honestly dude for me its more than enough got a 4k 120hz screen play a lot at 1440p and 4k and its often always over 120 on 1440p so I dont care about 3d having extra frames past that. I also play mostly single player gpu intensive not competitive games so yeah. I still think even if you play competitive at 1080p and 1440p you still have great peformance. This is with a 4070ti by the way
I own 5800X and will get another 5000 series cpu to populate my B350 motherboard. I was considering upgrading to 5800X3D but I would be much better getting 5900X for similar price or just another 5800X that is more than 30% cheaper in UK than 5800X3D. Results are game dependent and both 5800 cpus are trading blows. I do like higher 0.1 lows of 5800X3D and it’s been proved that it can handle stronger GPU if you are gaming mainly. I do enjoy my 5800X on daily basis and this cpu is far from being outdated. 5800X3D is a cherry on top of AM4 cake, great end of platform cpu.
I bought a 5800x in June. I’m dumb. Started reading about manually overclocking , and setting curve , and how I have to check all my cores and identify the best ones and bla bla. And it was like , holy shit . I just wet to get better performance. I can’t believe that there isn’t a simpler , more user friendly way to do this in 2022. I went into the bios. Activated PBO Set to motherboard limits and +200. Literally the same experience. Those games where I was getting 86% GPU usage Where still getting 86% GPU usage Bought a 5800X3D. Bacause based on al the benchmarks , it’s the fastest gaming processor for the am4 platform. And bam, 99% GPU usage. The actual avg fps increase I see is usually between 13-19 more , wich is quite good. But watching my GPU get 99% usage would have been enough of a justification, even if the actual performance gain was only 6-8 fps. Spending. Early 2k on a GPU and not getting to fully use it , even at 4k Was getting on my nerves 😂. Totally worth it.
I just bought a 5950x for around 400 bucks and would like you to validate my purchase. XD great content. 5800x3d is great for people who just want tinkering/performance ratio to be decent!
You probably don’t have VR, but the 5800x3D does wonders for it. Especially for SkyrimVR. Can’t find any results for even base Skyrim SE with this chip when looking around. Would be interested in the results though considering how the modding community is still as active as ever.
If you have a BIOS setting saved on a USB flash you can load the settings from your previous CPU and it will have the PBO and curve optimiser OC along with the boost override lol
Textures and assets aren't stored in CPU caches, those are multiple GBs in size and are stored in VRAM. Processed instructions are stored in CPU cache and the CPUs gain speed by not having to redo calculations they've purged and just can pull them back up.
I'd like to see 5900x vs 12700k for streaming on single PC. I've seen some evidence 12th gen streams far better than anything previous because of proper allocation to the ecores.
I think this video warrants another run, this time you need to test out frametimes! Let me explain, framerates may not be that different but game frametimes will be, the extra L3 cache is going to make a world of a difference in reducing in game stutters because the extra cache will allow the CPU to load textures 3-4 times faster, this will basically eliminate shader cache stutters
I have a 5800x not planning on upgrading anytime soon stoked to see how the 3d matched up against intels new CPUs and I’ll find out wich way I’ll go next
Here a year later just bought a 7800xt and the 5800x is not doing the job while pared with it. Mostly in warzone . Just bought the 5800x3d used on Amazon sold and shipped by Amazon for $280 and stoked to try it out it’s still up there with the best
@@gunslinga7077 I know you're unlikely to see this, but any update on if the cpu upgrade was worth it? I'm essentially in the same boat you were a few months ago
So this CPU is the best upgrade for people satisfied with Ryzen for day-to-day tasks, but want more gaming perfomance, or less constraints on graphics in general. Even from a R3 to R7 of the 3000 generation (Zen 2) this CPU is a great upgrade for such cases. And it gets even better if you want to undervolt and underclock your RAM to run super stable, as lowering RAM speed does not lower performance with this chip. But, it is a VERY NICHE product in my opinion.
Thanks for the super useful and informative videos as usual. There’s a reason I’m subscribed to you, Level1techs, moors law and not jayztwocents or LTT with their endless pointless content with no information. I don’t get why they didn’t make a 5950x3D, that probably would have applied to more then just gamers. I see no reason to down grade from my 5950x.
A 5950x3D would be WAY HOTTER, plus it would have two core complexes, negating some of the gains of the 3D cache with one complex. Having some knowledge on the field, I understand why they only created this CPU. If you already have 5000 series CPUs, 5800X3D is definitely not an upgrade. It is meant for gaming-centered upgrades for owners of previous generations. No new mobo or RAM needed. Hell, throw some potato RAM with that thing, undervolt and/or undeclock RAM, if it isn't potato, just for guaranteed long-term stability, buy a beast GPU, and this CPU will easily unleash it. But that's it. If you are still not satisfied with current gen, wait for next gen, and practically build a new PC from scatch.
@@Roob79 Are you going through comments with your copy paste reply for fun? The 5900 and 5950 don't have the same single core clocks as the 5800 or each other. Plenty of people want to see it, whether you think it's "boring" or not.
Indeed. And yes games to utilize way more cores now, forcing some games to DX12 helps too. I tried SMT on/off on my 5900X and the difference is there and it's pretty big. Games running on DX12 prefers SMT on. So saying that more cores does not manifest in better performance is not entirely true. Also frequencies 5900X can reach on separate cores are different than 5800X.
@@DenvarShay i had my 5800x running with 5,05 Ghz Boost (just some clicks in the Bios and every 5800x will do this), in Warzone the difference is 40 FPS avg to 5800x3D (also tweaked), if this will help you.
I'm looking to see how much the 5800x3d improves Dayz because it's about the only game i play. I'm using a 5600x paired with a 6700xt but with a tune on the memory but I still get a good bit of stutters
use the 5800x oc with pbo you will get better gaming performance doing it that way instead of just doing an all core oc my chip is running 4.9ghz pbo and curve optimizer -10 and boy is there performance great
Could you put it Cities Skylines next, please? Thanks. It's so hard to find this game being included in a benchmark. I mainly play Cities Skylines, Nioh2, WRC 10, and FIFA 22. And currently my rig is a mixture of R5 3600 (OC'd to 4.3 GHz, 1.3V), RX 6600 XT, and 4x TridentZ 3200 MHz (OC'd to 3333 MHz) CL16. In the time when I'm not playing games, I do some vector, photo, and video editings for a living (graphic designer). I'm considering either 5700G, 5700X, 5800X, 5800X3D, and 5900X as options for my final AM4 CPU. By the way, your speaking volume is way too low.
With the 7700x just announced @5.4GHz and 3D down the line that's going to be bonkers 💀intel Only issue i see is that they will run HOT, the chips are getting too small to be able to transfer the heat they make. They even coated the silicon itself with gold to help move heat. Only thing i can think of next is fusing diamond dust in between the silicon and heat spreader, or maybe jumping to a hollow phase change heat spreader like you see on GPUs. Wonder if that's why the heat spreaders look kind of chunky on Ryzen 7000 chips.
Just can't pull the trigger on my 3600, with a 3070, 3600mhz ram 32gb. Warzone mainly. Just really don't think the price to performance is there to justify an upgrade. Better off getting a 6950 xt for 799 on Amazon. Thoughts?
Depends on your monitor. If you are at 1080p upgrade to 1440p its 2022 come on. If you are at 1440p hell no there will be 0 difference as at higher resolutions CPUs dont make a noticeable difference. About GPUs, 4000 series just came out, RDNA 3 comes out early next month. You would be nuts to buy a new GPU any time soon wait for price adjustments.
i personally disagree with your conclusion, 5800x or higher -> 5800x3d IF -> single player games i mean you tested singleplayer games on low settings at 720/1080p? 99% of people doesnt play singleplayer games on settings like these, it is borderline synthetic benchmark. And basing your opinion on that test for actual real use cases is just silly as it will be very different story. Also the lack of test samples doesnt help either. Anyways enjoyed the vid but i personally disagree with that conclusion
Thats a nice upgrade for people who already own an amd platform, but if you were to build a new one this is obsolete, vs intel it wins some and loses some in gaming benchmarks while being stomped on everything else
Having a 2700X on a Crosshair VIII Formula with 4x16GB GSkill 3600 CL16 I have a hard time deciding: 5800X and OC the duck out of it with custom cooling or 5800X3D and leave it stock. Or should I go for 5900X or 5950X? Single player gaming most of the time, some multiplayer racing/flying on and off. EDIT: 6048x1200 for simulations, 1920x1200 for everything else, best visual settings at all cost regardless the title.
i have gone from an oc 2700x (on x470 mobo, 6700xt gpu, 3200mhz ram, noctua d15 cooler) to a 5800x oc.. i can say, having tuned the 2700x and gpu to their absolute limits and getting numerous top 3 benchmark scores for that cpu / gpu on 3dmark database etc, after swapping the cpu out for a 5800x and spending a ridiculous amount of time overclocking / tuning the cpu, i can say, that things are a little smoother when using vr with the cpu swap, but otherwise, desktop / games are generally only about 3 - 8 fps better (i`m usually rendering at 4k or 5k using super resolution to upscale to 8k), despite the cpu speed hike from 4300mhz all core oc (2700x) to 4900mhz all core oc(5900x) and increasing fabric mhz and ram speeds a bit upward.. for what it cost me, £200 for the 5800x, I didnt think it was worth the spend.. although, i am getting very very high benchmark performance on anything cpu related, it doesn`t translate to much improvement on the gpu / game side.. you might see better results than me because you`re rendering at 1920x1200 for games, but i doubt it would be a lot.. i dont regret upgrading really, but a better gpu would have actually made a bigger impact i think as the 2700x oc was never struggling or bottlenecking the gpu etc..
If you play call of duty then the smart thing is too get 5800x3d + high speed b die ram + overclock cpu. the lows & highs are too beautiful to ignore. or you can do what I’ve been thinking about and just get better ram. I have a 5900x with cl18 3600mhz. I overclocked the ram to 3800mhz & left the timings alone. upgrading to a 3070 from a 3060 definitely got my games running much smoother. but I know it can get even smoother with faster + low latency ram. or I can go overkill & go 5800x3d plus high speed bdie
I would be interested to see more content with single pc streaming configurations on the ryzen 5xxx cpus. Had me dying with the: Enjoy what you have, you probably suck anyway =)
I ordered 5800x3d and sell my 5600x, Is it enough my ram kit 16gb 3600mhz 16 19 19 19 39? or I will need to go with some dual rank 4sticks of better ram? any thoughts?
sir is it possible to lock X3D to static 4.7 or whatever to not flactuate becase i am wondering exactly for that between those two.. i mean to lock it to not boost up and down with freqyuencies
@@Roob79 it’ll be higher than the 5800x, the 5950x will boost cores higher individually than the 5800x will. I have both and the 5950x is a little bit better in games
@@jggg31 naw man, Atleast you got more SM’s and different memory layouts with the Nvidia cards. But the AMD one is legit identical, I ain’t paying for that
yet the avg consumer cant tell the difference, I beat just looking at all 3 side by side the OP couldn't tell the difference without the Onscreen Numbers lol Funny how that works haha
it depends on the game I play mostly 1440p and 4k gpu bound so difference is minimal but esports games or cpu intense games especially at 1080p the 3d will def be a nice boost
After finally figuring out my max OC for my 3090 Hybrid, I'm finally looking at PBO for my 5800x, and have kinda set it based on a few guides I've found. Would be cool to see a guide for PBO on here Jufes. I play Warzone/multi and and looking to bump my FPS (currently averaging ~200 @ 1440p). My 3090 is shunt modded and has the XC3 and Kingpin 1000w bios's (XC3 allows more pull than the 500w FTW3 XOC bios) so I'm temp limited at this point, which is fine
he would tell ya to turn pbo off and just set it to 4.7ghz n call it a day. thats what I do to at like 1.3 volts. mine stays below 55c while gaming. pbo blast way to much voltage that it doesn't need. he has said the same on a couple podcast
is 3600 bdie best for 5800x3d or is there 4000+ bdie? the affiliate link is for 3600mhz(bdie?) . i thought those vipers were like 4000mhz bdie. Are they not availabele anymore? I currently only have 4x8 3200 with a 3700x with an x570 asus hero viii and i was thinking of getting a last upgrade with the 5800x3d and buy some faster ram, thoughts jufes, anyone? i play wz and mmo's online
I upgraded from the r5 2600 to the 5800x. I'm just gonna be happy with what I got, cause it's miles better than what I had.
nice attitude !
what i think with my current gf :D
honestly dude for me its more than enough got a 4k 120hz screen play a lot at 1440p and 4k and its often always over 120 on 1440p so I dont care about 3d having extra frames past that. I also play mostly single player gpu intensive not competitive games so yeah. I still think even if you play competitive at 1080p and 1440p you still have great peformance. This is with a 4070ti by the way
Hey! Me, too!
I own 5800X and will get another 5000 series cpu to populate my B350 motherboard. I was considering upgrading to 5800X3D but I would be much better getting 5900X for similar price or just another 5800X that is more than 30% cheaper in UK than 5800X3D. Results are game dependent and both 5800 cpus are trading blows. I do like higher 0.1 lows of 5800X3D and it’s been proved that it can handle stronger GPU if you are gaming mainly. I do enjoy my 5800X on daily basis and this cpu is far from being outdated. 5800X3D is a cherry on top of AM4 cake, great end of platform cpu.
The call of duty results were insane with the overclocked x3d + bdie ram. I need that performance lol
I bought a 5800x in June.
I’m dumb. Started reading about manually overclocking , and setting curve , and how I have to check all my cores and identify the best ones and bla bla. And it was like , holy shit . I just wet to get better performance. I can’t believe that there isn’t a simpler , more user friendly way to do this in 2022.
I went into the bios.
Activated PBO
Set to motherboard limits and +200.
Literally the same experience.
Those games where I was getting 86% GPU usage
Where still getting 86% GPU usage
Bought a 5800X3D. Bacause based on al the benchmarks , it’s the fastest gaming processor for the am4 platform.
And bam, 99% GPU usage. The actual avg fps increase I see is usually between 13-19 more , wich is quite good.
But watching my GPU get 99% usage would have been enough of a justification, even if the actual performance gain was only 6-8 fps.
Spending. Early 2k on a GPU and not getting to fully use it , even at 4k
Was getting on my nerves 😂.
Totally worth it.
Love professional no bulshit straight to the point reviews
I just bought a 5950x for around 400 bucks and would like you to validate my purchase. XD great content. 5800x3d is great for people who just want tinkering/performance ratio to be decent!
This is exactly what ive been looking for since this release of this cpu! Thanks!
You probably don’t have VR, but the 5800x3D does wonders for it. Especially for SkyrimVR. Can’t find any results for even base Skyrim SE with this chip when looking around. Would be interested in the results though considering how the modding community is still as active as ever.
You’re the man Jufes. Keep up the progression
How did you overclock the 5800X3D? Once I upgraded, all of my OC and undervolting option were hidden.
If you have a BIOS setting saved on a USB flash you can load the settings from your previous CPU and it will have the PBO and curve optimiser OC along with the boost override lol
it would be nice to see a comparison with the 5900x and 5950x!
I am still waiting on this video frfr!
Textures and assets aren't stored in CPU caches, those are multiple GBs in size and are stored in VRAM. Processed instructions are stored in CPU cache and the CPUs gain speed by not having to redo calculations they've purged and just can pull them back up.
Hence why clock speeds don't matter so much
So whats importa t for warzone 2? 😅 i have 5800x3d + 3080ti ?
@@thomawthoma8127plus good ram + overclock
I thought the 5800X 3D couldn't not be OC-ed? That's what Steve said, the board partners were told to not to enable vcore or MP ?
Yes. this.
Curve optimizer ^^
Great breakdown again of specific use cases and upgrade paths Jufes
wouhou, what a great work, superb conclusions and vey wise advice. Thanks !
How did you oc the 5800x3d?
Instructions unclear, brought 12x red hammer mugs 🍺
I'd like to see 5900x vs 12700k for streaming on single PC. I've seen some evidence 12th gen streams far better than anything previous because of proper allocation to the ecores.
I think this video warrants another run, this time you need to test out frametimes! Let me explain, framerates may not be that different but game frametimes will be, the extra L3 cache is going to make a world of a difference in reducing in game stutters because the extra cache will allow the CPU to load textures 3-4 times faster, this will basically eliminate shader cache stutters
I have a 5800x not planning on upgrading anytime soon stoked to see how the 3d matched up against intels new CPUs and I’ll find out wich way I’ll go next
Here a year later just bought a 7800xt and the 5800x is not doing the job while pared with it. Mostly in warzone . Just bought the 5800x3d used on Amazon sold and shipped by Amazon for $280 and stoked to try it out it’s still up there with the best
@@gunslinga7077 I know you're unlikely to see this, but any update on if the cpu upgrade was worth it? I'm essentially in the same boat you were a few months ago
I thought the 5800x3d couldn't be overclocked due to the 3D V-cache
Damn, that's so cool. I love my 5800X3D. How in the world did you OC'it? I'd love to grab some more performance from mine. Any advice please?
About to install a 3D 5800.
Got my 5800x OCed to 4.95mhz
Sure hope to see that overclocking potential on the 3D, but I doubt it!
dude
you said it right here 7:15-7:36
you were right
5800x3d is faster than zen 4
Amazing video as always. Glad to be a supporter of your channel. Can’t wait for your review on the 4000 series gpus and raptorlake
Yep! Raptorlake will be very exciting. Esp. with DDR5 getting faster
According to AMD the 5800X3D is not overclockable so how did you do it?
CPU vs RAM is definitely game dependent. Thanks for the vid J.
Great content, next 5950x vs 5800x3D
Heh, that 5950X has pretty nice amount of cache on it also.
@@innocentiuslacrim2290 but it is split between two CCD's so most of the time game will only have access to 32mb same amount of 5800x
What would have been even better than a 5800X3D is a 5800X, with a 7, or even 6nm IO die that can hit 4400-5000MT/s in 1:1 mode like the 5600/5700G
The kid on the xbox comment was hilarious! 😂😂😂
Thank you for this! Money is tight and this is helpful
So this CPU is the best upgrade for people satisfied with Ryzen for day-to-day tasks, but want more gaming perfomance, or less constraints on graphics in general. Even from a R3 to R7 of the 3000 generation (Zen 2) this CPU is a great upgrade for such cases. And it gets even better if you want to undervolt and underclock your RAM to run super stable, as lowering RAM speed does not lower performance with this chip. But, it is a VERY NICHE product in my opinion.
Thanks for the super useful and informative videos as usual. There’s a reason I’m subscribed to you, Level1techs, moors law and not jayztwocents or LTT with their endless pointless content with no information. I don’t get why they didn’t make a 5950x3D, that probably would have applied to more then just gamers. I see no reason to down grade from my 5950x.
A 5950x3D would be WAY HOTTER, plus it would have two core complexes, negating some of the gains of the 3D cache with one complex. Having some knowledge on the field, I understand why they only created this CPU.
If you already have 5000 series CPUs, 5800X3D is definitely not an upgrade. It is meant for gaming-centered upgrades for owners of previous generations. No new mobo or RAM needed. Hell, throw some potato RAM with that thing, undervolt and/or undeclock RAM, if it isn't potato, just for guaranteed long-term stability, buy a beast GPU, and this CPU will easily unleash it. But that's it. If you are still not satisfied with current gen, wait for next gen, and practically build a new PC from scatch.
Is CL14 the lowest latency RAM available in DDR4 3600?
I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between the 5800X3D and 5900X or 5950X
Would be boring as no game is using the 12 or 16 cores, the result will be the same then as for 5800x
@@Roob79 you clearly don’t know anything about this game
@@Roob79 Are you going through comments with your copy paste reply for fun? The 5900 and 5950 don't have the same single core clocks as the 5800 or each other. Plenty of people want to see it, whether you think it's "boring" or not.
Indeed. And yes games to utilize way more cores now, forcing some games to DX12 helps too. I tried SMT on/off on my 5900X and the difference is there and it's pretty big. Games running on DX12 prefers SMT on. So saying that more cores does not manifest in better performance is not entirely true. Also frequencies 5900X can reach on separate cores are different than 5800X.
@@DenvarShay i had my 5800x running with 5,05 Ghz Boost (just some clicks in the Bios and every 5800x will do this), in Warzone the difference is 40 FPS avg to 5800x3D (also tweaked), if this will help you.
Good shit my guy, keep up the excellent work.
I'm looking to see how much the 5800x3d improves Dayz because it's about the only game i play. I'm using a 5600x paired with a 6700xt but with a tune on the memory but I still get a good bit of stutters
If your still looking i got stable 400 fps on 3440x1440 on low settings haha :D
use the 5800x oc with pbo you will get better gaming performance doing it that way instead of just doing an all core oc my chip is running 4.9ghz pbo and curve optimizer -10 and boy is there performance great
It still can't beat it. There is a PBO2 tuner software you can use for the 5800x3d that gets it better performance still with -20 all core
5800X3D vs 5950X vs 12900K when?
This was an excellent comparison having those 3 scenarios in there.
upgrading to this soon. Thinking im just going to leave it stock. Sure that tiny extra fps is nice, but naaaah.
Thanks jufes know I know my upgrade path. Thanks my man!
what videocard did you use in these tests?
Could you put it Cities Skylines next, please? Thanks. It's so hard to find this game being included in a benchmark.
I mainly play Cities Skylines, Nioh2, WRC 10, and FIFA 22. And currently my rig is a mixture of R5 3600 (OC'd to 4.3 GHz, 1.3V), RX 6600 XT, and 4x TridentZ 3200 MHz (OC'd to 3333 MHz) CL16.
In the time when I'm not playing games, I do some vector, photo, and video editings for a living (graphic designer).
I'm considering either 5700G, 5700X, 5800X, 5800X3D, and 5900X as options for my final AM4 CPU.
By the way, your speaking volume is way too low.
will 3600 cl14 be better than 4000 cl16 for wz?
Curious also
With the 7700x just announced @5.4GHz and 3D down the line that's going to be bonkers 💀intel
Only issue i see is that they will run HOT, the chips are getting too small to be able to transfer the heat they make. They even coated the silicon itself with gold to help move heat. Only thing i can think of next is fusing diamond dust in between the silicon and heat spreader, or maybe jumping to a hollow phase change heat spreader like you see on GPUs. Wonder if that's why the heat spreaders look kind of chunky on Ryzen 7000 chips.
Great video man! 🙌🏾
So 5800x3d 4.7 + 7900xt/x + SAM is the best upgrade for me at 2560x1080 144hz for years to come
Bro how can you say that Zen 4 is going to be slower than the 5800X3D! What about the IPC improvements?...
Could be true in games only but overall zen4 will be faster thats why im not upgrading to this x3d
which one is best bang for buck, for productivity type of work like 3D and graphics designer work?
I have a 5800x and 3080 ti and at 1440p I average 160 with 120 lows. Don't get how you always get this high with it.
do you oc? tweak the ram settings and fabric? if not then there ya go
Because he benched at 1080p ? Also everything he tests is OCed to hell lol.
Yes, overclock I have g.skill neo c18 I believe
Just can't pull the trigger on my 3600, with a 3070, 3600mhz ram 32gb. Warzone mainly. Just really don't think the price to performance is there to justify an upgrade. Better off getting a 6950 xt for 799 on Amazon. Thoughts?
Depends on your monitor. If you are at 1080p upgrade to 1440p its 2022 come on. If you are at 1440p hell no there will be 0 difference as at higher resolutions CPUs dont make a noticeable difference. About GPUs, 4000 series just came out, RDNA 3 comes out early next month. You would be nuts to buy a new GPU any time soon wait for price adjustments.
could you please specifiy at what resolution you were testing both cpu s ?
Does anyone have a tutorial on how to tune the 5800x3d identical to how he has in this video?
Great stuff, thank you
Man, Dick Mug is $30 CAD shipped to Langley! hehehehe
I really like your Black Flash shirt.
You overclocked the 5800x3d?
How did u manage to get 5800x3d 4.7mhz ?
Mine stays at 4.4 mhz max
i personally disagree with your conclusion,
5800x or higher -> 5800x3d IF -> single player games
i mean you tested singleplayer games on low settings at 720/1080p? 99% of people doesnt play singleplayer games on settings like these, it is borderline synthetic benchmark. And basing your opinion on that test for actual real use cases is just silly as it will be very different story. Also the lack of test samples doesnt help either. Anyways enjoyed the vid but i personally disagree with that conclusion
Thats a nice upgrade for people who already own an amd platform, but if you were to build a new one this is obsolete, vs intel it wins some and loses some in gaming benchmarks while being stomped on everything else
so i wanna go from 5800x to 5800x3d for mw3 multipalyer is it worth it ?
Having a 2700X on a Crosshair VIII Formula with 4x16GB GSkill 3600 CL16 I have a hard time deciding:
5800X and OC the duck out of it with custom cooling or 5800X3D and leave it stock. Or should I go for 5900X or 5950X?
Single player gaming most of the time, some multiplayer racing/flying on and off.
EDIT: 6048x1200 for simulations, 1920x1200 for everything else, best visual settings at all cost regardless the title.
i have gone from an oc 2700x (on x470 mobo, 6700xt gpu, 3200mhz ram, noctua d15 cooler) to a 5800x oc.. i can say, having tuned the 2700x and gpu to their absolute limits and getting numerous top 3 benchmark scores for that cpu / gpu on 3dmark database etc, after swapping the cpu out for a 5800x and spending a ridiculous amount of time overclocking / tuning the cpu, i can say, that things are a little smoother when using vr with the cpu swap, but otherwise, desktop / games are generally only about 3 - 8 fps better (i`m usually rendering at 4k or 5k using super resolution to upscale to 8k), despite the cpu speed hike from 4300mhz all core oc (2700x) to 4900mhz all core oc(5900x) and increasing fabric mhz and ram speeds a bit upward.. for what it cost me, £200 for the 5800x, I didnt think it was worth the spend.. although, i am getting very very high benchmark performance on anything cpu related, it doesn`t translate to much improvement on the gpu / game side.. you might see better results than me because you`re rendering at 1920x1200 for games, but i doubt it would be a lot.. i dont regret upgrading really, but a better gpu would have actually made a bigger impact i think as the 2700x oc was never struggling or bottlenecking the gpu etc..
If you play call of duty then the smart thing is too get 5800x3d + high speed b die ram + overclock cpu.
the lows & highs are too beautiful to ignore.
or you can do what I’ve been thinking about and just get better ram.
I have a 5900x with cl18 3600mhz.
I overclocked the ram to 3800mhz & left the timings alone.
upgrading to a 3070 from a 3060 definitely got my games running much smoother. but
I know it can get even smoother with faster + low latency ram.
or I can go overkill & go 5800x3d plus high speed bdie
@@silfrido1768I have 5800X3D with EVGA 3090 Ti FTW3 Black and G.Skill Samsung B-die 3600MHz CL16
Thank you Jufes
Ryzen 7 5800x, goes up to 4.850...Even in 5 GHz in some cases.
DDR4 3600 CL16 ó CL18 para el ryzen 7 5800x3d?
Do u had compared the 5900x against the 5800x3d?
Excellent data.
I would be interested to see more content with single pc streaming configurations on the ryzen 5xxx cpus.
Had me dying with the: Enjoy what you have, you probably suck anyway =)
5800x owner here. Pretty sure I'm in the last category... 😅
but what about versus a 5955XTXH+Super
its almost like when everyone is saying that one specific cpu is really good for gaming its not.... the x3d would cost me £100gbp more than the x.
You have to also consider what GPU to use.
Tnx..Warzone especially EATS ram.i gained 50fps with turning on the xmp only with my 3200 16gb ram😅
Think imma upgrade to 3600 or even 4000.
class vid!
Why the hell nobody test the 5800X B2 vs the 5800X3D!?!?
I ordered 5800x3d and sell my 5600x, Is it enough my ram kit 16gb 3600mhz 16 19 19 19 39? or I will need to go with some dual rank 4sticks of better ram? any thoughts?
Yes! 5950x vs 5800x3d!
sir is it possible to lock X3D to static 4.7 or whatever to not flactuate becase i am wondering exactly for that between those two.. i mean to lock it to not boost up and down with freqyuencies
Would love to see the 5800x3d vs the 5950x cause thats what i have
Will be no difference because no game ist using 16 cores, result in gaming will be the same as with 5800x.
@@Roob79 it’ll be higher than the 5800x, the 5950x will boost cores higher individually than the 5800x will. I have both and the 5950x is a little bit better in games
Wow I love this channel
hiw did you clock 5800x3d to 4.7?
Can you add some mmo games to your benchmark list and please also show the power usage and temps.
Quality as always 👌
how do you tune the 5800x3d to 4.7 ghz
6950 XT vs 6900XT vs 3090TI please
I’m not spending money on that thing, it’s the exact same card
@@FrameChasers Sad vibes
@@jggg31 no dude my XTXH 6900XT already does 2.8ghz and 17.5gbps memory, it’s the exact same card, lol
@@FrameChasers I just figured you might try since you did 3090 TI and 3090. Content you know? I understand you though. Keep up the awesome videos bro.
@@jggg31 naw man, Atleast you got more SM’s and different memory layouts with the Nvidia cards. But the AMD one is legit identical, I ain’t paying for that
But so, it's not true that the 5800x3d cannot be overclocked? What are the "good RAM" specs?
It cant....it will Always Break in Cinebench ..
You cant overclock it for More Power ..you only got higher Temperatures. ..
yet the avg consumer cant tell the difference, I beat just looking at all 3 side by side the OP couldn't tell the difference without the Onscreen Numbers lol Funny how that works haha
it depends on the game I play mostly 1440p and 4k gpu bound so difference is minimal but esports games or cpu intense games especially at 1080p the 3d will def be a nice boost
Nice fade on the sides, suites you well broski.
whats the gpu used for this test?
5900x vs x3d vs 12700k maybe? 400-450$ battle
so did you set a 4.7 all core oc and not pbo for the 5800x is that best for gaming in your opinion
I got mine at 4800 all core manual oc, i think it feels more stable in games then pbo
pls tell us how you got the bclk OC stable on the X3D
You need an x570 Crosshair VIII Extreme mobo
I do not own that board, lol
@@FrameChasers ok. but will you tell us or keep it hush hush to sell some overpriced consulting ;-)
That would be awesome if you could test single streaming Pc I am really curious. Because I am trying to build a system for gaming and streaming :)
After finally figuring out my max OC for my 3090 Hybrid, I'm finally looking at PBO for my 5800x, and have kinda set it based on a few guides I've found. Would be cool to see a guide for PBO on here Jufes. I play Warzone/multi and and looking to bump my FPS (currently averaging ~200 @ 1440p). My 3090 is shunt modded and has the XC3 and Kingpin 1000w bios's (XC3 allows more pull than the 500w FTW3 XOC bios) so I'm temp limited at this point, which is fine
he would tell ya to turn pbo off and just set it to 4.7ghz n call it a day. thats what I do to at like 1.3 volts. mine stays below 55c while gaming. pbo blast way to much voltage that it doesn't need. he has said the same on a couple podcast
Set you're worst cores to -30 and set the two best core to -25 through -27
I have a 4.8GHz All Core 5800x with 4000MHz/2000IF Ram 2 x 16GB 14-16-16-28 and it's been a dream!
any chance you play warzone and if you have seen an improvement in fps running a all core oc over pbo
Anyone else get unsubscribed from last video to this one
is 3600 bdie best for 5800x3d or is there 4000+ bdie? the affiliate link is for 3600mhz(bdie?) . i thought those vipers were like 4000mhz bdie. Are they not availabele anymore? I currently only have 4x8 3200 with a 3700x with an x570 asus hero viii and i was thinking of getting a last upgrade with the 5800x3d and buy some faster ram, thoughts jufes, anyone? i play wz and mmo's online
Voting videos FTW
yes its worth it, for Tarkov