Kinda nitpicky but the ammo change is more of a 7-10% nerf. Almost any time any dex weapon is hitting you they are already sitting on 150% base damage, so in practice I don't think it'd ever be as low as 5%. I do think there's a bit more to comment on there though. If it truly is base damage, then base damage reduction gets even worse against those weapons, and those weapons have LESS incentive to prioritize their own base damage in their builds. For example, bolt caster lights/heavies are on 15% (light armor)+20% (bolt passive)+5% (enchanted) = 140% base damage multipliers without even including anything from the bow tree (where they get an additional 10% for heavies and 10% for further than 10m, making it 160%). This is actually a larger nerf to boltcaster than it is to other bow builds, especially because boltcaster is also forced to take enchanted. I think what we're going to see from dex weapons is less focus on base damage and boltcaster itself will likely fall out of favor entirely unless you're just going glass cannon 49% empower with evasive tactics. I don't really know what will bubble up as a meta option but I'm sure with all of the time and coin people have already put in to boltcaster builds that it will be a while before anyone cooks up something more optimal. But overall this is a pretty big dps nerf if ammo is replaced with base dmg. This is like everyone getting free Koya's. Med bow spear with shirking heals and the hoplite crap will probably slap though. Unless they're introducing some new counter to DoTs that I am missing.
@@DblTapSlapMcGap Kinda depends on what you're comparing it to or how you play. It was the best burst bow still if you were full glass cannon, and the only bow that could make light attacks hit hard (thus making it optimal for sweaty war builds built around animation cancels). Its only real downside was bad ult charge imo. Now it gives you way more base dmg than you want on top of a perk that probably isn't BiS anymore (enchanted) alongside a perk that def isn't BiS (shirking lightning). It's kind of ass at that point unless you're going full harnessing but afaik that was a niche build.
Re 300 con change and suggesting War Hammer will be ideal for PVE offhand, I don't disagree but I'd say Greatsword just became even better because of the block whilst heavy attack passive you get with it. Paired with The Wall, this allows you to deal damage, retain agro, block extremely well and, now, give you the only way to avoiding staggers reliably. This just happens to be my build already so I'm ok with this.
There is a good value with Upheaval : the perk allows you to transfer 2 debuffs. There is the kite artifact that removes debuff on block. And you got debuff removal on heavy atks. If you play a full lifesteal build, you can be unkillable while playign in medium, dealing good dmg, and being impossible to debuff your ls. I theory crafted the build and im going for it
@@dsmluck Well if you have an high enough amount of base damage increase and empowers, you can reduce the negative effect of the ring. I made calculations and if i go with 200 con instead of 300 con i do as much damage. Lets say its a tradeoff, and the lifesteal you get is nut
Due to target lock Im actually fuckin with Tether since its basically a guaranteed hit. 20% empower for 10s is solid. With the perk its a decent slow as well when chasing people. Within 15-20 meters it basically never misses due to its projectile speed. Right side of VG gained a lot from lock on imo. Still haven't got power stone but once i do its a wrap. Running up to someone for a duel and lasering them with tether plus Power Stone's effect is 40% weaken lol.
everyone will receive +40 attribute that they will add to CON and we will get an even longer TTK, and taking into account the cutting damage on the bow, musket, gunnery gun, this kills these classes, from ranged combat we are left to dominate and the fire staff gets a boost, and new the artifact ring will increase his damage even more
healers are gonna be absolute tanks lol and the new haste perk if you have at least one of those on your armor. With you always being a high priority target youre gonna have almost like a 80% uptime on haste with the new haste perk
This is what worries me the most about the new meta to be honest. The TTK is already too high, and I don't think think they thought this through too much.
Defensively is where spear comes in to play for a 1v1. I definitely agree that in pursuit a spear ain't it. But if I get that great ax or s&s dude that is rushing me constantly and I'm always pulling the spear out
I tried this in the past when they last changed grit on attacks, and Greatsword + Rupture with WH seemed to work just as well as GA WH for bruiser. It can be much tankier but less potential for burst damage than the GA produced
@@mecr0w thats what im thinking, maybe Poison Spear + one of the named GS (they have rupture + thwarting + something else, with ranger or soldier attributes) would be worth a try
and a new perk that reduces the damage from bunker effects by 7% for each part, here are options for reducing the effects, I also remembered that stone skin also removes effects, but why put together a build against it when it’s easier to whine on the forum to get something cut. When they ask to cut heals, everyone writes that you will assemble an anti-healing assembly, which hardly works at all, the healing is still too high even with a 50% penalty
@mecrow do you know if they fixed the GS abilities? Like Crosscut desyncs back to the first hit in combo so you don’t get any movement, or if skyward can now be directionally turned again? Or the slow/self root startup on relentless rush?
Meteor Shower also had duration increased to 6 seconds, so does more total damage and keeps Disease longer. That can make it more viable in PVE group content too (and Disease if not needed can be just skipped since it is the last upgrade). It also no longer has a cast time and now has a weird staff spinning animation to activate, but it is still faster than previous 1 second cast. They also changed Incinerate upgrades, but likely for the worse - now it is just worse Maelstrom with lower damage, lower radius, lower Weaken and 1 hit instead of 2. Really needs another design pass / buffs. As for FFA island - it would likely be heaven for Muskets (long-ranged and single-target focused so less likely to hit potential flagged allies) and to less extent Bows and Fire Staves (also ranged, but either more AoE focused so can hurt melee allies or with lower range for abilities).
Hi ! Do we have any precisions on the fact that the new mechanic : when we stagger someone after a dodge he get stam out ! is in fact a new intended mechanic or a bug ? any intel on that ?
Another year, another nerf to bruiser role and buffs for mages with the three new artifacts for them. I swear...like INT/split stat elemental damage builds weren't strong enough. Now 50 more stats to dump into split stat dps output. Nerfing single stat builds like bruisers that only see play in Wars is bizarre.
19:40 where did you get this information from? the damage on the live server without cartridges was 3% more than on the test client, there is no increase in base damage, there is a nerf by 3% and another -20% that the bullets themselves gave, they killed classes that use consumables to increase their damage
It’s great in pve still but in pvp it’s not as good. They looked at buffing flèche recently but it got reverted after feedback was given that it was hella op
@@mecr0w i still think that they could force a ligth atack after evade. (then evade would only be used for offencive instead of op defencive), and maybe lower the cd just a bit increase the ofencive capacity of the rapier
The Nature's wrath is honestly stupid. Its getting nerfed because of fire staff.... so just nerf fire staff. Now Nature's wrath will feel useless for everything else
The problem is int builds with fs being the biggest problem. I said runeglass and harness are problem due to the flat untimed base empower. The fact you can have near empower cap with flat 20 percent dmg is nuts. Fs also had int rework for highest base dmg tree, flint stick with vicious and Alacritous punishment. Just gross and honestly just carries people. Extremely high floor weapon.
yo this stagger will bring melees and range players further from each other. this is not good for the fast combat gameplay.... range players will try to shoot only form save positions cuz in close range they will haver no chance. what about the bow ammo change? sad bow dont get any reworks/buffs - musket is faster and deal more dmg and firestaff is on top over a year....
People don’t use rapier because it requires extreme accuracy and was easy to avoid. Now with target lock it’s going to be the best DPS in PvP I guarantee it. Aka AGS REMOVE TARGET LOCK 😮💨😮💨😮💨
@@mecr0w I play very aggressive as a Tank - in fact, I barely right click with my shield as you can see from my vids. Based on the calculations I run, I saw a great performance increase with Counter Attack, as it also procs from Greatsword defensive skill tree.
btw., the hammer could also previously have grit, and still can on its heavies, with the grit on heavy passive. which anyone takes.. specially the 300 con tanks..so it doesnt really change much for WH. but it (300 con change)could mean alot for a few other weapons ;)
I can summarize the thoughts I’ve heard right now: 1. All range w ammo is taking a base dmg nerf (not fs) 2. Other artifacts are almost as good as the one fs is losing 3. Fs artifact gained a gemslot and a 15% dmg buff within 15m. This is effectively like a 20-25% base dmg increase. 4. Runeglass gems proc the ring that is coming out (delayed). Also a 10ish% dmg buff. 5. Meteor shower disease is crazy strong and the empower built into it carries the fs in mid-large scale
@@mecr0w ok fair enough, I suppose large scale that makes sense but I think small scale it’s going to be awful. Meteor shower that clump sure but outside of that it’s lost a lot of ST burst.
@@MASTERVAVI lol, insane huh? surely if it was that insane we would see it used outside of niche builds completely centered around hitting 1 spike. And even with a fully specialized build its underwhelming.
@@knockoff5924 I would have to disagree. It serves it's purpose and used correctly you can cast spikes every 3-5seconds. Insane deeps. I even used with musket and it worked too. IG/VG great build almost S tier. FS/IG S-tier as well. Are these niche builds ?
@@MASTERVAVI You can go play opr/arena all day and MIGHT find one guy running an ig/vg spike build. And as I just said, that's the whole build. Have fun trying to hit two 4 hit spikes in a row for a whopping 10-12k total damage. And that's only if you get some crits. The hatchet does that in 3 swings....Right now ig/vg is a support build that runs med or heavy so whatever S-tier build you're talking about isn't an IG/VG spike build. Anyone playing an optimized FS/IG isn't running spike. You'd never get into a war running spike over something like pylon or shower. In small scale, you'd much rather want shower or pylon. Maybe there's an argument for spike in duels but right now spike is just a flashy skill that is satisfying to get a kill with, but for 99% of players it has no place in serious pvp.
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Kinda nitpicky but the ammo change is more of a 7-10% nerf. Almost any time any dex weapon is hitting you they are already sitting on 150% base damage, so in practice I don't think it'd ever be as low as 5%. I do think there's a bit more to comment on there though. If it truly is base damage, then base damage reduction gets even worse against those weapons, and those weapons have LESS incentive to prioritize their own base damage in their builds. For example, bolt caster lights/heavies are on 15% (light armor)+20% (bolt passive)+5% (enchanted) = 140% base damage multipliers without even including anything from the bow tree (where they get an additional 10% for heavies and 10% for further than 10m, making it 160%). This is actually a larger nerf to boltcaster than it is to other bow builds, especially because boltcaster is also forced to take enchanted.
I think what we're going to see from dex weapons is less focus on base damage and boltcaster itself will likely fall out of favor entirely unless you're just going glass cannon 49% empower with evasive tactics. I don't really know what will bubble up as a meta option but I'm sure with all of the time and coin people have already put in to boltcaster builds that it will be a while before anyone cooks up something more optimal. But overall this is a pretty big dps nerf if ammo is replaced with base dmg. This is like everyone getting free Koya's.
Med bow spear with shirking heals and the hoplite crap will probably slap though. Unless they're introducing some new counter to DoTs that I am missing.
That’s good to know. Ty!
bolt caster was already underwhelming to begin with.
@@DblTapSlapMcGap Kinda depends on what you're comparing it to or how you play. It was the best burst bow still if you were full glass cannon, and the only bow that could make light attacks hit hard (thus making it optimal for sweaty war builds built around animation cancels). Its only real downside was bad ult charge imo. Now it gives you way more base dmg than you want on top of a perk that probably isn't BiS anymore (enchanted) alongside a perk that def isn't BiS (shirking lightning). It's kind of ass at that point unless you're going full harnessing but afaik that was a niche build.
Thank you, been hearing about this and that nerf but wasn't able to find a compiled source for changes. You da best!
Re 300 con change and suggesting War Hammer will be ideal for PVE offhand, I don't disagree but I'd say Greatsword just became even better because of the block whilst heavy attack passive you get with it. Paired with The Wall, this allows you to deal damage, retain agro, block extremely well and, now, give you the only way to avoiding staggers reliably. This just happens to be my build already so I'm ok with this.
Ayyy keep up these videos. Fingers crossed for a good turnout next month!
There is a good value with Upheaval : the perk allows you to transfer 2 debuffs. There is the kite artifact that removes debuff on block. And you got debuff removal on heavy atks. If you play a full lifesteal build, you can be unkillable while playign in medium, dealing good dmg, and being impossible to debuff your ls. I theory crafted the build and im going for it
Would you use blood drinker?
@@dsmluck yes
@@bonbarmandrink How do you keep damage up with that 25% debuff?
@@dsmluck Well if you have an high enough amount of base damage increase and empowers, you can reduce the negative effect of the ring. I made calculations and if i go with 200 con instead of 300 con i do as much damage. Lets say its a tradeoff, and the lifesteal you get is nut
Took a break from playing and content with this game. Returning to test things so this was a good catch up
Due to target lock Im actually fuckin with Tether since its basically a guaranteed hit. 20% empower for 10s is solid. With the perk its a decent slow as well when chasing people. Within 15-20 meters it basically never misses due to its projectile speed. Right side of VG gained a lot from lock on imo.
Still haven't got power stone but once i do its a wrap. Running up to someone for a duel and lasering them with tether plus Power Stone's effect is 40% weaken lol.
I wish there was a alternate reality were target lock never came and i was able to get excited about these changes like i use too
Yeah I’ve decided to just go play ESO PvP if they don’t remove target lock from PvP in new world
they will remove it, look at their comments on their youtube videos they have been dropping on official new world page.
@@pearson674 They never actually listen to players. (Outside of bringing mounts 3 years into the game)
For PvE who cares? You have a choice.
For PvP AGS said they are looking into the feedback on it.
everyone will receive +40 attribute that they will add to CON and we will get an even longer TTK, and taking into account the cutting damage on the bow, musket, gunnery gun, this kills these classes, from ranged combat we are left to dominate and the fire staff gets a boost, and new the artifact ring will increase his damage even more
No one likes u anyway
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healers are gonna be absolute tanks lol and the new haste perk if you have at least one of those on your armor. With you always being a high priority target youre gonna have almost like a 80% uptime on haste with the new haste perk
This is what worries me the most about the new meta to be honest. The TTK is already too high, and I don't think think they thought this through too much.
Defensively is where spear comes in to play for a 1v1. I definitely agree that in pursuit a spear ain't it. But if I get that great ax or s&s dude that is rushing me constantly and I'm always pulling the spear out
I tried this in the past when they last changed grit on attacks, and Greatsword + Rupture with WH seemed to work just as well as GA WH for bruiser. It can be much tankier but less potential for burst damage than the GA produced
Yea the main thing b4 was grit countered the pull, but maybe now it’s viable?
@@mecr0w thats what im thinking, maybe Poison Spear + one of the named GS (they have rupture + thwarting + something else, with ranger or soldier attributes) would be worth a try
and a new perk that reduces the damage from bunker effects by 7% for each part, here are options for reducing the effects, I also remembered that stone skin also removes effects, but why put together a build against it when it’s easier to whine on the forum to get something cut.
When they ask to cut heals, everyone writes that you will assemble an anti-healing assembly, which hardly works at all, the healing is still too high even with a 50% penalty
@mecrow do you know if they fixed the GS abilities? Like Crosscut desyncs back to the first hit in combo so you don’t get any movement, or if skyward can now be directionally turned again? Or the slow/self root startup on relentless rush?
It’s supposed to be but not sure
Upheal or whatever i was using in beta, didn't lose 1 duel, after a stun 200%+ damage is good.
So it hits pretty hard then?
@@mecr0w yeah and pretty quick, I did leaping strike with bash then Upheal. Then swapped to hatchet. More burst damage
Are there any other hidden changes you noticed? What weapons do you think will be strongest on the ffa island?
Did the AGS clowns say anything about the Aimlock ?...
Meteor Shower also had duration increased to 6 seconds, so does more total damage and keeps Disease longer. That can make it more viable in PVE group content too (and Disease if not needed can be just skipped since it is the last upgrade). It also no longer has a cast time and now has a weird staff spinning animation to activate, but it is still faster than previous 1 second cast. They also changed Incinerate upgrades, but likely for the worse - now it is just worse Maelstrom with lower damage, lower radius, lower Weaken and 1 hit instead of 2. Really needs another design pass / buffs.
As for FFA island - it would likely be heaven for Muskets (long-ranged and single-target focused so less likely to hit potential flagged allies) and to less extent Bows and Fire Staves (also ranged, but either more AoE focused so can hurt melee allies or with lower range for abilities).
@@fatjay9402 Bro its ags. What you see is what you get.
Hi ! Do we have any precisions on the fact that the new mechanic : when we stagger someone after a dodge he get stam out ! is in fact a new intended mechanic or a bug ? any intel on that ?
@@fatjay9402no
PvE tanking will be frustrating with grit changes and a bunch of mobs hitting you
I think hatchet and wh might be must have bc of it
Does anyone know if the +15% elemental damage on Azoth Conductor count towards Empower cap? I’m pretty sure it does; but can anyone confirm?
Inferno artifact changed a bit. Is it better?
I think it’s partially bugged but it’s better
Yeah, it's better. The free gem slot easily makes up for the small nerf to the artifact perk.
6:38 that's just the round shield portion, tower and kite shield effects could work differently
2 vg heavy atks ans your musket had reloaded automatically 😊
Hoping for that announcement removing pvp target lock, not playing this game if they leave that crap in.
Another year, another nerf to bruiser role and buffs for mages with the three new artifacts for them. I swear...like INT/split stat elemental damage builds weren't strong enough. Now 50 more stats to dump into split stat dps output. Nerfing single stat builds like bruisers that only see play in Wars is bizarre.
Are there any talks of AGS actually removing the auto aim feature?
Nothing official
19:40
where did you get this information from? the damage on the live server without cartridges was 3% more than on the test client, there is no increase in base damage, there is a nerf by 3% and another -20% that the bullets themselves gave, they killed classes that use consumables to increase their damage
Math from adding base dmg effects. I pinned a helpful commit related to it.
why pvp offencive rapier never gets buff??? as a main rapier i allways feel lefth behind
Because main hand rapier is op as hell already lol
It’s great in pve still but in pvp it’s not as good. They looked at buffing flèche recently but it got reverted after feedback was given that it was hella op
@@BigBoyMMO come on it is not
@@mecr0w i still think that they could force a ligth atack after evade. (then evade would only be used for offencive instead of op defencive), and maybe lower the cd just a bit increase the ofencive capacity of the rapier
The Nature's wrath is honestly stupid. Its getting nerfed because of fire staff.... so just nerf fire staff. Now Nature's wrath will feel useless for everything else
The problem is int builds with fs being the biggest problem. I said runeglass and harness are problem due to the flat untimed base empower. The fact you can have near empower cap with flat 20 percent dmg is nuts. Fs also had int rework for highest base dmg tree, flint stick with vicious and Alacritous punishment. Just gross and honestly just carries people. Extremely high floor weapon.
yo this stagger will bring melees and range players further from each other. this is not good for the fast combat gameplay.... range players will try to shoot only form save positions cuz in close range they will haver no chance. what about the bow ammo change?
sad bow dont get any reworks/buffs - musket is faster and deal more dmg and firestaff is on top over a year....
People don’t use rapier because it requires extreme accuracy and was easy to avoid. Now with target lock it’s going to be the best DPS in PvP I guarantee it. Aka AGS REMOVE TARGET LOCK 😮💨😮💨😮💨
your 1st sentence of ur description is still from your last video btw (feel free to delete this comment when u fix it)
Ty
*Cough cough* Tank here that uses Kite Shield. SNS/GS.
Why tho? Refeshing move?
@@mecr0w I play very aggressive as a Tank - in fact, I barely right click with my shield as you can see from my vids. Based on the calculations I run, I saw a great performance increase with Counter Attack, as it also procs from Greatsword defensive skill tree.
What new 300 Con thing?
only heavy attacks have grit now
@@DanceStlylez All heavy attacks regardless of stat levels??
@@farepuppy8896if you have 300 con your heavy attacks will have grit. Your light attacks will no longer have grit even if you're 300 con.
@@DanceStlylez Thank you. Turns out the answer was farther along in the video.
btw., the hammer could also previously have grit, and still can on its heavies, with the grit on heavy passive. which anyone takes.. specially the 300 con tanks..so it doesnt really change much for WH. but it (300 con change)could mean alot for a few other weapons ;)
this 300 threshold heavy attack grit is just stupid, bruisers are now stripped from only advantage they have in clump fights
The animation 9n the new sword skill is so stupid,Ike a backhand tennis shot. I mean wtf it's just so ridiculous
And then there's float jumping lol
Target lock has killed the game for me. AGS destroying their action combat system is bigger joke than not releasing content for a year.
That was the main thing NW has/had going for it :/
I'd say it's unbelievable but this is AGS, it's totally believable.
Target lock has been in the game the whole time pc user just didn’t use it
@@-franticthread1326since when was it in the game? Only instance I can think of is healing
Really try for 20 min vids don't ya
I mean I timestamp it and I try to reduce the amount I talk about but it always ends up around there idk
So confused how you guys think Fire staff is getting a buff? It’s had 3 nerfs PvP wise it’s in an awful spot after this patch. Will be bottom tier.
I can summarize the thoughts I’ve heard right now:
1. All range w ammo is taking a base dmg nerf (not fs)
2. Other artifacts are almost as good as the one fs is losing
3. Fs artifact gained a gemslot and a 15% dmg buff within 15m. This is effectively like a 20-25% base dmg increase.
4. Runeglass gems proc the ring that is coming out (delayed). Also a 10ish% dmg buff.
5. Meteor shower disease is crazy strong and the empower built into it carries the fs in mid-large scale
@@mecr0w ok fair enough, I suppose large scale that makes sense but I think small scale it’s going to be awful. Meteor shower that clump sure but outside of that it’s lost a lot of ST burst.
I hope they make ice spike viable again. imo, it was the most fun meta when it was good.
DUDE it still is insane. What do you want more out of it ?
@@MASTERVAVI lol, insane huh? surely if it was that insane we would see it used outside of niche builds completely centered around hitting 1 spike. And even with a fully specialized build its underwhelming.
@@knockoff5924 I would have to disagree. It serves it's purpose and used correctly you can cast spikes every 3-5seconds. Insane deeps. I even used with musket and it worked too. IG/VG great build almost S tier. FS/IG S-tier as well. Are these niche builds ?
@@MASTERVAVI You can go play opr/arena all day and MIGHT find one guy running an ig/vg spike build. And as I just said, that's the whole build. Have fun trying to hit two 4 hit spikes in a row for a whopping 10-12k total damage. And that's only if you get some crits. The hatchet does that in 3 swings....Right now ig/vg is a support build that runs med or heavy so whatever S-tier build you're talking about isn't an IG/VG spike build.
Anyone playing an optimized FS/IG isn't running spike. You'd never get into a war running spike over something like pylon or shower. In small scale, you'd much rather want shower or pylon. Maybe there's an argument for spike in duels but right now spike is just a flashy skill that is satisfying to get a kill with, but for 99% of players it has no place in serious pvp.
17:01 -40%
damage, this is called dealing high damage?
14:47 I'm on it boss