A major part of the issue is that the oldies who lived during its peak are at the top of a strong business hierarchy today (and since the 90s). Fax and floppy worked for them and so they don't want to move forward. It is disappointing to see their aversion to software which is where Japan fell behind. The same principle is also applicable here in certain ways, but businesses don't stick to strict hierarchical power and are more adaptable. For example when I moved from NZ to Aus, I was surprised to see that car ownership papers were still printed and scribbled with pens while in NZ everyone pulls out their phone and completes ownership changes in seconds - but some states are adopting online changes.
I hope Natsuki will fare better from smoking than my mother did. She quit smoking but then started again simply because she enjoyed it. Now she suffers from COPD and regrets it.
My mom finally died of emphysema and COPD even though she had quit 30 years before. Otherwise healthy, she withered away once she got on oxygen and in a wheelchair. I quit over thirty years ago and feel like it has had long lasting effects. But honestly, I enjoyed it and if tobacco didn't have deleterious effects I'd still be smoking.
@@intractablemaskvpmGy My father died from lung cancer. A few days before he died I asked him what his biggest regret in life was. He said he regretted nothing except starting smoking. I am so glad I gave up 20 years ago.
Two things about Japan being High Tech or not... 1) retaining and continue using old technology, doesn't mean a country is not high tech. 2) Japan lost its edge at the same time when wages for professionals stagnated (and in real purchasing power terms, fell) and job security was utterly lost.
Kinda weird hearing about the euro finals since it was last week, but makes sense considering the podcast comes out normally a week after recording. Can't wait to hear the next podcast Pete talking about the loss to Spain.
One of the technologies that I really liked was the calculator that could fit in your pocket. 1973 college we used slide rules. The only electronic calculators were desk top about 35 cm x 35 cm and were too heavy to carry around. I went back to Japan to be with the family for Christmas winter break 1974 /1975 and my father handed me a pocket size calculator. Casio. Within 6 months every one at college had one of these pocket size calculators. So much for the slip stick.
Hey Chris I don’t know if you’ll ever read this comment but I’ll try. I quit smoking cigarettes after 5 years after reading Allen Carrs easy way to quit smoking. It’s frightening how easy it made it to quit. I’ve been a non smoker for 2 years now
The IT industry in Japan heavily emphasizes physical connection with hardware due to the country's renowned craftsmanship culture. However, Japan lags behind in software development compared to other nations. While Japan excels in electronic hardware products such as Walkman, CD players, cameras, TVs, and automobiles, it is not known for producing software or programs that have a global impact.
Tokyo = Trains, some Vending Machines, Toilets, Automated belt sushi = 2030 Japan in as a whole = Too much Paper Documents that need personal seal, many companies still rely on floppy disks, business still heavily use fax machines, perform math calculations manually on calculator rather than automatically via spreadsheet or database, etc…. = 1995 to early 2000.
To be fair while FAX is still a common thing, you can totally just use email. Floppy is no where as common as people try to present. They mainly exist in large company that do not want replace some of their computer (once company get to a certain getting money is a huge pain in the ass and that is true for any country).
In the real world, there are still several old ones in operation. The Boeing 747 was still updated in 2020 with 3.5 inch floppy disks. “Floppy disks are no longer used in any modern era aircraft. the vintage aircraft may only have the legacy system still in place because the The vintage aircraft may only have the legacy system still in place because the cost of updating the navigation system would be too cost prohibitive.” They are still used all over the world for various reasons. If you think it's only in Japan, then you're old-fashioned in your thinking and should update it like a floppy disk.
You never heard of genki drinks? They're the little drinks you take before going out drinking that supposedly prevent a hangover. One of the first things I learned after arriving in Japan
I still have those floppy disks and of course like gamer when you own some of those old PC, Amiga or other type of games.. and because Chris and Pete you both know Sir Clive Sinclair and his Spectrum 48K and this also means a lot of C cassettes..
When it comes to computer systems, pretty much every form of physical media is gone. Nothing comes on CDs or DVDs anymore. You're lucky to find anything even on USB sticks anymore. Big Tech would prefer everything is either cloud-based or digital distribution. I haven't worked in an office in a while, but I assume no one is using physical media to store data anymore. They just upload everything to the company server. When it comes to consumer businesses, physical media seems to be becoming more seen as collectables than the the main delivery method of content. Hardcore gamers, book collectors, music enthusiasts and film buffs don't like it, but digital distribution is now the main way people consume entertainment.
Regarding cash, recently in Tokyo, I have noticed more and more newer shops that only accept cash or PayPay (smartphone app payment), no credit card. It's really annoying.
Pete's "Chuckle Brothers" look is better than the Lumberjack look & the "Unibomber" look.. You could be confused & think you've travelled back through time & think you are going to see Magnum PI at any time🤣though.
Japan still has many faxes, cassettes, CD shops, floppy discs, and even abacuses in daily real-life use, if you like. If your perception of "advanced" is IT applications and services, Japan is not, because these came in English, and we have many people in the older generation which still can't use PCs or even smartphones. Japan has been and always be a Hardware loving country. And, I won't go into the reasons here, but teachers(schools), city halls/government people, are the farthest people from getting acquainted with new IT technology. In a way, they still love their paper documents. Japan will always have tons of old stuff in the present.
I think one of the reasons Japan is behind in some technicalogical area's is the older generation doesn't want to change how they do things. They're used to the old ways and don't want to learn the new ways. Computers can be a pain in the butt at times plus you have to worry about data breaches which are a nightmare 😱.
Fax machines are still widely used in the U.S., and it was only in 2023 that fax machines were discontinued in the UK. This is because in emerging countries without existing social infrastructure, new services spread quickly, leapfrogging the technological progress made by developed countries. This is a very common phenomenon that makes previously advanced countries look like they are lagging behind. This is called leapfrogging. We talk about it as if it were only in Japan, but in fact it is not.
I saw a documentary a few years ago on YT about the Demise of Sony & basically how the Playstation saved Sony. Then they bought Columbia & now with Camera's & sensors in phones they have adapted but the traditional 80's tech like TV's then they dropped from the Top of the list down into around the Toshiba level of TV's. LG, SAMSUNG & Panasonic are where screen's are these days & LG/Samsung also doing Monitors help with the sales.
As a software engineer in Japan this is basically right but I also want to add the Japanese developers themselves are often behind the times by 10+ years in software development. It's both cultural and due to the language barrier but ultimately it means most Japanese software engineers aren't up to par. This ALSO applies to the non-Japanese devs who moved to Japan straight out of university, a lot of them are absolutely awful and weirdly arrogant about it. They will repeat "this is just how we do things here" instead of admitting that their processes and approach to engineering is poor. Ah well, I work in a non-Japanese company now and people actually are interested in hearing about how things are done abroad and in part hired me BECAUSE I have recent and long experience outside of Japan.
Japan has probably one of the best internet systems in the world today, when I visited Japan I always got signal with no issues, recently we travelled from Victoria to Darwin in Australia and it became a running joke that we knew when there was a tower nearby as our phones would suddenly start to work, and the car would suddenly get road updates. Yes Australia is a bloody big country but the network issues here are ridiculous.
Between Darwin and Katherine there's at least an hour's drive worth of no signal, I know my iPhone tried to fall back to 2G many times and was on 3G a lot of the time when not seeing 1 bar of 4G
And here I am still with about 30 blank MDs that I bought before I left Japan 20 years ago. Best technology that would have taken over the music industry if not for MP3 players.
Just wondering if Chris ever makes Katsu Kare at home, or is it so accessible that it is not worth it? My eldest kid loves it and I am getting quite proficient at making the Katsu at home as it a lot cheaper than eating out. It is probably sacrilege but my youngest says my chicki is better than a F......chicki.
same in a lot of offices that work in the legal system. however most are not the old analoge standalone fax machine with a actual phone on the side. more often its a function on a copier now a days.
Love your podcast!~ been listening for 2 years now. By the way... Recently bought a Lonely Planet "Experience Japan" book and they gave you a shoutout in their "Listen" segment in the first few pages.
Just came back from Japan. I was baffeled of amount of QR codes, they are used everywhere and security of those is guestionable. Many tourists avoided restaurants that use QR code order system. Also noted that people in Tokyo are quite rude towards tourists, in comparison time in Kansai was lovely and people had smile on their faces... Osaka is way to go if you want the good Japan experience. We met nice couple in a bar and the owner gave us a gift as we left the city, not happening in Tokyo :D
First off, you've already done this episode, theme-wise. Secondly, a pushback against a narrative doesn't have to go to the opposite end, producing preposterous conclusions. Both exaggerations are rhetorical misrepresentations. Japan IS a high tech country, compared to the only thing one can effectively compare a country, namely all the other existing countries. One thing that you and others spouting this nonsense don't seem to understand is that technology is not only mass consumer technology. Meaning that even though visibility of major brands to the end consumer might shift through the years, technical knowhow and its industries remain, just in other forms. For instance, Japan is one of the very few countries crucial to the lithography industry. A brand crucial to this is Canon, which does make cameras that consumers use, but again, that's not all there is. This country excels in the robotics, pharmaceutical and space industries, just to name a few. The floppy disk situation is a quaint one but if you look it up, you can find analogous cases in the US military and other governmental institutions. To go back to the level of consumer goods, the most popular phone in the world, the iPhone in its various iterations, has for the longest time used Sony sensors for its cameras, and still does. Many of Samsung's flagships do the same. Japan's train network is an engineering marvel and it continues to be so, with the development of the L0 Series maglev at the forefront of ultra high speed transportation, where all Hyperloop explorations have failed. While we're on the subject of trains and consumer tech, tell me another country where getting off the train, with a just a tap of your smartwatch on the nearest vending machine you'll have a cold beverage in the summer and a hot one in the winter, because the digital IC card is compatible with various services and not only the train fares. In the military department, Japan is partnering with the UK and Italy (which yes, are also technologically advanced countries especially in a few areas) to develop a 6th generation, cutting-edge fighter jet. Japan is also at the cutting edge of supercomputing (with its supercomputers by Fujitsu often at the very top spot), particle accelerator experimentation, and Nuclear Fusion (look at the latest results from a few days ago).
I’m happy to see somebody else acknowledge these low key indicators of Japan’s electronics advancements. People always rant about Japan losing out in the consumer electronics industry to China and Korea, but they forget that a lot of chemicals, robots, systems, and patents are all technology held and innovative by Japan. That’s why japan is still one of the top economies in the world. They just keep innovating no matter what.
I think paper systems are way more proven and reliable than electronic systems. Japan and Germany, both highly advanced countries, still heavily use fax and paper systems because of its high security.
I've never been pressured into smoking here in Japan. But I am a heavy drinker though so I'm no saint. I actually look for smoke free bars now and choose lower alcohol options to try to be healthier while maintaining a healthy social life. I still enjoy getting tipsy/mildly drunk though.
I would say natsuki should read the book "Easy way to stop smoking" by Alan Carr, the original one (he died so those that came after are rewritten or reimagined), and just read it from start to finish no matter how stupid the book seems along the way. I was a chain smoker for over a decade and could never manage to quit, when I read that thing I was done and haven't wanted a cigarette since, which is over 12 years ago now, same for my sister.. Unfortunately I can find a translation of that book in nearly all languages but not in japanese, which sounds typical I remember it being 3 days of heavy withdrawals, 3 weeks of mild withdrawals, 3 months of slight craving, but since then I don't even have a problem sitting in a smoking area surrounded by cigarettes Fyi: They may or may not be right in this case, but LTT is a very poor source of information
Sounds like Chris might have delayed sleep phase disorder - although despite the name it seems to actually be a fairly natural thing that modern society isn’t suited for. I’ve got it and my natural sleep patterns are pretty much exactly the same as his (although I’ll stay in bed until 12 if I can).
Firing their coach after scoring second and the best result in years or even decades tells me one thing. "You managed to score second in a tournament we bought and had tailor made to us. Get out of here!"
Oooh, the small bottle energy drinks... xD I gotta say that I quite like them myself, in some weird way. xD Because I totally agree that some of them have this atrocious strong medicine flavor, but they kinda do the trick for me whereas coffee doesn't have much of an effect for me, and I hate the regular energy drinks myself (like Monster, RedBull and whatnot). But it's not taurine or caffeine that I like in those - it's the mix of all the other stuff. Some of those bottles have stuff like ginseng, ginger, cinnamon, honey and a whole ton of other herbs and whatnot. It probably isn't even the herbs themselves, but the strong flavor that kinda perks you up, or just the placebo effect. xD You guys know those? Oronamin C or Lipovitan D I think are the most popular? But at least back in my first trip I remember you could find throngs of different formulations and mixes... I tried a whole bunch of them. Not more than a bottle a day I mean, but I always bought one when I found a place that sold them... almost every metro station would have a kiosk selling those.
Seen those free cigarettes people in NYC last about twelve years ago. Back when I smoked it was great cuz cigarettes were already $12 a pack back then!
There are LOADS of cash only places in Japan if you leave the tourist areas. But since I don't really want to attract annoying tourists to those places I won't describe them or how to find them, not sorry.
A very dynastic shirt, Pete. I did a spit take when Pete said floppy disks. I know much about Japan 🗾 but I had forgotten that bit. Lmao. Now. To deal with this mess of cola.
No they dont.. Couldnt give a S*** about Football🤣. Keeping with the podcast theme. I built my 1st PC back in 2001 & dumped Football back in 88 for Speccy Games. One had to go & that was the Footy.🤣
@@skunkwerkz777 You obviously havent been around England have you. Anyway its Friday, shouldnt you be down Wetherspoons in Clacton having a pint with "Nutcase Nige"
Please stop putting this ad saying: "woman activiste are blablabla" on the spotify podcast it's such a slow pace speaker making only want to pass through the ad and making me mad when the purpose of this ad is really good the ad itself is lame.
@@davideriksen9086 If you go by that explanation, then the Rolodex is just an improvement of a papyrus, which, in turn, superseded the stone tablets, no?
Japan went behind for this 2 big reason per my opinion: 1. Population Age: Older population more than Younger. Puts brake on country’s growth. 2. 1980s JPY-USD massive rate change: Japan was progressing at a fast rate making USA worried about it since US wants to be a global power. So in order to stop Japans progress, the currency before i.e 280 JPY = 1$ was changed to 140JPY= 1$. This literally destroyed Japans economy which they could still not recover from. Hence, Japan is a dying country now.
There are ways around it I know, particularly if you're a resident, but I find having to pay cash to use the Suica card charge machines in stations to be the biggest cash based annoyance. Cash has generally become increasingly less necessary in big cities in the last 10 years though.
Fax machines endure because they cannot be hacked, unlike email. Their biggest problem is, being analog devices, they cannot work reliably on digital phone lines, which almost all businesses here the U.S. now use. That was their doom here.📠
In the 1980s Japan wished on the Monkey's Paw "I wish we had technology from the year 2000!" and it's been true ever since.
Sorry guys I have bad news about the footy.
We lost as expected🤣
It was always going to happen, but at least it wasn't penalties.
@jonbaxter2254 we might of actually stood a chance in penalties haha
@@gohamorgohome And for the same reason England would beat Germany in a shoot out. Germans don’t know how to use English on the pitch.
Japan has been living in the year 2000 since 1980.
Spot on. Then in 2001 they were old news and out of sync.
A major part of the issue is that the oldies who lived during its peak are at the top of a strong business hierarchy today (and since the 90s). Fax and floppy worked for them and so they don't want to move forward. It is disappointing to see their aversion to software which is where Japan fell behind. The same principle is also applicable here in certain ways, but businesses don't stick to strict hierarchical power and are more adaptable.
For example when I moved from NZ to Aus, I was surprised to see that car ownership papers were still printed and scribbled with pens while in NZ everyone pulls out their phone and completes ownership changes in seconds - but some states are adopting online changes.
Japan is like what people from the 1980s would imagine the 2020s would be like
I hope Natsuki will fare better from smoking than my mother did. She quit smoking but then started again simply because she enjoyed it. Now she suffers from COPD and regrets it.
My mom finally died of emphysema and COPD even though she had quit 30 years before. Otherwise healthy, she withered away once she got on oxygen and in a wheelchair. I quit over thirty years ago and feel like it has had long lasting effects. But honestly, I enjoyed it and if tobacco didn't have deleterious effects I'd still be smoking.
@@intractablemaskvpmGy My father died from lung cancer. A few days before he died I asked him what his biggest regret in life was. He said he regretted nothing except starting smoking. I am so glad I gave up 20 years ago.
The f1 cars weren’t destoryed by hackers, it was its own team that pushed an firmware update while it was driving and blew up the engine.
My uncle lived in Japan and Coco curry was one of his biggest recommendations when I visited Japan.
Two things about Japan being High Tech or not...
1) retaining and continue using old technology, doesn't mean a country is not high tech.
2) Japan lost its edge at the same time when wages for professionals stagnated (and in real purchasing power terms, fell) and job security was utterly lost.
Kinda weird hearing about the euro finals since it was last week, but makes sense considering the podcast comes out normally a week after recording. Can't wait to hear the next podcast Pete talking about the loss to Spain.
Me looking nervously at the big box of 200 floppy disks I just bought last week.
Sony is also discontinuing Blu-Ray disc manufacturing, so stock up on them too.
For what purpose?
With companies in the west forcibly thrusting AI onto all of us, I'm now starting to see Japan's techphobia as a positive.
One of the technologies that I really liked was the calculator that could fit in your pocket. 1973 college we used slide rules. The only electronic calculators were desk top about 35 cm x 35 cm and were too heavy to carry around. I went back to Japan to be with the family for Christmas winter break 1974 /1975 and my father handed me a pocket size calculator. Casio. Within 6 months every one at college had one of these pocket size calculators. So much for the slip stick.
Hey Chris I don’t know if you’ll ever read this comment but I’ll try. I quit smoking cigarettes after 5 years after reading Allen Carrs easy way to quit smoking. It’s frightening how easy it made it to quit. I’ve been a non smoker for 2 years now
Maybe Natsuki can give it a read
The IT industry in Japan heavily emphasizes physical connection with hardware due to the country's renowned craftsmanship culture. However, Japan lags behind in software development compared to other nations. While Japan excels in electronic hardware products such as Walkman, CD players, cameras, TVs, and automobiles, it is not known for producing software or programs that have a global impact.
Tokyo = Trains, some Vending Machines, Toilets, Automated belt sushi = 2030
Japan in as a whole = Too much Paper Documents that need personal seal, many companies still rely on floppy disks, business still heavily use fax machines, perform math calculations manually on calculator rather than automatically via spreadsheet or database, etc…. = 1995 to early 2000.
To be fair while FAX is still a common thing, you can totally just use email. Floppy is no where as common as people try to present. They mainly exist in large company that do not want replace some of their computer (once company get to a certain getting money is a huge pain in the ass and that is true for any country).
In the real world, there are still several old ones in operation.
The Boeing 747 was still updated in 2020 with 3.5 inch floppy disks.
“Floppy disks are no longer used in any modern era aircraft. the vintage aircraft may only have the legacy system still in place because the The vintage aircraft may only have the legacy system still in place because the cost of updating the navigation system would be too cost prohibitive.”
They are still used all over the world for various reasons.
If you think it's only in Japan, then you're old-fashioned in your thinking and should update it like a floppy disk.
@@noxnox7445 Nah
You never heard of genki drinks? They're the little drinks you take before going out drinking that supposedly prevent a hangover. One of the first things I learned after arriving in Japan
I still have those floppy disks and of course like gamer when you own some of those old PC, Amiga or other type of games.. and because Chris and Pete you both know Sir Clive Sinclair and his Spectrum 48K and this also means a lot of C cassettes..
Around 2014-2017 people would come into bars in america too and give pack of cigarettes too
When it comes to computer systems, pretty much every form of physical media is gone. Nothing comes on CDs or DVDs anymore. You're lucky to find anything even on USB sticks anymore. Big Tech would prefer everything is either cloud-based or digital distribution.
I haven't worked in an office in a while, but I assume no one is using physical media to store data anymore. They just upload everything to the company server.
When it comes to consumer businesses, physical media seems to be becoming more seen as collectables than the the main delivery method of content. Hardcore gamers, book collectors, music enthusiasts and film buffs don't like it, but digital distribution is now the main way people consume entertainment.
I wouldn't be surprised when shops buys new ticket machines, the machines would also accept credit cards.
Regarding cash, recently in Tokyo, I have noticed more and more newer shops that only accept cash or PayPay (smartphone app payment), no credit card. It's really annoying.
Online banking here is much nicer than it used to be! It was absolutely awful a few years ago.
Road tripping from the east coast USA to the west coast, then hopping a flight to Nagasaki. The lag is gunna be insane.
Pete's "Chuckle Brothers" look is better than the Lumberjack look & the "Unibomber" look.. You could be confused & think you've travelled back through time & think you are going to see Magnum PI at any time🤣though.
Japan still has many faxes, cassettes, CD shops, floppy discs, and even abacuses in daily real-life use, if you like. If your perception of "advanced" is IT applications and services, Japan is not, because these came in English, and we have many people in the older generation which still can't use PCs or even smartphones. Japan has been and always be a Hardware loving country. And, I won't go into the reasons here, but teachers(schools), city halls/government people, are the farthest people from getting acquainted with new IT technology. In a way, they still love their paper documents. Japan will always have tons of old stuff in the present.
Japan announces they have replaced all floppy discs, with CDs.
Right in time for Sony to announce to stop producing Blu-Rays for consumers.
@@brothernemiel6465 Japan announces they will replace CDs with USB sticks.
🤣🤣🤣
is both Facinating & Frigtening how much of the world's infrastructure relies on pretty old tech
I think one of the reasons Japan is behind in some technicalogical area's is the older generation doesn't want to change how they do things. They're used to the old ways and don't want to learn the new ways. Computers can be a pain in the butt at times plus you have to worry about data breaches which are a nightmare 😱.
same with me
Younger people also have security concerns with electrifying everything.
Fax machines are still widely used in the U.S., and it was only in 2023 that fax machines were discontinued in the UK.
This is because in emerging countries without existing social infrastructure, new services spread quickly, leapfrogging the technological progress made by developed countries.
This is a very common phenomenon that makes previously advanced countries look like they are lagging behind.
This is called leapfrogging.
We talk about it as if it were only in Japan, but in fact it is not.
I saw a documentary a few years ago on YT about the Demise of Sony & basically how the Playstation saved Sony. Then they bought Columbia & now with Camera's & sensors in phones they have adapted but the traditional 80's tech like TV's then they dropped from the Top of the list down into around the Toshiba level of TV's.
LG, SAMSUNG & Panasonic are where screen's are these days & LG/Samsung also doing Monitors help with the sales.
As a software engineer in Japan this is basically right but I also want to add the Japanese developers themselves are often behind the times by 10+ years in software development. It's both cultural and due to the language barrier but ultimately it means most Japanese software engineers aren't up to par. This ALSO applies to the non-Japanese devs who moved to Japan straight out of university, a lot of them are absolutely awful and weirdly arrogant about it. They will repeat "this is just how we do things here" instead of admitting that their processes and approach to engineering is poor.
Ah well, I work in a non-Japanese company now and people actually are interested in hearing about how things are done abroad and in part hired me BECAUSE I have recent and long experience outside of Japan.
Japan has probably one of the best internet systems in the world today, when I visited Japan I always got signal with no issues, recently we travelled from Victoria to Darwin in Australia and it became a running joke that we knew when there was a tower nearby as our phones would suddenly start to work, and the car would suddenly get road updates. Yes Australia is a bloody big country but the network issues here are ridiculous.
Between Darwin and Katherine there's at least an hour's drive worth of no signal, I know my iPhone tried to fall back to 2G many times and was on 3G a lot of the time when not seeing 1 bar of 4G
And here I am still with about 30 blank MDs that I bought before I left Japan 20 years ago. Best technology that would have taken over the music industry if not for MP3 players.
Just wondering if Chris ever makes Katsu Kare at home, or is it so accessible that it is not worth it?
My eldest kid loves it and I am getting quite proficient at making the Katsu at home as it a lot cheaper than eating out. It is probably sacrilege but my youngest says my chicki is better than a F......chicki.
Up untill we transitioned, using a fax machine in the health care office is still a skill needed.
same in a lot of offices that work in the legal system. however most are not the old analoge standalone fax machine with a actual phone on the side.
more often its a function on a copier now a days.
@@sirBrouwerMost consumer-grade printers lack the FAX feature, and small businesses buy consumer-grade printers.
Remember having to change disk 4 times just to have a go on Mortal Kombat on the Amiga XD
1 button glory. SF2 was similar
Love your podcast!~ been listening for 2 years now. By the way... Recently bought a Lonely Planet "Experience Japan" book and they gave you a shoutout in their "Listen" segment in the first few pages.
Japan finally getting rid of floppy disk is a big step, but I will be shock when they get rid of faxes machines.
Just came back from Japan. I was baffeled of amount of QR codes, they are used everywhere and security of those is guestionable. Many tourists avoided restaurants that use QR code order system.
Also noted that people in Tokyo are quite rude towards tourists, in comparison time in Kansai was lovely and people had smile on their faces... Osaka is way to go if you want the good Japan experience. We met nice couple in a bar and the owner gave us a gift as we left the city, not happening in Tokyo :D
First off, you've already done this episode, theme-wise. Secondly, a pushback against a narrative doesn't have to go to the opposite end, producing preposterous conclusions. Both exaggerations are rhetorical misrepresentations.
Japan IS a high tech country, compared to the only thing one can effectively compare a country, namely all the other existing countries. One thing that you and others spouting this nonsense don't seem to understand is that technology is not only mass consumer technology. Meaning that even though visibility of major brands to the end consumer might shift through the years, technical knowhow and its industries remain, just in other forms. For instance, Japan is one of the very few countries crucial to the lithography industry. A brand crucial to this is Canon, which does make cameras that consumers use, but again, that's not all there is.
This country excels in the robotics, pharmaceutical and space industries, just to name a few.
The floppy disk situation is a quaint one but if you look it up, you can find analogous cases in the US military and other governmental institutions. To go back to the level of consumer goods, the most popular phone in the world, the iPhone in its various iterations, has for the longest time used Sony sensors for its cameras, and still does. Many of Samsung's flagships do the same.
Japan's train network is an engineering marvel and it continues to be so, with the development of the L0 Series maglev at the forefront of ultra high speed transportation, where all Hyperloop explorations have failed. While we're on the subject of trains and consumer tech, tell me another country where getting off the train, with a just a tap of your smartwatch on the nearest vending machine you'll have a cold beverage in the summer and a hot one in the winter, because the digital IC card is compatible with various services and not only the train fares. In the military department, Japan is partnering with the UK and Italy (which yes, are also technologically advanced countries especially in a few areas) to develop a 6th generation, cutting-edge fighter jet. Japan is also at the cutting edge of supercomputing (with its supercomputers by Fujitsu often at the very top spot), particle accelerator experimentation, and Nuclear Fusion (look at the latest results from a few days ago).
Nope you’re wrong at every level. Japan is weak AF
I’m happy to see somebody else acknowledge these low key indicators of Japan’s electronics advancements. People always rant about Japan losing out in the consumer electronics industry to China and Korea, but they forget that a lot of chemicals, robots, systems, and patents are all technology held and innovative by Japan. That’s why japan is still one of the top economies in the world. They just keep innovating no matter what.
makes sense F1 cars would have IP addresses. They move a lot of data.
I think paper systems are way more proven and reliable than electronic systems. Japan and Germany, both highly advanced countries, still heavily use fax and paper systems because of its high security.
Watching from Japan
I’m surprised Japan didn’t go from Floppy-Disc to USBs.
Didn't even know England was playing
I've never been pressured into smoking here in Japan. But I am a heavy drinker though so I'm no saint. I actually look for smoke free bars now and choose lower alcohol options to try to be healthier while maintaining a healthy social life. I still enjoy getting tipsy/mildly drunk though.
I would say natsuki should read the book "Easy way to stop smoking" by Alan Carr, the original one (he died so those that came after are rewritten or reimagined), and just read it from start to finish no matter how stupid the book seems along the way.
I was a chain smoker for over a decade and could never manage to quit, when I read that thing I was done and haven't wanted a cigarette since, which is over 12 years ago now, same for my sister..
Unfortunately I can find a translation of that book in nearly all languages but not in japanese, which sounds typical
I remember it being 3 days of heavy withdrawals, 3 weeks of mild withdrawals, 3 months of slight craving, but since then I don't even have a problem sitting in a smoking area surrounded by cigarettes
Fyi: They may or may not be right in this case, but LTT is a very poor source of information
Sounds like Chris might have delayed sleep phase disorder - although despite the name it seems to actually be a fairly natural thing that modern society isn’t suited for. I’ve got it and my natural sleep patterns are pretty much exactly the same as his (although I’ll stay in bed until 12 if I can).
It was true for 80s and early 90s but as we know, the bubble burst and they stagnated in many aspects
Didn't you guys get the fax? Japan is still a technological powerhouse.
Very sus talking about Skynet hours before Microsoft crowd strike
my condolences⚽️
Firing their coach after scoring second and the best result in years or even decades tells me one thing. "You managed to score second in a tournament we bought and had tailor made to us. Get out of here!"
Oooh, the small bottle energy drinks... xD
I gotta say that I quite like them myself, in some weird way. xD Because I totally agree that some of them have this atrocious strong medicine flavor, but they kinda do the trick for me whereas coffee doesn't have much of an effect for me, and I hate the regular energy drinks myself (like Monster, RedBull and whatnot).
But it's not taurine or caffeine that I like in those - it's the mix of all the other stuff. Some of those bottles have stuff like ginseng, ginger, cinnamon, honey and a whole ton of other herbs and whatnot. It probably isn't even the herbs themselves, but the strong flavor that kinda perks you up, or just the placebo effect. xD
You guys know those? Oronamin C or Lipovitan D I think are the most popular? But at least back in my first trip I remember you could find throngs of different formulations and mixes... I tried a whole bunch of them. Not more than a bottle a day I mean, but I always bought one when I found a place that sold them... almost every metro station would have a kiosk selling those.
Them japanese government computers are still 486 pc from the 90s lol
Podcast 19 of asking Chris to speedrun nearly every main temple in Tokyo !!
yey i'm early to a video :D Hey Chris and Pete
Pete called it soccer
I threw up a bit in my mouth when he did
"Everything just... works in Japan" Yeah, cause everything's run off of flooping disks, of all things!! lol
Smoking culture in Japan video please
Seen those free cigarettes people in NYC last about twelve years ago. Back when I smoked it was great cuz cigarettes were already $12 a pack back then!
Watching this months later knowing the Spanish saved the rest of the UK 😅
England losing the final saved football...
There are LOADS of cash only places in Japan if you leave the tourist areas. But since I don't really want to attract annoying tourists to those places I won't describe them or how to find them, not sorry.
“Smoking does look cool” oh boy. For once I disagree with Chris…
"It was quite nice actually"
Chris Broad on smoking, 2024.
A very dynastic shirt, Pete.
I did a spit take when Pete said floppy disks. I know much about Japan 🗾 but I had forgotten that bit. Lmao. Now. To deal with this mess of cola.
Starmer is Knight not a Lord!
Vamos
Japan is living in the future, if "future" means the static target that is year of our lord 2000.
I wonder if Natsuki has tried iqos
19:45 he’s talking 5 and a quarter inch. Actual floppy.
Every Englishman wants to play for england. Except for the ones actually on the team.
No they dont.. Couldnt give a S*** about Football🤣. Keeping with the podcast theme. I built my 1st PC back in 2001 & dumped Football back in 88 for Speccy Games. One had to go & that was the Footy.🤣
Does England have any native English left? I just saw riot videos and all the towns are brown people.
@@skunkwerkz777 You obviously havent been around England have you. Anyway its Friday, shouldnt you be down Wetherspoons in Clacton having a pint with "Nutcase Nige"
Please stop putting this ad saying: "woman activiste are blablabla" on the spotify podcast it's such a slow pace speaker making only want to pass through the ad and making me mad when the purpose of this ad is really good the ad itself is lame.
Why does everyone recommend CoCo Curry lmao. I mean, it’s okay
古いものと新しいものが共存してるのが日本
余計なお世話ですよ
Good luck England 🇬🇪🏈
DOS
It’s the Win-Tel (MSWindows-Intel) operating system.
England will always lose. Southgate not capable enough to lead a squad of thay talent
Those are NOT floppy disks. They are micro-disks. 5.25" are floppies. 3.5" are micros.
And they’re all just old tech versions of info Rolodex.
@@davideriksen9086 If you go by that explanation, then the Rolodex is just an improvement of a papyrus, which, in turn, superseded the stone tablets, no?
@@Black_Sun_Dark_Star Data storage.
Not a single person in my entire memory has called 3.5's Micros and i've lived through the 80's and 90's
@@skunkwerkz777 We are did. I;ve lived through the entire PC revolution. You are mistaken.
3:58 Sir Starmer, he’s not a Lord, he’s a Knight!
He's rubbish thats what he is and a traitor
Thank god for the fast forward button, otherwise this would just be the petepodcast
Please stop calling football soccer. If Americans don't get it, tough, they'll have to bloody learn
it is not coming home!!! mwhuaghhaha ;-P
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early booooys!
Purple drank or whateva you call it…. Nice try Pete everyone knows your a sizzurp sipper
Why did you smoke? You have asthma!
Japan went behind for this 2 big reason per my opinion:
1. Population Age: Older population more than Younger. Puts brake on country’s growth.
2. 1980s JPY-USD massive rate change: Japan was progressing at a fast rate making USA worried about it since US wants to be a global power. So in order to stop Japans progress, the currency before i.e 280 JPY = 1$ was changed to 140JPY= 1$. This literally destroyed Japans economy which they could still not recover from.
Hence, Japan is a dying country now.
Japan was high tech 20 years ago. Japan is currently far behind. Smartphone is a good way to measure that.
bloody fucking hell, 8 minutes in and still talking about random bullshit
There are ways around it I know, particularly if you're a resident, but I find having to pay cash to use the Suica card charge machines in stations to be the biggest cash based annoyance. Cash has generally become increasingly less necessary in big cities in the last 10 years though.
and that frightens the hell out of me. you do not want digital currencies.
@@skunkwerkz777 You think it's not that way already? Unless you're walking around with bullion, physical money is pretty much as worthless as digital.
Fax machines endure because they cannot be
hacked, unlike email.
Their biggest problem is, being analog devices, they cannot work reliably on digital phone lines, which almost all businesses here the U.S. now use.
That was their doom here.📠