Tom, tell us you wish they’d traded down without telling us you wished they’d traded down. Need Phil Perry to get on here and balance out Currans hate.
Curran seems to have lost his fastball when all the draft discussions- kept preaching trade down. That take got tired and now his reports are getting tired.
@@michaellalli7693 He was right. If Maye works it will be the greatest coaching performance ever. He played like crap last year in every game against a good team. His skills are simply horrible. He was the slowest QB getting through reps and getting rid of the ball in all div 1 football last year. It also seams he has a below average field perception.
Tom wasn’t perfect out of the gate. He was very good but developed better skills as he was coached. Curran is like the kid who likes a grunge band that nobody has heard of so he can say I found them first!
So Evan Lazar posted about the minicamp and said basically Maye wasn't throwing with near his full velocity because the coaches wanted him to slow down his process so he could concentrate on footwork, turning his hips and throwing motion etc. You don't correct fundamentals by ripping it every throw. Even still, Maye hit every part of the field. On the other hand, he said Milton rips every pass and completed 1 for 5 on 7 on 7's because he seems unable to ease off. Curren is sadly becoming another Felger.
I was literally coming to say this. And Maye was 5/6 in passes completed…. At this point I’m only subscribed to the channel because of Perry. I’m close to leaving this channel cuz of Curran
Evan Lazar? The same Evan Lazar that told the fans they didn't know what they were talking about when they criticized Mac Jones in 2022? Evan Lazar is a hack that latches onto whatever he's told is popular.
@@maddenplaya2097 I dont think hating on a guy he clearly wasnt a fan of during the draft, makes them the best. it makes him very biased. I think we have had enough of the pessimistic takes about this team the last few years between this and all over the radio every day
It's the kids first day his head is probably all over the place trying to learn everything they throw at him. Way to over analyze the kids day of practice Curran🤦🏽♂️
Exactly! The kid's 21 it's his first days and Curran's picking on him like a seasoned veteran after the post season....way to welcome the first pick Tom
"Patriots rookie QB Drake Maye was 5/6 in a light speed 7-on-7 with completions to WRs David Wallis, Beau Corrales, Javon Baker and Ja'Lynn Polk. Joe Milton was 1/4." Doug Kyed Writes Well, someone is lying here
Yeah Milton has all the talent but if you watch his games hes probably the most frustrating QB in history its 4 and out 4 and out 3 and int then like 80 yard td then fumble field goal drive
@@YankeeVatnik1917 he doesn’t have all the talent he just got a big rocket arm that’s not accurate and he is abysmal in short yard, over the middle , and check down throws
Every analyst covering the Patriots: Drake Maye was very accurate. Only had a few misplaced throws. Joe Milton missed quite a few throws. He needs to work on accuracy. Tom Curran: JOE MILTON WAS MORE ACCURATE THAN DRAKE MAYE. MAYE IS SO ROBOTIC AND DOESNT HAVE A STRONG ARM. I'm surprised he didn't throw in some scouting statistics of JJ McCarthy's rookie minicamp performance 🙄 Is this really how it's going to be the entire time Drake Maye is here?
Thats a leap calling people prejudice because someone has reservations go watch any Tennessee game seriously all the talent in the world but 60% of the times you want to punch the tv then greatest throw ever then int and second greatest throw ever safety. best season Passing yards: 2813 Touchdowns: 20 Fumbles Lost: 2 Interceptions: 5 Sacked: 16 Are you saying reality should be ignored almost every NCAA QB better stats he was statistically like 115 Is performance not a metric or is that racism?
And you say 5 ints thats not bad I think 4 were in the redzone. Thats bad buddy. Doesnt matter if you can throw it 100 yards if you cant read defenses. Peyton Manning last years he probably couldnt throw it 40 yrds after that knee surgery broke all time single season TD mark. People fall in love with arm strength but thats probably like 4th best thing a qb needs. Ryan Leaf, Jamarcis Russell,
Unbelievable how Tom E. Curran went from a pretty good Patriot reporter to being a dink about Drake Maye, Mayo and the team in general. Maybe he’s not getting preferential treatment from this new regime opposed to Belichick?
anyone who has watched Mayes film knows the patriots wated a pic on this guy. His skills suck dude they just do. Curran's job is to call them as he sees them.
I don’t know why, because in the AFC today you need a superstar maybe star quarterback, if you want to even think of contending with 15 in red. Or Lamar, burrow, Allen. Since 2020, those are the only quarterbacks to appear in the AFC championship game
That’s all we heard from Curran from March 1st to April 25th - Patriots should trade down - his minority opinion and he preached it incessantly. But, the media has nothing to do but nit pick and poke holes in the coaching and the draft picks. Meaningless bullshit
@@AndrewAddisonUniqueDrewski980 And going into the future, it’s gonna be hard to win in the AFC without a star quarterback . Which drake Maye has the potential to be. Unlike JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix
Sometimes I like Tom’s analysis but I don’t understand where he gets half this crap anymore . Now Milton is more accurate than Maye , if Milton was more accurate than Maye , he’d be a day 1 pick lol . Not knocking Milton but I’ve seen him play about a dozen times already . I genuinely don’t know how anybody could Joe Milton is a more accurate passer than any quarterback drafted in this entire class
@gamerthe192nd3 I was going to argue with you. But honestly arguing with somebody so closed minded that they are ready to count out a rookie quarterback before he even gets a chance isn't worth it
Curran has to remember too that every throw doesn’t need to be thrown with full velocity. Milton throws hard every throw Maye knows when to take some off.
@tyclark7953 I heard an evaluation of Milton that said " He throws with the velocity to hit an 85 yard post route, but he'll also throw with the same velocity to a WR running a slant. Which leads him to be terribly inaccurate on shorter throws.
There's a video of one of his games where he literally throws the ball 60 air yards for a touchdown without taking a hop. There's something wrong with Curran. I think he's just bitter because nobody liked his idea of trading the 3rd pick.
Felger and Tom should start a show called Negativity. Let’s hate everything the pats do because TB isn’t here anymore. We can’t have happiness unless we win 6 Super Bowls. Fuckin relax bud 😂
If it’s not opinions based in hindsight or plans not aligning with his personal wants, ole Tommy here will always rub me the wrong way. I only tolerate him (sometimes not) to get more news on my Patriots.
Packers went from Brett Favre to Aaron Rogers. Patriots went from Tom Brady to Drake Maye. Thank guys like this who might say but don't know. Maye came from baseball and will fix those small details. Btw, he's 21. Lol
They are not "Small details" He needs to fix EVERYTHING. Every QB skill is in need of serious fixes. Watch any game against a good team and you will see a player who has a LOT of work to do.
"Patriots rookie QB Drake Maye was 5/6 in a light speed 7-on-7 with completions to WRs David Wallis, Beau Corrales, Javon Baker and Ja'Lynn Polk. Joe Milton was 1/4." Doug Kyed You're just making stuff up as you go
Apparently Tom thinks the entire NFL is stupid as Milton appears to be the greatest qb that God ever created. Tommy is just too old, the world has past him by. Can we please put him out to pasture? For the love of God, NBC sports do something.
Remember Tom picked the Pats to win 11, lol, games last year. I didn't like Mac even after his first year....just thought he was average at best. Tommy Curran thought Mac was a top QB. Tom how can you watch this kid & say he has a little bit better arm than Mac. Its not close. I really don't know what you are watching.
Tom started showing his dementia with his love for Mac Jones. Can't believe he even said if Maye's arm is strong than Jones. Mac Jones has the weakest arm I've ever seen. He had no business being in the NFL. He rode Alabama to become a top pick. He literally has zero abilities that would qualify him to be an NFL qb.
As much as I agree on what we "should've done", we now gotta focus and work with what we got. Drake is still a phenomenal Qb and guy, so it's time to start changing the narrative.
If you don’t watch college ball Joe Milton looks like a first ballot hall of famer to you. But if you do you KNOW that if you need a ball thrown 80 yards Joe will throw it 80…. And if you need a ball thrown 20 yards Joe will throw it 80
I agree but Mayes problems are more diverse and might be harder to fix. 10% chance eather guy is still on the team at the end of their rookie contract.
Give the kid some time! If he had gone back to college he’d better the front runner for the #1 pick next season so I think we got a steal at 3! Just let him develop b4 judging him
I’ve never seen someone so unhappy having a possible superpower QB. Curran loved Mac the second he was drafted and then blamed him for everything when it when wrong. This new regime has already done more on the offense than Bill did for Mac in 3 the last years. How is that not something to be super positive hyped about
Key word possible. Very, very, very unlikely but possible maybe, we hope. The rest of the pics could be rly good but are high risks as well. Are they fast enough to get open?
I think Mayo for his first year coaching the class of players he picked with Wolfe was a B+ a hell of a lot better than Bill but to be fair to Bill he should have never been allowed to control everything he needed someone besides himself or the owners to keep him in check. That’s the owners fault. Let a coach be a coach and surround him with people he can trust to work with him when it is draft time or picking free agents at a reasonable price. I think mayo will be fine as a coach he shows great leadership skills plus he knows what it takes to be a winner and what it takes to get to the Super Bowl. We got to see him as a player and now we get to see him as a head coach. I wish Jerrod Mayo nothing but great success as a head coach.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THE SPEED, DECISION THROW MAKING, ACCURACY,AND FOOTWORK FOR PRESSURE FOR DRAKE MAYE AND JOE MILTON. JOSH ALLEN HAVE SPEED SO WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THEIR SPEED.
I think if they believe there's even a 30% chance Maye could be our franchise QB, they have to use that #3 pick on him. That Pats have no future until they have a decent QB. And you do not get many chances at drafting a potential franchise QB. If Pats are picking at #8 next year all the top QBs will probably be off the board. I think there's definitely enough evidence that Maye has real potential. I don't think they had any other choice but to go for it
Curran thinks Maye's arm is "above average"? Did he check if he was throwing with his left? Otherwise, Curran might need to check his eyesight. He has been a hater from the get.
Because he is big What about the way he has played would make you think that. I am the bigest homer myself but man the film does not support this level of optomism.
@gamerthe192nd3 well the film already suggested it before we drafted him, the athleticism, arm strength, and talent. everyone was impressed and wanted him but worried about him only having 2yrs of college to everyone else's 5, and being 21, so they wanted and took "the more ready now QB". During the two days of rookie minicamp we heard that everyone is gravitating towards him, Polk hyping him up, that's awesome, considering Milton is there, I thought Milton was going to steal the show, infact even I was more intrigued and interested seeing Milton bazooka throws.. but, but we haven't heard a peep about him and only saw a few throws but nothing really all that big like yea there's more zip but they didn't hype it or do any hype videos to entertain any thing, so clearly they're not seeing him as the guy or real competition. You know you see all these other rookie QBs hype videos, that's cool and all them fans can talk all that sht you want, but the fact is those QBs don't have another QB with a live arm like Milton's up their-ass competing right there next to them like Drake Maye does, think about that. When Polk, Baker, and Wallace gravitating towards Drake Maye saying he's the guy, that says it all.
@gamerthe192nd3 also they're already working on his foot work and two different stances on day one, when he was talking to the media it sounds like he's embracing it, doesnt sound like he's confused or having a hard time with it, he said its coming to him easy and that he's getting it. He's staying late to 9pm probably watching his own film and development as he goes. I wasn't expecting all that, I thought it was going to be a long process all season long. The narrative of being a big project doesn't seem like the case. At this rate and depending on how he looks in camp, joint practices, and during preseason, he might start week one. I'm just saying.
@tomcurran your bias against Drake Maye is showing - we get the Pats didn't trade down like you advised them however, don't hold that grudge all year or you risk becoming the next Dan Shaughnessy - bitter and crusty
everyone else were idiots urging Patriots to draft Maye. For anyone who was not lazy and watched full games instead of his highlights, the pick seams pretty poor. Most commentators were to lazy to watch full games and based on his highlights he looks like a future MVP. 4 years from now when we trade Maye for a bag of used footballs these same idiots will be telling everyone we should be drafting some other bumb.
Tom I disagree he was 5/6 milton was 1-4 in 7 on 7 but you sitting here a say drake wasn’t accurate get out your feelings the draft over we got Drake and not JJ ! Stop your crying and get back to reality if your gonna be a big baby and trashing Drake I’m a stop watching your pod and jus watch Taylor and phil 😊
Your right. We cant redoo the draft now. Just have to hope our coaches can teach this kid how to play QB. If they do it will be the most impresive coaching performance in nfl history.
I get downplaying Maye to keep the pressure and expectations off of him. It was the complete opposite with Mac , but i dont understand the hate. We were spoiled with Brady and those shoes will never be filled. Build around the 21 year old kid over the next year and we can make a push in '25 . Let Maye get the foundation built underneath him and he will be fine . If Drake was " trash " like some of these " experts " want you to think, no team would have wanted to trade up to #3 to get him and he wouldnt have been taken #3 . He has the intangibles and just needs to clean up his footwork, and mechanics. So much damn criticism when he hasnt even taken a snap yet . Yet when Mccorkile was here , everyone said he was the 2nd coming of Brady, smh.
Watch a compleat game where Maye played a decent team and see if you think that is all he has to fix. Spoiler alert it isn't. He was the slowest QB in all of division 1 football at getting through reads and getting rid of the ball. His field perception seams to be minimal. everything about being a qb needs to improve a lot.
@@gamerthe192nd3 kid is 21 years old . Obviously he has alot to work on . That's why you let him sit for a year and develop an offense around his strengths and surround him with good talent .
Tom, I’m a huge fan and have been for a while. But your hate towards Drake Maye is so strange and random. Your breaking down arm angles from the first rookie mini camp to say he won’t be good
Tom Brady coming out of the draft - Slow, not athletic, not a strong arm, too long a drop back stride, and he turned out to be the GOAT. Tom Curran - You have no idea what this kids going to be, none of us do!! We’ll just have to wait and see.
I feel like there was some mandate to let the reporters know how great their questions are. I mean..since day 1 of mayo. Yea...yea that's a great question(while his face is saying..I am so annoyed)
funny every other analyst had a different take on Mayes arm lol.. Tom needs a co-host to provide the fans with the facts lol.. Tom belongs with Whoopi on the View show..
In Tom's defense team was a 4 win team!!! Lets not actor like they are better...everyone said the same thing bout mac jones.. gotta wait to see what happens plus our division did have two playoff teams
Why is everyone knocking on Drake Maye? Is Tom still angry his boy Mac Jones got traded? Everyone knows that Drake has a monster arm hes just working on his mechanics, he literally has 10x more arm strength than Mac lol, of course it will.look robotic right now, hes working his mechanics lol, he already has the velocity so why work on that? lol. And I see some people comparing his college career to Miltons but how did Miltion look in his 2nd season at Drakes age? If Joe was going to develop he would of by now at his age. Plus Drake had a terrible oline and wr group in his 2nd season. Drakes first season he was top notch. If he spent another year in college he would of been the #1 overall pick. Give the kid a chance, hes super young for a rookie QB.
I like Joe Milton but he crumbles against the good teams and is Patrick Mahomes against like community colleges he has all the talent in the world. I think Mayo wanted Milton instead he's got that talent that makes you ignore his weaknesses and drives you insane like sam bradford he got like a 20 year next year hes mvp
You are very age da driven it appears w Maye. I had Josh Allen as the top QB in 2018 and Herbert in 2020 as the top QB . Said it in 2019. Just a few of my observations. Drake Maye will be a star in rhe NFL if the Patriots dont Tim Couch him like Cleveland did. You are obnoxious.
Give these draft choices a chance this talk negative about our picks is stupid look at these guys in college they were Studs Drake Maye the receivers watch out people who are saying we failed they are going to eat their words in time
Looking forward to Maye proving this clown wrong. The UNC QB coach who coached legend proven QB’s gave his honest opinion and believe he’ll be a stud. I’ll take his word over this clown
This "legendary QB coach" (who of coarse is going to pump up his player) was incapable of coaching him out of any of the laundry list of defects in his game. The idea that we can coach him up ignores the quality of his past coaches.
@@gamerthe192nd3 he’s coached plenty of big name QB’s and said maye possesses plenty of their traits. He got that title for a reason and won’t just vouch for anyone
You should of taken Penix jr. Best pocket passer with some mobility in the pocket this year!😊 Least amount of sacks with 150 more passing attempts than the so called top 4 QBs.
32 NFL teams passed on Joe Milton for 5 straight rounds for a reason. His arm talent is terrible. It will take years for him to get it right and he's already 24.
I guess Curran is just smarter than all the scouts and gms that work in the NFL. Is there any bigger clown in sports media than Tommy at this point? How does he still have a job? I guess they figure people come just to look at the trainwreck. They may be right.
you guys talk like you didn't see our whole stadium chanting for zappe. and your mad at curran cause what? he remebers context and thinks "happened once, why can't it happen twice?"
I think Maye tries to downplay what he needs to work on and needs to put that pride to the side and focus on listening to the coaches and what they're saying he needs to work on and put in the work. Never get to comfortable Milton can steal your job, and is trying to.
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Tom, tell us you wish they’d traded down without telling us you wished they’d traded down. Need Phil Perry to get on here and balance out Currans hate.
Did you hear him asking stupid questions to Maye 🤦♂️
@@maddenplaya2097I was so fuckin mad at that. You can even see on QB1 face that he didn't care for Curran. What does that say about TC
Curran seems to have lost his fastball when all the draft discussions- kept preaching trade down. That take got tired and now his reports are getting tired.
@@maddenplaya2097 and Mayo in the presser he was talking over another guys question too
@@michaellalli7693 He was right. If Maye works it will be the greatest coaching performance ever. He played like crap last year in every game against a good team. His skills are simply horrible. He was the slowest QB getting through reps and getting rid of the ball in all div 1 football last year. It also seams he has a below average field perception.
“Contrasting watching Tom Brady for 20 years”
Tom, respectfully are you out of your damn mind? It’s the kids 1st weekend as a rookie.
Tom wasn’t perfect out of the gate. He was very good but developed better skills as he was coached. Curran is like the kid who likes a grunge band that nobody has heard of so he can say I found them first!
You have Tom here trying to say Milton looks better than Maye😂 he’s a first rounder for a reason.
So Evan Lazar posted about the minicamp and said basically Maye wasn't throwing with near his full velocity because the coaches wanted him to slow down his process so he could concentrate on footwork, turning his hips and throwing motion etc. You don't correct fundamentals by ripping it every throw. Even still, Maye hit every part of the field.
On the other hand, he said Milton rips every pass and completed 1 for 5 on 7 on 7's because he seems unable to ease off.
Curren is sadly becoming another Felger.
Have to agree with you
Curran's a poor mans Paul Perillo...just another negative nancy!!!
I was literally coming to say this. And Maye was 5/6 in passes completed…. At this point I’m only subscribed to the channel because of Perry. I’m close to leaving this channel cuz of Curran
Evan Lazar? The same Evan Lazar that told the fans they didn't know what they were talking about when they criticized Mac Jones in 2022? Evan Lazar is a hack that latches onto whatever he's told is popular.
Way to be optimistic dude, holy shit. All you do is hate
Thats why Phil, Taylor, Evan, Alex and the original Pats podcast crew are the best for real takes
@@maddenplaya2097 I dont think hating on a guy he clearly wasnt a fan of during the draft, makes them the best. it makes him very biased. I think we have had enough of the pessimistic takes about this team the last few years between this and all over the radio every day
@@brandon2590 He was talking about the other people, not Tom.
@@wigginingeneral ahhh, my bad. still stand by the second part of what i said though
@@maddenplaya2097Evan is the guy who still can't accept he is wrong a about Brock Purdy though
It's the kids first day his head is probably all over the place trying to learn everything they throw at him. Way to over analyze the kids day of practice Curran🤦🏽♂️
Exactly! The kid's 21 it's his first days and Curran's picking on him like a seasoned veteran after the post season....way to welcome the first pick Tom
"Patriots rookie QB Drake Maye was 5/6 in a light speed 7-on-7 with completions to WRs David Wallis, Beau Corrales, Javon Baker and Ja'Lynn Polk. Joe Milton was 1/4."
Doug Kyed Writes
Well, someone is lying here
Yeah Milton has all the talent but if you watch his games hes probably the most frustrating QB in history its 4 and out 4 and out 3 and int then like 80 yard td then fumble field goal drive
Tom is a loser
@@YankeeVatnik1917 he doesn’t have all the talent he just got a big rocket arm that’s not accurate and he is abysmal in short yard, over the middle , and check down throws
@@treyspiller6177 physical talent is what I meant. They fall in love with a big are but peyton Manning last few years may 40 yards max and smoked it
Drake maye 5/6, 7 on 7
Joe milton lll 1/4 7 on 7
Wth is tom talking about 😂
Every analyst covering the Patriots: Drake Maye was very accurate. Only had a few misplaced throws. Joe Milton missed quite a few throws. He needs to work on accuracy.
Tom Curran: JOE MILTON WAS MORE ACCURATE THAN DRAKE MAYE. MAYE IS SO ROBOTIC AND DOESNT HAVE A STRONG ARM.
I'm surprised he didn't throw in some scouting statistics of JJ McCarthy's rookie minicamp performance 🙄 Is this really how it's going to be the entire time Drake Maye is here?
th-cam.com/video/2xwIlw6rZKQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=91v4DCq7QQLGCMto yeah really horrible arm lol
He's big hating
Tom you have a prejudice against this kid I wasn't there seriously there's something wrong with you
Thats a leap calling people prejudice because someone has reservations go watch any Tennessee game seriously all the talent in the world but 60% of the times you want to punch the tv then greatest throw ever then int and second greatest throw ever safety. best season Passing yards: 2813
Touchdowns: 20
Fumbles Lost: 2
Interceptions: 5
Sacked: 16
Are you saying reality should be ignored almost every NCAA QB better stats he was statistically like 115 Is performance not a metric or is that racism?
And you say 5 ints thats not bad I think 4 were in the redzone. Thats bad buddy. Doesnt matter if you can throw it 100 yards if you cant read defenses. Peyton Manning last years he probably couldnt throw it 40 yrds after that knee surgery broke all time single season TD mark. People fall in love with arm strength but thats probably like 4th best thing a qb needs. Ryan Leaf, Jamarcis Russell,
@@YankeeVatnik1917Tom is prejudice. You're mad because someone is calling the facts on Tom? Drake Maye outperformed Milton way better.
Or he is right
@@gamerthe192nd3 No he is not right. You are flat out wrong. Please stop trolling.
Unbelievable how Tom E. Curran went from a pretty good Patriot reporter to being a dink about Drake Maye, Mayo and the team in general. Maybe he’s not getting preferential treatment from this new regime opposed to Belichick?
anyone who has watched Mayes film knows the patriots wated a pic on this guy. His skills suck dude they just do. Curran's job is to call them as he sees them.
tom is still angry because they didnt trade pick
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I don’t know why, because in the AFC today you need a superstar maybe star quarterback, if you want to even think of contending with 15 in red. Or Lamar, burrow, Allen. Since 2020, those are the only quarterbacks to appear in the AFC championship game
That’s all we heard from Curran from March 1st to April 25th - Patriots should trade down - his minority opinion and he preached it incessantly. But, the media has nothing to do but nit pick and poke holes in the coaching and the draft picks. Meaningless bullshit
@@Mptappin12We are not talking about them, we are talking about the present, going right into the future.
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And going into the future, it’s gonna be hard to win in the AFC without a star quarterback . Which drake Maye has the potential to be. Unlike JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix
It’s May. Maye’s first practice EVER. Brady didn’t really play until his second year and was saddled with ZERO expectations.
Where the hell is the Senator Phil Perry???
Tom always lowkey been a hater 😂
Highkey bro. if it were up to him, we’d start Zappe this year
As a Commanders fan I'm jealous. Your GM ran to the podium. Drake's pro day was elite. This guy is a lawyer in the courtroom spilling nonsense.
Sometimes I like Tom’s analysis but I don’t understand where he gets half this crap anymore . Now Milton is more accurate than Maye , if Milton was more accurate than Maye , he’d be a day 1 pick lol . Not knocking Milton but I’ve seen him play about a dozen times already . I genuinely don’t know how anybody could Joe Milton is a more accurate passer than any quarterback drafted in this entire class
What’s crazy @everyone i seen a report on Twitter that Drake went 6-7 on 7v7 and Milton went 1-4 ……
@@HTTR.Redskins As a Commanders fan IM NOT
The amount of people complaining about maye before he even gets a chance is crazy, this is why everybody hates patriots fans
Or maybe they watched the tape of any full game he played against a good team last year.
@gamerthe192nd3 I was going to argue with you. But honestly arguing with somebody so closed minded that they are ready to count out a rookie quarterback before he even gets a chance isn't worth it
Kinda feel like we’re downplaying Maye’s arm strength here he’s got a big arm it’s not Milton’s but it’s damn good
Curran has to remember too that every throw doesn’t need to be thrown with full velocity. Milton throws hard every throw Maye knows when to take some off.
@tyclark7953 I heard an evaluation of Milton that said " He throws with the velocity to hit an 85 yard post route, but he'll also throw with the same velocity to a WR running a slant. Which leads him to be terribly inaccurate on shorter throws.
@@keithwilbur2589 yea that’s the meme with Milton is if you need five yards he’ll throw it 80
There's a video of one of his games where he literally throws the ball 60 air yards for a touchdown without taking a hop. There's something wrong with Curran. I think he's just bitter because nobody liked his idea of trading the 3rd pick.
Yea bruh they can Suck it haters, Fuggin’ scrubs, Ballin’! Drake elite.
Now that wolf control the 53 man roster we in good hands 🫵🤜💯👍
Felger and Tom should start a show called Negativity. Let’s hate everything the pats do because TB isn’t here anymore. We can’t have happiness unless we win 6 Super Bowls. Fuckin relax bud 😂
FFS we are gonna have to listen to NFL media rattle on about Joe Milton all year ...
From idiots like this that spreads into clowns brains then they suddenly are the loud ones thinking Milton should start
Curran sounded devastated describing Mayes first practice. Lower expectations guys. Kids first practice
If it’s not opinions based in hindsight or plans not aligning with his personal wants, ole Tommy here will always rub me the wrong way. I only tolerate him (sometimes not) to get more news on my Patriots.
Absolutely correct assessment on Tom E Curran
Packers went from Brett Favre to Aaron Rogers. Patriots went from Tom Brady to Drake Maye. Thank guys like this who might say but don't know. Maye came from baseball and will fix those small details. Btw, he's 21. Lol
Baseball? He played football in college.
They are not "Small details" He needs to fix EVERYTHING. Every QB skill is in need of serious fixes. Watch any game against a good team and you will see a player who has a LOT of work to do.
You mean from Brady to Mac Jones. Lol. You replaced facts
Joe Milton definitely has a Canon for an arm, but I'm not ready to just anoint him the # guy after one day of rookie mini camp
His draft wishes Never came to fruition. Thank God.
Who’s to say the ones we draft won’t be busts, everyone is acting like the players we draft are automatically HOFs lol
@@Polski_Kiwithat's not what he said, he is saying Tom's a whiney b1tch because the actual experts with skin in the game chose guys he didn't
"Patriots rookie QB Drake Maye was 5/6 in a light speed 7-on-7 with completions to WRs David Wallis, Beau Corrales, Javon Baker and Ja'Lynn Polk. Joe Milton was 1/4."
Doug Kyed
You're just making stuff up as you go
Apparently Tom thinks the entire NFL is stupid as Milton appears to be the greatest qb that God ever created. Tommy is just too old, the world has past him by. Can we please put him out to pasture? For the love of God, NBC sports do something.
Same dude that thought Mac was winning 11 or 12 games last year lol
Not as accurate as milton?! What the fuck are you talking about tom?! He went 5/6 on 7v7 and milton went 1/4.. get the fuck outta here
Man stop the hate! All you do is hate on drake.
You can see Curran is just going to push this narrative against Maye all summer regardless how he does.
Imagine if you were this critical of Mac love this highly critical Tom E Curran.
Jeez dude stop hating
Tom, you need to stop hating on Drake.
Remember Tom picked the Pats to win 11, lol, games last year. I didn't like Mac even after his first year....just thought he was average at best. Tommy Curran thought Mac was a top QB. Tom how can you watch this kid & say he has a little bit better arm than Mac. Its not close. I really don't know what you are watching.
Tom started showing his dementia with his love for Mac Jones. Can't believe he even said if Maye's arm is strong than Jones. Mac Jones has the weakest arm I've ever seen. He had no business being in the NFL. He rode Alabama to become a top pick. He literally has zero abilities that would qualify him to be an NFL qb.
Whatever Curran saids, the opposite happens.
You said Milton was more accurate than Maye today. Milton was 1/6 in 7 on 7s. And Maye was 5/6.
This should be pinned to the top guys straight lying
As much as I agree on what we "should've done", we now gotta focus and work with what we got.
Drake is still a phenomenal Qb and guy, so it's time to start changing the narrative.
If you don’t watch college ball Joe Milton looks like a first ballot hall of famer to you. But if you do you KNOW that if you need a ball thrown 80 yards Joe will throw it 80…. And if you need a ball thrown 20 yards Joe will throw it 80
I agree but Mayes problems are more diverse and might be harder to fix. 10% chance eather guy is still on the team at the end of their rookie contract.
Give the kid some time! If he had gone back to college he’d better the front runner for the #1 pick next season so I think we got a steal at 3! Just let him develop b4 judging him
Aahh.....Curran slowly turning into Gerry Callahan, a bitter angry old man.
I’ve never seen someone so unhappy having a possible superpower QB. Curran loved Mac the second he was drafted and then blamed him for everything when it when wrong. This new regime has already done more on the offense than Bill did for Mac in 3 the last years. How is that not something to be super positive hyped about
Key word possible. Very, very, very unlikely but possible maybe, we hope. The rest of the pics could be rly good but are high risks as well. Are they fast enough to get open?
Your commentary and your opinions are not worth a grain of salt‼️‼️🗣️🗣️
I think Mayo for his first year coaching the class of players he picked with Wolfe was a B+ a hell of a lot better than Bill but to be fair to Bill he should have never been allowed to control everything he needed someone besides himself or the owners to keep him in check. That’s the owners fault. Let a coach be a coach and surround him with people he can trust to work with him when it is draft time or picking free agents at a reasonable price. I think mayo will be fine as a coach he shows great leadership skills plus he knows what it takes to be a winner and what it takes to get to the Super Bowl. We got to see him as a player and now we get to see him as a head coach. I wish Jerrod Mayo nothing but great success as a head coach.
I won’t be listening to Tom anymore. Hopefully his viewership will decline to point they cancel his show.
This is a young man’s game . He needs to realize that lol
THE MOST IMPORTANT THE SPEED, DECISION THROW MAKING, ACCURACY,AND FOOTWORK FOR PRESSURE FOR DRAKE MAYE AND JOE MILTON. JOSH ALLEN HAVE SPEED SO WE HAVE TO UPGRADE THEIR SPEED.
Tom’s right. This is clearly an unmitigated disaster after [checks notes] 48 hours. 🙄
We get it, you still wish they traded down for JJ. Good Gawddd, it's just first practice
I think if they believe there's even a 30% chance Maye could be our franchise QB, they have to use that #3 pick on him. That Pats have no future until they have a decent QB. And you do not get many chances at drafting a potential franchise QB. If Pats are picking at #8 next year all the top QBs will probably be off the board. I think there's definitely enough evidence that Maye has real potential. I don't think they had any other choice but to go for it
"throwing like a weirdo" 😭😂😂 longshots
Keep it up Tom! Stop listening to the squishes. Keep it harsh and factual
Joe Milton is gonna shine come the time the whole team is there. Just watch
He was 1 of 5 don't listen to bum curren smh lol maye was 5/6
Joe Milton isn't it.
Curran thinks Maye's arm is "above average"? Did he check if he was throwing with his left? Otherwise, Curran might need to check his eyesight. He has been a hater from the get.
Camps and all are great, but its game situation that matters. Cam Newton had a strong arm but he couldnt hit the broad side of the barn during a game
Suck it haters, Fuggin’ scrubs, Ballin’! Drake elite.
TC has passed his prime
Drake maye is going to so frigging awesome 🔥
Because he is big What about the way he has played would make you think that. I am the bigest homer myself but man the film does not support this level of optomism.
@gamerthe192nd3 well the film already suggested it before we drafted him, the athleticism, arm strength, and talent. everyone was impressed and wanted him but worried about him only having 2yrs of college to everyone else's 5, and being 21, so they wanted and took "the more ready now QB".
During the two days of rookie minicamp we heard that everyone is gravitating towards him, Polk hyping him up, that's awesome, considering Milton is there, I thought Milton was going to steal the show, infact even I was more intrigued and interested seeing Milton bazooka throws.. but, but we haven't heard a peep about him and only saw a few throws but nothing really all that big like yea there's more zip but they didn't hype it or do any hype videos to entertain any thing, so clearly they're not seeing him as the guy or real competition. You know you see all these other rookie QBs hype videos, that's cool and all them fans can talk all that sht you want, but the fact is those QBs don't have another QB with a live arm like Milton's up their-ass competing right there next to them like Drake Maye does, think about that. When Polk, Baker, and Wallace gravitating towards Drake Maye saying he's the guy, that says it all.
@gamerthe192nd3 also they're already working on his foot work and two different stances on day one, when he was talking to the media it sounds like he's embracing it, doesnt sound like he's confused or having a hard time with it, he said its coming to him easy and that he's getting it. He's staying late to 9pm probably watching his own film and development as he goes. I wasn't expecting all that, I thought it was going to be a long process all season long. The narrative of being a big project doesn't seem like the case. At this rate and depending on how he looks in camp, joint practices, and during preseason, he might start week one. I'm just saying.
I’ve never seen this universal TH-cam comments on a video ever. Wow!
This guy is not a patriots Fan, he doesn't like Drake, he want them to trade down.
@tomcurran your bias against Drake Maye is showing - we get the Pats didn't trade down like you advised them however, don't hold that grudge all year or you risk becoming the next Dan Shaughnessy - bitter and crusty
It’s hilarious that Curren can watch the same practice as everyone else and see something completely differently
everyone else were idiots urging Patriots to draft Maye. For anyone who was not lazy and watched full games instead of his highlights, the pick seams pretty poor. Most commentators were to lazy to watch full games and based on his highlights he looks like a future MVP. 4 years from now when we trade Maye for a bag of used footballs these same idiots will be telling everyone we should be drafting some other bumb.
@@gamerthe192nd3 it’s pretty obvious you did not watch full games
This was stupid. Tom’s usually a good Patriots reporter but his awkward bs questions during the q&a and comments after were cringy.
Tom I disagree he was 5/6 milton was 1-4 in 7 on 7 but you sitting here a say drake wasn’t accurate get out your feelings the draft over we got Drake and not JJ ! Stop your crying and get back to reality if your gonna be a big baby and trashing Drake I’m a stop watching your pod and jus watch Taylor and phil 😊
Your right. We cant redoo the draft now. Just have to hope our coaches can teach this kid how to play QB. If they do it will be the most impresive coaching performance in nfl history.
Tom would hate still mad it’s not JJ
Curran hating on another number 10 QB. Don’t make him another Jones, stop hating on our rookie QB.
Let’s goooo drake
Tom, are you sure you went to the Patriots rookie camp? Everyone else in the news said the opposite of what you said SMH.
I get downplaying Maye to keep the pressure and expectations off of him. It was the complete opposite with Mac , but i dont understand the hate. We were spoiled with Brady and those shoes will never be filled. Build around the 21 year old kid over the next year and we can make a push in '25 . Let Maye get the foundation built underneath him and he will be fine . If Drake was " trash " like some of these " experts " want you to think, no team would have wanted to trade up to #3 to get him and he wouldnt have been taken #3 . He has the intangibles and just needs to clean up his footwork, and mechanics. So much damn criticism when he hasnt even taken a snap yet . Yet when Mccorkile was here , everyone said he was the 2nd coming of Brady, smh.
Watch a compleat game where Maye played a decent team and see if you think that is all he has to fix. Spoiler alert it isn't. He was the slowest QB in all of division 1 football at getting through reads and getting rid of the ball. His field perception seams to be minimal. everything about being a qb needs to improve a lot.
@@gamerthe192nd3 kid is 21 years old . Obviously he has alot to work on . That's why you let him sit for a year and develop an offense around his strengths and surround him with good talent .
Tom, I’m a huge fan and have been for a while. But your hate towards Drake Maye is so strange and random. Your breaking down arm angles from the first rookie mini camp to say he won’t be good
Give him time, he's only 21.
Was Brady’s release always perfect his rookie year? Can we just not let the kid get through a year or two
Maye winds up like he's throwing a javelin. But let's make excuses because where we told he's awesome.
All I had to do was read the comments to know not to watch this video and Tom Curran's negativity.
Tom Brady coming out of the draft - Slow, not athletic, not a strong arm, too long a drop back stride, and he turned out to be the GOAT.
Tom Curran - You have no idea what this kids going to be, none of us do!! We’ll just have to wait and see.
Joe Mitlon missed almost every throw in 7 v 7 dawg what are we doing here.
I feel like there was some mandate to let the reporters know how great their questions are. I mean..since day 1 of mayo. Yea...yea that's a great question(while his face is saying..I am so annoyed)
We have to believe 👍💯🤜🫵
funny every other analyst had a different take on Mayes arm lol.. Tom needs a co-host to provide the fans with the facts lol.. Tom belongs with Whoopi on the View show..
It maybe time for Tom to retire. Replace him with Evan and Alex. They’re more knowledgeable. Tom is talking Joe Milton. Please…
Polk looks slow as shit.. dude gets zero separation in college.. idk bout him.. could have got Jermaine Burton or Troy Franklin
Steve Smith Sr proved otherwise in his video analysis, you are talking rubbish armchair nobody
In Tom's defense team was a 4 win team!!! Lets not actor like they are better...everyone said the same thing bout mac jones.. gotta wait to see what happens plus our division did have two playoff teams
Why is everyone knocking on Drake Maye? Is Tom still angry his boy Mac Jones got traded? Everyone knows that Drake has a monster arm hes just working on his mechanics, he literally has 10x more arm strength than Mac lol, of course it will.look robotic right now, hes working his mechanics lol, he already has the velocity so why work on that? lol. And I see some people comparing his college career to Miltons but how did Miltion look in his 2nd season at Drakes age? If Joe was going to develop he would of by now at his age. Plus Drake had a terrible oline and wr group in his 2nd season. Drakes first season he was top notch. If he spent another year in college he would of been the #1 overall pick. Give the kid a chance, hes super young for a rookie QB.
he also is absolutely horrible at playing qb
The kids 21 year's old, needs time to work on and hone his skills.
These new England reporters are all really starting to sound the same, salty AF.
My prediction is Maye's first start will be week 3
If it is week 3 2025 ok. If not the search for our next overhyped Qb prospect starts early
Omg dude you're so freaking obvious. Stop trying to fabricate a story
Been telling ya'll milton gonna apply pressure
I like Joe Milton but he crumbles against the good teams and is Patrick Mahomes against like community colleges he has all the talent in the world. I think Mayo wanted Milton instead he's got that talent that makes you ignore his weaknesses and drives you insane like sam bradford he got like a 20 year next year hes mvp
Is Milton going to pull a Brady on Maye?
You are very age da driven it appears w Maye. I had Josh Allen as the top QB in 2018 and Herbert in 2020 as the top QB . Said it in 2019. Just a few of my observations. Drake Maye will be a star in rhe NFL if the Patriots dont Tim Couch him like Cleveland did. You are obnoxious.
Give these draft choices a chance this talk negative about our picks is stupid look at these guys in college they were Studs Drake Maye the receivers watch out people who are saying we failed they are going to eat their words in time
Read Evan’s take on weekend training and ignore this podcast which is awful.
I was coming here to say the same thing. Sadly, Tom has just turned into an angry old man. I don't know how Phil Perry deals with him.
I think Phil barely puts up with his antics. I see his frustration.
Pats are already regretting not drafting JJ
This dude is foul.
Joe Milton will never play starting qb in the NFL. What are you even talking about
Joe Milton looked better, it's okay to say that
Looking forward to Maye proving this clown wrong. The UNC QB coach who coached legend proven QB’s gave his honest opinion and believe he’ll be a stud. I’ll take his word over this clown
This "legendary QB coach" (who of coarse is going to pump up his player) was incapable of coaching him out of any of the laundry list of defects in his game. The idea that we can coach him up ignores the quality of his past coaches.
@@gamerthe192nd3 he’s coached plenty of big name QB’s and said maye possesses plenty of their traits. He got that title for a reason and won’t just vouch for anyone
Drake Maye is a taller Zach Wilson.
Tom QB Comp already.
Tom , I'm sorry you really don't know much about QBing...he sounds ridiculous with his takes on arm strength.
Tom loved Mac Jones even at the end. That's all anyone needs to know. Someone might want to alert Tom's doctor. They may want to run some tests.
Pats missed out on the best QB -McCarthy . Too bad they can't tell.
You should of taken Penix jr. Best pocket passer with some mobility in the pocket this year!😊 Least amount of sacks with 150 more passing attempts than the so called top 4 QBs.
i wonder how he is going to act if maye actually turns out good
not likely but if it happens he will adjust
@@gamerthe192nd3 way to be optimistic.
Obviously we're winning 5 straight super bowls.
Just come out and say it. Tom, you wish Joe Milton would be the starting QB.
32 NFL teams passed on Joe Milton for 5 straight rounds for a reason. His arm talent is terrible. It will take years for him to get it right and he's already 24.
I guess Curran is just smarter than all the scouts and gms that work in the NFL. Is there any bigger clown in sports media than Tommy at this point? How does he still have a job? I guess they figure people come just to look at the trainwreck. They may be right.
Stupid. Same shit happened to Brady. These teams and executives aren't geniuses, they get shit wrong all the time
you guys talk like you didn't see our whole stadium chanting for zappe.
and your mad at curran cause what? he remebers context and thinks "happened once, why can't it happen twice?"
I think Maye tries to downplay what he needs to work on and needs to put that pride to the side and focus on listening to the coaches and what they're saying he needs to work on and put in the work. Never get to comfortable Milton can steal your job, and is trying to.