FFXIV: Dawntrail Arcanist/Summoner 1 to 100 Leveling Skills Guide

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  • @d4MikeJones
    @d4MikeJones 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    It’s a small thing, but the “Watch as you go from this… to THIS” is always one of my favorite parts of your guides, and once again you didn’t disappoint 😂

    • @Scerttle
      @Scerttle 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I belly laughed

  • @DoctorHam
    @DoctorHam 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    I just want you to know my mother (60s) started playing ff14 recently and I sent her your videos to help her learn arcanist/smn. They helped her out so much in understanding not only what to press but *why*. You have consistently made the best intro job guides for years! Even I, a veteran of the game since 2.0, have always referred back to your videos when trying to learn or re-learn a job. Keep up the truly excellent work!!

  • @Toviathan
    @Toviathan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    The "watch as you go from this to this" did get a chuckle out of me

    • @andy4an
      @andy4an 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      is it exactly the same, and a joke about it not changing much?
      or am i missing something?

    • @RexIsOnline
      @RexIsOnline 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@andy4an Wesk mentions it constantly in the video. They added a second Bahamut summon with a single mechanical difference from the first Bahamut you get, everything else was an adjustment of appearances and numbers. So the progression from Level 60 to 100 ultimately only added like.... 7 or 8 unique skills over 40 levels

  • @somelosercalledjab
    @somelosercalledjab 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +149

    Uh Wesk, I think you made a mistake, it looks like you just uploaded the EW SMN guide again?

    • @slimfastsubaru2043
      @slimfastsubaru2043 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      This could be said for 95% of the jobs tbf xD

    • @kimlee6643
      @kimlee6643 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Watch us complain we want this back in 8.0 when we get the "job identity" update.

    • @andy4an
      @andy4an 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@slimfastsubaru2043
      what a shame, because I absolutely LOVE the changes to red mage.
      got three more fun toys to blast enemies with...
      and the whole job flows and feels better with the manification change

    • @thoby123
      @thoby123 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      report this guy, using skin mod for bahamut smh

  • @BionicLatino
    @BionicLatino 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Always delivering the best guides. You never miss, dude.

  • @edgarlarios4718
    @edgarlarios4718 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ... Over 7k hours and I'm still learning new things each time I watch a new guide... Man. I'd be lost without this channel. Tysm for your hard work.

  • @seriodenoyarohi7403
    @seriodenoyarohi7403 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    8:45 "A revive comes with a 5-second invincibility as long as you do not use any non-movement action."
    That is worded very weirdly. I know what you mean, but as a new player, I would now assume I can use things like Sprint or Smudge.
    For anyone confused the movement actions wesk is referring to is just normal moving with WASD/Left Control Stick and jumping.
    Obviously still a great guide, just a small nitpick. ^^

  • @Sketchblopp
    @Sketchblopp 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your "watch as you go from this..." is always so incredibly on point. :D
    I liked the new rework in EW, but Solar Bahamut... idk. I appreciate a certain symbolism Larry talked about in his video, but imo instead of pulling a reskin out of their hat, they could have used Quetzacoatl instead, adding a neat little extra lore nod with this and adding a Dawntrail region reference. (Not going to elaborate on a video aimed at sprouts obviously.) But that aside, it took me a long while to adjust my brain to Bahamut being the second demi now, and seeing phoenix only once in a blue moon. (Phoenix doesn't even appear on a Stone Sky Sea dummy duty, because the timer runs out after 3 minutes...) The Solar Bahamut heal is neat but I still prefer the phoenix heal because it gives me the feeling of having to use half a braincell on who to put it on, and the healers see they can do more DPS while the tank has the mini excog on them. Honestly, I'd rather have them stay with EW SMN + that extra searing light carby attack, than bloating the rotation up for no real reason other than having to do something new without breaking that damn 2 minute meta. ^^;
    I wonder what we're getting with 8.0. 6 minute rotation? :D

  • @raarasunai4896
    @raarasunai4896 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Hey, he's back!

  • @Sunila_DragonladyCH
    @Sunila_DragonladyCH 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I was very curious to see this one, as a SMN main for the past 6 years. I am really not the best player, and I also hadn't really gone and re-learned the early rotations after the big changes (removing DOTs etc). I don't do early content often on SMN. Very interesting. I admit I usually use Radiant Aegis on myself to compensate for my errors ;)
    Maybe one small detail is that in DT the changed Crimson Strike to be usable later (though not very long) you used to have to use it immediately, but now you can choose to move away and back into melee. Not a big deal but in some cases it can be nice.
    LOL about Slipstream... I still see even very seasoned players move away from it or panic when they see it. We're just trying to help, please keep the enemies in the green puddle !

  • @wavypavy4059
    @wavypavy4059 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    One of my friends has been confused by low level summoner, I think because gemshine is the first genuinely complicated button a player is likely to run into, and makes arcanist seem a lot more complicated than the job ultimately is. Glad to see the updated guide so the information is clearly up to date even if it hasn't changed much from endwalker.

    • @DannyPotato
      @DannyPotato 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      When I first played 14 I picked Arcanist and until 20-smth I thought wow this is fun, I can move a lot and Fester is great burst I can optimise as I do fights.
      But then I got so bored hammering that 1 key and once I learned that was basically it until endwalker I got the fucj out of there. Shame, because the gameplay is fun, just for short periods at a time.

  • @thesabotagedandovershadowe8423
    @thesabotagedandovershadowe8423 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Always appreciated!

  • @robertomacetti7069
    @robertomacetti7069 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I want to add a small aside on the pet hotbar
    For summoner is useless
    But if you want to branch on scholar to try healing (or to cheat the duty finder queue, I won't judge) a small optimization is placing your faerie in the center of the boss arena since half your healing kit is combosed by skills that originate from said faerie
    Just to be sure you actually get everyone regardless

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That much is covered in SCH guides

  • @TheKarishi
    @TheKarishi 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    "Keep in mind that this is an active MMO; Patches can and will change jobs. ESPECIALLY SUMMONER."

  • @Scerttle
    @Scerttle 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Oh... right yeah. Carbuncle has a hotbar. Suddenly I'm getting flashbacks to prepositioning carby before fights. I kinda miss that small detail!

  • @ItsASleepySheepy
    @ItsASleepySheepy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Blue Carby is the best Carby but I did enjoy glamming him into Ruby, Topaz, and Emerald Carby for each of my respective summons pre lv-90. Carby can have fun rolling around in paint, as a treat. (also please let me glam my demis and big lv-90 and lv-100 summons, I miss my bestest boi Carby)

    • @Sketchblopp
      @Sketchblopp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Having Carby on lvl 90+ would be nice, but, hear me out, what about Lvl 90+ carby glams transforming into the respective proto-carby?

  • @mas8705
    @mas8705 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It does seem like how out of all the casters, Summoner got the short end of the stick with seemingly just Lunar Bahamut at best. Who knows what the future will hold for the class, but it would be nice if there was seemingly more to the class than what it currently is. Either way, Summoner still remains the first caster Class I usually max out before the other casters since it is still fun to break out the moves and how straightforward it is.

    • @slimfastsubaru2043
      @slimfastsubaru2043 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tbh, most classes got shafted with dawntrail. Most jobs got nothing new besides, hit this one extra button. Damn near every job is identical to endwalker or basically the same but easier like mnk, nin, and drg.

  • @milkiipetals
    @milkiipetals 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Started off as a SMN main, now I'm almost done with M4S as a summoner main. Your guides help a lot!

  • @TyrantPope
    @TyrantPope 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If you could make the decisions for Yoshi-P, what summons would you add in 8.0 and, more importantly, how would they be implemented? I personally like the idea of a Shiva install state ala Enshroud or Awakening.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Shiva/Ramuh/Leviathan
      Leviathan places a Dropsy debuff on enemies. Using Ramuh doubles damage due to Dropsy or something. Shiva applies a unique Frozen debuff to enemies for 5? seconds. Would not work on bosses, obviously.

    • @InFluxCapacitor
      @InFluxCapacitor 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Make ShB Summoner again. I don't care if the skill floor is high. I picked it up easily because of WeskAlber anyway. Normalise telling people to pick up a guide.

  • @Xorua
    @Xorua 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    It's easy to be sarcastic about a Summoner guide after the rework, especially with the lackluster additions in Dawntrail, but at the end of the day just because something is "easy" doesn't mean it's inuititive, especially if you have little to no experience in the caster role or even the MMO genre as a whole. As always your effort is appreciated, Wesk.

    • @lushdontu4015
      @lushdontu4015 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Xorua summoner was lackluster in endwalker as well. The only thing reworked summoner does better is the visual effects. Shadowbringers summoner feels more like a level 100 job than the current summoner. Don't let the flashy spells fool you.

    • @Xorua
      @Xorua 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think you missed my point. Summoner was a lackluster job in Endwalker because of the rework, and then the lackluster additions in Dawntrail mean that it is still equally as lackluster, even if people were hoping for something different

    • @lushdontu4015
      @lushdontu4015 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Xorua the job is so boring. How do people play it for long periods of time without getting bored? I can play only dancer for a month without getting bored.

    • @slimfastsubaru2043
      @slimfastsubaru2043 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah, easy for one may be hard for another. For example, i love nin, drg, gnb, and blm, and do sav/ult with all of them, but i cannot for the life of me play pct. The whole portrait system just makes no sense to me. Even tho people say it's easy.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@lushdontu4015 Stop hating on people's fun.

  • @cordrac
    @cordrac 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if they were just really banking on nostalgia for ruin iv spam during pre-EW Bahamut to carry the Solar Bahamut attack animation. "Remember triple weaving and spaming ruin iv and then ruin ii to get as many bahamut autos in as possible? See we listened to your feedback for slightly more complexity by giving you the faint, withering memory of it back"

  • @steveaustin4118
    @steveaustin4118 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Funny thing is I like SMN for it's simplicity

    • @antinotice
      @antinotice 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I also like it and always use for first time content but I wanted something more for level 100 (this is true for most jobs, though - getting a bunch of updated animations, potency boosts and one new button to follow up 120s party buffs is simply disappointing).
      I can also imagine how boring and monotone is the leveling process for new summoner. BLM is a different beast each expansion, RDM gets new stuff at least to level 70 (then it's just more combo finishers and at this point combo of combo finishers is longer than your main combo) but SMN is always the same and only level 90 adds something more. This is fine if SMN is your first magical DPS... but if you already have BLM or RDM, you'll die of boredom.

    • @slimfastsubaru2043
      @slimfastsubaru2043 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Easy doesn't mean boring, alot of people love war, meanwhile imo it's even simpler than smn. More importantly does the job feel good/fun to play, or have a good aesthetic, and so on.

  • @FirithPanda
    @FirithPanda 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Silly question: know any good controller set-up recommendations? Also, thank you, this will help me SIGNIFICANTLY.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Like I say in the intro, it all depends on how you feel comfortable. What works for me might not work for you. Also keep in mind SMN has so few buttons you don't really need a lot of space

    • @arzedeu
      @arzedeu 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can confirm. I use controller. It all depends on feel.

    • @megidalyne
      @megidalyne 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      if you'd like a crappy text guide:
      Right ABXY: Main rotation (definition up to you)
      Left ABXY: Job gimmick goes here eg. monk second set, Samurai third hit, tanks ranged attacks and gap closers...
      Right dpad: oGCDs that you'd be pressing often (I put my tank damage burst things here and mits on left dpad)
      left dpad: tank mits, longer oGCDs, things that don't fit with the right dpad group, etc
      Right WXHB: longer cooldowns or lower priority buttons (depends, really)
      Left WXHB: Stuff I'd basically be pressing in niche situations, but I also don't really need buttons here since AoE GCDs are taking up less space
      I'd also point out that between the buttons that change to other buttons and the way that Viper and Pictomancer have been designed, it does feel like the game design purposely caters towards controller players - the way the buttons group up for me on viper especially certainly feels like the job was designed with XHBs in mind

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Idk why everyone is avoiding helping you out but I got you with a my controller set up for level 100 SMN
      First, make sure you have a proper W Cross Hot Bar set up with the double tapping L2/R2 to access the second bar and L2+R2 for the third bar.
      R2+X= Ruin 3
      R2+O=Tri Disaster
      R2+triangle= Enkindle Bahamut
      R2+square= Ruin 4
      R2+down= Radian Aegis
      R2+right= Swiftcast
      R2+up= Searing Light
      R2+left= Addle
      L2+X=Gem Shine
      L2+O= Precious Brilliance
      L2+Triangle= Painflare
      L2+square= Necrotize
      L2+down=Energy Siphon
      L2+right= Astral Flow
      L2+up= Summon Solar Bahamut
      R2+left= Energy Drain
      R2+R2+left= Resurrection
      R2+R2+up= Lux Solaris
      L2+L2+X= Summon Ifrit 2
      L2+L2+O=Summon Garuda 2
      L2+L2+triangle= Sprint
      L2+L2+square= Summon Titan 2
      L2+L2+down= Surecast
      L2+L2+right= Limit Break
      L2+L2+up= Lucid Dreaming
      L2+L2+left= Physick
      My 3rd Hot Bar is mirrored on both sides
      L2+R2+O/R2+L2+O= Summon Carbuncle
      L2+R2+up/L2+R2+up= Sleep
      Hope that helps

  • @andy4an
    @andy4an 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what do people like more about summoner than pictomancer?
    i like the picto flow a lot better, but miss the rez.

    • @Sketchblopp
      @Sketchblopp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Having a cute petable carby wobbling next to me. And Akh Morn power fantasy. And the ability to bless a tank or a newbie with phoenix' discount excog, as if a certain person would watch over them. :3 (But also, yeah, the rez. Every single time I play Picto and see a dead person I'm searching for the raise button for a short while until I remember I don't have one.)

  • @ElvinG28781
    @ElvinG28781 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Carbuncle is there to be cute and he's very good at it.

  • @Gemini_Godhand
    @Gemini_Godhand 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They gutted this job and Wesk still can make a guide over 30 mins as he's that good!

  • @nodot17
    @nodot17 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tbh I don't even care if we get new summons I just want the class have little more going on
    Also I kinda hate how solar bahamut interacts with death or killing a alliance raid boss before summoning regular baha/pheonix desyncing solar from raid buffs possibly for rest of instance

  • @greg_e_audio
    @greg_e_audio 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Am I understanding right that Searing Light is now cast from you rather than from Carbuncle, and therefore there’s no real reason to keep Place and Heel on my bar anymore?

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Been that way since EW, yeah

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ok but why did they give us TWO bahamuts over literally anything else

    • @wavypavy4059
      @wavypavy4059 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      My understanding is that the new bahamut is a hydaelin stand in.
      (Spoiler spacing just in case anyone's reading not having played endwalker)
      The wings and attack animation on solar bahamut look a lot like the pillar things on the moon that hydaelin uses to seal zodiark. I do really wish it wasn't bahamut though, some sort of crystal egi would have been my preference for a way of making it not be straight-up hydaelin getting summoned in front of sprouts.

    • @Apollad2
      @Apollad2 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Because "Summon Hydaelyn" would be kind of a major spoiler for someone who just unlocks summoner as they're starting out.
      Sadly, unless they completely redesign how summoner plays in 8.0, i suspect that their level 110 capstone will be something like "Eclipse Bahamut" which will replace the 2nd solar bahamut in the SBahamut > Bahamut > SBahamut > Phoenix sequence, which will simply be a representation of Zodiark.

    • @Sketchblopp
      @Sketchblopp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Apollad2 Gods I hope not. I love this general reference, but they can still pick other summons for this. For Dawntrail I would have loved to see Quetzacoatl for this. Established summon, fitting to the South America expansion and
      .
      .
      .
      spoiler
      .
      You have a connection to Amaurot with the Quetzacoatl boss in one of the Anyder dungeons. Using this one might have implied she was involved in that creature's creation, so it would be a nod for people who know, but not a spoiler beyond "oh it's that FF8 summon" to anyone not there yet.
      And I'm sure they could find a similar fitting "replacement" for Zodiark as well.

  • @ode-blu
    @ode-blu 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mostly Useless main smn tidbits:
    Apart from m1s clone phase, i didnt feel any need to adjust my legos during raiding in dawntrail
    Lux solaris proved to be really useful during puddle phase in ex1
    And yeah. Smn is only a good entry for casting in this game. After you get comfortable with it, I'm sure you'll be a better caster in other jobs too.

  • @Kfo221
    @Kfo221 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just want my poor carbuncle to do something instead of just stare at me.

  • @utau2746
    @utau2746 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who else is here cause you play Scholar and haven’t touched Summoner since you got the SCH job stone?

  • @ProfessM
    @ProfessM 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You have insulted my Ruby Carbuncle! It goes three times faster!

  • @socksman669
    @socksman669 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “So much potential, maybe in the future of the game but I doubt it.” I HIGHLY doubt summoner is never going to get reworked or changed, I doubt any class is going to go unchanged for the rest of the game. Unless dawntrail is the end, there is no doubt any class that feels “bad” will just get dropped now forever. Have faith, the game isn’t dead yet.

  • @kirigherkins
    @kirigherkins 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Justice for Physick

    • @gazel7424
      @gazel7424 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Fun fact: the BiS gear set for the highest Physick healing requires the gear pieces from winning PvP Frontline(Sealrock) 100 times

  • @FinalDragoon
    @FinalDragoon 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    >Calls Solar Bahamut boring
    Okay Woops.

    • @WeskAlber
      @WeskAlber  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sorry I'm not excited about Peggle 2 like that one guy.