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Using bicycles ? WTF! 😮 I come from the Arctic Europe and we definitely do use bikes in the winter. But only on roads. Not off roads and not for weeks. That is crazy. No one up here would ever think about that. When you want to go on an expedition in a harsh or hot climate, always talk to the natives of that place. They know. If it was that easy to ride a bike off road on ice and snow on Baffin Island, people would do it. But they don’t. I delivered the morning paper by bicycle a whole winter with temperatures -20, -30 below freezing point, with a lot of snow storms, and I had to drag my bike some days for miles in deep snow. So no, I would never use a bike for off road expeditions in the Arctic.
@@daniellec2172 Why, why, why? That’s the question. Has there ever been a several week long bike expedition, before or after, off road in Arctic winter climate? I highly doubt it. Maybe one crazy person with lots of experience of cold weather and ice/snow may have done that. But not a whole team. This decision made them starve. And when they fell in to the ice cold water, they had no fat reserve that could help them fight. It’s hard to survive in such cold water. Nearly impossible. But it’s 10 times harder when you have lost a lot of fat and the body has been eating from the muscles. It makes you weak. Not the ultimate in the Arctic. Or Antarctic. This is a tragedy that could have been easily avoided. Skis with a sled behind or snow shoes with a sleigh attached to the body. And trekking poles or ski poles. That’s the way people have been moving from on place to another for thousands of years in the Arctic. And of course people have been moving with the help of dogs in Greenland and Northern Canada. And reindeers in Arctic Europe. But that would have been too complicated for this team. It’s unbelievable and incredibly amazing that one person survived this ordeal. Like an action movie with Bruce Willis. Die Hard Arctic.
@merrymaid2890 at some point in time nobody had ever tried scaling mount everest until people did and why why why would people want to do that? Same shit applies here so I don't know why people are acting ignorant
@@isabellindlind I’m so sorry, but English is my second language and I’m also autistic. I’m not sure what’s the meaning with your answer. What you want to tell me.
@@TWJCole Climbing Mount Everest for the first time was a challenge, and accomplishing it an achievement. Pushing a mountainbike up Mount Everest would be stupidity. Same applies for these 4: Crossing arctic territory is a challenge, doing it while pushing mountainbikes is stupidity. Why? Because them damn things don't do you any good, because you can't ride a bike on snow. In snow a mountainbike is just an unwieldy weight you have to push and carry everywhere.
Riding bicycles in the Arctic could be the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of. It’s a miracle that they didn’t perish in the first part of their trip. I can’t believe anyone agreed to this idiocy.
As soon as Dan said " let's get closer," I got a sinkjng feeling in my stomach! That far away from anything, why would you take unnecessary chances? Big whale, small boat, freezing water, bad combination!
@@_nick_d but they originally plan to sail/kayak across that same stretch of water! So there’s no reason not to “trust” that aluminum boat with a motor! It’s ironic they survived their ill-planned land journey only to die when they were in the charge of a local who they believe would have enough experience to keep them safe.
Sad for all of their families. Can't imagine what they went through to end up like frozen Popsicles. Not my cup of tea. Life is challenging enough especially these days as it is.
Why the fuck would anyone think a bike is going to be ideal in snow/ice, while hailing luggage, and climbing? Put as big of studded tires on that thing as you want, it's only going to impede you.
I can just imagine a group of Inuit locals seeing these goofs on bicycles pulling their supplies. I mean they didn't even have a metal thing to go around the back tires to keep the rope from getting stuck in the tire. Obviously none of them were engineers. The Inuits must have immediately known they were Americans by how they used bikes in place of a dog sled 🚲 🛷🛷🛷 👈🏻😂
@@danielstokes6934 but Mike at least had an impressive bunch of Seaweed - shame those cheeky locals wouldn’t let on if it was best for bum wiping or eating . 🙄
Personally, I wouldn’t agree that things went “terribly wrong” with this group’s plan. Based on the details you provided about the groups decision making before and during the trip, everything went according to plan. Imagine being so numb to life that you only get a dopamine rush from creating a life-threatening situation for yourself deliberately with only the hope of a little feeling good after 30 days of intense suffering.
Yeah!! The great expense & the intense bodily suffering such people put themselves through is so strange to me-- but these stories really are fascinating.
Mountain biking across snow and ice....🤦🤦♂🤦♀ I did a kilometer of that with a loaded touring bike once, because a pass hadn't been plowed yet. Sheer fucking misery. You have to be insane to willingly travel through such miserable country for so long.
Couldn't have just vacationed in Cancun like normal people huh? Their lifeline was a guy that might be out fishing and can't pick them up, or did I miss something? Poorly planned "expedition".
Ok guys, lets take our bikes and protein bars to the Arctic. It will be fun... Almost no survival skills, no hunting equipment... And fun goes away and sadness will remain...
Unbelievable. I’m sorry but as much as you think these two friends were something special, they didn’t have the brains to stop and think: “hey, bicycles are a very very bad idea.” No thank you. I won’t read his mini-biography
because i generally struggle to get out of bed or bother to water my house plants ,i have to admit a terrible satisfaction in seeing explorers being seriously challenged. Thank you for your efforts behind sharing this adventure 😃👍
This is why you stress test yourself, your team, your gear and your setup before your goal trip. This is why HSE and proper sailing gear for boats and boat personell is so rigorous. So that you have a chance of survival even if you hit freezing waters. This is just a checklist for what not to do.
GREAT video! The Outside Magazine article is fabulous. Most poignant in it is author Mark Jenkin's final paragraph. "The sorrow and emptiness, for all of us, are still so immense, so unspeakable. For too long in life, some of us, myself included, willfully believe that we have the right to risk our lives, that our lives are ours and ours alone to lose. But watching Justin grow up without his father has taught me that this is a self-serving lie." If you read the whole story, this becomes 100 times more powerful. All three of Mike Moe's children sank into grief, despair, drugs, alcohol, and homelessness. One eventually died and one spent time in prison. Still, Mark Jenkins, with kids of his own, continues to climb and participate in extremely high-risk adventures. Men and women like this simply can't stop; it's a death sentence. They continue until it kills them. (Love the "strum" when the dates change. )
@@LimHoochin absolutely. His example of ending up homeless with family in disarray must be an outlier yet 2 examples immediately spring to mind - those youngish folk -whom stubbornly ignored locals’ warnings . A German lads’ determination to cross a dangerous ‘gap’ in Bolivia or Columbia or the solo girl canoeist attempts to traverse the entire Amazon down the Andes - who’d persisted onto a village renowned for banditry … i found myself thinking of the emotional toil upon everyone whom loved them along with each deaths’ exponential effect.
I love adventure vacations and challenges - but enter in freezing cold temps and I am out! Sharon’s last words got me choked up. I hope they are at complete peace now. ❤🙏🏻
5 degrees is nothing. It isn't cosy if you're naked, but you don't need many clothes to feel comfortable. Unless it's windy, which is a different story. But at plus 5, even in wind it doesn't take a lot more clothing to feel very cosy. You can ski cross country very comfortably until about minus 25 C.
if those people had spouses and children, they were utterly selfish to have taken such risks ...leaving them orphaned and widowed for their own vain glory is worse than the abandonment of cheating. Absolutely repulsive.
Revenge for what? They're protected. Usually these attacks are because they perceive a boat as being something like a whale, and if they're territorial or it's mating season, they'll attack. A pod of orca off Spain have started systematically attacking boats apparently simply because it's fun
The boaters pushed their luck and encroached on the primitive whales sanctuary. Man's curiousity and a whales survival instinct at odds the whales swim on.
I swear people look at me like I am crazy with the amount of food I carry but don't really eat. I mean if I was them I would say I am a little off as well; however, the military trained me very well in survival. Eat as little as possible and conserve the rest. Survival in harsh environments will test your fortitude and even the best trained soldiers and civilians will be taxed beyond belief. You cant take any chances unless your suicidal
Damn, how tragic, they got really unlucky with the whale, but Louie failing to drop off their boats, survival suits and more equipment is just unfair and reckless, though I'm sure he didn't want them to die, his self-absorption ensured they'd be at great risk of starving or going missing, let alone falling into the water by getting too close to the whales (something he should have said "No" to as someone I'd presume would be experienced with wildlife in Baffin Bay). What was the point of paying him if he wasn't going to turn up or send someone else, or raise the alarm that they're overdue, or try contacting them. Just apathy on his account. Very kind and _selfless_ of Mike to say it wasn't Louie's fault, even as he was taking his last breaths. Pretty remarkable group of explorers, all seemed to be decent people. RIP.
I get wanting to do a dangerous expedition, but they should have told more people where they were going and to call the authorities if they hadn’t checked in by a certain date. The fact they didn’t starve initially is a miracle. Once rescued, their one and only priority should have been to reach civilization fast as possible, not go sight-seeing after a narrow brush with death.
I knew Mike and Dan Moe met them in Laramie, Wyoming The last time I seen all them ( the expedition team) Trudy and I ( Dan and mike sister)dropped them off at Denver airport And that was the last time we seen them I remember the phone call Trudy got that night about Dan Mike and Sharon and Brad May they rest in peace May they rest in peace
Just how stupid you have to be to carry bikes to such a place??🤯 I need an extra mind to be blown...one of the most absurdly stupid people I've ever heard about!
I've done hundreds of solo rock climbs in northern Thailand and a few dozen in Namibia and SW USA. They last a few hours. I take only a water bottle. I can't handle cold. Ouch.
Joshua was a bit useless. Turning up 7 days after the fact, they could have starved to death in that time. It might had been better, rather than freezing to death
You know they weren't right around the corner, right? It took him 7 days to get there likely because of where he was and the conditions when they contacted him. He wasn't expecting them to contact him then in the first place so no, he wasn't useless. You can't even blame him for the whale thing. They were ALL adults and the ones who'd already been out there starving for a couple of weeks were the ones insisting on getting closer to the whales. These people were all well aware of the conditions and planned their own trip and were stupid about it.
I was wondering what the distance and conditions encountered would dictate reasonable travel time to be. And if it is a long distance and/or difficult conditions, count on something unexpected to happen that will suck time and resources. Now I want to learn more. Enjoyed your comments. 💯
I've lived in Canada, not arctic Canada, but "cold Canada" (more than two hours north of the border). As soon as I heard bikes I thought "so, you can't ride your bike in Wyoming's winter, but you seem to think you can ride it on a glacier" These are not Californians. They lived somewhere with cold and snowy winters. This sounds like a really complicated and expensive way to die of misadventure. Caving/cave diving is much quicker.
How did you type the little zero for 'degrees'? I've sometimes wondered why they don't have that provision on keyboards. Same for 1/2 and 1/4 and a little 2 for 'squared' as in CO2.
As sad as I am for them, I will never understand putting yourself in danger when you have a family at home - this is more insane than climbing Everest in my opinion
What?! Being concerned about pictures when you've just survived being stranded? OK. Have they never heard of Moby Dick? SMH. There's a reason to be vigilant. If you've just survived being rescued, safety and security need to be your top priorities and even the smallest whale is big enough to topple a boat of that size. I find it so incredible that Joshua would let them talk him into getting close to whales who could topple the boat easily. That just makes no sense. My first concern and primary objective would be to get us all to safety. I would have told them to take pictures, while we carefully kept going. There's no way I would have gotten closer to whales when everyone aside from Joshua was already fragile. I guess people don't have my survival instincts. SMH. I'm glad at least Joshua survived.
2:24 they’re okay but please make sure you’re also carrying: comprehensive survival kit, signaling options, extra layers (even and especially if it’s 68F and “we’re only doing the 2 mile nature loop”) There are FAR too many stories over recent years about day excursions that devolved to massive tragedies simply because the trekkers prepared poorly. Or not at all
My dad was stationed there in the Air Force and he said it was like that back and the hell Frozen patternless if you went there you could very easily wander around lost and not recognize any landmarks because it's all humps that look the same.
This was a hard one to listen to idk if I’m mad about the idea of having bikes out there smh idk this was a great but very sad story im going to read the article this was just frustrating RIP to them smh 🙏🏾
Crazy people for a crazy story, with no tryouts or experience in that environment! With bicycles on ice! Anyway, congratulations: very well put together. You are very good at making these documentaries.
I've posted links in replies on other channels, and YT have removed my reply. But google Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and the article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay should be first result which shows up.
I don't think he mentioned a link, so I just googled Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and an article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay by him on OutsideOnline was the first result which showed up.
Usually people would be saying things like "At least they died doing what they loved." but instead it's people wondering how stupid they had to have been to use bicycles and not be prepared.
Maybe it's just me YT dislike, but the've removed my replies when I've previously tried posting links in replies. But google Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and an article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay should be first result which shows up.
Joshua took a week to find them after he was already told how dire their situation was? Dude. That guy should have been held accountable for failing to get a rescue party out there. Someone should have just called for help. This whole thing is ridiculous.
Love adventurers living life to the fullest. The video left out the locals telling them bikes would never work. Sleds pulled by people or dogs are immensely difficult. Other than planning a route did they not research or talk to the experts, ie the Inuit?
Taking bikes was stupid. You shouldn't set off on a major expedition like this without doing a good "shakedown cruise" to test your plans, equipment, and capabilities. These folks should have done 3 or 4 days on Baffin Island with their bikes and full-expedition loads, but close to shelter and rescue. This would have clued them in to the problems with their biking plans...dumb plans that started a chain of errors that ended in death. Another huge mistake: taking a woman without accounting for the fact that she'd have a much lower metabolic rate than the men. This would make her far more vulnerable to hypothermia and frostbite. This is why Sharon died first. A 24-year-old woman has the same metabolic rate as a 54 to 64-year-old man...
wtf are you talking about? Women conserve fat and water better than men. She was smaller so would consume less. Nature equips women to survive BETTER, because men are disposable, as are literally all males of any species. 😂 Women also live longer on average, across cultures, all over the world, than men. The universe and facts doesn’t care about your weak masculinity. This is the dumbest 4Chan shit I’ve ever read.
Out'a the Fry'n Pan into the Fire huh?...over mtnBike'n across some god foresaken ice cube because they thought it would be fun..the Hallowed Halls of the Darwin Awards seemz to Constantly be Growing,,,RockOn🌎📽️🎶🎶🎶
Oh, hey, wait Terror Twin narrator! What happened to Joshua? Did he live out the rest of his life making fires and foraging in the Tundra? Was he ever rescued? Did he die there?
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Thinking you could ride a bicycle across a frozen tundra, is like thinking you could move across the desert on a canoe.
😂
You might have more luck with the canoe. You might be able to ride down a dune in it.
I swear I got annoyed at this part
Ever met a cyclist?
Dats funny
Using bicycles ? WTF! 😮 I come from the Arctic Europe and we definitely do use bikes in the winter. But only on roads. Not off roads and not for weeks. That is crazy. No one up here would ever think about that.
When you want to go on an expedition in a harsh or hot climate, always talk to the natives of that place. They know.
If it was that easy to ride a bike off road on ice and snow on Baffin Island, people would do it. But they don’t.
I delivered the morning paper by bicycle a whole winter with temperatures -20, -30 below freezing point, with a lot of snow storms, and I had to drag my bike some days for miles in deep snow. So no, I would never use a bike for off road expeditions in the Arctic.
Yeah I really can't wrap my head around that decision. Just why.
@@daniellec2172 Why, why, why? That’s the question. Has there ever been a several week long bike expedition, before or after, off road in Arctic winter climate? I highly doubt it.
Maybe one crazy person with lots of experience of cold weather and ice/snow may have done that. But not a whole team.
This decision made them starve. And when they fell in to the ice cold water, they had no fat reserve that could help them fight.
It’s hard to survive in such cold water. Nearly impossible. But it’s 10 times harder when you have lost a lot of fat and the body has been eating from the muscles. It makes you weak. Not the ultimate in the Arctic. Or Antarctic.
This is a tragedy that could have been easily avoided.
Skis with a sled behind or snow shoes with a sleigh attached to the body. And trekking poles or ski poles. That’s the way people have been moving from on place to another for thousands of years in the Arctic.
And of course people have been moving with the help of dogs in Greenland and Northern Canada. And reindeers in Arctic Europe. But that would have been too complicated for this team.
It’s unbelievable and incredibly amazing that one person survived this ordeal. Like an action movie with Bruce Willis. Die Hard Arctic.
@merrymaid2890 at some point in time nobody had ever tried scaling mount everest until people did and why why why would people want to do that? Same shit applies here so I don't know why people are acting ignorant
@@isabellindlind I’m so sorry, but English is my second language and I’m also autistic. I’m not sure what’s the meaning with your answer. What you want to tell me.
@@TWJCole Climbing Mount Everest for the first time was a challenge, and accomplishing it an achievement. Pushing a mountainbike up Mount Everest would be stupidity. Same applies for these 4: Crossing arctic territory is a challenge, doing it while pushing mountainbikes is stupidity. Why? Because them damn things don't do you any good, because you can't ride a bike on snow. In snow a mountainbike is just an unwieldy weight you have to push and carry everywhere.
Riding bicycles in the Arctic could be the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard of. It’s a miracle that they didn’t perish in the first part of their trip. I can’t believe anyone agreed to this idiocy.
Mountain biking in the Artic isn't uncommon but ok
Very normal to ride bikes int he snow in northern places. They use those fat wheel tires though, not the standard skinny ones.
@@TWJCole To the store or school. Not on along expedition. That is sheer madness!
12 minutes in I realized that they..as experienced adventurers should have known better..
The bicycle idea was pure lunacy. Then, they got a second chance and it got even more crazy..."Let's watch whales." Sad. Very.
As soon as Dan said " let's get closer," I got a sinkjng feeling in my stomach! That far away from anything, why would you take unnecessary chances? Big whale, small boat, freezing water, bad combination!
They like 1/2 starved and decided to like hang out for 6 hrs; like hit the gas and get the f outta there. Like why delay your exit further.
@@_nick_d but they originally plan to sail/kayak across that same stretch of water! So there’s no reason not to “trust” that aluminum boat with a motor!
It’s ironic they survived their ill-planned land journey only to die when they were in the charge of a local who they believe would have enough experience to keep them safe.
They dodged a bullet . Why would they not be content woth that rather than looking fior another " experoence " ?
maybe the whale had some sort of inherited memory of how its ancestors had been hunted and butchered in the tens of thousands, for centuries.
Sad for all of their families. Can't imagine what they went through to end up like frozen
Popsicles. Not my cup of tea. Life is challenging enough especially these days as it is.
Why the fuck would anyone think a bike is going to be ideal in snow/ice, while hailing luggage, and climbing? Put as big of studded tires on that thing as you want, it's only going to impede you.
U know nothing about Baffin island. Just being there may kill u . It's mount Everest in horizontal.
@@LimHoochinso that makes even less sense to bring a bike now doesn't it?
The crazy part is that ended up having nothing to do with their ends somehow
I can just imagine a group of Inuit locals seeing these goofs on bicycles pulling their supplies. I mean they didn't even have a metal thing to go around the back tires to keep the rope from getting stuck in the tire. Obviously none of them were engineers. The Inuits must have immediately known they were Americans by how they used bikes in place of a dog sled
🚲 🛷🛷🛷 👈🏻😂
@@danielstokes6934 but Mike at least had an impressive bunch of Seaweed - shame those cheeky locals wouldn’t let on if it was best for bum wiping or eating . 🙄
Personally, I wouldn’t agree that things went “terribly wrong” with this group’s plan. Based on the details you provided about the groups decision making before and during the trip, everything went according to plan. Imagine being so numb to life that you only get a dopamine rush from creating a life-threatening situation for yourself deliberately with only the hope of a little feeling good after 30 days of intense suffering.
Yeah!! The great expense & the intense bodily suffering such people put themselves through is so strange to me-- but these stories really are fascinating.
Well said !!
and selling your spouse to widowhood, and abandoning your child forever... just to taste that self-indulgence. Absolutely repulsive betrayal!
Their willingness to pay the cost of abandoning a spouse to widowhood or orphan a child is just evil.
Mountain biking across snow and ice....🤦🤦♂🤦♀
I did a kilometer of that with a loaded touring bike once, because a pass hadn't been plowed yet. Sheer fucking misery.
You have to be insane to willingly travel through such miserable country for so long.
But one of the guys actually worked as a mental Heath specialist 😁👍
Couldn't have just vacationed in Cancun like normal people huh? Their lifeline was a guy that might be out fishing and can't pick them up, or did I miss something? Poorly planned "expedition".
Reminds me of the time those Brits tried crossing Antarctica riding camels fitted with snowshoes lol
I..what?😧...what??!
They attached a snow plow to the front of an elephant to make paths where the snow was to high for the camels to walk
@@danielstokes6934 this makes for a good plot for an ‘awayday’ episode of The Only Way is Essex 😁
😮😮😮Omw... Are you serious.. I've never heard of this..
Crazy enough that you can’t tell if it’s real or not. Bravo to you and big fail for humanity that a person has to even question if this is real 🙈
Didn’t they try biking on ice and snow before they went on their trip?
@@jamesmartin7595 well they were from Wyoming and it snows a lot so it possibly they did
@@dondiewilks3258 Obviously not.
Ok guys, lets take our bikes and protein bars to the Arctic. It will be fun... Almost no survival skills, no hunting equipment... And fun goes away and sadness will remain...
Unbelievable. I’m sorry but as much as you think these two friends were something special, they didn’t have the brains to stop and think: “hey, bicycles are a very very bad idea.” No thank you. I won’t read his mini-biography
Whale watching wasnt such a good idea either. Why not endeavor to avoid Whales?
@@MarlinWilliams-ts5ul You definitely should, there are laws against it and it's demonstrably dangerous. 😂
because i generally struggle to get out of bed or bother to water my house plants ,i have to admit a terrible satisfaction in seeing explorers being seriously challenged.
Thank you for your efforts behind sharing this adventure
😃👍
Plant Abuse.
I I secretly feel the same way Pixie.
@@MichaelIto-h7v ask my Spider plants - they even get fed & share Tort UV if they’re lucky 😃
@@newforestpixie5297 My bad! 🙂
This is why you stress test yourself, your team, your gear and your setup before your goal trip. This is why HSE and proper sailing gear for boats and boat personell is so rigorous. So that you have a chance of survival even if you hit freezing waters. This is just a checklist for what not to do.
GREAT video! The Outside Magazine article is fabulous. Most poignant in it is author Mark Jenkin's final paragraph. "The sorrow and emptiness, for all of us, are still so immense, so unspeakable. For too long in life, some of us, myself included, willfully believe that we have the right to risk our lives, that our lives are ours and ours alone to lose. But watching Justin grow up without his father has taught me that this is a self-serving lie." If you read the whole story, this becomes 100 times more powerful. All three of Mike Moe's children sank into grief, despair, drugs, alcohol, and homelessness. One eventually died and one spent time in prison. Still, Mark Jenkins, with kids of his own, continues to climb and participate in extremely high-risk adventures. Men and women like this simply can't stop; it's a death sentence. They continue until it kills them. (Love the "strum" when the dates change. )
Is normal life very nice ? No excitement, nothing. Think.
@@LimHoochin absolutely. His example of ending up homeless with family in disarray must be an outlier yet 2 examples immediately spring to mind - those youngish folk -whom stubbornly ignored locals’ warnings . A German lads’ determination to cross a dangerous ‘gap’ in Bolivia or Columbia or the solo girl canoeist attempts to traverse the entire Amazon down the Andes - who’d persisted onto a village renowned for banditry …
i found myself thinking of the emotional toil upon everyone whom loved them along with each deaths’ exponential effect.
Thank you!
Thank you OP (named Zztop) for the GREAT comment! It should be pinned!
So sad… All the hardships they endured on their expedition. Very interesting story. Thank you.
I love adventure vacations and challenges - but enter in freezing cold temps and I am out!
Sharon’s last words got me choked up. I hope they are at complete peace now. ❤🙏🏻
"cozy warm 5 degree celcius" I can feel the shiver down my spine
I had a similar reaction.
5 degrees is nothing. It isn't cosy if you're naked, but you don't need many clothes to feel comfortable. Unless it's windy, which is a different story. But at plus 5, even in wind it doesn't take a lot more clothing to feel very cosy. You can ski cross country very comfortably until about minus 25 C.
5 degrees Celsius is fine, it's not freezing and yeah it's cold but no more than a winter day
if those people had spouses and children, they were utterly selfish to have taken such risks ...leaving them orphaned and widowed for their own vain glory is worse than the abandonment of cheating. Absolutely repulsive.
So they actually managed to survive and then decide to do something stupid like get too close to the whales? Really?
Excellent video. Thank you. The real tragedy is what became of Mike’s children. Mark Jenkin’s article was sobering.
I'm not able to open it for some reason. Can you tell me what happened to them?
His article is fantastic
Whales may be developing the desire for revenge.
Revenge for what? They're protected. Usually these attacks are because they perceive a boat as being something like a whale, and if they're territorial or it's mating season, they'll attack. A pod of orca off Spain have started systematically attacking boats apparently simply because it's fun
The boaters pushed their luck and encroached on the primitive whales sanctuary. Man's curiousity and a whales survival instinct at odds the whales swim on.
Who could blame them?
@@nyanbinary1717 In truth!
revenge for what, precisely?
That’s my idea of hell and I’m a cyclist first, love biking, hate biking in the wind, worse yet biking in the cold and wind.
How did the last one get rescued ? Did I miss something ?
I have the same question
The details aren’t specific, but when he washed up on shore he was not far from a small village. The assumption is he was close enough to get help!
I swear people look at me like I am crazy with the amount of food I carry but don't really eat. I mean if I was them I would say I am a little off as well; however, the military trained me very well in survival. Eat as little as possible and conserve the rest. Survival in harsh environments will test your fortitude and even the best trained soldiers and civilians will be taxed beyond belief. You cant take any chances unless your suicidal
Agree, but even if you're not trained, what about common sense... 🤷♀️🙆♀️🤦♀️
So how was the last guy rescued?
Another excellent episode
Damn, how tragic, they got really unlucky with the whale, but Louie failing to drop off their boats, survival suits and more equipment is just unfair and reckless, though I'm sure he didn't want them to die, his self-absorption ensured they'd be at great risk of starving or going missing, let alone falling into the water by getting too close to the whales (something he should have said "No" to as someone I'd presume would be experienced with wildlife in Baffin Bay). What was the point of paying him if he wasn't going to turn up or send someone else, or raise the alarm that they're overdue, or try contacting them. Just apathy on his account. Very kind and _selfless_ of Mike to say it wasn't Louie's fault, even as he was taking his last breaths. Pretty remarkable group of explorers, all seemed to be decent people. RIP.
Negligent manslaughter, bordering on murder.
I get wanting to do a dangerous expedition, but they should have told more people where they were going and to call the authorities if they hadn’t checked in by a certain date. The fact they didn’t starve initially is a miracle.
Once rescued, their one and only priority should have been to reach civilization fast as possible, not go sight-seeing after a narrow brush with death.
The hubris of some people is amazing and enough to get them killed. And absolutely senseless tragedy.
Wow. This is insane! They survived the trek only to perish from a whale attack. That's very unfortunate.
The whale didn't attack them, there was zero intent on its part. It just happened to breech where they were
They put themselves in that situation rather than be satisfied by their rescue .
The whale did not attack. They did not respect the distance n the size of the whale.
Wait.... how was the last survivor rescued?
When he washed up on shore he was close to a small village!
You put together a beautiful video.
❤, from Texas
Thank you!
Why did they go so late in the season?
Gosh, its a wonder bikes never made a bigger impact in the climbing community... maybe skateboards will be the next big thing 🤣🤣
Great channel. Keep up the amazing work.
Wow- what a story. I need a hot chocolate now. Polar plunge on the next level- what a bizarre way to go.
I knew Mike and Dan Moe met them in Laramie, Wyoming
The last time I seen all them ( the expedition team) Trudy and I ( Dan and mike sister)dropped them off at Denver airport
And that was the last time we seen them
I remember the phone call Trudy got that night about Dan Mike and Sharon and Brad
May they rest in peace
May they rest in peace
Just how stupid you have to be to carry bikes to such a place??🤯 I need an extra mind to be blown...one of the most absurdly stupid people I've ever heard about!
Speechless 🤐
I read the article you recommended. Thank you for sharing--excellent piece. And this is an excellent podcast.
Why? Why? Sounds like they tried to pick the hardest most weirdest kind of track ever just to see if they could do it.
People do that all the time literally
Some people like an easy life, others enjoy over coming challenges.
Remembered as incredibly reckless and careless. What a clown show.
🚲🛷 🚲🛷 🚲🛷 🚲🛷
"Ok we're all set, hop on your bikes!!!"...
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Holy crap, I guess Bowhead Whales should be the ones called "killer" whales.
If they all died, how does the narrator know what was said between them during their last moments?
Aside from the lunacy of bikes, the most amazing part is how on earth did Joshua survive? His story at the end is missing.
El jurado del Premio Darwin cada vez lo tiene mas dificil
I've done hundreds of solo rock climbs in northern Thailand and a few dozen in Namibia and SW USA. They last a few hours. I take only a water bottle. I can't handle cold. Ouch.
Jushua must have been haunted surviving this tragedy. It's haunting to think about.
Joshua gets his drinks bought as he tells the story of the 4 white morons
Im from baffin island
Hobie is pronounced Hoe-Bee, not hobby.
Mountaineering!!! LETS GOOO!!
Great narration if this story👌🏻
Joshua was a bit useless. Turning up 7 days after the fact, they could have starved to death in that time. It might had been better, rather than freezing to death
You know they weren't right around the corner, right? It took him 7 days to get there likely because of where he was and the conditions when they contacted him. He wasn't expecting them to contact him then in the first place so no, he wasn't useless. You can't even blame him for the whale thing. They were ALL adults and the ones who'd already been out there starving for a couple of weeks were the ones insisting on getting closer to the whales. These people were all well aware of the conditions and planned their own trip and were stupid about it.
I was wondering what the distance and conditions encountered would dictate reasonable travel time to be. And if it is a long distance and/or difficult conditions, count on something unexpected to happen that will suck time and resources. Now I want to learn more. Enjoyed your comments. 💯
Dudes gotta feed his family, not wait around for 4 privledged arrogant Americans to call for rescue from their comically planned midlife crisis.
mountain bikes lmfao
Why not RollerSkates?🌎 😆
@@edpublic this was the worst planned excursion....they ran out of food and their ride home was on a fishing trip
@MikeHunt-fo3ow they should fire who'ever books their Vacations🍺
@MikeHunt-fo3ow it's like cityfolk 101 take on Everest
@@edpublic lol
I've lived in Canada, not arctic Canada, but "cold Canada" (more than two hours north of the border).
As soon as I heard bikes I thought "so, you can't ride your bike in Wyoming's winter, but you seem to think you can ride it on a glacier"
These are not Californians. They lived somewhere with cold and snowy winters. This sounds like a really complicated and expensive way to die of misadventure. Caving/cave diving is much quicker.
I'm freezing now and its 7 ⁰ uk 😂
lol I’m here in Pasadena California and the 70 degree Fahrenheit is chilly😂 have my thermals on today 🙋🏼♀️
@stedydubdetroit oh you poor thing... 😉🫠
How did you type the little zero for 'degrees'? I've sometimes wondered why they don't have that provision on keyboards. Same for 1/2 and 1/4 and a little 2 for 'squared' as in CO2.
@brahmburgers if you keep the zero 0 pressed down it should give you the options. Also the 1 pressed down should. 👍
And 2 ² ⅔ ⅖ ¼ etc
Why doesn’t this channel have as many subs and Scary Interesting??
The stories are just as good
his voice and repetitive music are annoying. sometimes I put it on mute and read CC
As sad as I am for them, I will never understand putting yourself in danger when you have a family at home - this is more insane than climbing Everest in my opinion
What a terrible end
They moved through the ice and snow like everybody else, like the Inuit do since time immemorial - with mountainbikes 🤣
What?! Being concerned about pictures when you've just survived being stranded? OK. Have they never heard of Moby Dick? SMH. There's a reason to be vigilant. If you've just survived being rescued, safety and security need to be your top priorities and even the smallest whale is big enough to topple a boat of that size. I find it so incredible that Joshua would let them talk him into getting close to whales who could topple the boat easily. That just makes no sense. My first concern and primary objective would be to get us all to safety. I would have told them to take pictures, while we carefully kept going. There's no way I would have gotten closer to whales when everyone aside from Joshua was already fragile. I guess people don't have my survival instincts. SMH. I'm glad at least Joshua survived.
2:24 they’re okay but please make sure you’re also carrying: comprehensive survival kit, signaling options, extra layers (even and especially if it’s 68F and “we’re only doing the 2 mile nature loop”) There are FAR too many stories over recent years about day excursions that devolved to massive tragedies simply because the trekkers prepared poorly. Or not at all
Boosting the algorithm ✌️
you would think it would be common sense that biking on ice is a stupid idea 🤦♀️
It's actually a common thing to do. You can look up videos of people doing it successfully.
@@bluesteel8376 on glaciers?? where there are crevasses and god knows what else? it doesn’t work in that environment
Walking down my driveway when it’s covered in ice is enough for me
Oh my 😮
The 'God, take my spirit' got me
My dad was stationed there in the Air Force and he said it was like that back and the hell Frozen patternless if you went there you could very easily wander around lost and not recognize any landmarks because it's all humps that look the same.
This was a hard one to listen to idk if I’m mad about the idea of having bikes out there smh idk this was a great but very sad story im going to read the article this was just frustrating RIP to them smh 🙏🏾
Crazy people for a crazy story, with no tryouts or experience in that environment! With bicycles on ice! Anyway, congratulations: very well put together. You are very good at making these documentaries.
The only 4 people on earth who thought a trip across the barnes ice cap - on bicycles - was a good idea. With 100 lb backpacks.
Poor planning a d faulty decision making
I am so easy and cool. I see TerrorTwin posting. I am clicking to watch 🤩
😅 Thank you!
Link for the originals story in Outside megazine ?
I've posted links in replies on other channels, and YT have removed my reply. But google Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and the article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay should be first result which shows up.
@aprilt7080 www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/baffin-bay-tragedy-mike-moe-wyoming-alpine-club/
Thanx for telling us how Joshua got from the beach meadow to salvation..... SMH
I’ve heard this story before i live in Clyde river born here now im 24 years old
Where’s the link to the story you refer to at the end?
I don't think he mentioned a link, so I just googled Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and an article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay by him on OutsideOnline was the first result which showed up.
@@FinnishLapphundsame, just finished reading it
www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/exploration-survival/baffin-bay-tragedy-mike-moe-wyoming-alpine-club/
Usually people would be saying things like "At least they died doing what they loved." but instead it's people wondering how stupid they had to have been to use bicycles and not be prepared.
so did the last one survive and how? or did they all die and their final days were just guessed at?
Mark Jenkins outside magazine link?
Maybe it's just me YT dislike, but the've removed my replies when I've previously tried posting links in replies. But google Mark Jenkins Baffin Bay, and an article named Tragedy in Baffin Bay should be first result which shows up.
If they all DIEDHOW DO YOU KNOW WHO SAID WHAT AND WHEN???????
WATCH IT AGAIN AND TRY TAKING IN THE INFORMATION THIS TIME!!
One survived 😩
One of them survived after he washed up on shore
Joshua took a week to find them after he was already told how dire their situation was? Dude. That guy should have been held accountable for failing to get a rescue party out there. Someone should have just called for help. This whole thing is ridiculous.
Sounds like a cool adventure.
Love adventurers living life to the fullest. The video left out the locals telling them bikes would never work. Sleds pulled by people or dogs are immensely difficult. Other than planning a route did they not research or talk to the experts, ie the Inuit?
What happened to Joshua?
Taking bikes was stupid. You shouldn't set off on a major expedition like this without doing a good "shakedown cruise" to test your plans, equipment, and capabilities. These folks should have done 3 or 4 days on Baffin Island with their bikes and full-expedition loads, but close to shelter and rescue. This would have clued them in to the problems with their biking plans...dumb plans that started a chain of errors that ended in death.
Another huge mistake: taking a woman without accounting for the fact that she'd have a much lower metabolic rate than the men. This would make her far more vulnerable to hypothermia and frostbite. This is why Sharon died first. A 24-year-old woman has the same metabolic rate as a 54 to 64-year-old man...
wtf are you talking about? Women conserve fat and water better than men. She was smaller so would consume less. Nature equips women to survive BETTER, because men are disposable, as are literally all males of any species. 😂 Women also live longer on average, across cultures, all over the world, than men. The universe and facts doesn’t care about your weak masculinity. This is the dumbest 4Chan shit I’ve ever read.
Out'a the Fry'n Pan into the Fire huh?...over mtnBike'n across some god foresaken ice cube because they thought it would be fun..the Hallowed Halls of the Darwin Awards seemz to Constantly be Growing,,,RockOn🌎📽️🎶🎶🎶
the story is like a comical tragedy of errors...
I feel like the title should be "Whales Maliciously Murder Expedition Team"
Unless a person is an unmarried, childless orphan, this is total selfishness
It Frobisher Bay not Baffin Bay
No that area is Baffin Bay, Frobisher Bay is the bay Iqaluit is located off of. The expedition went further north up the island.
@ it’s not Baffin nay it’s Qamanituaq
Oh, hey, wait Terror Twin narrator! What happened to Joshua? Did he live out the rest of his life making fires and foraging in the Tundra? Was he ever rescued? Did he die there?
I believe your route map of Denali is in error. Approach to Cassin Ridge is wrong.
Bikes. Sailboats. This has to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. These people cursed themselves before they even left.
So.. anyone else doubt those were really her last words? I'd imagine it was something less dignified, like "why couldn't we have gone to cuba"
....dude, what
why......