We did Vogel so dirty giving him a team of old geezers and then expecting him to turn that into a competent defense. THEN firing him through a press conference and then giving the gm who did it an extension 😭
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
@@StoneCold2k57it’s so easy to combat this idiocy but I’m not gonna waste my time…all I’ll say is LeBron has the most game winners ever and has the most rings and FMVPs in the best era of ball despite his teams being underdogs in 7/10 finals
@@StoneCold2k57how many times did Jordan make it there only 6 why not more oh he wasn’t good enough to make it there & didn’t Bird sweep him twice in the playoffs what a shame that’s his daddy
I’m really starting to realize that a lot of folks in this community secretly know that Darvin Ham was ultimately not the problem. He was a scapegoat. And it’s clear from what we are seeing right now. The coach was not the issue. it was and still is the front office and the moves not being made to improve the team plain and simple
It’s both, the front office didn’t do a good enough job on the roster and then Darvin exacerbated the roster problems. His lineups were borderline outrageous
Trevor Lane can we get a long in depth video on how Jeanie Lakers owner needs to start showing her face soon and answer tough questions about her job . One championship in 14 going on 15 years while having a “GOAT” on your team for half of that time. What really needs to change?? This is the Legendary franchise Lakers right ? Are the right ppl in the right departments under your watch ? Is the ownership steering the ship in the right direction? Who is steering this ship ?
Darvin Ham did go to the Conference finals, then proceeded to bench key players starting in the playoffs, changed the lineups multiple times, showing favor to certain players, and effectively ruining his relationships with all the players. He lacked critical thinking and got out coached by damn near everyone he coached against. If that's worth an extension, you must be on something man.
Thank you😂😂😂😂 and his game management , this dude never knew when to call a timeout or make rotations when someone is playing bad 😂😂😂 dude would let teams go on runs without calling a timeout 😂😂😂 what a good coach he thinks he is
Exactly! Darvin was so bad in game he just let everything ride like he was just a spectator out there. He had a better healthier roster and the better version of Dlo to work with. JJ has had skeleton crews out there.
As a Laker fan, to attempt to give JJ credit for the same moves that Ham did is blasphemy. DLO being benched was the cause of him losing the locker room and what his role this year? Injuries still plague us and JJ is still given grace. The real issue is the roster. I don’t care who coaches this current team. It’s going to be same results period. Stop making coaches scapegoats it’s a bad look
@@franciscoperez6409 That makes no sense. Its both. He got fired because of his awful rotations (what he did) and got fired for not taking accountability (he didnt do). Ur acting like he was good at the things he did do. He was bad at everything no matter what he did or didnt do
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
Darvin is right. Lakers look for someone to blame and ignore injuries and the talent level of players. Darvin had injuries, Russ, and no skilled players. What killed him was not having the support of the star players.
Trever, when the Lakers lost by 70 points over two games, did JJ "lose the locker room?" In both of those games, the team seem to quit on JJ. You had candid words for the Laker team, but no negative assessment of JJ. Why? If this happened under Ham you would have called for his firing.
Redick is 14-12 as a Rookie Did Darvin "lose the rocker room" when he started 10-15 as a Rookie Head Coach or did you preach PATIENCE with the Rookie Coach??
Bro I totally agree! JJ system is not working I will give him credit for changing the lineup, and playing a different defense from switching everything. Like u said Trevor didn't say a word about JJ when they loss those games by large marges.
Claiming he deserved an extension when he called ZERO timeouts when needed. Team would consistently fall behind double digits, he was silent as a mouse on sideline calling ZERO plays. Hardly held practices.. favored playing players who shouldnt have been getting as many minutes over players who actually should have. Terrible rotations. Losing the locker room. Not Figuring out yeah i should have used the starting 5 that got us to wcf till nearly 60 games into season. Man i don't wanna hear his bullshit one bit. Sure every issue or problem Lakers had wasn't all on him but a big majority of it was simply for the fact he wasn't a good coach. Dudes like a mouse on sideline with hands in pockets not calling a timeout until it's a 20-2 opponent run and not calling plays or showing emotion and he thinks he should have gotten a extension??🤣🤣 give me a break.
Sadly most of the NBA with agree with Darvin here because they see oooo bucks are doing good lakers are bad even though the Lakers are 6 games better at this point in tge season than last year.
LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80 JJ Reddick can't coach lol Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
Preach Darvin! JJ isn't catching nearly all the hate that Darvin did. People like Trevor making all kinds of excuses for JJ when the problem is the players. No way 3 coaches have the same exact issues but Bron and AD are blameless.
@@vesnam116 lol The laker FO/fans pretty much said ham held the lakers back.. they didn’t make any moves in the offseason.. so essentially saying ham was the problem.. present tense the Lakers are looking worse than last year, DLO & Rui both called out ham and now they are having down years lol
Dude they didn't even let Darvin and Vogel pick their own coaching staffs but JJ did lol. This channel is like 10% real Laker coverage/analysis and 90% Lebron damage control/blame defection smh. No wonder Lebron fanboys love this garbage
@@SWENTERTAINMENTINC the difference between Darvin Ham and JJ is JJ puts these guys in positions you succeed while Ham hurt the team. JJ has yet to make a ridiculous lineup unlike Darvin Ham would have an entire wing lineup with Bron, Cam, Tauren Prince, Vando and AD. With AR, Dlo and Rui coming off the bench. Wtf kinda lineup is that? Thats the kinda lineups i would accidentally put in 2k when i didn’t understand subbing yet. And he let teams go in 14-0 runs without calling a timeout. At least JJ is not making me yell at my screen to call a timeout or challenge. Now im yelling at my screen for Gabe or Dlo to fuckin hit their shots.
@@jusbertmeza4424 Lets say that you are right about everything that you said, but thru all of that ...Ham had a better record at this time last season than JJ has and that's what it's all about ain't it? It's about wins and loses. Stats don't lie
@ okay and this is JJs first year coaching and he has them on same path Darvin Ham had them on on his 3rd year? Whats your point exactly? They shouldve not fired him? He lost the locker room dude by benching ALL their starters at one point of the season other than Lebron and AD. The players didn’t respect him anymore. Do yall not understand that you can’t keep the same coach if the players lost respect for him?
@@jusbertmeza4424 My point is KEEP THE SAME ENERGIES!!! And stop lying on Darvin Ham saying he coached the Lakers for three years when he only coached them for two seasons. Plus he made the playoff each year. DARVIN HAMS RECORD WAS BETTER THAN JJ AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR. Which means JJ is doing worst. You also said that they are on the same path so KEEP THE SAME ENERGIES IS ALL THAT I AM SAYING.
Redicks a ROOKIE and were 14-12 Dog 💩 Darvin started 10-15 his Rookie Year despite having THREE first ballot Hall of Famers on the roster plus Schroeder Lets face reality 14-12>>>>>>>10-15 Redick is Darwins DADDY!!! 😭😭😭🤣🤣🍼🧂🧂🧂🍼🍼
It was all injuries and they still won over 50 games stop the cap Trevor. It was the racism of the fans that did him in. They blamed Taurean prince, and prince is top shooter from 3 this year but I never hear u mention that
It sucks that he started his first head coaching stint with the Lakers. The spotlight shines WAY to bright. He lost the locker room and thus his job. I do hope he gets another head coaching shot.
I don’t think he lost the locker room, he lost the fanbase. The only players who actually made comments are having a worse season under jj lol.. both rui & Dlo
@ He lost AD and that was huge. AD is a pretty quiet dude. For him to speak up and say we don’t have or run offensive plays, shows how much he lost the locker room.
@@derekchatman2595 lol i don’t remember him losing AD and the comment i remember is that guys don’t know what to do on defense, and they were playing alot of new guys like spencer and gabe had just joined the rotation..
@ Here is the defensive calloutth-cam.com/video/qbfEG_j0AGU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_b7MjNa-ybNvdFs5 He called out the offense and Ham in game two against the Nuggets. I can bring those receipts as well. Darvin even responded to AD’s callout on his coaching.
@@derekchatman2595 lol i guess but the main issues, i would assume he ran certain schemes because look at who our backcourt is… but more so sounds like trevor was trying to help turn fans against darvin tbh..
He’s definitely coaching for a few years to come. All the role players are still rotating in and out of injuries and if your huge pieces are getting hurt you can’t get better unless you trade them
If the expectations are high, then where’s the smoke for JJ Reddick for how terribly the team is performing. Not saying he should’ve got an extension but it’s awfully convenient to now say the roster is the problem which is basically the same.
What was sad was they didn’t even celebrate the win and money. Ham acting like he’s Phil Jackson with several titles. Relax bro. Let the guys have some fun.
@kuyab9122 So, he didn't take the team to the Western conference championship series? He didn't win the in season tournament? He didn't win his playin games? His stars weren't often injured? I realize some people don't know what facts are these days. You surely fall in that category. 🎤
@@kuyab9122 JJ hasn't lost it? First time i hear coach not knowing where his star player is and admitting it in public. I don't hear you asking JJ to be fired.
@@volfi123 Are you an NBA insider with you breaking that news? That's just an over-speculation from you concocting that rhetoric. Ham got the hammer down on to him with all the news and the players' silence was the end-game. Also, you might not be aware of it now but you just admitted the FACT that.. .HAM indeed LOST THE LOCKER ROOM. Let's get back to THAT FACT. Again, back to my question and the original premise here, What does that have to do with the fact that HE LOST THE LOCKER ROOM?
This whole “But we’re The Lakers” ignorance is the same problem why great coaches don’t wanna coach for us, why other teams refuse to trade with us, why players never leave with anything good to say about us, and why we can’t maintain any semblance of team chemistry/culture longer than two years
When has a superstar left the lakers and said bad things about them? Never. Its always the 6th man or a role player who’s upset because they struggled hitting their shots under the Laker name but as soon as they leave they go back to playing average. I never listen to those players because they expose themselves they can’t handle pressure and they just want an easy paycheck with no one saying shit
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Total BS This team has selective high expectations for different people. Explain to me how, in the hell, palinka is still there if they have these high expectations. The real problem is the ownership they're incompetent they use the Lakers as a cash register.
Darvin Ham shouldn’t even be saying anything, the fact that he couldn’t make any adjustments vs the nuggets , and decided not to play Vando was the reason they lost. He should’ve never been a coach. What a sore loser.
What was Vando gonna do? He sucks and did you forget the first year we played the nuggets and his ass couldn’t buy a shot or make a layup to save his life while already being left wide open cuz no one cares about him scoring what so ever ?!
Vando sucks dude, we have another Vando on the team that plays just like him in Cam Reddish that at least shows up and plays.. this dude Vando injured 2 years😂 then dude only played like a handful of games last season, idk why ppl try to save Vando but he sucks!!
@@steeezdashoota8569these guys are slow bro 😂.. they don’t want to be wrong . Vando gets played off floor on every team he has been on, thats why he keeps getting traded.. Pelinka shouldn’t have paid him..
And @Trevor, he gave up open 3's for a reason. It's called a strategy. Let poor three point shooters shoot. Just like other teams do for us and our none shooters. You have to give up something
Palinka should receive most of the blame why we have the team we have today and why it's hard for us to make the necessary moves we need to make with the roster. This should be his last chance to get it right. The only thing I didn't like about Darvin was he didn't call time outs when needed, no adjustments when needed, changing the line up constantly almost through the entire season, and no accountability when things went wrong.
@@upfulsoul826 Only a matter of time before JJ becomes the next scapegoat. That said, he definitely hasn't proven to be the vast improvement the fan boy Lakers media make him out to be.
Darvin is right. The problem with the Lakers is, and has been for a few years, defensive accountability. There isn't a coach in NBA history that can hold Lebron James accountable for his lack of defense. If you can't hold everyone accountable, you can't hold anyone accountable. The lack of defense snowballs downhill from the top to the bottom of the Lakers. This is why I want this team to rebuild. I'm tired of watching Lebron play for stats for one more year.
Made it to wcf , dominated after all star break two seasons in a row, won the in season tournament…. I can’t categorize that as incompetent nor unintelligent. Y’all swear JJ is intelligent but he’s literally already struggling
@@BrotherAceeHe UNDERACHIEVED both seasons considering the circumstances and rosters Dude started 10-15 as a Rookie Head coach despite having THREE First Ballot Hsll of Famers plus Schroder.. Had a healthy Bron/AD/Vando plus Lonnie/Walker/Schroder in the 2023 playoffs.. Any COMPETENT coach leads us to the 2023 title with that STACKED roster Bron/AD played 71/76 games last season. Considering that great firtune, any competent coach leads us to 55+ wins and AT LEAST out of the first round Doofus Darvin was the biggest UNDERACHIEVER of all time due to his incompetence and lack of intelligence
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
@StoneCold2k57 nope everything wasn't on Darvin there's a lot of blame to go around but he was horrible. It's his fault that he loved playing small ball against bigger teams. It was Ham's fault that he couldn't make adjustments. It was Ham's fault he continued to try what wasn't working. It was Ham's fault that he wouldn't call timeouts at the correct time. Should I go any further? 🤔
Oh you mean the plays that had them score under 100 points in 5 games ? Or the plays that had them lose by 40 points to Miami ? Yep such a great coach .
Lakers are going to have a worst year than any season with Darvin Ham. The reason why Reeves and D lo were benched was because of their defensive capabilities. The team would be better off because of Ham’s experience, and the entire coaching staff that he had.
Trev, u say there was plenty of blame to go around, yet only Ham lost his job... & I'm not a Ham Stan by any means, just don't like how u & this fanbase place unrealistic expectations on coaches & players. Poor ol' JJ isn't long for the job if u expect him to do something different with the same roster..
Taurean Prince was consistently available, most switchable defender and most reliable 3-n-D in those Lakers with 39% from 3, confidently knocking down open shots. The hate towards him across the fan base is absurd. Look at what happened to LAL defence this season without him - it just imploded.
And look at the bucks 3pts percentage and the Lakers last year to compare to this year without Prince, he helping the bucks be in the top 10 in the league in 3pts percentage .
@wills.9422 yea shit ,everyone forgot that Walker was doing good for the Lakers until his injury, and then Reaves came alive ,he forget to tell Walker thanks for the opportunity
Stop making excuses JJ sucks and if they don’t make it to the playoffs he should be gone also! Ham was not the problem it’s actually the front office they don’t know what they are doing!
He did not lose the locker room. He lost LeBron LeBron did not want to play for him. If he lost the locker room he couldn’t have beat the Boston Celtics without LeBron and A.D. that’s a fact.
@@upfulsoul826it was actually AD who got ham canned after he said they didn't know what they was doing after a playoff loss. Y'all try to blame Bron for everything 🤦😂😂😂
Trevor, you can't talk about the Lakers having exceptional standards while the ownership is willing to waste a roster spot for jersey sales and photo ops. Losing the locker room is a reflection on the team leaders/captains not the coach. Ham wasn't a perfect coach, but he wasn't any worse at his job than this front office is at theirs...
@herusun3654 ya, @Trevor_Lane uses the excuse that Ham lost the locker room... oh & that Vogel lost the locker room... oh & that Walton lost the locker room... That sounds like to me it's the players' attitude & indifference that's the "locker room" problem
@@ejsoto160 exactly. I know most of these guys make more money than the coaches so the dynamics can be a little different, but at the end of the day quiting is unacceptable as a player of team sports. You're supposed to go out there and try to execute your coaches plan to the best of your ability even if it's not your favorite idea. This team routinely quits in real time on the court. And like you said, with it happening under multiple coaches, you have to look at the leadership levels of LeBron and AD. Team captains are supposed to be the voice of the coach on the field/court or whatever. That clearly isn't happening here more often than not.
IMO Darvin Ham deserves credit for helping the team win the first ever NBA cup. Love him or hate him, he deserves some respect for his (little) contribution to the list of Lakers trophies. As for the playoffs... this team was not close to a Championship anyway, which is on Rob Pelinka, not Darvin Ham.
Dude gets the Western Conference Finals, In Season Tournament Winner. Darvin is not great but are we really gonna not say he was doing well. JJ is doing the same thing he did last year but not the same critiques
Well let see if JJ is held to the same high standards. JJ is about on par with what Ham’s teams were doing. If JJ continues to struggle how long will the Lakers wait to pull the plug. We keep hearing about how smart JJ is yet every game he’s standing on the sidelines with his hands in pocket. Then in his post game interviews we have to watch him hold his head and rub his eyes with every excuse he can come up with.
1 hall of famer Nikola Jokic 4-0 swept LeBum James and Anthony Davis 2 hall of famers 2023 Western conference finals showing how OVERRATED yo boy friend big difference from Jordan 1 hall of famer losing to 5 hall of famers Larry Bird, Dennis Johnson, Kevin Mcahale, Robert Parrish, Bill Walton in 1986 when Celtics 3-0 over Bulls 🤣🤣
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBum 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook more hall of fame and all star teammates
I really hate this man. If we're going with that logic (not counting the fact that he lost the locker room, mind you) Frank Vogel should have gotten a real shot being that he WON A CHAMPIONSHIP. Darvin, in his eyes, is the most blameless person on the planet. He could press the button to unleash a flurry of nukes and blow up some random country and he'd be like "well, gravity..." God, I'm sick of this man's BS.
David Blatt got carried to the 2015 Nba Finals in his rookie year as an Nba head coach. He got fired 6 months later and hasnt gotten an Nba coaching gig since Lemme know when Dog 💩 Darvin gets another Nba head coaching gig aka NEVER The entire league knows that being a LEAD ASSISTANT PLUMBER to Doc Rivers is his ceiling FACTS over Feelings!!! 😭😭😭🤣🤣🧂🧂🧂🍼🍼🍼
Darvin isn't wrong...u can hate on him all you want but fact he did take them to the WCF as a rookie HC. Facts they did win the IST had 47 wins last season with all the injuries and trade rumors swirling around..Its pretty much the same roster minus Prince..
@@hilamadventures4060Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you. You can hate on reality all you want but the fact is that Redicks 14-12 as a ROOKIE Doofus Darvin started 10-15 despite having THREE first ballot Hall of Famers plus Schroeder This is NOT the same team as last years. We had Prince and Dinwiddie last season. Bron is 40 yrs old and WASHED. Doofus Darvin never had to deal with a Washed Bron Fact is wed be 4-22 right now if Doofus Darvib was still the coach
@@hilamadventures4060 Reality is that Doofus Darvin started 10-15 as a Rookie Head Coach with a STACKED roster 14-12>>>>>>>>>>10-15 Reality is that Redick is Darvins DADDY!!! FACTS OVER FEELINGS!!! 😭😭😭🤣🤣🍼🍼🧂🧂🧂
@CannedHam2479 Darvin may not be your cup of coffee but u gonna tell me JJ is a dude who had no coaching experience ever? Darvins only flaw was he couldn't beat Denver but point to the game he lost to them by 30? Show where Minnesota beat hus team by 30? I can point to road wins at Boston/NYC/Phoenix Milwaukee ..smoking a healthy Pelicans team .
Shit 2 dudes that shouldn’t be in the nba in Maxwell Lewis and Jalen hood with 2 more dudes that haven’t played this season that are way over hyped in Vando and C wood , this team is ass
@@steeezdashoota8569 You forgot Max Christie (we’re paying him$1.29 million per point averaged 🤢🤮), Bronny, Cam and Jax (none would be on other full time rosters) Rui and DLO having down years and Austin suddenly struggling from 3 and FT 🙄
Darvin Ham was a bad coach. He made bad decisions, made bad or no adjustments at halftime, and struggled to draw up plays for his team at many different points. I think he's perfect as an assistant coach. He's probably a good motivator, and a good person to talk to... but no matter how you cut it, he wasn't head coach material. At least not yet, or for a historic franchise like the Lakers.
The question isn’t should he have gotten an extension questions should have been did he or did not lose the locker room or the respect of some players🤔
Two things can be true. Darvin needed replacing and the roster needed some athletic wings. Fixing only one of those problems doesn't create a solution.
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
That's why I'm glad that Lakers got no free agents and make JJ Reddick work with that same roster Darvin Ham had since you push false narrative that coaching the problem lol LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80 JJ Reddick can't coach lol Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
@@TheIntellect-q4e That's why I'm glad that Lakers got no free agents and make JJ Reddick work with that same roster Darvin Ham had since you push false narrative that coaching the problem lol LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80 JJ Reddick can't coach lol Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
The logical move would’ve been to upgrade the roster, allow Darvin to develop as an HC and evaluate him after the roster is upgraded, not keep the same roster and hire another new coach with no experience 😂 “losing the locker” is a reoccurring theme. How about putting the “professional” back into professional athlete?
Darvin is a damn good coach and im not buyin this lakers shield he took a team with Westbrook 33-49 and turned it around in two seasons and most of that praise went to Pelinka and not the coaching. Darvin will get another gig somewhere and we’ve got to figure it out with JJ.. Rob Pelinka should’ve got fired for letting Kenny Atkinson (known for his development work with players) just walk out of El segundo. Too many critical errors
Darvin should never been HIRED, more so than fired. Should have kept Frank, and figured it out, instead of scapegoating him for Westbrook and having him find out he was canned at a post-game press conference.
Darvin ham is absolutely right. Who they needed to fire is Rob Palanca and the Lakers front office they have to go if not, this team is headed in the wrong direction go Lakers.💜💛
fully agree that if he was with another team he would have gotten an extention. but yea, once u lose the locker room there is not hope for you coming back as the coach for the team
I don't see any measurable difference between Ham and his replacement. The person to get rid of is whomever is not making the right trades at the right time.
I don't believe Ham or Vogel should of been fired. It was and still is a roster construction issue. Also both Vogel and Ham had to deal with injuries to key players.
Facts ham 100percent correct yall jus mad JJ run with the lakers is not better than hams 😂😂😂 y’all use him as a scapegoat now y’all have to stand on that
If expectations are so high for the Lakers then why isn’t Pelinka held up to these high expectations?
Cuz they love to blame LeBron. I never understood y ppl blame lebron but have a gm that no team wants to work with
Facts 💯
I think the answer is obvious. It's the Elephant in the room.
@@mackcity74gdn89There's more to it than that. They didn't blame Lebron when Ham was coaching.
@@mackcity74gdn89 learn to take accountability Bron stan
Lakers have roster issues.
Until that’s fixed no coach will succeed there
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Yes the issue is on his 22nd year
@ lol
Exactly what coach is going to succeed here
@@markl8787 no, the issue is still going to be there in the FO when he retires 😂
If Vogel couldn't get an extension no way Ham gets one.
Man facts
It sucks but that’s just how it is with that lakers you have to be the best of the best of the best, sir!
We did Vogel so dirty giving him a team of old geezers and then expecting him to turn that into a competent defense. THEN firing him through a press conference and then giving the gm who did it an extension 😭
true, dude won a chip in one of the hardest situations.
So that means that JJ should absolutely be fired when his contact is up
I knew as soon as the bucks won he was gonna say something!😂😂😂
To be fair, he earned the right to talk smack
@@kwesip6267he’s talking delusional
@@kwesip6267no he hasn’t what he did so special why he not ahead coach currently did he win a championship?
Not to mention all the flack he too from this fan base
Damn frontrunner 😂
Darvin ham and doc rivers are made for each other lol
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
@ troll
@@StoneCold2k57all of that has nothing to do with the video or what this guy commented 😐
@@StoneCold2k57it’s so easy to combat this idiocy but I’m not gonna waste my time…all I’ll say is LeBron has the most game winners ever and has the most rings and FMVPs in the best era of ball despite his teams being underdogs in 7/10 finals
@@StoneCold2k57how many times did Jordan make it there only 6 why not more oh he wasn’t good enough to make it there & didn’t Bird sweep him twice in the playoffs what a shame that’s his daddy
I’m really starting to realize that a lot of folks in this community secretly know that Darvin Ham was ultimately not the problem. He was a scapegoat. And it’s clear from what we are seeing right now. The coach was not the issue. it was and still is the front office and the moves not being made to improve the team plain and simple
It’s both, the front office didn’t do a good enough job on the roster and then Darvin exacerbated the roster problems. His lineups were borderline outrageous
Sick of this "scapegoat" word
Too bad reality vehemently fisagrees with you
Darvin scam.
@@eccentricaste3232keep that same energy for JJ
He keeps all of his NBA cup wins in his pockets
One for each pocket
😂😂😂
Ook this made me chuckle from a healthy place.pictured Ham stuffing both cups in his pockets😂😂
🤣
Jj can't even get that
Someone should tell Rob Polinka that expectations are high and this roster isn’t acceptable
Exactly, not sure how coach after coach gets blamed and let go, meanwhile he's the one picking them and making bad roster moves
Expectations is different for everyone on the Lakers outside of the horrible GM in Bum Pelinka and Bad Ownership in Buss Bratz.
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@outhereq1 🎯🎯🎯🎯
The problem is LeGM. Rob signs klutch players when lebron holds us hostage signing his extension every summer.
Very true its not the lakers. and honestly we should've kept vogel. I never thought he should've been fired.
As a matter of fact it IS the lakers specifically Rob Pelinka
Trevor Lane can we get a long in depth video on how Jeanie Lakers owner needs to start showing her face soon and answer tough questions about her job . One championship in 14 going on 15 years while having a “GOAT” on your team for half of that time. What really needs to change?? This is the Legendary franchise Lakers right ? Are the right ppl in the right departments under your watch ? Is the ownership steering the ship in the right direction? Who is steering this ship ?
Linda Rambis. LOL...
@@ciscole2831 they don't have a championship in 14 yrs
Ham is absolutely correct and I'm glad he got his getback winning the NBA CUP twice ..
Darvin Ham did go to the Conference finals, then proceeded to bench key players starting in the playoffs, changed the lineups multiple times, showing favor to certain players, and effectively ruining his relationships with all the players. He lacked critical thinking and got out coached by damn near everyone he coached against. If that's worth an extension, you must be on something man.
Injuries changed the lineup more than ham just like JJ did.
Meth💨
@mostmost1 The Lakers now are more injured than they were with Ham
Thank you😂😂😂😂 and his game management , this dude never knew when to call a timeout or make rotations when someone is playing bad 😂😂😂 dude would let teams go on runs without calling a timeout 😂😂😂 what a good coach he thinks he is
Exactly! Darvin was so bad in game he just let everything ride like he was just a spectator out there. He had a better healthier roster and the better version of Dlo to work with. JJ has had skeleton crews out there.
D ham was the scapegoat
As a Laker fan, to attempt to give JJ credit for the same moves that Ham did is blasphemy. DLO being benched was the cause of him losing the locker room and what his role this year? Injuries still plague us and JJ is still given grace. The real issue is the roster. I don’t care who coaches this current team. It’s going to be same results period. Stop making coaches scapegoats it’s a bad look
When A.D. is saying at the END OF THE SEASON , We dont know what we are doing out there. That means You deserve to be Fired
Lol. Or the players are running from accountability again and setting up another scapegoat ...
And that is it. Nothing u can do with a coach nobody wants to listen
I mean AD is not wrong at times Darvin Hamburger 🍔 didn't know what to do
Exactly.
I mean he told players "salute" when drawing up a play. What does that even mean?
I loved that Ham stood up to the bully and called out the shenanigans of the Two stars that quit on him.
He got fired not because for what he did, it was for what he didn’t do.
@@franciscoperez6409 That makes no sense. Its both. He got fired because of his awful rotations (what he did) and got fired for not taking accountability (he didnt do). Ur acting like he was good at the things he did do. He was bad at everything no matter what he did or didnt do
This is just one example. He used 3 guard lineups, “Salute.” Didnt know how to draw plays and used weird starting lineups. He lost the locker room
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
@@RealtalkDeanthis is a Darvin video and comment. How you turn it into a lbj goat debate is crazy.
Exactly. Young players didn’t progress under him, among other things.
Darvin is right. Lakers look for someone to blame and ignore injuries and the talent level of players. Darvin had injuries, Russ, and no skilled players. What killed him was not having the support of the star players.
Darvin right. He took them to western conference finals.
@@JoshuaEdwards-k7r & he improved on the win total from the yr prior... those are successes u build on, not fire a coach for
Trever, when the Lakers lost by 70 points over two games, did JJ "lose the locker room?" In both of those games, the team seem to quit on JJ. You had candid words for the Laker team, but no negative assessment of JJ. Why? If this happened under Ham you would have called for his firing.
Agreed!!
Peace! Absolutely 💯
Redick is 14-12 as a Rookie
Did Darvin "lose the rocker room" when he started 10-15 as a Rookie Head Coach or did you preach PATIENCE with the Rookie Coach??
Bro I totally agree! JJ system is not working I will give him credit for changing the lineup, and playing a different defense from switching everything. Like u said Trevor didn't say a word about JJ when they loss those games by large marges.
Because you know JJ cares and he shows it. It is quite evident he hates whenever they lose. Can you say you felt the same kind of sentiment from Ham?
He's not wrong, glad he's speaking up
when will PELINKA get held accountable???
This is ridiculous already the media keeps protecting Pelinka for no good reason
yep lotta soft folks who don't like being objective. they think like girls
Join him in Milwaukee
Same here
“Lost the locker room “ but has a winning record as a coach make it make sense
Why did the Bucks fire Adrian Griffin? The Bucks were 2nd in the East.
@@spokcam he lost the locker room 😏
Ham needs to sit down. Dude was trash, come on now, lets be honest. Mr. Hands in the pocket was trash
Yet he's gone and they are still @ss, they may not even make the playoffs.
And JJ is doing so much better?
@jjsavior exactly. He navigated a lot and still left with a playoff team and winning record
3 guard line up
Salute 🫡
Claiming he deserved an extension when he called ZERO timeouts when needed. Team would consistently fall behind double digits, he was silent as a mouse on sideline calling ZERO plays. Hardly held practices.. favored playing players who shouldnt have been getting as many minutes over players who actually should have. Terrible rotations. Losing the locker room. Not Figuring out yeah i should have used the starting 5 that got us to wcf till nearly 60 games into season. Man i don't wanna hear his bullshit one bit. Sure every issue or problem Lakers had wasn't all on him but a big majority of it was simply for the fact he wasn't a good coach. Dudes like a mouse on sideline with hands in pockets not calling a timeout until it's a 20-2 opponent run and not calling plays or showing emotion and he thinks he should have gotten a extension??🤣🤣 give me a break.
Sadly most of the NBA with agree with Darvin here because they see oooo bucks are doing good lakers are bad even though the Lakers are 6 games better at this point in tge season than last year.
LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol
Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80
JJ Reddick can't coach lol
Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol
Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers
JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
Yawn Bron stan
Big facts
Preach Darvin! JJ isn't catching nearly all the hate that Darvin did. People like Trevor making all kinds of excuses for JJ when the problem is the players. No way 3 coaches have the same exact issues but Bron and AD are blameless.
Pockets is trash. There's a reason he's not a head coach right now.
Keep blaming the coaches in LA 😂
Yea everyone tried to throw to dirt on his name, now look who’s getting the last laugh so far..
@@justthisguy1948when did we start giving assistant coaches the credit? Im wondering when that became a thing?
@wills.9422 Ham is getting the last laugh for going back from a HC to an assistant? 🤯🤣🤣
@@vesnam116 lol The laker FO/fans pretty much said ham held the lakers back.. they didn’t make any moves in the offseason.. so essentially saying ham was the problem.. present tense the Lakers are looking worse than last year, DLO & Rui both called out ham and now they are having down years lol
Dude they didn't even let Darvin and Vogel pick their own coaching staffs but JJ did lol. This channel is like 10% real Laker coverage/analysis and 90% Lebron damage control/blame defection smh. No wonder Lebron fanboys love this garbage
Darvin Ham likes to "Ham it Up" for the camera!😂 This guy has "Zero Accountability"!🙄
How do you feel about the new coach JJ ?
@@SWENTERTAINMENTINC the difference between Darvin Ham and JJ is JJ puts these guys in positions you succeed while Ham hurt the team. JJ has yet to make a ridiculous lineup unlike Darvin Ham would have an entire wing lineup with Bron, Cam, Tauren Prince, Vando and AD. With AR, Dlo and Rui coming off the bench. Wtf kinda lineup is that? Thats the kinda lineups i would accidentally put in 2k when i didn’t understand subbing yet. And he let teams go in 14-0 runs without calling a timeout. At least JJ is not making me yell at my screen to call a timeout or challenge. Now im yelling at my screen for Gabe or Dlo to fuckin hit their shots.
@@jusbertmeza4424 Lets say that you are right about everything that you said, but thru all of that ...Ham had a better record at this time last season than JJ has and that's what it's all about ain't it? It's about wins and loses. Stats don't lie
@ okay and this is JJs first year coaching and he has them on same path Darvin Ham had them on on his 3rd year? Whats your point exactly? They shouldve not fired him? He lost the locker room dude by benching ALL their starters at one point of the season other than Lebron and AD. The players didn’t respect him anymore. Do yall not understand that you can’t keep the same coach if the players lost respect for him?
@@jusbertmeza4424 My point is KEEP THE SAME ENERGIES!!! And stop lying on Darvin Ham saying he coached the Lakers for three years when he only coached them for two seasons. Plus he made the playoff each year. DARVIN HAMS RECORD WAS BETTER THAN JJ AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR. Which means JJ is doing worst. You also said that they are on the same path so KEEP THE SAME ENERGIES IS ALL THAT I AM SAYING.
So let’s hold this clown JJ Reddick to the same standards and fire him at the end of the year because this team will not end with a better record
Let’s face it, we suck with or without Ham. JJ hasn’t made a difference.
Yes he has. This is a team w a lot less talent than last year's team. Ham was awful.
You’re guaranteed the same guy screaming for hams firing last year…
Redicks a ROOKIE and were 14-12
Dog 💩 Darvin started 10-15 his Rookie Year despite having THREE first ballot Hall of Famers on the roster plus Schroeder
Lets face reality
14-12>>>>>>>10-15
Redick is Darwins DADDY!!!
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@@EZ33377- It’s the same team genius.
@@CannedHam2479- It’s NOT the same team that it was two years ago. It’s the same team as last season. Compare last season to this season.
It was all injuries and they still won over 50 games stop the cap Trevor. It was the racism of the fans that did him in. They blamed Taurean prince, and prince is top shooter from 3 this year but I never hear u mention that
It sucks that he started his first head coaching stint with the Lakers. The spotlight shines WAY to bright. He lost the locker room and thus his job. I do hope he gets another head coaching shot.
I don’t think he lost the locker room, he lost the fanbase. The only players who actually made comments are having a worse season under jj lol.. both rui & Dlo
@ He lost AD and that was huge. AD is a pretty quiet dude. For him to speak up and say we don’t have or run offensive plays, shows how much he lost the locker room.
@@derekchatman2595 lol i don’t remember him losing AD and the comment i remember is that guys don’t know what to do on defense, and they were playing alot of new guys like spencer and gabe had just joined the rotation..
@ Here is the defensive calloutth-cam.com/video/qbfEG_j0AGU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_b7MjNa-ybNvdFs5 He called out the offense and Ham in game two against the Nuggets. I can bring those receipts as well. Darvin even responded to AD’s callout on his coaching.
@@derekchatman2595 lol i guess but the main issues, i would assume he ran certain schemes because look at who our backcourt is… but more so sounds like trevor was trying to help turn fans against darvin tbh..
Trevor you are being completely misleading on this. All you and your crew had for Ham last year was criticism. AD is saying the same thing this year.
Ok, in that case, the way JJ is performing then we don’t expect JJ to be the coach next season!
He’s definitely coaching for a few years to come. All the role players are still rotating in and out of injuries and if your huge pieces are getting hurt you can’t get better unless you trade them
Why JJ not being held to the same scrutiny?
He has a great argument for people who dont watch Lakers games
If the expectations are high, then where’s the smoke for JJ Reddick for how terribly the team is performing. Not saying he should’ve got an extension but it’s awfully convenient to now say the roster is the problem which is basically the same.
What was sad was they didn’t even celebrate the win and money. Ham acting like he’s Phil Jackson with several titles. Relax bro. Let the guys have some fun.
Magic got a championship coach fired. You know what time it is when you are with the Lakers. Rob Pelinka is on deck
Ham talking FACTS. Facts. Don't hate. Give the current coach the same scrutiny right now.
Is it not a FACT, a FACT that he lost the locker room?
@kuyab9122 So, he didn't take the team to the Western conference championship series? He didn't win the in season tournament? He didn't win his playin games? His stars weren't often injured? I realize some people don't know what facts are these days. You surely fall in that category. 🎤
@@whodaboss99 What does that have to do with the fact that HE LOST THE LOCKER ROOM?
@@kuyab9122 JJ hasn't lost it? First time i hear coach not knowing where his star player is and admitting it in public. I don't hear you asking JJ to be fired.
@@volfi123 Are you an NBA insider with you breaking that news? That's just an over-speculation from you concocting that rhetoric. Ham got the hammer down on to him with all the news and the players' silence was the end-game. Also, you might not be aware of it now but you just admitted the FACT that.. .HAM indeed LOST THE LOCKER ROOM. Let's get back to THAT FACT. Again, back to my question and the original premise here, What does that have to do with the fact that HE LOST THE LOCKER ROOM?
He should have kept his mouth shut knowing that the Bucks had fired Bud after winning a real chip!
This whole “But we’re The Lakers” ignorance is the same problem why great coaches don’t wanna coach for us, why other teams refuse to trade with us, why players never leave with anything good to say about us, and why we can’t maintain any semblance of team chemistry/culture longer than two years
When has a superstar left the lakers and said bad things about them? Never. Its always the 6th man or a role player who’s upset because they struggled hitting their shots under the Laker name but as soon as they leave they go back to playing average. I never listen to those players because they expose themselves they can’t handle pressure and they just want an easy paycheck with no one saying shit
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Total BS This team has selective high expectations for different people. Explain to me how, in the hell, palinka is still there if they have these high expectations. The real problem is the ownership they're incompetent they use the Lakers as a cash register.
Darvin Ham shouldn’t even be saying anything, the fact that he couldn’t make any adjustments vs the nuggets , and decided not to play Vando was the reason they lost. He should’ve never been a coach. What a sore loser.
What was Vando gonna do? He sucks and did you forget the first year we played the nuggets and his ass couldn’t buy a shot or make a layup to save his life while already being left wide open cuz no one cares about him scoring what so ever ?!
Vando sucks dude, we have another Vando on the team that plays just like him in Cam Reddish that at least shows up and plays.. this dude Vando injured 2 years😂 then dude only played like a handful of games last season, idk why ppl try to save Vando but he sucks!!
@@steeezdashoota8569these guys are slow bro 😂.. they don’t want to be wrong . Vando gets played off floor on every team he has been on, thats why he keeps getting traded.. Pelinka shouldn’t have paid him..
And @Trevor, he gave up open 3's for a reason. It's called a strategy. Let poor three point shooters shoot. Just like other teams do for us and our none shooters. You have to give up something
Palinka should receive most of the blame why we have the team we have today and why it's hard for us to make the necessary moves we need to make with the roster. This should be his last chance to get it right. The only thing I didn't like about Darvin was he didn't call time outs when needed, no adjustments when needed, changing the line up constantly almost through the entire season, and no accountability when things went wrong.
Exactly
Jj has had about 10 different lineups and no one has said a word 😂
Man, Darvin took accountability plenty of times in those two years. It's not an accurate way to look at things, Trevor ... IMO.
Ikr, JJ does terrible postgame interviews. He looks like he is going to crash out. Most coaches are not emo like that.
@@upfulsoul826 Only a matter of time before JJ becomes the next scapegoat. That said, he definitely hasn't proven to be the vast improvement the fan boy Lakers media make him out to be.
Trev: Diff standards on Lakers, we don’t hand out extensions easily!
Rob Pelinka: Yeah Ham, not everyone gets an extension 😤
Darvin is right. The problem with the Lakers is, and has been for a few years, defensive accountability. There isn't a coach in NBA history that can hold Lebron James accountable for his lack of defense. If you can't hold everyone accountable, you can't hold anyone accountable. The lack of defense snowballs downhill from the top to the bottom of the Lakers. This is why I want this team to rebuild. I'm tired of watching Lebron play for stats for one more year.
Ty Lue held him accountable so did spo
I don’t like how he didn’t call timeouts but he’s right
I dont like how he was exposed as INCOMPETENT AND UNINTELLIGENT
That makes him 100 pct WRONG!
I’m willing to hear you out but you’re going to have to makepoints that back that up because that man had a winning tenure with the lakers.
Made it to wcf , dominated after all star break two seasons in a row, won the in season tournament…. I can’t categorize that as incompetent nor unintelligent. Y’all swear JJ is intelligent but he’s literally already struggling
@@BrotherAceeHe UNDERACHIEVED both seasons considering the circumstances and rosters
Dude started 10-15 as a Rookie Head coach despite having THREE First Ballot Hsll of Famers plus Schroder.. Had a healthy Bron/AD/Vando plus Lonnie/Walker/Schroder in the 2023 playoffs.. Any COMPETENT coach leads us to the 2023 title with that STACKED roster
Bron/AD played 71/76 games last season. Considering that great firtune, any competent coach leads us to 55+ wins and AT LEAST out of the first round
Doofus Darvin was the biggest UNDERACHIEVER of all time due to his incompetence and lack of intelligence
@@BrotherAceeTo be honest Darvin was running with better and healthier teams than JJ, this is the worst Lakers bench in years
The Lakers franchise you talk about does not exist. It died with Dr Buss.
You are right… He never had a sense of the Lakers including the fan base…
He isn‘t even a head coach no more😂😂
Bro is second fiddle to DOC RIVERS. I don’t wanna hear it 😂
2nd fiddle sure but the only difference between both teams is what? Both rosters are basically the same
Samething they blamed Darvin for is still happening so how is it his fault ? JJ not doing great .
Lets be honest Ham was horrible 😂
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
That’s a stretch
@@StoneCold2k57 get off your knees how dose their sack taste????
@@BrotherAcee" go hard at them dudes " "salute " " contest without fouling "😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@StoneCold2k57 nope everything wasn't on Darvin there's a lot of blame to go around but he was horrible. It's his fault that he loved playing small ball against bigger teams. It was Ham's fault that he couldn't make adjustments. It was Ham's fault he continued to try what wasn't working. It was Ham's fault that he wouldn't call timeouts at the correct time. Should I go any further? 🤔
Everybudy knows Darvin is a scapegoat
Yall give JJ a pass smh
At least JJ draws up plays, gains respect, and calls timeouts when needed.
Oh you mean the plays that had them score under 100 points in 5 games ? Or the plays that had them lose by 40 points to Miami ? Yep such a great coach .
Lakers are going to have a worst year than any season with Darvin Ham. The reason why Reeves and D lo were benched was because of their defensive capabilities. The team would be better off because of Ham’s experience, and the entire coaching staff that he had.
With hindsight being 20/20. Sure he could've got an extension. I'm not a fan of Ham AT ALL. But to be fair, what is JJ doing?
Lakers fans don’t wanna have this conversation… they may realize they the problem
He could not get an extension when he lost the locker room. How would he coach after that?! End of story.
Trev, u say there was plenty of blame to go around, yet only Ham lost his job... & I'm not a Ham Stan by any means, just don't like how u & this fanbase place unrealistic expectations on coaches & players. Poor ol' JJ isn't long for the job if u expect him to do something different with the same roster..
Taurean Prince was consistently available, most switchable defender and most reliable 3-n-D in those Lakers with 39% from 3, confidently knocking down open shots. The hate towards him across the fan base is absurd. Look at what happened to LAL defence this season without him - it just imploded.
And look at the bucks 3pts percentage and the Lakers last year to compare to this year without Prince, he helping the bucks be in the top 10 in the league in 3pts percentage .
@@shavaraparker3780 Yep. Last night they said he's shooting 52% this season...
@elementary8614 I think the Lakers should have made space on the roster to keep Prince ,he was very efficient and effective at his rol
@@shavaraparker3780pelinka got rid of every player Ham took a liking to, Lonnie,pat bev, TP, Dennis…
@wills.9422 yea shit ,everyone forgot that Walker was doing good for the Lakers until his injury, and then Reaves came alive ,he forget to tell Walker thanks for the opportunity
Stop making excuses JJ sucks and if they don’t make it to the playoffs he should be gone also! Ham was not the problem it’s actually the front office they don’t know what they are doing!
He did not lose the locker room. He lost LeBron LeBron did not want to play for him. If he lost the locker room he couldn’t have beat the Boston Celtics without LeBron and A.D. that’s a fact.
Facts.
@@upfulsoul826it was actually AD who got ham canned after he said they didn't know what they was doing after a playoff loss. Y'all try to blame Bron for everything 🤦😂😂😂
Trevor, you can't talk about the Lakers having exceptional standards while the ownership is willing to waste a roster spot for jersey sales and photo ops. Losing the locker room is a reflection on the team leaders/captains not the coach. Ham wasn't a perfect coach, but he wasn't any worse at his job than this front office is at theirs...
@herusun3654 ya, @Trevor_Lane uses the excuse that Ham lost the locker room... oh & that Vogel lost the locker room... oh & that Walton lost the locker room... That sounds like to me it's the players' attitude & indifference that's the "locker room" problem
@@ejsoto160 exactly. I know most of these guys make more money than the coaches so the dynamics can be a little different, but at the end of the day quiting is unacceptable as a player of team sports. You're supposed to go out there and try to execute your coaches plan to the best of your ability even if it's not your favorite idea. This team routinely quits in real time on the court. And like you said, with it happening under multiple coaches, you have to look at the leadership levels of LeBron and AD. Team captains are supposed to be the voice of the coach on the field/court or whatever. That clearly isn't happening here more often than not.
@herusun3654 agreed 💯
IMO Darvin Ham deserves credit for helping the team win the first ever NBA cup. Love him or hate him, he deserves some respect for his (little) contribution to the list of Lakers trophies. As for the playoffs... this team was not close to a Championship anyway, which is on Rob Pelinka, not Darvin Ham.
He's definitely right...
Jj blames players it’s funny y’all can’t see these players starting with LeBron are TRASH
Your comment starting with you, are TRASH. 😊
Where was this before the NBA in Season Cup????? How convenient you wait until you win it and then talk?! 😅
Lakers fans are delusional 😂
Devin should have gotten a extension
Dude gets the Western Conference Finals, In Season Tournament Winner. Darvin is not great but are we really gonna not say he was doing well. JJ is doing the same thing he did last year but not the same critiques
You just looking at some results not his coaching
Well let see if JJ is held to the same high standards. JJ is about on par with what Ham’s teams were doing. If JJ continues to struggle how long will the Lakers wait to pull the plug. We keep hearing about how smart JJ is yet every game he’s standing on the sidelines with his hands in pocket. Then in his post game interviews we have to watch him hold his head and rub his eyes with every excuse he can come up with.
Darvin like it’s boring in Milwaukee 😂😂😂 he trying to get back 😂😂😂
Darvin back to back in season tournament winner tho!
lol I mean he’s taking back the lakers one also in that case
Goat 🐐 Jordan 9 all defensive first teams 1 Dpoy and better defender then LeBum 5 all defensive first teams and 0 Dpoy awards in 23 seasons 🤣🤣🤣
1 hall of famer Nikola Jokic 4-0 swept LeBum James and Anthony Davis 2 hall of famers 2023 Western conference finals showing how OVERRATED yo boy friend big difference from Jordan 1 hall of famer losing to 5 hall of famers Larry Bird, Dennis Johnson, Kevin Mcahale, Robert Parrish, Bill Walton in 1986 when Celtics 3-0 over Bulls 🤣🤣
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBum 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook more hall of fame and all star teammates
I really hate this man. If we're going with that logic (not counting the fact that he lost the locker room, mind you) Frank Vogel should have gotten a real shot being that he WON A CHAMPIONSHIP. Darvin, in his eyes, is the most blameless person on the planet. He could press the button to unleash a flurry of nukes and blow up some random country and he'd be like "well, gravity..." God, I'm sick of this man's BS.
David Blatt got carried to the 2015 Nba Finals in his rookie year as an Nba head coach. He got fired 6 months later and hasnt gotten an Nba coaching gig since
Lemme know when Dog 💩 Darvin gets another Nba head coaching gig aka NEVER
The entire league knows that being a LEAD ASSISTANT PLUMBER to Doc Rivers is his ceiling
FACTS over Feelings!!!
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Darvin isn't wrong...u can hate on him all you want but fact he did take them to the WCF as a rookie HC. Facts they did win the IST had 47 wins last season with all the injuries and trade rumors swirling around..Its pretty much the same roster minus Prince..
@@hilamadventures4060Too bad reality vehemently disagrees with you.
You can hate on reality all you want but the fact is that Redicks 14-12 as a ROOKIE
Doofus Darvin started 10-15 despite having THREE first ballot Hall of Famers plus Schroeder
This is NOT the same team as last years. We had Prince and Dinwiddie last season. Bron is 40 yrs old and WASHED. Doofus Darvin never had to deal with a Washed Bron
Fact is wed be 4-22 right now if Doofus Darvib was still the coach
Reality is this Lakers are 14-11 can't defend a high school team right now
@@hilamadventures4060 Reality is that Doofus Darvin started 10-15 as a Rookie Head Coach with a STACKED roster
14-12>>>>>>>>>>10-15
Reality is that Redick is Darvins DADDY!!!
FACTS OVER FEELINGS!!!
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@CannedHam2479 Darvin may not be your cup of coffee but u gonna tell me JJ is a dude who had no coaching experience ever?
Darvins only flaw was he couldn't beat Denver but point to the game he lost to them by 30? Show where Minnesota beat hus team by 30?
I can point to road wins at Boston/NYC/Phoenix Milwaukee ..smoking a healthy Pelicans team .
Yada yada yada …. You didn’t get better with JJ Reddick …. All the firings are just reckless spending…..
We are 6 games ahead of last year at this time.
With a worse roster
Shit 2 dudes that shouldn’t be in the nba in Maxwell Lewis and Jalen hood with 2 more dudes that haven’t played this season that are way over hyped in Vando and C wood , this team is ass
That’s literally 4 ppl just sitting there every night collecting a check to do fuck all for the team
I highly doubt the lakers win 47 games which was there win total last season at 14-12 currently it’s a very real possibly they finish below .500
@@steeezdashoota8569 You forgot Max Christie (we’re paying him$1.29 million per point averaged 🤢🤮), Bronny, Cam and Jax (none would be on other full time rosters) Rui and DLO having down years and Austin suddenly struggling from 3 and FT 🙄
Darvin Ham was a bad coach. He made bad decisions, made bad or no adjustments at halftime, and struggled to draw up plays for his team at many different points. I think he's perfect as an assistant coach. He's probably a good motivator, and a good person to talk to... but no matter how you cut it, he wasn't head coach material. At least not yet, or for a historic franchise like the Lakers.
😂😂😂😂What a clown coach🤣🤣🤣
The question isn’t should he have gotten an extension questions should have been did he or did not lose the locker room or the respect of some players🤔
Exactly
Two things can be true. Darvin needed replacing and the roster needed some athletic wings. Fixing only one of those problems doesn't create a solution.
LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot tied 99-99 at the other end Jamal Murray CLUTCH made game winning shot Nuggets 101-99 over Lakers in game 2
Let me guess it's Darvin Ham fault that LeBron James CHOKED and missed a game winning 3point shot
Darvin Ham 90-74 winning record in 2 seasons reach conference finals after taking over a team that 33-49 missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired
Darvin Ham coach even with Mike Malone had the Lakers and Nuggets in tight battle games late in 4th quarter only difference is one coaches stars Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray closed games in winning time the other coaches stars LeBron James and Anthony Davis couldn't close out games and Nuggets 4-1 over Lakers
Reason why nobody wants to play with LeBron James that's why Klay Thompson, DeMar DeRozan, James Harden said no
Lakers not a championship team at all even with JJ Reddick I wonder who they gonna blame next when they still LOSING next season
Goat 🐐 Jordan 6 rings, 6 finals mvps only 1 all star teammate Scottie Pippen compare to LeBron 6 finals losses and still doesn't have atleast 5 rings in 22 seasons despite playing with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook
I agree
That's why I'm glad that Lakers got no free agents and make JJ Reddick work with that same roster Darvin Ham had since you push false narrative that coaching the problem lol
LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol
Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80
JJ Reddick can't coach lol
Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol
Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers
JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
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That's why I'm glad that Lakers got no free agents and make JJ Reddick work with that same roster Darvin Ham had since you push false narrative that coaching the problem lol
LeBron OLD and WASHED and not good enough anymore to lead a team to championship no matter how many coaches fired Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham or teammates y'all blame Russell Westbrook or D'angelo Russell now Austin Reaves lol
Lakers 14-12 still t rash with JJ Reddick as head coach and been blown out by Heat 134-93 and Nuggets 127-102 and by Suns 127-100 and also Wolves 109-80
JJ Reddick can't coach lol
Darvin Ham 90-74 record as a head coach made conference finals first season taking over for a Lakers 33-49 team missed playoffs got Frank Vogel fired lol
Darvin Ham won in season tournament with Lakers
JJ Reddick not winning in season tournament or making NBA conference finals as a rookie lol so he's a downgrade
The logical move would’ve been to upgrade the roster, allow Darvin to develop as an HC and evaluate him after the roster is upgraded, not keep the same roster and hire another new coach with no experience 😂
“losing the locker” is a reoccurring theme. How about putting the “professional” back into professional athlete?
Darvin is a damn good coach and im not buyin this lakers shield he took a team with Westbrook 33-49 and turned it around in two seasons and most of that praise went to Pelinka and not the coaching. Darvin will get another gig somewhere and we’ve got to figure it out with JJ.. Rob Pelinka should’ve got fired for letting Kenny Atkinson (known for his development work with players) just walk out of El segundo. Too many critical errors
I think darvin ham was a terrible coach he was a joke
Darvin should never been HIRED, more so than fired. Should have kept Frank, and figured it out, instead of scapegoating him for Westbrook and having him find out he was canned at a post-game press conference.
JJ better get fired, too!!
Darvin ham is absolutely right. Who they needed to fire is Rob Palanca and the Lakers front office they have to go if not, this team is headed in the wrong direction go Lakers.💜💛
I'm a Laker fan but also a realist Darvin Ham does have a point
fully agree that if he was with another team he would have gotten an extention. but yea, once u lose the locker room there is not hope for you coming back as the coach for the team
All you do is primarily blame Westbrook and Ham. This team won’t see blessings again until this stop. You can forget about any significant success…
I don't see any measurable difference between Ham and his replacement. The person to get rid of is whomever is not making the right trades at the right time.
Trevor, you’re making Darvin look good 😂
I don't believe Ham or Vogel should of been fired. It was and still is a roster construction issue. Also both Vogel and Ham had to deal with injuries to key players.
Facts ham 100percent correct yall jus mad JJ run with the lakers is not better than hams 😂😂😂 y’all use him as a scapegoat now y’all have to stand on that
As a bucks fan, thanks for being disfunctional. Prince and ham have been real nice 😂😂. Ope almost forgot about brook Lopez 😂😂
Why aren't u a head coach now darvin? Ciz u dont know anything about coaching
Lakers trash, front office trash, owner trash..we basically the Clippers in designer 😂
Go hard on them dudes salute ✊ 🤣🤣