Solving the last question on a math league contest

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  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

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    • @stefanobilleter2556
      @stefanobilleter2556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try this!
      IMO, 5th problem:
      Finds the triplets (a, b, p) of integer positive numbers, and b being also a prime number, s.t. : a^p=b!+p

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stefanobilleter2556 Statement of the problem appears to be incomplete, or ambiguous.
      When you say, "... and b being also a prime ..." - did you forget to say that p is prime? Or a?
      Or is b the only one required to be prime? In which case, why use "p" rather than just, "c"?
      Fred

  • @Ahmed_IB
    @Ahmed_IB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    That’s an example of “Understanding the question is half of the solution”

    • @ghsdftfm
      @ghsdftfm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exam marking rubrics: about that

    • @Ahmed_IB
      @Ahmed_IB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghsdftfm 😂😂

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      8/9 of the difficulty

    • @Ahmed_IB
      @Ahmed_IB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trueriver1950 Ikr

  • @AniketPatil-nk1vw
    @AniketPatil-nk1vw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I assumed the translation values as a and b.
    So (x+a)(y+b)=k
    --> xy + bx + ay + (ab - k) = 0 (eqn 1)
    Also, y = (x - 3)/(1 - 3x)
    --> -3xy - x + y + 3 = 0
    Dividing by -3 to make xy coefficient 1:
    --> xy + (1/3)x + (-1/3)y + (-1) = 0 (eqn 2)
    Comparing like terms in eqns 1 & 2:
    a = -1/3, b = 1/3,
    ab - k = -1 --> -1/9 - k = -1
    --> k = -1/9 + 1 --> k = 8/9

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      yup ... that is how I was taught to do it. But it was in a college 200 level dynamics class. How to translate an origin to a new reference by a constant factor. The lesson started off ... 'remember in high school when they showed you this' ... and every one was like ... NO!.

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    First idea of attack (meaning it's probably not the best way):
    You can get xy = k, by first getting y = k/x. So let's "translate" that denominator like so:
    x' = x-⅓; x = x'+⅓
    Then we will have
    y = (x-3)/(1-3x) = (x'-8/3)/(-3x') = -⅓(1 - 8/[3x']) = -⅓ + 8/[9x']
    y + ⅓ = 8/[9x']
    Now just let y' = y + ⅓ and we get
    x'y' = 8/9
    so k = 8/9 . . . not something I would have anticipated, without doing the work
    Now to see how bprp does it...
    Fred

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So if you make the denominator 1-3x equal to x' by translation, then x = (x'-1)/-3 = (1-x')/3
      When x' → 0 ←, x = 1/3. So x - 1/3 is a natural choice because we know neither x or y can be zero because xy=k>0.

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @gammano0b858
    @gammano0b858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The way I did it was by reasoning, that the graph of y can be written in the form (x-a)(y-b)=k (just by the question)
    So, multiplying this thnig out yields xy - xb - ya + ab = k
    If you multiply the actual function of the graph by the denominator, you get y(1-3x) = x - 3, rearranging a little bit and you have -3xy -x + y = -3
    We want no konstant term in front of the xy term, so divide by -3:
    xy + x/3 - y/3 = 1
    We can now easily choose a and be as the factors for the single x and y term, so that they match the general formula at the top:
    a = -1/3, b = 1/3 => xy - (-1/3)x - (1/3)y = 1
    Now adding on both sides the ab = (-1/3)(1/3) = -1/9 term will give us the solution:
    xy - (-1/3)x - (1/3)y + (-1/3)(1/3) = 1 + (-1/3)(1/3) = 8/9
    Now, we not only have our k (k=8/9) but also the x and y-shift (a is x-shift and b is y-shift)

    • @ZrJiri
      @ZrJiri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did the same thing. I stopped watching the video when he said "let's do polynomial long division" :D

    • @JoQeZzZ
      @JoQeZzZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, the question is actually really simple. The hint especially almost gives the answer, just fill in x' and y' as x+a and y+b respectively and do a little algebra. Because of the strict form of both the answer and the transform (only translation) you can really only do it one way.
      When I started doing it I thought it might possibly be a range or multiple values of k, but you really don't need any insight in the problem to solve it. Literally did it on the back (ok, the front) of an envelope.

  • @connerp6878
    @connerp6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please please do more of these. My school took these when I was in high school and they have some really interesting and difficult questions.

  • @DokterrDanger
    @DokterrDanger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you don't know what the teacher is teaching and just want to pretend that you are paying attention: 0:08

  • @taranmellacheruvu2504
    @taranmellacheruvu2504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the definition of a translation:
    (x-3)/(1-3x) = f(x)
    f(x) translated is k/x because xy = k becomes y = k/x.
    f(x-a)+b = k/x
    (x-a-3)/(1-3(x-a)) + b = k/x
    (x-a-3+b(1-3x+3a))/(1-3x+3a) = k/x
    Multiplying it out, rearranging, and then factoring, I got:
    ((1-3b)x-a+b-3ab-3)/(-3x+3a+1) = k/x
    To get it into a form with x in the denominator, I took out a factor of -1/3 and put it in the numerator. Then, the coefficient of x in the numerator had to be 0, so I had:
    -(1-3b)/3 = 0
    3b = 1
    b = 1/3
    The denominator is now (x-a-1/3), so (-a-1/3) must equal 0.
    -a-1/3 = 0
    a = -1/3
    Now that the coefficient of x in the numerator is 0, all terms with a & b in the numerator come out to the constant k.
    -(-a+b+3ab-3)/3 = k
    This simplifies to 8/9.

  • @anti-loquax2758
    @anti-loquax2758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think a simpler way to state the problem would be to write "The graph of y = (x-3)/(1-3x) can be transformed into the graph of xy = k by a translation. For what value of k is this possible?"

    • @7654jake
      @7654jake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the same question in a slightly different order. I don't understand why this would be simpler

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the transformed by translation is redundant. They could have said "be translated in to the graph xy=k."

  • @pwmiles56
    @pwmiles56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Without knowing the answer...
    y = (x - 3) / (1 - 3x)
    We want to make the numerator on the right hand side a constant. Add 1/3 to both sides
    y + 1/3 = [(x - 3) + (1 - 3x)/3)] / (1 - 3 x)
    y +1/3 = (-3 + 1/3) / (1 - 3x)
    y + 1/3 = (-8/3) / (1 - 3x)
    y +1/3 = (8/3) / (3x - 1)
    y +1/3 = (8/9) / (x - 1/3)
    (x - 1/3)(y + 1/3) = 8/9
    The left hand side shows the translation. The right hand side is k

    • @abds8842
      @abds8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      how do you know to add 1/3 to both sides?

    • @pwmiles56
      @pwmiles56 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abds8842 Because it cancels the x in the numerator

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're gonna lose most people without showing the cancellations and substitutions. You rewrote 3(x-3) + (1-3x) as straight to (x - 3) + (1 - 3x)/3), that's a lot of jumps to follow.
      (x-3) 1 3(x-3) + (1-3x) 3(-3+1/3) 1/3 - 3 (-8/3) / -3 8/9 → k
      ____ + ---- = ------------------------ = ---------------- = -------------- = ---------------- = ------ ----- = y + 1/3 → y'
      (1- 3x) 3 3(1-3x) 3(1-3x) 1-3x (1-3x) / -3 x-1/3 → x'
      There ... so they can follow.
      It cancels x in the numerator? I guess that is saying you want to make the numerator constant again like you originally said. What you meant was the variable x in the numerator is 1x and the variable in the denominator is -3x so you add 1/3 to get the numerator as a constant?
      I know you know what you are talking about ... just trying to make it easier for everyone else to understand the method ... it's called partial fraction decomposition if the numerator has an x value with a lower power than the numerator or in this case polynomial long division ... just like he did in the video.

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abds8842 just as he did in the video ... he divided (x-3) by (-3x-1) ... -3x goes into 1x, -1/3 times and the x cancels, so you have to add 1/3 to both sides ... which cancels the -1/3 on the right hand side making the numerator a constant and y+1/3 on the left hand side. Hope that helps.

  • @Samtolid
    @Samtolid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Btw is there a black pen red pen's discord ?

  • @morteza3268
    @morteza3268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Pay attention to my method, it is very simple. I see this function as a ratio and therefore use the properties of ratios‌.
    y=(x-3)/(1-3x)
    I multiply both sides of equality by 3. The goal is to eliminate x from the right-hand side of the ratio.
    3y=(3x-9)/(1-3x)
    We add the denominators of the fractions to the ratios.
    (3y+1)=-8/(1-3x)
    So (3y+1)(1-3x)=-8 (y+1/3)(1/3-x)=-8/9

    • @tagaug
      @tagaug 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well done!

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Multiply through by -1 to get the final answer, that supports out the coefficient of x at the same time :)

  • @ocayaro
    @ocayaro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best way, find dy/dx, then generate its scaling first order symmetries i.e. ^x = x+ce, ^y = y + ce, which define ^y=y exp(e). Sorry, it’s using Lie group theory is too complex a procedure for your viewers, but it does solve ALL the scaling transformation.

  • @Jack_Callcott_AU
    @Jack_Callcott_AU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think my way was better. Firstly, I wan't sure what was meant by a translation. Did it mean just horizontal shift , but when I saw the question on the paper BPRP showed to camera, I realised it meant horizontal and vertical, as in linear algebra. So I substituted (x-a) for x , and (y-b) for y in the original equation and expanded it out to see what values of a and be were needed to make the unwanted terms in x and y disappear.

    • @devd_rx
      @devd_rx ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk my mind instantly just wanted to divide the numerator

  • @josephwong3936
    @josephwong3936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just find the vertical and horizontal asymptotes first so we know how much the graph is translated.
    Set the denominator to zero to find the vertical asymptote at x=1/3. Set the limit x goes to infinity to find the horizontal asymptote at y=-1/3. So we need to translate xy=k right by 1/3 and down by -1/3, which means we solve for k from (x-1/3)(y+1/3)=k and y=(x-3)/(1-3x) (two equations are identical). Expanding both equations, we get xy+x/3-y/3-1/9=k and -3xy+y-x=-3, then divide the second equation by -3 to become xy+x/3-y/3=1. Now it is obvious k=8/9.

  • @chazzbunn7811
    @chazzbunn7811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How I tackled this wasn't at all this smooth, but it does show deductive reasoning so I would like to share it. The first thing I did was move all the variables to one side and all the constants on the other side and got y - 3xy - x = -3. I noticed the lone y on the left hand side is because I first multiplied both sides by 1-3x. So I think I need a horizontal shift such that the 1 disappears in the denominator, so I shift the graph to the left by 1/3. With that I got y=(x-8/9)/(-3x) = -1/3 + 8/9x. Okay, so now the -1/3 is an issue, no problem I'll shift the graph up by 1/3 and it's gone. So now the transformed graph is y = 8/9x, multiply both sides by x and you get xy = 8/9.

  • @wildmonkies
    @wildmonkies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow that was alot simpler. I first solved for x/y intercept, asymptote of the post translated equation and plugged in the values to solve for k in a rewritten form of the function before translation.
    Asm: (1/3,∞)
    X-int: (3,0)
    Y-int: (0,-3)
    y=k/(x-A) + B
    From Asm => A = 1/3
    From X-int => B = -3k/8
    From Y-int => k = 24/27 = 8/9

  • @simonwillover4175
    @simonwillover4175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had an easy time understnading the question but never though to do polynomial division, because usually polynomial division just complicates the expression and gets you nowhere.
    Some great rules I follor for math:
    * don't divide polynomials
    * don't substitute
    * only trust the formulas you memeorized for the specific scenarrio
    So, even though I always have smart ideas, I never actually succeed because my rules prevent me from using anything cool.

  • @pseudo_goose
    @pseudo_goose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My method - Manipulate the original equations so that they are in the same form: y = (x - 3) / (1 - 3x) and (x + a)(y + b) = k (baking the translations as additional variables in the equation involving k).
    Starting from (x + a)(y + b) = k:
    1. (y + b) = k / (x + a)
    2. y = k / (x + a) - b
    3. y = (k - b(x + a)) / (x + a)
    4. y = (k - bx - ba) / (x + a)
    5. y = ((k - ba) - bx) / (x + a)
    6. y = (-3(k - ba) - (-3bx)) / (-3x - 3a)
    7. y = (3bx - 3(k - ba)) / (-3a - 3x)
    Note, (7) this is in the same form as the original equation (y = (px - q) / (r - sx)), so we can equate the coefficients between them:
    p: 3b = 1;
    q: 3(k - ba) = 3;
    r: -3a = 1;
    s: 3 = 3. I already handled this one by multiplying by -3/-3 in (5)->(6) :)
    A system of equations in 3 variables, where it is very easy to solve for a=-1/3 and b=1/3, and substitute in the third equation to find k=8/9.

  • @taranmellacheruvu2504
    @taranmellacheruvu2504 ปีที่แล้ว

    Revisiting this video after a while, I did it this way, with comparatively minimal algebra:
    xy=k means y=k/x, so the translation has to have a vertical asymptote at x=0 and a horizontal asymptote at y=0.
    f(x)=(x-3)/(1-3x) has a VA at x=1/3. To get it to 0,
    f(x+ 1/3)= (x- 8/3)/(1-3x-1)
    f(x+ 1/3)=g(x)=(x- 8/3)/(-3x)
    g(x) has an HA at y=-1/3. To get it to 0,
    g(x)+ 1/3= (x- 8/3)/(-3x)+ 1/3
    = (8/3 -x)/(3x) + x/(3x)
    = (8/3)/(3x)
    = (8/9)/x
    y = (8/9)/x
    k = 8/9.

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome!!!

  • @rijaws
    @rijaws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, how did you end up with y + 1/3? Shouldn't it be y - 1/3 if we are trying to translate the horizontal asymptote toward y=0? You subtract the amount you want it to move up. Same with x, you move the vertical asymptote toward x = 0, meaning you subtract the amount you want to move right, meaning you get x + 1/3.
    In fact, replacing y with y + 1/3 and x with x -1/3 in the original function simplifies to y = (2x - 4) / (2 - 3x) which has asymptotes at x = 2/3 and y = -2/3, meaning it cannot match the graph yx=k which would have asymptotes at y=0 and x=0.

  • @ejrupp9555
    @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A logic sequence might go like this ...
    y is undefined when the denominator 1-3x = 0. So we know there is an asymptote when x = 1/3.
    As x→ ∞, ( x- 3 ) / (1 - 3x ) = y → -1/3. So we know that is an asymptote.
    The translation must have it's asymptotes shifted. x = 1/3, so x - 1/3 = 0, & y = -1/3, so y + 1/3 = 0.
    Therefore, ( x - 1/3 ) ( y + 1/3 ) = k. Substitute for y.
    k = ( x - 1/3 ) ((( x - 3 ) / ( 1 - 3x )) + 1/3 ).
    When x'=1, y'=k, x' = x - 1/3, so when x = 4/3.
    k = (4/3 - 3) / (1 - 12/3) + 1/3 = -5/3 / -3 + 1/3 = 5/9 + 3/9 = 8/9
    k = 8/9.
    Logic.

  • @florianbuerzle2703
    @florianbuerzle2703 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rewrote the denominator as 3(1/3 - x) and did partial fraction decomposition 😂 That gave -1/3 - (8/9) / (1/3 -x). Then x -> x + a and adding b yields: y = -1/3 - (8/9) / (1/3 - x - a) + b. Now it is easy to see that a and b must be 1/3, respectively. Therefore y = 8/(9x) and k = 8/9.

  • @gostakamp62
    @gostakamp62 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went with the approach (x+a)(y+b)=k, multiplied it out to get
    xy+bx+ay+ab-k=0
    Similarly for the other expression I got
    y-3xy-x+3=0
    Then a term by term comparison (starting with multiplying the first equation by -3 to get the roght xy-term-coefficient) to yield the result k=8/9

  • @saharhaimyaccov4977
    @saharhaimyaccov4977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how you find Circumference of an ellipse? this is hasnwt formula!!!!! how!///

  • @qaiserbozdar1542
    @qaiserbozdar1542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi blackpenredpen; Will you solve a problem of differential equation with the Frobenius Method.
    Problem: Find two linear independent series solutions in powers of x of DE x^2y" - (x^2 + x )y′ + y = 0
    I am waiting.. 🙂

  • @chessematics
    @chessematics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did it entirely in head, took some 2 mins to massage the equation and it yielded (3y+1)(3x-1)=8. Divided by 9 and yes, got the correct answer, in head.

  • @Vladimir_Pavlov
    @Vladimir_Pavlov 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    After how many years of schooling do you have this task offered in your country?
    More correctly, for what age of pupils? 13+?

  • @zachansen8293
    @zachansen8293 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for clearly differentiating your content from the sponsor. I really appreciate that.

  • @georget8008
    @georget8008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a typical problem of changing coordinates.
    Is this what the "by translation" means?

  • @gautierrousseau2580
    @gautierrousseau2580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before you solve ans factorise thé équation you should explain what a translation means for a graph and how you see it in a function. If you do not do that, once you have factorise correctly Yon Can still not understand that you have answered the question

  • @lidion95
    @lidion95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi can you plz teach us how to solve national Taiwan university transfer exam about calculus a problem

  • @shivamchouhan5077
    @shivamchouhan5077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome explanation thank you

  • @happy.5
    @happy.5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waiting for bprp launch channel for Analysis

  • @ethanthiebaut2596
    @ethanthiebaut2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    perhaps a more straightforward method is the following. Suppose we have the translation (x,y) --> (x+A, y+B) for A, B reals, on the original equation y = (x-3)/(1-3x). Then, the equation becomes y = (x + A - 3) / (1 - 3x - 3A) - B. Next, we desire to find the values of A and B (ultimately to find k) such that y = (x + A - 3) / (1 - 3x - 3A) - B = k/x. Getting rid of fractions and regrouping based on coefficients of powers of x. Comparing coefficients we can get a system of three equations in A, B and k. Finding k is then trivial (finding A and B is not even necessary). The value of k is then found to be 8/9.

    • @cameronkhanpour3002
      @cameronkhanpour3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you compare coefficients to get the system of equations? I was trying to work this out myself but got stuck after I grouped the coefficients by powers of x

    • @ethanthiebaut2596
      @ethanthiebaut2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cameronkhanpour3002 basically bring everything to the LHS and because the RHS is 0 all coefficients of the powers of x must be 0 and also the constant term must be 0.

    • @cameronkhanpour3002
      @cameronkhanpour3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethanthiebaut2596 oh so you just set each coefficient of the polynomial to 0 and solved each each equation from there?

    • @ejrupp9555
      @ejrupp9555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your explanation is not straight forward.

    • @ethanthiebaut2596
      @ethanthiebaut2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ejrupp9555 I agree that the last part is rather sloppy, but that was simply because I was in a rush

  • @simonwillover4175
    @simonwillover4175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got k=sqrt(8/9). It's so close it looks right!

  • @soupe2000
    @soupe2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this question because it involves absolutely nothing very technical to solve it but it's really hard to understand it properly
    I didn't understand what were we supposed to get with K, but seeing the end result makes perfect sense and makes the question look almost easy. The trick here was really understanding what we were looking for and being really handy with number manipulations to make the translation formula appear

  • @eliojuniorshupingahuarengi8170
    @eliojuniorshupingahuarengi8170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pa cuando el vídeo de 100 límites?

  • @howareyou4400
    @howareyou4400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I did:
    Notice that y goes to infinity when x = 1/3, so x' = x-1/3 must be the x translation.
    Plug that in and the problem is basically solved.

  • @zapking8209
    @zapking8209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, I would’ve got this right within like 5 minutes, except my brain thought that 3*3=27…

  • @stefanobilleter2556
    @stefanobilleter2556 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try this!
    IMO, 5th problem:
    Finds the triplets (a, b, p) of integer positive numbers, and b being also a prime number, s.t. : a^p=b!+p

  • @carstenmeyer7786
    @carstenmeyer7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want to solve this by graphical intuition, I'd say the way as presented is pretty good. If you want the most efficient way, a better question might be
    _How can I manipulate the first equation to get to the form of the second equation?_
    The answer is to multiply both sides by *(x - 1/3)* with *x ≠ 1/3* to get rid of the denominator:
    *(x - 1/3) * y = 1 - x/3 => (x - 1/3) * (y + 1/3) = 1 - 1/3^2 = 8/9 =: k*

  • @darkslayer9936
    @darkslayer9936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just cross multiply and solve like a quadratic equation with xy in place of x^2. This will make it little bit faster

  • @samg9930
    @samg9930 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rewrote the goal as y = k/x, so I figured that I needed some sort of translation to get rid of the 1 in the denominator of (x - 3)/(1 - 3x). This can be done with a translation x › x + 1/3, which turns it into (x + 1/3 - 9/3)/(1 - 3x - 3/3) = (x - 8/3)/(-3x) = -1/3 + (8/9)/x. This is now a vertically shifted version of xy = 8/9 = k, as required.

  • @kaisteinsiek6946
    @kaisteinsiek6946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh, at first I got 8/9. But I thought that was to simple and tried some other way and got -1.

  • @aaravdixit3091
    @aaravdixit3091 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey bprp, love your content, you should try to do a video where you prove the pythagorean theorem blindfolded.

  • @tywad8697
    @tywad8697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t really understand the question till I actually just went at it, I started simply by rearranging the RHS to -(1/3) + (-8/3)/(-3x+1). Then after playing around with it a bit I got y+(1/3) = 8/9(x-(1/3)). From here you I just kinda saw the answer to equal 8/9 after I multiplied out part of the RHS denominator.

  • @derik714official
    @derik714official 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was confused about what "translation" meant. So I pondered over the comments and someone said it basically is a shift of axes, like x becomes x-a and y becomes y-b. I simply put that into the xy=k equation, and compared it with the given equation. k is easily found out to be 8/9

  • @mertyuce4609
    @mertyuce4609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As seen at the end of the video; if we draw the graph of f function which is given . Vertical is 1/3, horizontal is -1/3 it means that to get
    y=k/x x--->(x+1/3) and y--->(y+1/3) can be written at f and k is obtained.

  • @imsahil37
    @imsahil37 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Difficulty level :
    Eaaaasssyyyyyyyyy

  • @romeisbig6485
    @romeisbig6485 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does translation mean?

  • @ThePharphis
    @ThePharphis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This question was surprisingly easy. I decided to solve it myself for once

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My approach was to write a generic function g(x) as a vertical and horizontal translation of f(x) and create 3 equations (well, one was finding that the horizontal shift is trivially by -1/3) with 3 unknowns. Basic substitution/elimination from there.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      to elaborate further, as this wasn't the easiest method but I think a fairly easy method to understand...
      g(x) = f(x-d)+c
      (1)
      f(0) = -3
      which means that g(d) = -3 + c = k/d
      (2)
      f(3) = 0
      which means that g(3+d) = 0+c = k/(3+d)
      and finally
      (3)
      the horizontal asymptote was moved by 1/3, giving d = -1/3 or using the same style
      f(1/3) is undefined
      therefore g(1/3 + d) = k / (1/3 + d) is undefined --> d = -1/3
      So from there it's simply 2 equations with 2 unknowns

  • @comingshoon2717
    @comingshoon2717 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    a ver con qué sorpresa llegas hoy …

  • @dtnicholls1
    @dtnicholls1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nope. No idea what I just watched.

  • @alxjones
    @alxjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's pretty straightforward to just do x -> x-a and y -> y-b, then figure out which a and b give you y = k/x. After expanding everything, the coefficient of x on top is 1-3b, so let b = 1/3; the constant in the denominator is 1+3a, so let a = -1/3. Do the rest of the expansion with these numbers and you get y = 8/9x, so xy = 8/9 = k. Long division and factoring are definitely the smart way to do it, but in the heat of the moment, I think the plug-n-chug method is what I would reach for.

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For better readability, leave a space between addition and subtraction signs: x - a, y - b, 1 - 3b,
      1 + 3a, etc.

  • @Dogface1984
    @Dogface1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do this with a matrix and Eugene vectors?

    • @JoQeZzZ
      @JoQeZzZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, both functions aren't linear. Besides, translation is an affine transformation and not a linear one.

  • @nuranichandra2177
    @nuranichandra2177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool problem

  • @einsteingonzalez4336
    @einsteingonzalez4336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can alternatively do that by mapping out the transformations and then letting y = k/x and solving for k.
    If you get a constant for k, there's a unique solution. If you get an expression involving x for k, it would probably best to do a domain and range map.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's basically what my solution was. A few more lines of writing compared to the one in the video but it was easier to follow and think up in advance, I think

  • @MASUCHINXB
    @MASUCHINXB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn

  • @Khusyasy
    @Khusyasy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    last

  • @aryadebchatterjee5028
    @aryadebchatterjee5028 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    first

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think @nurani chandra beat you

  • @РусланДиниц
    @РусланДиниц 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That one was easy

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Thumbs-down.* Please describe your "easy" solution here instead of boasting about it with an otherwise empty post.

    • @РусланДиниц
      @РусланДиниц 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertveith6383 I found my solution. Write me if the link doesn't work.
      drive.google.com/file/d/1ITcdchJ90XU_BF9es718LV4TXRdGTons/view?usp=drivesdk
      In my class such problems were something that we used to solve every day. Sorry for my bad English)

    • @РусланДиниц
      @РусланДиниц 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertveith6383 And this called "comment". Don't be so toxic)

  • @Crazy_mathematics
    @Crazy_mathematics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Prove →Sinh ( ln(x) ) = [x² - 1]/2x

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your problem is off subject, *and* you wrote it incorrectly in at least one way. Whatever it might be (if it were correct), you supposedly intend to be dividing by 2x. You need to have 2x inside grouping symbols.

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first way that I thought of doing this was, following the thumbnail, to write (x+a)(y+b) = k. Then use the original equation to substitute for y, getting an equation with only x (along with the unknown constants a, b, and k). Now plug in any 3 values for x (or 4 if you accidentally use x = -1/3 for one of them and get a division by zero), getting 3 equations for the 3 unknowns. But then I decided that this would be too much work and did it your way. (Although I made a sign error and got -8/9. 🫤)