Hiawatha - The Great Law of Peace - Extra History - Part 1
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- 📜 Hiawatha, The Great Law of Peace, Part 1 - Extra History
Long before Europeans arrived in North America, five nations formed a confederacy guided by a Constitution called the Great Law of Peace. Though they are often called Iroquois, their name for themselves is Haudenosaunee, People of the Long House. One of the founders of their confederacy was Hiawatha, an Onondaga chief who lived under the thumb of a brutal war chief named Tadodaho. Hiawatha attempted to convince all the other Onondaga that they should embrace peace, the way their neighbors the Mohawks recently had, but Tadodaho thwarted his efforts. Hiawatha left his home to travel to Mohawk territory and meet a man called the Peacemaker, who had brought peace to the Mohawk. He gave the Peacemaker a string of wampum beads to symbolize his desire for peace, and it soon became clear that they were kindred spirits. The Peacemaker wanted to bring the Five Nations, who had once been brothers, together in peace, and he joined forces with Hiawatha to make it happen. Their first goal: to recrut Jigonsaseh, a Seneca woman already famed for her efforts to establish small, local peace agreements between the warriors who frequented her longhouse. The Peacemaker described to her his plans for a government where women like her, as clan mothers, played an important role, and she embraced his message. Together they traveled to the Oneida to recruit their first ally. The Oneida debated the wisdom of accepting peace for a full year, but the Peacemaker's passion convinced them and at last, they joined. Hiawatha hoped that this alliance would impress Tadodaho enough to get him to join the peace as well, but when they returned to Onondaga territory, Tadodaho made it clear that he still had no interest in their peace. The Peacemaker encouraged Hiawatha to keep thinking about this problem, and meanwhile, they traveled to recruit the Cayuga nation. As "little brothers" of the Onondaga, they had suffered greatly from Tadodaho's demands, and an alliance with two other nations struck them as the perfect way to free themselves from him and create a new path for their people. Now only two tribes remained to recruit: the Seneca and the Onondaga.
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"he wanted all people to live in peace"
It was at that moment I could tell something bad is gonna happen to that guy
He dies...eventually, I'm not sure when or how, but he dies.
Well of course he dies. We all die eventually.
+I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter not if you believe in reincarnation. not technically at least.
Well, something like 6.5% of all humans who were ever born are currently alive. And if the singularity comes soon enough and goes well, the concept of "death" may become irrelevant to many of us.
Or, to quote Ray Kurzweil, "live long enough to live forever"...
Idealists often die for their ideals, but not before making a permanent impression upon the world. It is necessary for humanity to abolish war and violence in order to evolve further, and until that occurs, we will suffer from lack of resources, sickness, crime, and drama. Until we take that next step, people will still have heartbreaking divorces and violent mobs to deal with. Until we can fully devote resources to peaceful efforts, rather than even protective war efforts (like having the soldiers and weapons to go to war just to keep others from doing so), we won't be able to cure cancer or AIDS fully, we won't be able to extend lives, and we won't have the ability to feed everyone or house them without destroying the very planet we live on.
TLDR: Humans, get a clue, fighting is POINTLESS.
I'd love to hear more stories of Native American historical figures. That's an aspect of history we really don't get exposed to enough of.
Unless you are Canadian then there is to much
I'm american and proud of it, but i can't shake the idea of moving to canada.
I'm french-canadian and I say we don't get taught squat about native history or culture in school or in the medias and I know it's a lot the same in the rest of Canada. So, where do you get the idea that it's too much?
Gord Downie disagreed with you just a few nights ago.
Never enough.
Nya:weh [Thank You] to Extra Credits for this great episode. I gotta admit; I was very nervous going into this one. Never would I think that Extra Credits would purposefully disrespect a people's history, but our people's history is undervalued even in our home country. However, I was impressed by the candor, accuracy, and respect given to the story of Hiawatha and the Great Peacemaker and Jikonhsaseh.
Thank you back. I was very nervous going into writing this one; I'm aware that this history, when it's told at all, is often distorted by inaccuracy and assumption, and the last thing I wanted to do was add more to that legacy. So I put a lot of effort and a lot of time into reading all the versions of this history I could find and learning all I could about the cultures of each of the Five Nations. I'm sure I still made mistakes, but I am truly glad that the effort shows through. I hope the second and final episode will also live up to this standard! -Soraya
The nature of the oral tradition creating slight variations on the same story makes it totally understandable to hear a slight take on an event. I'm an Oneida person, lived in the First Nations community in my city for nearly 25 years, and I still hear new variations from elders, scholars, and storytellers. The core themes and ideas remain largely the same with each telling, though, and that is what's important.
Does any variation of the story give a reason for the architects of this peace not waiting to turn Tadodaho until all the rest of the tribes had bought in to the Great Law? That is, going to the Seneca (or whoever was left besides the Onondaga) with overtures of peace to consolidate power before approaching Tadodaho with a request that he would dismiss out of hand.
According to an Elder, the reason why Hiawatha came to Tadodaho after recruiting the Oneida with the Peacemaker (who is Mohawk) is because he wanted to bring not only the source of this new Great Law (the Peacemaker) but also one other Nation that had embraced it. Sort of like showing the blueprints and the proof of concept at the same time.
Like they said in the video, Hiawatha believed that 2 Nations embracing peace would persuade Tadodaho to at least consider the Great law of Peace.
I live in the U.S., in NY as well. I live in former Algonquian territory, but I learned much more about the Iroquois then the Algonquian.
Whoa whoa. I live in that part of NY and we (barely) learn about the Iroquois (once) in elementary school but we were never told this. Hell, we even have a (shitty outskirt) street called "Hiawatha" but we were never told it was named after someone.
I live in the opposite end in Canada but we learnt so much about the Iroquois confederacy
Yeah, how much people in the US learn about Native people is pretty spotty. Some schools do better than others but it's mostly crap.
That's because schools in the US usually take their curriculum from California or Texas. Books adopted by those states are usually accepted by all others (or 50/50 of them, there are two states as leaders after all) with few exceptions. So you as a New Yorker would not learn NY history unless you specifically sought it out or used some alternative form of schooling that used an alternative curriculum like homeschooling or some private schools.
I feel your pain though, I always thought that Vermont history was a bore where nothing happened until I took a course on it in college. Turns out that your state and mine have quite a storied history. Did you know that at one point Vermont was going to annex a fourth of modern New York and almost all of New Hampshire and was only stopped from going full American Anschluss by a letter from George Washington telling the government of the Vermont Republic that annexing "Greater Vermont" would jeopardize the young nation's application to join the United States. It was quite a change from when New York was sending in troops to suppress angry Connecticut settlers in the Green Mountain area.
Cody Fett Holy shit. I did not knowthat about Vermont and New York.
Here's the thing. In fourth grade our Social Studies was centered on the history of NY (I still remember the text books. It was blue and had the words "NEW YORK" around the Statue of Liberty). The fact that we barely learned anything about pre-colonial NY and our relationship with Vermont is really disheartening
I grew up in the Oneida area and had teachers that were part of the Oneida nation. We learned a bit more about history like this as a result. It's awesome to see this history being told.
Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga, Seneca, Mohawk. Long ago, the five nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed, when the pale faces arrived.
*slowclap.gif*
Really, a lot of history could be summed up with "But everything changed when the white people attacked."
MusicandGamesandStuf Europeans conquered Americas even when the natives didn't piss them off, lol.
HA! That was good hehe
Aerunn Allado 1. No one is insulting anyone.
2. Nation states didn't exist in the Americas when the first Europeans arrived.
3. Try harder next time.
Holy shit. I've never been very interested in Native American history.
I might have to take a 180 on that now.
^ May be one of the best compliments I've ever received. -Soraya
+Extra Credits Oh don't worry, virtually every single Extra History series has done that for so many people, stretching all the way back to The Punic Wars. That first epic on Hannibal is what finally made me click that Subscribe button, and your updates are always a high point for me.
I only wish I had some spare cash that I could donate to the EH Patreon, so I could help support and contribute.... but alas, rent must be paid and teeth must be fixed T~T
Don't even sweat it. We love our patrons for making EH possible, but we tell them over and over not to pledge beyond what's comfortable for them, and the same applies to you. We're happy that we get to do this and grateful for the love that keeps our morale engines running.
i just love this tone of voice
I've gotta say, you're extra history tidbits are the best :)
Hiawatha wanted peace for his nation, but a powerful war chief stood in his way. He needed allies.
I bet 1 million dollers extra credits won't respond to this comment.
And with whom do you make this bet?
+MicManGuy me
This was a completely different story in my classroom then you said Hiawatha wasn't even there when they told it and they didn't know a thing about wampums before
Walpole?
I cried almost the whole way through this, Jigonsaseh and Hiawatha are too pure for this world, bless.
Amen!
Hiawatha wanted peace, Gandhi had other plans.
I can see someone who plays Civilization.
"Let them all burn in the nuclear fires, so they might be purified" Gandhi, 1820
I'm confused, can someone tell me what's the joke?
@@utkarshdubey3435 There's this game that both Gandhi and Hiwatha are in called civilization. And the joke is that for some reason in the game Gandhi is ultra aggressive.
NUKES!!!!
As a Native American I am ecstatic that this is being covered! Thank you guys!
Yeah I can tell you look Native American
You are the most Caucasian Native American I’ve ever seen…
Meanwhile Iroquois in EU4...
"CASUS BELI? THERE WILL BE NO CASUS BELI! THERE CAN BE ONLY WAR, ENDLESS WAR!!!"
CASUS BELLI*
Iroquois society began to collapse when it became devastated by disease. Wars began to be the fought by Iroquois against other groups to acquire people (the mourning war) and more resources and trade routes. The Huron to their North were allied with France but France refused to give arms to Hurons who weren't Christians. The Dutch and English didn't have such a qualm and so the Iroquois became much better armed than their neighbours.
So many things happened at once that catapulted the Iroquois to become a massive regional power.
+L'Orso “Il Piromane” Totalworriano Oh come on!
AlHoresmi sorry but has fan of EU4 my eyes were bleeding ç.ç
You play European war 4?
As someone from this region of New York (Onondaga), the story of Hiawatha and the Iroquois is a huge part of our history classes. Love seeing this recognition of the great Iroquois people
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oh ok thanks i didn't know
yass if I could sponsor this I would be giving this all my money each yet
+Mirjalol Mirsaburov how so?
I like dominations
Well, they DID list a Patreon link in the video description. So yes, you can support it!
The best estimate I’ve heard for the dating of these events is sometime around 1150. that was arrived at by looking at how many leaders the Haudenosaunee are supposed to have had and working out the average amount of time prestigious public offices held for life (popes, kings, supreme court Judges, etc) typically last.
Working back like that you get to somewhere around the mid-12th century
YES! This is the kind of video I wanted to see Extra history tackle!
I have to admit I was very surprised to see this upload, but I'm also extremely grateful to see my local history being shared and given attention by a larger outlet. Thank you very much for sharing this story, E.C.
When I still worked at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, I always liked to tell people in the Hall of American Indians about the Haudenosaunee. I loved working the cultural halls in general, but it was something fresh and interesting for the visitors considering how little Native American history is taught in US schools.
There not called Indians
@@jamieharper1932cry more about it bro
What is the difference between American Indian and Alaska Natives?
tadodaho seems awfuly like me when im plaing EU 4 as a tribal nation
It's fucking EU4, a game that seems to take ideas about war not from history, but from Warhammer.
I knew it wasn't just me who thought that!
I've never even played a Native American nation.
yeah it's a pretty boring game if you just try to maintain peace with everyone :P
How? Bigger army wins has always been true for humanity.
I am in awe of what you guys are doing with this history series. Everything is perfect. Everything down to the filtered voice on the narration is amazing. I especially love that you guys pick stories that not a lot of people are terribly familiar with. Keep up the good work!
A new Extra History on a Thursday?! What have I done to deserve this is it my birthday???
It's beautiful
The beauty of SponCon
Yesterday just so happened to be my birthday. Don't worry, I'm willing to share my late birthday present.
Aw happy birthday! Hope it was great, and thanks for sharing this gift with us ;)
Mine is today now actually XD
Tadodaho: you Idiot! in this world is kill or be kill!
Knowing that one day all tribes can live in peace filled Hiawatha with DETERMINATION!
+CaptainNnif That sounds interesting. Just don't give TOO much reverence to Native culture.
The undertale is strong with this one.
Unfortunately Tadodaho may have been right once English settlers arrived.
*****
You're right. War would have certainly stopped the plagues that killed most Native Americans. (facepalm)
Cabbadath B
Back again with the plagues, I see? Don't tell me that things could not of turned out very differently if instead of having peace, they ordered a massive surprise attack on the settlers, wiping them out and deterring further colonization.
I think it's great that you guys are doing a series on First Nations history before the arrival of Europeans. So many times whenever I hear about the history of Native Americans, it's always about how they were conquered and displaced by European invaders. I never get to learn the history of their culture before Columbus.
And I especially appreciate that the subject matter of Extra History isn't limited to any particular culture, or even format of historical record. It's pretty hard to do fact checking when you're getting all your information from an oral history. But the fact that your acceptable forms of historical records are not limited merely to scripture, shows an open mindedness and an eagerness to learn and share the wisdom of the past, which isn't always as broad in scope as some people would like to believe of themselves. Besides, sometimes the lessons that history can teach us, are more important than getting all the tiny details right.
Thank you sincerely for sharing these stories with all of us.
Hiawatha: make your own choices!
Also Hiawatha: you must Choose peace.
I live in Wisconsin, near where the Oneida reservation is today, and I think it's super cool that you're telling this story about the formation of this confederacy.
also in wisconsin, the amtrak line connecting milwaukee to chicago is called the hiawatha line.
It's quite interesting listening to this because I used to live in the Mohawk Valley and never knew that. I just knew the name sounded familiar because there's street named after him in Syracuse by the mall . And I was also stationed by there with the Army National Guard.
Yay, indigenous American history! So glad to see it here.
Wow, this was one your best episodes: easy to grasp, important content, funny and very informative illustrations (who drew this one?)... I bow to you extra credits/history people, this was a treat.
9:22
"Ohana means family. Family means "no one gets left behind." - Lilo & Stitch
Well, if a guy just wants to make war. Give him NO ONE to fight against.
I'm glad you're bringing this up, too few realize how much the Natives influenced our nation's government/creation and its formation :)
Thank you so much for these episodes. It can be tricky finding these kinds of stories of the First Nations online and especially challenging to find them told by people of European descent with respect. I appreciate your disclaimers at the beginning of this video as well, that this is one interpretation of the story, and the way you treat this particular episode like a storyteller and use the correct names and words for all involved. It is easy as a white man to feel nothing but sadness and guilt when discussing Native American history but this really warms my heart, thank you for telling this story and being so respectful.
Great video! My students enjoyed it and learned a lot in the process!
Theodora...suleimon...Hiawatha don't know if it's extra history or Civ 5
Next up, Dido, and the foundation of Carthage.
easy, if you have not been nuked by ganhdi then its not Civ5 xD
I mean... You know what civ is based on, right?
Dude I love how hand in hand civ 5 goes with World History classes. I felt like I learned so much from it when I covered the material in school that I was playing at home
I got that feeling more from EU4 and the Total War games, civ 5 feels like historical fanfiction... Not to discredit the game in any way, civ 5 is great, but Gandhi just nuked the shit out of Dido...
Could you do one about the Mayans, Aztecs and/or Incas?
Romar Paqueo they did Incas
I wouldn't call the Aztecs peaceful.
@@justinnnnnn5676 Neither were the Inca empires don't just spring up. The Mayans also had periods of warfare city state vs city state.
Extra History has expanded my understanding of history so much, and has given me so much evidence to combat the claims that "humans are inherently evil and cannot escape their own fate." Thank you so much for everything you do. You help people better themselves, and I respect you so much for that
Gentle-dudes, your vids are "A"-mazing. Thank you and kindly, keep it up!
✌🏾
I can't say I ever expected you all to do an episode on Hiawatha & the Peace Maker.
Don't forget Jigonseseh. She's going to prove to be important.
Indeed she will. :) I just know the story by the name Hiawatha and the Peace Maker.
After seeing them do the South Sees bubble and then do two WWII videos [one about the EASTERN front (OMG its like they don't even know Germany was defeated because 'murica just rode in on a white horse and saved the day!) and the other about the significance of strategic resources]. I don't think I can be surprised anymore.
I remember learning about this in Elementary school, growing up in NY. I wish I had learned more, this sounds like an amazing group of people.
Thank you guys so much for posting this! I love learning about the histories and cultures of the First Nations, so this is incredibly interesting to me! Plus, I especially love seeing less well known aspects of history covered on Extra Credits. I love how you emphasized how the Great Law of Peace had an influence on the US Constitution and how it, and the Haudenosaunee, are still around today.
I have seriously binge watched this series in the span of three days. Never stop doing these. These are amazing! If I was an art history, or just plan history teacher I would so take time to show any of these to my students, but seriously how amazing has TH-cam become? For what was once one of the most boring classes in school we know push away free time to actively watch?
This is incredibly interesting, and I've never heard about this portion of history. Thanks for choosing this!
Peacemaker says, "You have colored beads... I like your style."
Awesome episode.
I love this video series. I am glad that you guys are willing to do it every week.
I'm loving what you guys are doing! Please never stop spreading this knowledge! I'd never even heard of Hiawatha before this!
Brought to you by the best civilization in Civ V.
cmon! Venice is waaaay better!
+Dale Ghandi :^)
IMPI IMPI IMPI IMPI IMPI
Babylon is probably the best civ in civ 5 due to the science ramping but to each there own
ummm.... It's a joke. Venice and Iroquois are terrible.
people whom feed from the same stew pot, share kinship...words to live by
+DrunkbandPresents If only the Freys heard that saying.
clearly we need to make this happen, Estus Soup for all who need/want it for whom am i to judge the will of the hungry
The Freys had heard that saying, or something equivalent, which was the reason the Starks let their guard down. The Freys broke not just their alliance, but the hospitality rules that are fundamental to Westerosi morality.
Kevin Baker
Yes I know of the 'bread and salt' rule which was mentioned multiple times throughout the book but I just felt making a quick joke on it.
This is one of your greatest history videos, I would totally dig more episodes from peoples with rich oral history that tends to fall through the cracks of written history. Keep up the awesome work!
THE BEST OF A SERIES OF EXCELLENT VIDEOS. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU!
Did you know Mohawk is a name that was given to that tribe by their ennemies? Mohawk means cannibal. Their real name is Kanien'kehá:ka.
Your comment interest me.
Could you share more, or reference me to someone who may know more?
I’ve heard that the Europeans did that with pretty much all the tribes. They named them what their enemies called them.
9:25 .. Hiawatha always had a Plan. .. oh w8 that was Bismarck ^^ .. but Hiawatha might always had one too. :)
Thanks for this guys (and DomiNations), it is wonderful to see some First Nations history.
What a fantastic bit of history that I had never known! I lived in the New England and New York area for 20 years, and never had a single history teacher come close to explaining the formation of the Iroquois Nation in such detail, let alone in such a concise and entertaining manner! Kudos to you Extra Credits team!
2:30 But how did that tragic accident happe-
Walpole. It was Walpole.
Slap my Hand! It's always Walpole. Also, **slap**
What’s that?
So so far on Extra history we've had Hiawatha of the Iroquois, Shaka of the Zulu, Suleiman the Magnificent, Samurai oda nobunaga and Justinian of Byzantium. Does this mean we're eventually going to cover all the Civilization Five leaders?
If that's the case, I'm hoping they delve into ancient Egyptian history, since I know next to nothing about it.
Great video channel 👍🏽
The reason I clicked on this was because I'm currently playing Hiawatha in Civ 5. The 'Longhouse' buff is awesome. 🙂
BTW, it's Empress Theodora for Byzantium in Civ 5.
You guys cover history from every civilizations. It's amazing! Thanks a bunch :)
I love north American history! Thank you for this video, your team is truly inspiring!
I miss this narrator
When I read Hiawatha as the title, I remembered:
By the shores of Gitche Gumee,
By the shining Big-Sea-Water,
Stood the wigwam of Nokomis,
Daughter of the Moon, Nokomis.
Dark behind it rose the forest,
Rose the black and gloomy pine-trees,
Rose the firs with cones upon them;
Bright before it beat the water,
Beat the clear and sunny water,
Beat the shining Big-Sea-Water.
I'm so excited about this! I live in upstate ny, so I'm happy you guys are covering something local to me.
This was a very good episode. Well done! :)
It was easy to follow and comprehend. The length was perfect, too.
i love this. Im ashamed about how little I know of native american history
Hiawatha had a plan
Hiawatha *ALWAYS* has a plan
"In a family, no one is beyond saving."
Great line.
Awesome! Thank you, ExtraCredits and DomiNations!
Canadian History!!!
Thanks Extra Credits!
more like New York history bro.
Ha! Nope
Well, "Canadian namesake" history, then. "Canada" comes from a misunderstanding of the word "Kanata", meaning "viilage/settlement".
The Native American tribes were around before Canada.. The Mohawk territory ranged north to the St. Lawrence River, southern Quebec and eastern Ontario... So Canada.
Current borders didn't exist and as such this history encompasses both Canada and the USA.
Wow. Extra history goes more in depth with the Iroquois than my school. ( I live in canada so we spend about 2 years in elementary and one in high school again so you would of think that I know a lot of the iroquois but no)
As a descendant of the Haudenosaunee, I am honored and thrilled that you guys are talking about my ancestors ! I actually didn't study their story, I only know bits and pieces of it, you are teaching me my heritage. I didn't think it was possible for my respect of you to rise this high and yet to continue rising.
I love these videos! And this piece of history is amazing. Thank you for sharing it with me!!
"So, hey... War is kinda bad, all this death and chaos makes living somewhat unpleasant... How 'bout we organize some laws to bring peace to our homes, and talk our neighbours into following so... yeah, even the dickheads..."
Who's the civilized continent now huh?
When the Europeans came, the Iroquois had no problem playing the same game. They absorbed new tribes and made war expanding their territory from Albany all the way to Detroit.
In the end, they weren't undone by disease so much as a split between the member tribes on who to side with during the American Revolution.
+Plowbeast yeah as shown in AC3
Undone by a split? The native Americans never really stood a chance against Europeans. The Europeans not only developed the modern weapons the natives were just learning to use, but also had centuries to develop military methods, drills, etc, that went hand in hand with the new weaponry, one influencing the other. In addition, they had a far more specialized civilization, much greater understanding of science, more efficient methods of production, which leaves more manpower, greater reserves of ammo and better logistics, and so on. Not to disparage any accomplishments or bravery of the native Americans, but... they never really stood a chance.
Then the nation become big, greed return, war comes.
GreyWolfLeaderTW It depends where. The hardest hit by disease were right on the Atlantic seaboard in North America, the Caribbean, and the initial Spanish landings.
Tribes further inland were affected but not as much such as the Iroquois while even more insulated tribes west of the Mississippi were affected even less. It's for that reason that some Iroquois tribes survived and many of the Western tribes did at least in number even if they are not thriving by internal measures.
"If you like their system so much go live with them!" The more things change XD
I love this series and as an Upstate New Yorker I'm thoroughly enjoying this one in particular. We are many local stories and legends about the native peoples who lived here on Seneca Lake. Many of our villages, landmarks, our lakes and mountains, even many notable tourist attractions are Native American in origin. Their stories and legends and histories deserve to be remembered. So thank you Extra Credit for spreading the word on one of the most beautiful and historic locations in the Northeast. I love the Finger Lakes I love the Finger Lakes region and recommend everyone visit comma weather be for our famous vineyards or are Native American history. :-)
Wow, the character art in this episode is some of the best yet!
I've commented this before and I'll do it again: why may we not learn about this branch of history in school? It's interesting, it's different, and we can honestly probably learn more from it than whatever what's-his-face James Taylor or Millard Fillmore did.
Cool to see some Native American history. It rarely gets explored in most series, sadly.
Thank you guys very much to give us all these little chunks of history that can make perceive a much bigger world, a much bigger history of those we didn't know.
50 seconds into the video and I'm already loving it. Well done. Keep it up.
my teacher made a worksheet that’s being graded as a quiz based off of this video 😭 love the video tho!!
Amazing!!! 😱
Tadedahao Redemption arc incoming? yes? no?
This one was one of your best ones. I can't wait for part 2.
this is actually really intetsting for me to listen to because I'm actually from upstate New York and have heard all these names but never the story. Thanks extra crew for teaching me about my local history!
As someone from Oneida (not the tribe the county) this means a lot to, the tribes got kinda messed up and there story’s need to be told!
Released 2 minutes ago, 10 minute video, already has 29 likes... You guys watch videos fast
I always like Extra History, even before watching it
If it's extra history I like it before I play the video.
fair enough, fair enough
8x speed! Ain't nobody got time for listening to anything slower!
The train called the Hiawatha f7 is one of my favorite and I'm glad to hear about it's namesake
This is utterly inspiring. I've never heard this story before. Looking forward to the second part.
YEEESSS, never thought id see a native being talked about on here lol we dont get much exposure
Mohawk here
It's nice to have our culture and society appreciated
I'm 1/3 Mohawk I'd love to learn more about that part of my heritage.
@@QuillStroke Yeah me too.
On the American side.
@@QuillStroke I’m only 1/64 Mohawk but yes, this is a very interesting topic.
As someone who grew up near Hiawatha Island, I want to thank you for giving something near and dear to my heart this attention, and helping me to understand the island's namesake.
I live in Onondaga County love hearing and learning about the Haudenosaunee, playing hockey I played with a lot of guys who are part of the nation and the history and culture are absolutely amazing
and then they lived happily ever after. Until they ware massacred and and taken away from their lands.
Could you give an explanation of what it means for a tribe to be the little brother of another tribe?
I guess more or less the same roots, maybe close trade relations, a interwoven culture and so on.
Probably like a Cadet branch to a noble family but for a larger unit, like a clan.
Might it be similar to ancient Greek colonies, and how they always had a mother city?
Sort of like how the US and Canada are separate nations but largely a single people ethnically and culturally. These tribes were likewise independent but related. In truth, they were ALL a single people but lacked the communications and infrastructure to maintain a single state (until the Confederacy).
Canada isn't U.S's Vassal or little brother more like an example of a modern day Vassal would be the America and Guam.
About Time You Guys did an episode about Native America.
Luv This Channel.
I'm so glad that he said our name right.
Wow they were so enlightened! The sad part is that by listening to all this, I get the impression that the very reason why Native American technology stagnated for so long was because of this 'lasting peace' and so when the Europeans came they were no match. Such a terrible end for so great a human achievement
+Glenssuos Extra
thanks, I am interested in this topic
Well, I wouldn't put it to their state of peace to them being conquered. I would blame it on their geographical position. In their area they had no domesticated animals which meant they could not build up tolerance fur diseases that came from animals, as well as them being isolated from the rest of the world, meaning that developments like gun powder and steel weapons and armor could not be obtained.
War was quite common, as well as human sacrifices and small genocides, depending on whereabouts in America you look. I'm not smart enough to know the real reason why they couldn't/didn't develop better technology on the scale of their European neighbours, but it certainly was not the fault of a lack of war.
Necessity is the mother of invention and they felt like they had everything they needed.
@@VintageLJ competition. Europe is tiny, and filled with many nations. They never had enough resources, and so developed to gain an edge. Meanwhile, North America had many resources. There was enough for all, and so they did not need to develop as fast as Europe did. Furthermore, almost all of Europe is linked to water and could trade and learn from most of the world.
But everything changed when the Europeans came.
Plagues and all...
Incredible episode, I just wish it would be longer, but I'll take what I can get. I love learning more about Native American history and culture, so I hope you guys can do other episodes about this topic in future.
If anyone knows about other TH-cam videos about this subject or any TV series like "500 Nations" please let me know.
This is wonderfull, love this peacefull episode!
Hiawatha wants peace because training warriors is time wasted not cranking out settlers to settle more cities.
wow i am really early i would make a joke but im not a duchebag
Thank you for being a decent human being
BUT HE STILL SAID IT!!!
"in a family, no one was beyond saving." that made me tear up, beautiful job
I love it when we get to hear more about native/aboriginal histories from the US, Australia, and the Middle East! Thanks so much for making yet another awesome video! =]