This Could Be The End | Can The Cessna 310 Even Be Saved?
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- was this abandoned airplane a mistake? I go over all the details and how much everything costs.
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The truth is, there are extremely few airplanes, boats, and cars, that are ever worth the money one has to put into them to restore them. One does it because one wants to. If the goal here is financial return, this is likely the wrong plane to work on given it needs a complete restoration as opposed to some serious fixes and she flies again. But, if the goal is "because", then go for it!
I wish I were filthy rich as I'd fund the project, but, alas, I'm about the exact opposite!
Hopefully the "miracle at the end" is the saving grace for this plane!
Totally agree, this is Jimmys World fan aircraft, we want it back in the air BECAUSE ... whatever the reason, the client is king, we want the 310 back in the air to do some good stuff for people in needs or veterans whatever even as a training aircraft for young pilots that they could rent the aircraft for a very good amount of money and you make a show about it. The plane was forgotten for so many years just like alot of veterans ... It's emotional more than financial here. Let's put that old bird in the air where she belongs!
I totally agree with you.
Jon is perfectly correct, one doesn't restore a vehicle of any type to make money. I have an aging Jaguar that costs me money every month to keep on the road. I could have bought two new Fords (God forbid!) for the money this costs me each year, Why do I do it? Because I love it (and I love my wife, but she's cheaper to run!). So-oo, if you can't justify the cost of renovating it, then turn it into parts and try to recoup some of what you have spent on it.
it sounds like jimmys heart isnt in it as much as before
I know exactly what you mean. I have a 1971 Corvette Convertible. I have at least $100,000.00 in it now. Fun to drive through.
Jimmy, you know exactly what you need to do, buddy. It's ok those of us saying you need to save the 310, but we're not into it for 30, 40, 50,000 dollars, really needing to cut our losses and spend time and money on a financially viable and realistic project. It's not like the 310 is a classic warbird or an incredibly rare aircraft with some sort of cool provenance.
DO what you got to do, fella. Your fans want you to keep producing awesome content and you can't do that if you're flat broke.
We love you dude and we're behind you 110%
but how long will you watch if he starts a project then gives up because it's too something (especially something he knew going in)? no one watches quitters. Just sayin'
@@stoneshrink Yeah, I'll carry on watching Jimmy. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and take the sensible option of not throwing good money after bad. Very few of us were born into limitless wealth that allows us to pursue projects regardless of cost.
Just as you have no time for "losers". I have no time for sanctimonious, self riteous, self important types. I'm sure the channel won't miss you, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
@@ScarbadosSlim TH-cam is for entertainment. It is not, ever, to be mistaken for real life - what you say isn't wrong for real life, it is, however, a way to kill a channel. Add to this the premise that he was going to save the 310 - no matter what - and you have the beginnings of the problems that are to come.
@@stoneshrink I get your point that TH-cam is for entertainment, and you're right. To us this channel is something we click on for our own amusement. For Jimmy, it's a window into his own very real world. If he was like, for example, the Top Gear TV show, backed by some big production company with an almost inexhaustible budget he'd be able to ignore the obvious financial implications because it would be someone else's money he was spending. As he's said, he's already poured an obscene amount of his own money into this project and as sad as it obviously is, sometimes you just have to put your sensible trousers on, cut your losses and make the very difficult decision to admit defeat. I've had to do the same thing in the past with one or two old cars. The only thing in my favour is the fact I didn't let the toss of a coin decide what I was going to attempt. It was my decision to start and my decision to stop.
Maybe it's because I don't come from a wealthy or even a reasonably well off background that I understand the value of not wasting money. To me, the figures he talks about are absolutely eye watering. I can't even begin comprehend those amounts of money being spent on frivolities like restoring a relatively unimportant aircraft. It just doesn't make sound business sense.
@@ScarbadosSlim This is simply restating what I said - so forgive me if it comes across in a bad manner. I'd completely agree with you except he took money from people to #savethe310. You and I both have cut losses - but we didn't (presuming, but feeling safe to do so) break our promise. That's the difference, to me, Did you ever watch Plane Savers? Twice now, he took on a task that he never would have finished without substantial help - help he didn't know he was going to get (or even aware that it was possible). He did that by not making promises. This could be that, but the first step is honesty and honestly, he's on the verge of losing something that may never come back.
As a proud owner of a 1965 310J, I would suggest you review trade a plane and controller again. Older 310's with lower time engines and three blade props, are somewhere between 100 and 125k. Only high time engines are at reduced prices around 70k. This is building your brand and reputation, and you will at least break even including the exposure and goodwill.
Jimmy, making a small fortune in aviation is easy, just start with a large one! The 310 is a great looking plane but this one has been neglected too much…
I'm having fun watching you restore the 310, but if it's not financially viable, my vote is to stop and move on. Whether it's the 310, the Aztec, or some other plane, I'll be here to watch.
From what i can see he might break even but, i believe if he continues the project he can definetly break even also from youtube money. I mean more videos, more content, more subs eventually it might be viable at least. (i know its not enormous money from youtube , but monthly it might actually be ok)
I second that, i would LOVE to see this thing in the air but i love seeing this channel even more.
I agree the value of the plane is just not there but I for one will always be back and watch whatever you got to bring back to life and as a donator small but will be there for the other aircrafts as well
Yeah, your channel won't die if you are transparent with the status of where the money went, etc. Nobody who has watched a few episodes will accuse you of being a huckster.
Maybe the best way to look at it is like restoring an old car. You’re not in it to make buck but to enjoy it on a Sunday drive and to show it off.
I’ve flown a 310 just like yours. I loved it! I’ve flown barons, bonanzas, many other GA planes, DC-9’s, MD80’s, 727, 757, 767. I’ve only owned in 54 years flying, 2 planes. Old Cherokee six and now a 1947 35 v-tail bonanza. My two planes were just about turn-key. I can’t imagine all you’ve gone through with the 310, but you have so much more to do, and more deficiencies will be found. Bottom line: it’s a money pit. Part it out, and move on!!! As for the Aztec, if you think it’s an excellent airplane and an inexpensive candidate to get flying, make THAT one your project. Just my 2 cents worth…
If you had 3 of them got cheap maybe could make one fly usually these types of people who leave them outside to rot also less likely to part with it for scrap price.
I think it's about time to let the 310 go and move on to the astic
The fact that someone left their airplane sitting outside for years should be a clue how they took care of it. Amazing something so expensive would be left to rot in the rain but it's no different then anything people leave outside to rot.
Time to let this one go. The 310: rust, corrosion throughout the frame, no wiring, fuel system etc.
Loved watching the videos; the 2 part in CA was a gem. Jimmy, the information just in your run down on the costs incurred on the 310 so far is an education. Please share the spreadsheet if possible. The variety of things you touched on in this project is what made this so interesting. Anyway, live and learn, how about applying what you have learned so far to improve on your next project? Sparky, Grizzlie, Dr. Phil came together on this project, how about using that expertise and your experience (rot, corrosion, cutting planes apart etc.) on a new more feasible project. No barn finds, do a 40 min. story on each candidate. Give us a 10 min. rundown on the economics etc.
I am going to keep watching!
Well Jimmy……. I was in your shoes with a 1959 Cessna 310-C thirty years ago. It was also a Florida a/c. I purchased it after it had been annualed. I flew it for a year and took it in to my mechanic for my first annual. I got the call that it had wing spar corrosion. I was beside myself. I don’t come from a family with a lot of money. A middle income family. I was lost. Just lost. I ended up speaking to an airline captain who asked me if I wanted to part it out or repair it. He asked me if I had learned how to read in my public education and college. He suggested that I buy an Illustrated Parts Catalog and a maintenance manual. I ended up getting a hangar and spending 4.5 years with an IA replacing the wing from Preferred Airparts, rebuilding an engine and an inspection. I did it when everyone asked me why? And I won’t tell you how many people doubted I could complete it and fly it again. Needless to say, after 4.5 years of love and work, I flew it again and went on to make a career as a pilot. Not easy. Not for everyone. But the people that helped me along the way are priceless. It’s all about your DNA. I couldn’t do it again today, however it was a priceless lesson on patience and learning. I did it. You can’t take it away. What a BEAUTIFUL airplane though. The C-310’s are delightful to fly. I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You’re gifted in so many ways. You bring back years of great memories for me. Thank you. GOD Bless you. And GOD has a plan. Best wishes & continued success Jimmy!
So there you go! That's what aviation has become for many of us. Does it make financial sense? Absolutely not! Run away as fast as you can....but then you miss the experience of a lifetime. What is that worth? The answer? It's priceless.
Jimmy, I have not bought any of the merchandise you have sold, however, I have watched you almost from day one. You have so much time in this project, continue.
amen!
Jimmy, I have been watching the 310 saga for a while. Personally my red line for the plane would have been "man no matter what I ever do to this thing I am never getting the mouse smell out of it. This plane is DOA." You are braver than me for going as far as you did. Loved watching it, but cut the cord man. If you go bankrupt there might not be any more Jimmy adventures for us to watch.
I’ve totally enjoyed watching you and your team work on this wonderful old airplane. I’m no financial wizard, but I understand enough about the numbers you crunched during the video to realize that attempting to restore the 310 is a no-win situation. I think you’d be better served by selling off the 310 and the Aztec, and using that money to finance something that will last a lifetime, something that would bring you joy while keeping you in comfortably in the black for the rest of your life (which will pass by faster than you think). I don’t know exactly what that would be in your world. Adventure is a good thing, futility is not. It will slowly siphon the life out of you. You’ve got me as a viewer for life. I trust that you’ll find something fun that’ll keep us entertained. You’ve got a talented crew in your corner. Good luck with your decision.
please get this airplane back in the air!!!! I look forward to these videos every week!
It sounds like you DO know what you’re going to do. Honestly, I’m a subscriber because of the 310. Before this project I’d get recommendations for this channel and I always skipped them. But I’ve been fascinated with restoring old things, and maybe the Aztec will be a suitable replacement for that itch of mine.
Milviz is soon releasing the Cessna 310 for mfs2020, come join us in the sim world!
I feel like I wrote this comment 🤣 I used to scroll past until I saw this aswell 😅
Save the Aztec
Love your videos! As a soon to be private pilot and hopefully an A&P mechanic, I learn a lot from your vids. Love your positivity and humor! We believe in you! CLEAR PROP!!!
No matter what you ultimately decide to do with the mouse, I will absolutely continue to watch your channel. This has been an adventure that I am always watching for updates on, I will be a little disappointed if it doesn't continue, but it makes sense. I love the crew that you have, and look forward to more content!
30 yr. career A&P here. Cut your losses and run. Honestly, I was blown away that you even started on that basket case. Don't get me wrong, love saving an old plane. Done it myself several times but you gotta "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em". Put your time, effort, and money into the Aztec. Might be different if this was your "forever" plane and you were going to fly the heck out of it to recoup the investment. Thanks for the content.
Jimmy I really do enjoy your channel. I’m an early contributor to the 310 restoration. However, I can see that you have really had your back against the wall with this project! Wishing you the best always!
your youtube has been more than worth the donation i made, but sounds like there is a whole lot more to come. i cant wait till sunday!!! thanks for the memories!!
I don't know that much about aircraft, being an old auto mechanic, but I hate to say how many automotive projects I started with high hopes, but eventually came to the point at which I just had to cut my losses and put my money and efforts into another vehicle with more promise, of which there are many. I have enjoyed your site for some time now, and you have inspired me and many others with a zeal for saving old airplanes. Don't stop now, but just re-direct your efforts into saving another aircraft that deserves to be flying again. I get my interest in airplanes from my time in the CAP in 1960-1962, in San Antonio, Texas, out of the old Brookes Air Force Base, flying gliders with an instructor, which was a real thrill for me at that time and still brings back great memories of flight. God bless and guide you in your decision.
I understand it's hard to walk away from this one, I like everyone else has enjoyed watching it. Sometimes you've gotta just cut your losses. I know you probably did this episode to show what a daunting and expensive project this would be to bring the 310 back, and you don't want to let any of us down, especially everyone who's donated money or time on the project. But unless you win the lottery or find a Daddy Warbucks to fund you, it''s alright to just walk away!
Knowing when to cut your losses is important......I think you are there, Jimmy!
As I get older I have found myself saying “I used to have” I have also had to sell things I wanted to keep to pay bills. There comes a point where there are no longer things that were once common, such as cars, boats, airplanes etc. By saving the 310 you are saving a beautiful part of history for the future. Saving it so others that may not have been born yet can be inspired and awed by history.
Restoration is not normally done for to make a profit, they are a labor of love. Many of what were once the most common planes and massed produced have no flying examples left. Jimmy, please Save the 310
Holding off on the 310 is likely the best option, and I will still remain a fan. We've all experienced the same passion you had to see it become a success, but also learned valuable lessons along the way. When it comes time for any one of us to consider buying a plane, watching you helps us avoid re-inventing the wheel. We know more about what to look for, to not allow planes (or any vehicle) sit too long without regular maintenance and care, to have a good team of people of various expertise to inspect before buying. We learn that that owning a plane requires more attention than just a desire to just fly. Keep up the good work, and personalities! We love you, not just the planes! Can we get a Clear Prop!!
Ahhhh! The 310. When we drove by, she got our eye. When we seen her at 50 feet, her make up was sweet. BUT when we tried to get close to you, we noticed the flaws, just a few. We spent a ton of money, but you didn't turn out a honey. And so we are feeling a little sad, we tried but you turned out bad. RIP 310 so that we can start over on another plane yet again.
Jimmy, as a day one contributor, I am surprised you are still doing this project. That first show had me in tears dude. I have a soft spot for 310's. I am with you regardless of what you decide. If you do continue I will cough up more dough.
Same if I can I'll donate more
Your brave
Jimmy, I am a former private pilot and businessman. I really enjoy your videos and have watched them all. Regarding the 310, as much as I would enjoy seeing you complete the project, it just doesn’t make much sense, not only from a financial perspective, but almost equally as the efficient use of time. That tremendous loss of the time to bring this project to a successful conclusion could surely be spent on reviving other airplanes that are not nearly as far gone as the 310. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
Pete from Northeast Florida
You have come so far….. don’t give up now she deserves to soar once again.
Keep saving the 310 because I really want to see you fly that plane with ur family and friends
Hey Jimmy, just want to say thanks! I’m a new pilot and watching you tear in to these things really helps me get a better knowledge of systems! Thanks again!
Picking battles means picking battles. I’d be happy seeing the energy put into the Aztec 🙏🏼❤️
#SAVETHE310! Love the videos and have learned a great deal watching these videos. I knew aviation parts would be more expensive, but nowhere near what they truly are and or have been. Y’all keep up the great work!
The 310 series of videos have been interesting and serve as a cautionary tale for anyone kicking the tires on an old non flying aircraft. I say scrap it and move on.
Okay Jimmy, here's my take on this - donate the whole aircraft to an A&P school. Take the tax write off, then concentrate, AFTER a thorough INSP, on the Aztec...IF it passes an insp, and is deemed financially viable, proceed doing the Aztec. You already have a great crew put together, I especially like "SPARKYS WORLD",(lol), and "GRIZZLYS WORLD". So stop reading this and get yer butt back to work ;}>
Thanks! hahaha
That's the solution. 310 a money pit🙄
@@therealjimmysworld This is the smart and correct option....donate the plane to a A & P school (if one would take her) and you can get a tax deduction. Love your videos.
I'm no expert on any of this, but this seems to be the correct answer to me. Could lead to some more 310 content in the future as well, with Jimmy visiting said school and checking up on it for us all to see.
I also have to agree with @gotcha going.
I have watched all of the 310 videos and learned a ton. In fact if my current profession doesn’t pan out I’m sure after watching a few more videos that I will be able to take the AI exam. I agree with the vast majority of the viewers that the 310 is too far gone to restore. The corrosion is a huge concern as it will take an inordinate amount of time and money to repair. When you add in engine, fuel bladders and avionics the cost will be way more than it is worth.
Couple comments 1. I was flying a C model when an 8 inch piece of the rt prop departed. Ask me how bad an engine engine can shake out of it's mounts. The port engine literally was headed toward the cockpit when it was finally feathered. The prop mfg and the insurance fought over who got the rest of the prop/engine.
2. Part this thing out. Take your money and start a new doable project. We applaud your efforts! Love your channel. But Jimmy, give us something to work with!! LOL.... How bout an old Citabria. Learn acrobatics with a shiny rebuilt Simple ✈ airplane. You've got a great team!!! Give them some love, with a workable project...
JIMMY....The 310 sits proud and 😊 happy...dont make your....poor....little .....toy cry....you're half way there! This will be the highlite of your life! It's only 💰 money! Do it! Do it! Do it!!
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I wont hold it against you if you pull the plug on the 310 jimmy, ive been in the same position with projects. Love the videos jimmy keep it up you do a great job.
Jimmy you didn't want to do this rebuild in the first place, because you understood. You did a great job of explaining to the viewers in this video how "up hill" this is getting.
I have had my A&P for 37 years.
Federal aviation regulations are complicated, and the lengths, and expense one has to go to just to stay within those regulations is easily lost on people who are not in the industry.
This 310 rebuild is not like doing a restoration on a 1970 Hemi Barracuda, it's like doing a frame up resto. on a 1973 Olds Vista Cruiser station wagon. Just not worth it.
Hey, first time viewer from Europe here. I love your videos regardless of what you do. Don’t go bankrupt over your viewers please - I’ll be here watching your show regardless of what you do. Having said that, if it ever does fly I salute you for your plan flying veterans. Godspeed to you sir.
I would love to see the 310 fly again, it's an integral part of your channel and I'm sure I speak for most of us viewers when I say we'd be VERY glad to see you continue this project, however if it proves to be a massive financial burden to the point where you can't focus on any other aircraft but the 310, then there is a chance you may have to ditch the project. Whatever your choice ends up being we'll stick with you and continue to watch avidly whichever plane is lucky enough to be in your hands and getting restored to it's former glory.
I'm kinda on the fence on this one, I mean you've come this far with the 310 I say finish it if you can but I can also understand your position. Jimmy you mentioned to your viewers what to do with the 310 once it's finished like angel fights etc... but I think the Aztec is a better fit for that being a much more powerful and roomy aircraft for that kinda use. Maybe you could finish the 310 and then the Aztec and that could be your money maker... but I don't know your finances. But please please if you choose to walk away from the 310 don't let it be scrapped, find it a good home.
We all love hearing an engine run after a personal rebuld. The first ride or flight of that antique machine after years of work.
Once in a while the gremlins win.
It's been a great ride but the 310 can save others as a donor.
You guys rock!
Don't give up, save the 310!!!!
So my suggestion of NT0DY was appropriate. Part out the 310 and get at the Aztec. Sometimes you just have to turn your back on something that you have invested in and never look back on it. At the end of the day, you'll be thanking yourself for doing just that. Good luck Jimmy !
As much as I love watching you and your pals struggle with the hot mess that is Mighty Mouse, I think the writing is on the wall. If it's not viable, be it due to finances or time, then it's DOA. The ~$200k that would go into making her airworthy again can go toward getting other airplanes restored and back in the air. Hell for that price you could buy a 310 that's already airworthy, fly it home, and pimp it out in Jimmy style!
You are this far into it. I think you should finish the 310. Your subscriber's are watching. I have enjoyed watching your channel.
@@Kmann_333 hes not really that far they have to tear it all the way down again
Being a "wiring geek" myself I totally empathize with the poor guy involved in this project. Admittedly, I have never had to rewire and airplane. However, I have restored several semi trucks and heavy duty Wreckers during my lifetime. I have always done all the wiring, hydraulic plumbing personally because I'm so OCD about connections, clamps, looms and routing that no one I ever found did it to my satisfaction. Once, while in the military we needed another recovery vehicle for my unit. We weren't authorized only but one So a couple of friends and I retrieved an M-915 tractor that had been in an accident and deemed "unecnomicial to repair and shunted off to the streets yard. Well, over the next month or so the three of us, in our spare time, bartering or ordering needed parts using different Vin numbers and manufacturing parts that we couldn't obtain any other way, rebuilt that tractor including the modifications needed to turn it into a recovery truck. This included a complete rewiring job with additional circumstances to handle the extra systems required for use as a recovery truck (additional lights and hydraulic hoses for the lift and the additional winch. When I drove it back to the motor pool from the shop where we worked on it, complete with new paint, it looked brand new not like a 9 year old totaled out wreck that it had been just a couple of months ago. A few months later when it went through its semi annual Command Maintenance Inspection and the inspector opened the duty fasteners on the dash to inspect the wiring, he was flabbergasted. The whole Inspection team was to include the Major, the chief inspector. They couldn't believe that the truck was once a total and that it had been brought back to that condition by three individuals, none of whom were qualified mechanics. No one else ever drove that truck (or worked on it) except me. Now the Maintenance Warrant (who I didn't like anyway) wanted me to make up a wiring diagram and a hydraulic diagram and change the tachograph before I retired because I was the only one that knew how it was wired and plumbed. Anyone trying to work on that unit without that information would run into a nightmare, period. Now since I designed the system, but and installed all of it, I already had drawing of all of those systems. You have to have them in order to keep track of where you're at. However, he passed me off about two weeks before I retired so he never got any of that very necessary information. I still pitty the first guy who had to do any real work on that truck after I left. Moral, don't ever pass off some one who has worked on your project doing something you're not familiar with regardless of what it is Recovery Vehicle or Cessna 310 from 1956. You will regret it. Love your project. Keep it up.
My heart hurts for you Jimmy! That's so much money! I can say that I will continue to watch your content no matter what you do! Thank you for the entertainment!
I am genuinely enjoying these videos and its quite the highlight seeing where you and the team are going with this project. Just hope that its gonna keep going! Take it easy buddy.. Fan fm UK
Awesome, thank you!
I am glad you found your wedding ring easily, years ago the first day I got back from my honeymoon, I was throwing some trash in a great big, filled to the rim in a construction dumpster, and my wedding ring flew off my finger right into the center. I spent four hours in the dumpster before I found it. I was afraid to come home without it.
Thinking back to my training, ‘69-‘71, we were taught, ‘ALWAYS treat a propellor as LIVE’.
Jimmy, As one of your other subscribers said, I also grew up watching Sky King and that is the reason I became a pilot and also an owner of a C310. I did contribute to your cause but I think this aircraft would serve the c310 world as a parts aircraft to keep other airworthy C310s flying. Thanks for your site and on to other projects. To you, your family and your crew, be well and stay safe!
You’ve got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run.
That would make a good song.... ;)
Ya think ???
run Jimmy, RUN
he said theres maybe a miracle and IM NOT LETTING THE 310 DOWN until we see what its that miracle, patience always give good result :) she waited for Jimmy to discover her, long years, she deserve to fly again!
I really enjoy watching your channel and bought a "Save the 310 T-shirt". That being said in the business world that I am in sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on. It would be a shame if you had to close your show because of the 310 is not a viable project. All the best, Steve
G'Day Jimmy, loving the videos. I have learned a lot from these 310 videos already, but I think its probably best to part it out and restore the Aztec to awesome status. Either way, Im sure you'll make fun videos and I'll be watching.
Your 225k subscribers already gave you the answer with just $20k sponsorship.
Jimmy, "the money spent so far is sunk, forget what it cost before, sell it now for what it's worth", as my economics professor Billy Boyle used to say.
The $20k sponsorship paid by the select number of special subscribers is not lost, it has resulted in far more valuable entertainment provided by you and your mates for all of your 225k subscribers and is worth a heap more!
So now is the time to sell the parts and recoup your personal investment to plough into the next project. Put the excess from parts sales, after your and your mates personal costs are covered, into a worthy veterans charity.
Love from the UK, Desyduk.
Jimmy, love ya, love your channel. I'm an old Navy airedale, in-country Vietnam vet, and a retired merchant marine captain. At 74 years old I have made a fool out of myself on seven continents and several oceans, so of course, you should take my advice. Part out the 310 and get the Aztec flyin".
On the other hand, I don't have any money in it. See ya at Sun & Fun.
I am all about bankrupting someone else. While I would love to see the 310 restored it is time to pull the plug and put your efforts into aircraft that can be made airworthy.
Jimmy, thank you so much for the fascinating entertainment. Well, I have also learned a lot.
Live and learn!
I had a similar experience...With a boat.
I was convinced it was a good deal when I bought it.....I spent two years and a group of money before throwing in the towel......I called up a guy who said he wanted it, took his first offer, and walked away.........THAT was the first good decision I made about that boat.
Anybody in their right mind can recognize "STRESS". You are the kind of gentleman who professes to enjoy rebuilding airplanes but frankly I don't think you handle "stress" all that well. Wash your hands of the 310 and go take a vacation Jimmy. We'll be here when you come back much rejuvenated and raring to go!!
I think before you continue with either plane you need to get the airframe inspected for corrosion inside and out .
But what ever you do please keep the channel going I really enjoy it all.
Thank you Jimmy for starting your channel, your self and your crew make my day. Money, if you can get the rest of the funds from a donor to finish the 310 then keep going with it, if not part the 310 out, and start work on the Apache or another aircraft that can be saved. :-)
I can't wait to see the Aztec , you were right in your assessment of the 310 not being as suitable for ambulance service and load capacity compared to the Aztec
I have been watching and enjoying the 'Save the 310 series'. For me, the real question is, 'What will you do with the airplane when it's done?' You mentioned flying veterans or others to medical treatment. I love that idea, but with other's lives involved the aircraft will need to be perfect. Nothing would be worse than losing the 310 with others on board. If that is the goal, then this is not the right aircraft to start with. Find a solid airframe and start with that. You can recover enough $$ to get a really good start on your next restoration. So much good learning on this airplane. That's always the case. First car, first boat, first airplane. Then you know what NOT to buy. :-) Well done, but it's time to move past this aircraft.
It's simply time to admit the 310 has flat lined. It was a great lesson for any aviation fan to see the path taken to get to the final unfortunate determination. You are not losing me as a follower for doing the right thing! There's lots of other opportunities out there that I will gladly follow along with as you continue this journey. RIP 310! 😢 Now on to bigger and better things!
Honestly, the content is what brings me in, but if I don’t like the creator, I’m out. Jimmy I like you and the crew. You could probably do whatever and I’ll still watch.
Not viable to continue with the 310. Part out what you can and take any residual donations and apply funds to working on the Aztec.
Another option: Find an A&P school that will take the 310 as a donation and use it as a trainer for mechanics.
I never thought it was worth saving and it went downhill from there. Good try but it almost hurts to see all the problems this ship has.
I really enjoy watching you fix airplanes, but watching this is getting to be like torture.
Parting this thing out so that others can benefit the used parts is the smart thing to do.
I am a finance guy by profession and the cost benefit analysis puts this thing thing way under water.
Please make the right decision cause I will miss your channel.
Jimmy, thank you and the team for the great work but it is time to call it a day and give the 310 a respectable burial.
The 310 is what brought me into the channel… BUT!!! Change the name from Save the 310 to Part out the 310.
No, not the end….I sure hope not! Thank you Jimmy for such a great channel. And, if it is the end, there will be another project. Clear Prop!!🙂
watch till the end... there's always another project
Man…. You guys would be a blast to have a beer with…. Id love to see the 310 fly…. But in the end you’ve got to do what you feel is safe…. 👍🏻
Thanks so much and yes... it needs a couple things before I would feel safe with it.
@@therealjimmysworld Needs a couple things is the Understatement of the year!!
My wife says thank you Jimmy for convincing me not to buy a fixer upper Cessna 172. The expense is outrageous, throw in fuel, maintenance, insurance and tie down costs and I’ve come to grips with that whenever I fly again, I will be a renter. So many old planes out there will end up in a graveyard because of the absurd costs to put them back in the air. It’s sad.
I’m new to the channel, but it seems like Jimmy’s World is the Hoovies Garage of the aviation world. Love the content! Keep it coming!
Growing up, my favorite TV show was Sky King, with the Songbird and especially, Penny. Love the 310 as I do, it just doesn't make sense to spend upwards of $200k on a bird that might structurally, not be safe to fly. Sometimes you must listen to the brain and ignore the heart. Sad.
Where is Penny now? I think she wore cowboy boots.
Honestly. ... with everything yet to be replaced with time money and labor I think it would just be too cost prohibitive at this point before you get in to deep sell everything of value and move on to a plane that's in better condition
Keep going on the rebuild !
SAVE THE 310!!!! I’m an active duty Army Officer and soon to be veteran. Who knows…I may need a lift to a VA Center! SAVE THE 310!
Jimmy, watched you guys aall the way. I contributed and helped clean her up. Cool project but in the end you gotta write the checks. Maybe time to cut your losses. Start the Piper. Could be more useful even if you have to get an AW. Good luck and. CLEAR PROP!
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Sometimes you have to cut your losses and say it just isn’t going to happen. If the plane had sentimental or historical significance it might be worth saving. Part it out and move on down to the next bankruptcy event.
Dear Jimmy and Friends, you made an awesome job I never would have expected. So it’s sad to say this project is unpredictable from my point of view and the risk to end up in a disaster is high. I know this hurts but please put your fun and energy into a more successful project. But whatever you decide, I will follow you, ‘cause I love you ALL!
I learned a lot about flying watching your videos also it's interesting to see you restore the different planes.
Hey Jimmy, I've been following the 310 project from the beginning and you gave it a gallant effort, but sometimes you just have to cut your losses and walk away. Best of luck to you whatever you decided.
Jimmy, it would have been nice to see the 310 fly, then sell it to a flight school or a Caribbean island-hopping commuter. But after looking there bottom line, I think it's best to part it out or pass this project onto someone with bigger and deeper pockets for restoration. Be sure to recoup you investment into the 310 and apply those funds to the Aztec. 🤔🧐👍
It has been a fun journey and I have enjoyed the videos. I will continue to follow you as you hopefully move on to the Aztec. As for the 310, my opinion is it is time to pull the plug. Just no way to economically continue with the rebuild. Cant wait for the next vid, hopefully we will find out the cliff hanger you left us on. Time to get a CLEAR PROP on the aztec.
What a great project for a learning video on inspection and repairs. You could show destructive and non-destructive inspection methods, repair methods, and how to determine go / no go events.
Coming from your spot and recently “restoring” a pa28-140 there is not much of a reason to continue on the 310. The Aztec is your best bet and use the 310 parts to fund the Aztec
I agree, rebuilding a old twin is crazy, but rebuilding 2 twins is insanity. Part $$$ out for: Save the Aztec!
I agree!
As much as I want to see the 310 running. I think any project plane even a brand new kit would be fun to see. Keep up the entertainment 👍
Airplane math never really works out lol, but I and other like my self really enjoy this content. What you are doing for veterans alone is worth that in my book.
Good reality check Jimmy!
Painful sometimes… where there’s a will there’s a way :) Mighty Mouse may still have a path forward.
I've been watching the whole 310 journey and as much as I would love to see it fly, I don't want to see Jimmy go bankrupt for the sake of his followers. I think I will vote to let it go and move on to another restoration.
Personally, having watched all of the 310 videos, I would fear for the safety of anyone flying this derelict turkey. You would be safer if you hopped on to an actual turkey and tried to fly.
You are the man, you know what to do. Sell it as parts and move forward. I remember that the Azetc was in better condition, but I dont know if the project worth it. Sell all and buy a diamond 60 and travel all over the world. We will follow you (through internet) wherever you go!
Your buddy from Rebuild Rescue is crazy for trying to rebuild that death trap. It's clean now. that's something
I’ve been fallowing your progress and it’s time to stop the bleeding, bandages aren’t going to make it fly.
So much more you could do with the money and have a read to fly aircraft. If you know what it’s going to cost
You know the answer to your question.
I also follow you and I have the love of 310s from my childhood. You knew going in that it would cost a ton.
If you wanted to save it you knew it would be far more expensive than the cost you could recover. Once finished you will have a great plane
As much as I live 310s, this one is obviously not worth saving. Good effort Jimmy/Grizzly/Sparky. On to the next one!
I just wish I could be there to help with it but too old to do that now. I am an old (opterative word) Air Craft mechanic on both Piston engined and jet aircraft, My AFSC was Jet over two engines but being stationes at off shore bases( Both England and Germany) we did what ever the plane needed no matter what type it was.. I enjoyed my 5 years in the AF, met my wife of over 58 years. When I got out I went to work at a Pont dealership as a helper in the paint shop, after a few months moved to the body shop, did collision repair and later was body shop manager for a couple of years and left the dealer to open my own shop which I ran for 40 years. Still work in my shop but no customer work now only do work for family now. But facing a hip and two knees replacement so not doing much now. I have enjoyed all of your videos and have spent many evenings watching them. As for the 310 thats has to all be up to you. Good luck, Marvin Blair