if she has a boyfriend, or one of her friends will. Occasionally they also are upfront about it and just straight up say, "I'm going back to my boyfriends' apartment" on our first meet. This is more normal in big cities like London where I live. Or it isn't difficult at all to deduce from their social media, if their facebook status says "in a relationship" and there's lots of photos of them together. Or sometimes I will protract the 'talking' phase so long that we effectively end up "friend zoning" one another, after which I find out that she had a boyfriend the whole time. This happens because until I am given very specific and tangible reasons to trust someone, I will not. That can take a long time with some people, and with others (such as these kinds of women) we never even get there. I would call them 'acquaintances' at best, not even friends. Hanging out for drinks in a group occasionally is ok, but I don't have anywhere near enough in common with them to maintain a 1-on-1 conversation or invite them for Christmas or New Years' for instance.
Those are the 50% of women that I am *positive* about having a boyfriend. Then the more ambiguous 60-80% threshold are those that hide it much better or don't even know themselves if they're in a relationship or not.
I’ve had sooo many female married friends express explicit sexual interest in me. With precise words too!
I have too much integrity to consider it. It also makes me step back from our friendship.
Now, if both her and her husband ask me, that’s an exciting proposition!
@@aaronsinspirationdaily4896 Most of these polyamorous / open relationships end badly. Even if both asked me and everything was 'above board', I'd still be uncomfortable doing it with most people. There are only *two* people I know currently whom I respect deeply enough as individuals and as a relationship, whom I would hypothetically consider this with, as I would think there'd be very little risk of emotional games, drama, or them breaking up because of it.
Yes, the nuclear family is currently being touted as the greatest thing by the more "conservative" folks. But the nuclear family is really just the last (and weakest) holdover from days past...when communities/tribes/extended families existed.
Without wise, intelligent, and well respected elder females leading and guiding younger females, you'll just have the blind leading the blind.
This chick just confirmed 2 things that we have always known.
1. Girl's night out is not innocent fun.
2. They knowingly and willingly share the same dude if they think he's high status enough.
Bottom line: if you aren't/can't be the dude that they're all sharing in 2023/2024, DO NOT be their safety net. No relationships. No dates. No financial investment. No attention. Nothing.
It's a simple question you must ask yourself: "Am I the guy out here spinning numerous plates?" If the answer is yes, carry on. If the answer is no, you must not invest anything in to any individual female alone.
You're either spinning plates/trying to spin plates, or you're in monk mode. Middle of the road here in this situation gets you run over. It sounds extreme, but we are living in extreme times out here. Good luck, gentlemen.
We shouldn't be a part of the problem. Spinning plates corrupts hearts, souls, and societies.
@@deyahdn3 and we do not have to. all you get from spinning plates you can buy with money after all.
"girls dancing night"... Doesn't it show why wamen want's so much to go to clubs with her girls even when in a relationship? This seems such an opportunist mindset to have all the options with many men. Guys, just keep clear from such wamen...
I thought it would be obvious not to get into a serious relationship with women who go out constantly with their not so good girlfriends
Yes, there are a million things you can do with female friends -- dance, crafts, scrapbooking, kids activities, games, watching old movies, etc. Even if you wanted to drink... you could do that at someone else's place. It's it funny, despite all those, they want to do activities where there are other men and alcohol? That's the final sign of cheating or at least disrespect. Clubs with the girls, after work drinks with coworkers, trip with the girls to have drinks on the beach, school reunion, etc., etc.
Alcohol + places where men are = cheating, loss of trust, and disrespect.
Yep especially since clubs aren't really fun places to be unless you like to be sxually assaulted. Loud music, bunch of a-holes everywhere. Creeps groping people who they don't even know. Why would any woman want to go to such place unless they are into being treated like trash is beyond me?
The halo effect is mind blowing.. they are definitely not Angels just because they look pretty
Just when I thought women couldn't get any more f****d up, there is always something new
The guy in the Reddit story handled it like a boss - perfectly. Even to SUGGEST an open relationship can't be walked back - it's over on the spot.
The enigma of feminine desire. As men, I don't think we can truly understand it. Even if we are confronted with it, we don't want to believe it. We can never "have" them. Their fantasies are too potent and visceral. They are at the root of their hypergamy and seemingly better ability to move on from relationships.
Laughing so hard at Will Smith because of you know... Jada Pinkett. 😂😂😂 No guy should ever agree to an "open" relationship, married or not. Just so disrespectful, and reprehensible.
See, this is what deters me the most from seeking relationships. It's not enough to find a high quality woman whose goals and values align with yours, but you also want to make sure her friends are as good as her. Do you risk getting in a relationship with a woman where it's a possibility that her friends are snakes? What's one to do?
Get a passport 😂
Fine a girl with no friends 😂
@@angelhellokitti Nope.. That's usually also a big red flag.
i think in this case a woman won't act distant from her partner unless she already had some kind of intimacy with anozther man, its like a subconscious expression of conscience.
It is because she has pair bonded with the new guy.
"People who want to have affairs but lack the decency to feel ashamed about it" Wow that is the most concise explanation of an open relationship I've ever heard.
When she pulled back, it means she was sleeping with the other guy. A woman cannot be really intimate with two people at the same time. If she goes to someone else, intimacy with her man dies instantly.
Absolutely stunning!! What a relief it is to hear these kinds of stories. Of course it's terrible for this guy but feeling that you're not alone in experiencing this kind of thing is very comforting, it helps to heal the wounds of the heart and it helps to calm down. It's sad that we can no longer trust women but at least this way of opening our eyes will protect us financially and emotionally. Good luck guys and stay strong ❤️
In my 30’s I took many trip down south all by myself, the stuff I saw and was offered made me doubt female loyalty. Now that men are sharing their stories, our collective eyes are opening. Young guys are lucky to have this information available. Women love to be loved, they are not in love with you. A better deal comes by and your are forgotten in a heartbeat. We are built differently.
I guess this guy is lucky, in that he isn't married to her, has kids with her, and a mortgage shared with her. Deciding what to do in this case when children are involved, and the possible financial difficulties involved, to work it out, just up and leave, or have her leave, yeah, this guy had it easier than other guys out there.
In a serious committed relationship there should be two universal unspoken rules to protect the relationship
1. No friends of the opposite sex 2. No girls/boys night out
I agree 100% and no bachelor or Bachelorette parties
What if you’re bi? Then no friends at all?
@@10TallDwarves don't date bi people. Disgusting. You have your opinions and other people have theirs
@@10TallDwarves Buddy, use some critical thinking and don't just repeat some generic "gotcha" phrase, because it's not really a gotcha. You want it analyzed, lets go. If someone is Bisexual, the friend would also need to be bisexual for it to be a concern. If the friend isn't bisexual, then it's no different than any other type of relationship of the same sex. Attraction cannot exist between both people involved. Even if both were bisexual and attraction does have the potential to exist, straight relationships are different from same sex relationships. They have different issues and concerns and how they function. So it's pointless to compare both and act as if they will have the same dynamics. They don't. For most people though, they are talking about straight relationships and how they function.
There. Now your question to this is answered.
@@EntertheFray1you are partially right, I just disagree with the premise entirely. But hey, each person live their life how they see fit. If you are ok controlling your partners friend group and ok being controlled in same fashion… go for it. I just think it’s ridiculous to completely dismiss any relations with opposite sex. That’s not a life I would be willing to live or impose on my spouse.
Is this 'open relationship' thing something that women typically initiate? I don't think I've ever heard a story where the guy is the one to suggest this.
Exactly it’s most of the time the woman who wants that
It's because, for some psychological reason, women don't want to hold themselves to any type of Moral and Logical standards, in this case the standards of being a good and faithful girlfriend and wife. The idea of fully committing to something is almost alien and borderline horrific for them because they just want do drift in life going only on their emotions and just feeling things through like driftwood on the open sea. Having to use logic and a moral compass is like planting yourself in the dry land were you have to take responsibility for your own life through proper thought and action.
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@@agm5424 Last sentence is brilliant. 🙂
@agm5424 I can't imagine going through life without accountability and morals. I don't understand how anyone can respect themselves if they don't hold themselves to a standard. Maybe these type of people are just delusional and that's how they do it.
Alex, your outburst at the end there might just be the best thing I've ever seen on this channel 😂. This guy reminds me of me. I was cheated on and I didn't see it coming and didn't want to believe it until it was too late, but with hindsight it was blindingly obvious what was happening. I wish someone had shouted at me like that for believing the lies.
I am traditional…. But after experiencing how cold and cunning modern women are, I can’t see myself commiting again. Why would I when it’s not mutual? They are constantly trying to level up.
Only to end up old and bitter with a husband they despise or cats to help her wallow in her self-pity.
In societies where women have freedom to do what they want there will be women who are like this. But it’s the minority of women who want this. That’s not a valid excuse to not get into a relationship with a woman.
@@orangehair2518 I didn’t say not to get in a relationship. I said to not commit, that way we can split ties at a moments notice. It wouldn’t be my choice, but I’ve been fooled once already and I’m not going to take the risk again - it’s not worth it.
with feminism, women massively dropped the trait of loyalty and replaced it with lust.
among other things.
women dropped the trait of loyalty and replaced it with lust.
This is the first time ever I have seen Alexander this angry! Hahaha he really was pissed off, and I am right there with him!
He is on a rampage.
Michael's wife here. This truly is disgusting and these women are harming themselves more than they know. The psychological literature is clear that by being promiscuous women literally damage their ability to fully bond with their mates (and, I believe, with their children as well). They tell their bonding hormones to shut off, thereby decreasing the heartache but only into a state of numbness where, ultimately, no bonding can take place. It's been quite a while since I've actually looked at the research, so I may not be entirely correct, but that's the message I got and I'm so grateful that I learned that early enough to take heed. Women: Don't do this to yourselves. Men: Don't tolerate this. God bless you all.
Unfortunately it's 99% of women nowadays, who don't have the capacity to override the basic instinct of hypergamy. It served us well in the previous eons, however it is not useful in the modern society.
james' friend's 2nd cousin's mother's uncle's brother-in-law's son here: thank you for your comment.
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Ghost of Christmases yet to come, here: marriage, sex and childbirth rates are at all time lows.
who is michael
@@OS-yg9fr Lol! I just figure honesty is the best policy, and I figure a female pov is useful on occasion. 😉
I was pressured by an ex bf into an open relationship. It was horrible. He had talked about it from the start - we should've obviously have parted ways, but we were emotionally co-dependent of one another. It took couple of years before I cracked under his pressuring; it took him only couple of his affairs to realise that the extra sex wasn't worth the drama. We were together for couple of years after that, before being able to grow out of that dysfunctional relationship.
Omg as a woman I am SO embarrassed by this horrible behavior. Thank goodness I am not single and got the heck out of the dating scene when I did. I was raised the traditional way in the Christian church and I am SO glad that my parents made me learn and understand the Bible and the moral covenant. Please remain hopeful gentlemen, because there are plenty of traditional women out there in traditional, loving, life committed relationships raising traditional and moral children and families. We are out there and we do exist. Love your channel btw.
You don’t need to be embarrassed for something you didn’t do. These women don’t speak for all of us.
Strong boundaries, are most important, as this story demonstrates...
Him: What! You haven't told your husband!
Her: No. Don't worry about it. It's not your problem.
Him: Being ventilated by your husband is my problem...
If she doesn't tell her husband who she is sleeping with, then it's a lie that her marriage is open lol open marriage is basically room mates who are fvck buddies occasionally but the guy has to provide for everything and don't get any play unless he's handsome or famous.
That woman, by alledgedly being in an open relationship, but lying about it, bc she has hidden it from her spouse, is puting this guy in danger.
Why would you hurt the dude that your wife has slept with? She made the decision to open her legs , all the blame on her@@StofStuiver
Are western women really like this? Damn.
Worse.
WESTERN EMPIRE :Warning, may contain exceptions
It's spreading, you'll see similar stories in the bigger cities in non western nations too. They portray this behavior as empowering on social media and so women everywhere are doing the same.
It really depends on where you live and who you choose to surround yourself with.
@@canchero724 GAE Global American Empire
Not long ago, we called women like this a word beginning with "w", now yt bans me for 24 hours for "bullying"😂😂😂
I get that a lot, saying the truth is a crime now 😐
These women once they have you can get you to do so much. My buddy’s gf said they should open their relationship, claimed she would give him threesome etc. he told me and I told him “no that’s her admitting to cheating but doesn’t want to feel bad about it” he told her no but didn’t believe me. Until one of his friends saw her and the guy together at a bar.
I actually proposed an open relationship to my narcissistic ex as a solution to her withholding sex from me and trying to manipulate me.
She didn’t like that AT ALL. I was taking away her weapon she used against me and also demonstrating my complete security in myself.
I mean, if she didn’t want sexual intimacy with me, but wanted me to stay in the relationship and put up with her rubbish manipulations? Seems fair that I get my needs met elsewhere.
Took all her imaginary power over me away.
I ended up leaving and going no contact. It’s the only rational choice with women like that.
She’s back with her ex that was “just a friend” 😂
I think her husband doesn't know he's in an open relationship ... I.e... she's cheating
My thought too.
Actually her running to all their mutual friends was a good thing.
Caused every one to come out and show their true colours.
Cut off all the ones who sided with her.
If they start judging without even getting your side then they are not worth the time
It seems a new generation of men must discover the darkness of women that older generations already knew. Something have been lost. I recommend watching old film noir movies, they are often not far of the truth. Start maybe with High Sierra (Bogart) and The killing (Sterling Hayden) and Sunset Blvd (Holden) to get both some (great but flawed) male role models and see the darkness of women.
That's what I keep saying but people of certain generations won't watch black and white movies. Asphalt Jungle, that's a freakin gold mine. Noir nite is big for me if there's not a game on.
@@malcolmapplet4313 Awesome to hear from a like-minded! Asphalt jungle (Sterling Hayden again) is a fantastic movie! Yeah agreed black and white might have a negative impact. Also I fear the cinema aspect ratio of about 4:3 makes black borders on modern tv that looks "old" to the unknowing.
People would have consent as the only barrier but the institution of marriage is SOCIETY saying no, there needs to be a brake on it because all that this does is generate more and more conflict
She DEFINITELY hooked up with Mr. Exotic prior to asking for cheating-permission.
If his answer had just been "No" as her female friends saw as the worst possible outcome, I personally have no doubt that she would just have gone ahead and cheated on him and lied about it.
When a person, male or female, proves to have this mindset, you leave them if you want a long-term committed relationship. You truly do not have any other option and adding imaginary thinking until you find a "rational" solution will always end you in more pain.
If you want an open marriage then what's the point in making the commitment of a marriage? .. look at Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell .. they totally happy and by the way totally committed to each other !!!) jeeez
If you swap genders in your Reddit story, I am 1000% positive the reaction would have been totally in support of the woman's decision to breakup. And yes, she nailed the new guy within a day or two of being dumped. She likely did before too.
3rd wave feminists have already stated that monogamous relationships are oppressive, and as such, traditional marriage is oppressive. This is pushed from virtually every media platform from magazines, podcasts, and entertainment.
The disrespect in her attitude is the bigger reason to ditch her than anything else.
She wanted everything that went down in this clip to happen precisely the way it did. It was no accident that he happened to notice that she's on the phone right in front of him. She wanted him to know who she was talking to and how she was keeping them both in the closet about it.
She's doesn't want her fling anymore and is just having fun in seeing how far she can be a shitter towards him before he "man's up" enough to walk away on his own.
It's a win win win for her. 1st win - she's being a pig and having her fill of who and when she wants it. 2nd win - She's feeling liberated in her demeanor by throwing her sass around, being a shot caller, doing and saying exactly what she wants 3rd win - She doesn't have to be responsible and mature to be the one to end it and tell him "No".
@@cv6176doesn't matter since this is happening irl anyways
@@cv6176 No. Because, in my 20s, I made the mistake of dating someone like her. Women like this do exist. There is something that is profoundly broken inside of them.
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@@cv6176 Yes. There is. Only woman in my life that I was actually afraid of. Ever.
@@cv6176 You can just keep repeating “no” all you want. It doesn’t magically make me wrong. Because I’m not wrong…I have encountered (both personally and professionally) women who are this damaged…and worse.
Or have you forgotten about Amber Heard?? I’ve had run ins with women far more damaged than even her.
Once disrespect is breached there's no bottom to it. I remember watching my drunk grade school teacher complain about her husband's tiny manhood as he sat fuming beside her. A distinct look of pain and humiliation on his face.
I couldn’t even imagine a female broaching the subject with me. A clear line of distinction would’ve been drawn long before the thought would cross her mind plus, how are you going to trade up not always is it a possibility as a general matter specifically?🍀
That part about being scared to be alone. When my ex-wife left me, that is exactly why I was upset over her leaving. Once she was gone and I realized and I didn't really miss her... I missed her dog more than her... I was ready to move on after only 2 weeks apart.
Women called men dogs for decades
But they're the ones that made up that word poly and wanna cheat every time her box feels a tingle for another guy
My OG told me years ago when a woman used to you that's when she's thru with you
Female nature 101: the bubble gum effect
Once your flavor runs out she's gonna spit you out and look for another piece somewhere the high of newness that makes her curious that's why you will notice the happiest you will ever see your gal is the beginning of the relationship until the honeymoon is over
You can't love women and female nature at the same time
Choose one🤷
Ik exactly what you mean by “girls sharing experiences” or “testing out the hot new flavor”. I was that guy. My brother is the relationship type and I am the wild jock party animal. Every time my brother gets in a committed relationship I end up sleeping with his gf’s friends group. It always would start with one and then she would go back tell the friend group and then one by one they would come to me and “test the waters” to put it politely. The last gf my brother dated for 7 years and by the end of it I had slept with all the bridesmaids. Fortunately he broke up with that cheating 304. And me being the good brother that I am made sure that all her friends kept their cheating 304 mouths shut. Got so much dirt on that crowd I could destroy their lives(not that I ever would but they don’t know that😂). Aah good times.
Damn. You're gross.
If one thing current day has taught us, allowing the unfettered feminist, nature to flourish, feverishly, or vehemently whatever is not to be allowed on any level. The second they couldn’t be trusted with children was the exact moment they lost autonomy.
Alex....you are the best I've heard seen, across decades of my professional life.
You've got to be doing very well as you deserve to be!
I'm sure you're helping millions of my brethren...they need you!
After 15 years of sleeping around and 'dating', I've gone completely numb to womens 'affection'. I've completely stopped sleeping around for the last 6 months. Sometimes the thought of casual bullshit sex with a stranger or a lame short term relationship with a girl you slowly realise doesn't really see you as a person that also has emotions and needs makes me feel sick.
The more we see the real nature of women - the more we become detached from the need to be in relationships. You don’t invest in short terms, it’s just your turn.
Yup that's why I don't trust them they can betray u in an instant as if nothing happens that's the sad reality
The absolute truth
If she wants an 'open relationship' she is already cheating on you or is garbage. She's for the streets.
Alex, never have I seen you so animated. It was great hearing that you really care about mens’ relationships.
"Girls night out", there you have it fellas. Fresh & Fit and so many others have been telling us about these "girls nights out."
While this hasn't happened to me personally, I just feel so extremely grateful for such an eye opening video.
It's just so much easier to understand what's going on when you've been lucky enough to hear this behaviours been put in clear terms to easily identify them in real time.
Great job mate!
Funny story: One day my wife got some kind of greeting card in the mail. I tried to give it to her, but (thinking that it must be from her Mom or something) she said, "Oh, just open it." I don't even remember what the card looked like, but inside was a color photo of my wife with her arms around some guy and on the back was written, "You go girl!"
What happened ?
what happened after?
@@dwwolf4636 I guess 911 call :D
Still didn't answer the question why am I not surprised smh 🤦♂️
So... The greeting card was yours, right? You were just pretending you didn't know what it was
You are sooo right about everything. I am 63 and this is my experience too. At last somebody exposed that isue with a lot of these narcissist women. Thanks for confirming my experiences.
6:17 The most positive takeaway for the guy in the Reddit scenario is that he found out who his friends are, and aren’t. Time to block some people’s phone numbers, socials, etc
This shows you why you need to carefully assess the quality of a woman's friends before making a commitment
Why bother calling them relationships anymore? Why not men just say to potential longterm partners that if they want exclusivity, which equals " Relationship. " Or an " Arrangement? " Not FWB but a notch up from it. See what the women say. It would be an interesting experiment.
One of your best videos AG. I am in full agreement. Keep fighting the good fight.
"Open" relationship is like riding a plane with open doors and windows
As a polyamorous man in a poly marriage, openness and honesty are SUPER important. You have to consider your partner(s) in every decision you make and secrets are STILL not okay. If you want a non-monogamous relationship or marriage, more power to you, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do it, just like with monogamy. Each person involved has to also be okay with their partner(s) potentially seeing other people if they find someone. It can't be one-sided. Either everyone gets to date outside of the relationship/marriage, or monogamy is maintained.
His value increased in her eyes when he said no and broke up with her. Her value decreased when she asked to have an open relationship. She’s a toxic woman and he may hurt now but she did him a favour in the long run.
there really IS a grieving process ! i am free now tho, gonna spend my life doing what i love, thank god i got this BEFORE i topped myself
This kinda describes the situations I was about to be getting with my ex and her stupid cheating bestie. Disgusting.
Love your channel. Really always makes me think and try to be a better woman. Thank you.
Pay attention who your girl hangs out with if they are 304s or have open relationships lol run its over
If she she wants an open relationship/marriage, it means SHE’S NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU! Please understand that!
It’s very common for women to date someone they’re not attracted to. Why? Because she needs someone to provide her stability, security, house, food and etc. She’s just using you.
Another example of why not to commit to women that go on girls' night out
Honestly the fact that some of the other women in the group got defensive on her behalf, that he could have gone about it in a softer way, shows their complicity. His anger towards her they take as anger towards them.
women mind virus things and they share complicity in such a manner. this is why there is what appears to be a sisterhood. that is other women who are also guilty of the same thing get in support of the girl who is being called out. once you clue into this its an easy way to see women tell on themselves.
I think open marriages is disgusting and immoral
Too bad you live in a free country and nobody cares what you think.
I’m a vegetarian but I don’t go around espousing my morals on people as if I am the voice of god.
I didn’t think liberals came to this channel.
The moral decline of most modern women, is absolutely disgusting.
15:31 the absolutely best moment 😂
Can't convince me otherwise.
16:11 It's more lonely to be with a woman who doesn't care about you than it is to live by yourself caring about yourself.
A old coworkers couple where both ok with open relationship however this girl went insane wanted to sleep with some guys including me and told me his bf doesnt get any girls anyway (meaning he is ugly) glad she got fired
Gave you a sub, as your content is good, but I've seen and heard all of this from many years of following "Better Bachelor". But I think this content still is REALLY needed by most men to better prepare them emotionally that NONE of this is their fault and what to watch out for. It's a sad and gross thing how women are today. I find myself not even wanting to talk to women at work to avoid hearing the disgusting things they say and think. The last thing I heard about 2 weeks ago was 4 women together comparing notes about their divorces and being PISSED OFF that they only got half of their husband's stuff. Most felt they deserved ALL of it since they were the ones unhappy and he should have tried better to make her happy. I literally just listened for about 20 minutes during lunch and made a quick note to not interact with them if possible. One of them, I've known for over 20 years so this came as a shock to me.
Alexander you were very fun to listen to in this video 😂💪
I really don't want the men to think we are all like this. Just want to say to you all that we love, respect and support you. I've watched the demonization over the years in media and society and it's not right. Feminists and man haters are ruining our reputation as a whole. There are good and more traditional women out there still.
Sorry but dating in the west is to risky... get your passports guys and move
SO GOOD, so true !!!! Men should regain their pride n stuff. We cannot let women be on that throne where us men have to just accept everything our girl does because we should be so thankful for her being with you. No way! :)
100% right. I will not accept any bullshit from them either, I just wish the simps and and borderline simps would get their head out of their asses and get on board, then we could jerk the entitlement right out from under them. Then we’ll really hear the bitching and moaning but too bad so sad, you all are incapable of being responsible.
The west needs a hard reset .
This guy did a great job. I was in the same situation and did not handle it as smooth or as well and it took me months to gather the self confidence and courage to leave that relationship. Props to this guy and other men who stand up for themselves. Keep it up. And she was definitely the victim. Has the nerve to tell me afterward that I “abandoned” her for leaving.
Just proves that going out with single friends to "girls nights" when in a relationship is a bad idea.
If she did it when she was single, she'll probably still do it when she's married. Don't expect behavior to change.
Best way to deal with women who want an open relationship. Just walk away from her. That teach them well.
I am relieved that there is another man out there that sees women for what they really are. I have been single by choice for 8 years now. How can I possibly have a trusting relationship with one I know lives off of lies and immorality?? Please respond if you can.
Open relationship = open for her, closed for him. Real-hate-shun-ship.
Woman learns men have feelings.
I think asking to cheat is way more respectful than cheating without asking. All I ask for is notice; then I can make the decision to stay or leave.
Back many years ago when I still chose to date and be in relationships with women, one of the first things I would tell her is if she ever feels the need to cheat or even go out with another man to just do us both a favor and tell me so I can end the relationship and she gets to do who and what she wants and I get to do the same. I would do the same if I felt I needsd to or wanted to spend time with another woman.
It's that simple.
You'll usually find out if not immediately, but soon enough if she wants to be with you exclusively or not.
If she is asking to cheat then she has already been cheating on some level.
Lmao... How's the fvck is that disrespectful when it's a bold statement to believe that it's more honorable. If you even had the thought, want, or need to cheat, then end the relationship and do what you want. If not ending it just means they want to be a parasite and use up their partner until they monkey branch to their affair partner.
@@13_13ka lot of women will then just lie and think they can get away with it. They want their cake and to eat it, too.
@@kin-of-orakio --- women will always get caught when they lie. They either start acting different, or they tell on themselves somehow. Especially if you live together.
You'd think for as much as women lie, they'd be better at it.