Mwuesse Not at all. There are a wide variety of factors that go into games-- the worst deck ever in history could go 12-0 off of 12 consecutive disconnects
It's not so much that the tier score isn't very good as much as the tier score is measuring only one aspect of the deck. Skill, synergy, and of course luck are also important, and the tier score doesn't measure that.
Infinity Sparks agreed but the fact it doesn't take synergy into consideration is what makes it bad. Ive had the same experiences as kripp where I've had insane mage decks by tier score not actually do very well yet have had went 6-3 with a 60 druid deck and 9-3 with a 61 rogue deck. its not just the synergy it doesn't account for but rather the overall balance of the deck. you can have all the board clears and premium spells but without the minions to back it up your deck can really suffer.
I said 3 days ago. Numbers are bullshit, or like Han Solo like to say,: " Never tell me the odds". SPOILERINO: He did 8 Wins with worst deck ever drafted, and 4 wins with the best.
I can't believe Kripp thinks this is the worst deck he's drafted, it has a curve, it has synergy and some good cards and it's better than most of my decks... Agreed
When I hear you talk about RNG draws in Hearthstone and tons of its bullshit, I remember Gwent and feel good. You really should try it, it's one of the most skill-based card games out there now I think.
HashtagOctothorpe Seems kinda weird though since we just had a new expansion come out two weeks ago so wouldn't Arena power lever already be higher than his last "worst draft"?
17:36 "Most of the cards that stand out get nerfed and never stand out again. The one exception to that is actually Leeroy." -Kripp 2016 He later admits that this was also the case with Auctioneer, BUT HE FORGOT ABOUT CHARRRRRGE.
60.1? Jeez, the lowest one I've ever drafted was 61.8. It was a Priest deck right after GvG came out, and somehow I managed a 5-3 out of it... then got a 2-3 on a 68.9 Paladin right after. Arena is weird.
ive been thinking blizzard pairs you with other people who drafted similar card quality. I've had amazing dr boom / reno decks go 4-3 then had a deck i literally wanted to redraft right after making it go 12-1
Ideas for the mechanic mentioned in the video 1 mana 4/5 battlecry reduce the cost of the next card your opponent plays by 2. 4 mana 9/9 battlecry reduce the cost of the next card your opponent plays by 3. 7 mana 15/15 battlecry the next card your opponent plays costs (0).
i think the arena score is widely off the mark there the deck is not amazing obviously but pretty much average for what you would expect in the arena. actually quite a bit of synergy too
Nathan Ritscherle he meant 15/16, there was a 1 in 16 that he drew flamestrike (assuming he only had one and didn't have something else impactful like deathwing etc etc
13:29 I do keep consecration against warlocks and pally in arena thoug, most of the time. And I do ok, but guess it's easy to argue is not the best mulligan.
Okay, can anyone explain how a person drawing flamestrike on the 4th turn he needed it is a topdeck. I mean that is like having to deal with a big minion and after 4 turn finally drawing your polymorph, is that a topdeck?
that flamestrike wasn't 1/16. he had 2 or 3 chances to draw it (that is,.I'm pretty sure he had 2 or 3 mystery cards in his hand from after you deduced that he had no flamestrike in hand). One could even say that he lost a 40% chance to draw the card on the few turns earlier when he needed it...
I've had 7 drafts rated below 60 by Heartharena. Makes me wonder how long or how much he's been tracking his runs, because I know he's played a shit ton more arena than I have. That's in 608 tracked arena runs for me.
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How does he see the ranks of the cards during the draft and the tips? Is it an option in the DeckTracker? Or another program? And how does he see the average score of his arena decks at the end of the draft?
Sometimes you keep consecration in the opening hand if you're going second. I believe Kripp's wrong on that point. Don't get me wrong, his play was clearly the best at that point, but keeping consec is not "never"
My best one is 69.5 and worst one 59.5, I feel like I should start recording my games because it's comedy gold the amount of shit luck I get. My friend spectates me and he just keeps laughing his ass off at some shit that happens to me while I just feel dead inside.
LOL, it doesn't even say "Worst deck" in the title, yet somehow you were quoting "worst deck". Maybe you should get some glasses. You're just correcting yourself in that second comment lmao.
Average deck score is just around or a smidgd blow 70? That I've only ever reached today's average three times ever, and only one of them in MOG. Normally my average in MOG is 5 lower than the rest of the world. Heck, my worst deck crafted using heartharena compared to the average was 57.9... Drafted last week and that's picking the best option available at all times. But I guess I'll just take my never lucky scrub ass and be happy with an average of about 4.45 wins. Because I look at Kripps "bad decks" and get disgustsd by how good the cards there is in them. Yet it is always funny to see Kripp get rolled over by decks better than his. Overall I am a great fan of the Kripperino, but the unjustified salt just makes the viewing experience just that bit sweeter. Have a good one Kripp, and I'll see you tomorrow.
What u mean worst draft ever? This is like average deckdrafts for me every time i do arena like no legendaries maybe an epic all cards are often bad get like 10 pretty good cards idk how u get much better deck than this tbh
![[Hearthstone] Casino Mage In Arena?!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lSGnmbvq65s/mqdefault.jpg)
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No Reno, yep.
Richerino Kripperino you don't have long for this world I'm 'fraid son
Richerino Kripperino you could of atleast tried to photoshop kripps face onto reno you lazy bum
KittyRabi look closer ya blind bum
Yeah bum, your photoshop skillz is terrible, now can somebody play me so we'll truly knows what RNG feels like.
+Mayorino Noggenfoggenerio Kripperino I play u and ur actually viable
0:04 - [Talkerino]
1:58 - I expected a little better...
4:05 - one tough Jaina
11:56 - going first and tempo
17:09 - a good result
This deck did exactly as well as Kripp's best deck ever...that says somethin right there.
Mathmachine all it says is the tier score used by heartharena isn't very good.
Mwuesse Not at all. There are a wide variety of factors that go into games-- the worst deck ever in history could go 12-0 off of 12 consecutive disconnects
The only factor that is important is that luck had nothing to do with it. Only that Kripp is the best and has to deal with opponents luck
It's not so much that the tier score isn't very good as much as the tier score is measuring only one aspect of the deck. Skill, synergy, and of course luck are also important, and the tier score doesn't measure that.
Infinity Sparks agreed but the fact it doesn't take synergy into consideration is what makes it bad. Ive had the same experiences as kripp where I've had insane mage decks by tier score not actually do very well yet have had went 6-3 with a 60 druid deck and 9-3 with a 61 rogue deck. its not just the synergy it doesn't account for but rather the overall balance of the deck. you can have all the board clears and premium spells but without the minions to back it up your deck can really suffer.
His "worst" deck is my usual deck on regular basis. Who's never lucky now?
Abuyin ibn Djadir Me
I know how you feel dude. I don't even use heartharena anymore.
Either youre really unlucky or youre really bad
Abuyin ibn Djadir same, man
I said 3 days ago.
Numbers are bullshit, or like Han Solo like to say,: " Never tell me the odds".
SPOILERINO:
He did 8 Wins with worst deck ever drafted, and 4 wins with the best.
That kind of mentality is how you lose though. I know, I feel the same way.
Constructed arena triggers me
1:58
Skipperino Kripperino Heyyy, thats pretty good.
evidence that kripp IS skipp.
PhooeyHuey It would make sense actually. "Hey guys, I've been trolling you, enjoy the clip and I'll see you tomorrow tomorrow."
Skipperino Kripperino Yeah
Skipperino Kripperino You suck I can still see kripperino
Two days later: "My worst Arena deck 'EVER'"
"I'll Likely Never Draft A Worse Deck"
Goes 8-3.
That's normally called player skill.
Skill in hearthstone my ass
+1 to the guy above me
moral of the story:
Draft fast cheap shit and zerg your opponent down, regardless of card quality.
He doesnt mean its the worst deck ever. He's just saying it has the lowest point value given to it by hearth arena.
Worst Deck Ever yet he gets 12-2
Zombie_Man u tricked me
0:04
pls no
jesus
Has science gone too far?
[Хартстоун] Я, скорее всего, никогда не соберу худшей колоды
Btw, I drafted a 58.5 deck last week. And it was one of my ~10 arena runs this year.So screw you, "never lucky" type a guy...
"Worst deck"
For me it's my average cards presented to me.
I can't believe Kripp thinks this is the worst deck he's drafted, it has a curve, it has synergy and some good cards and it's better than most of my decks...
Agreed
When I hear you talk about RNG draws in Hearthstone and tons of its bullshit, I remember Gwent and feel good. You really should try it, it's one of the most skill-based card games out there now I think.
ever considered drafting the worst deck of all times on purpose, just for shits and giggles?
Sir Mutantenkraken that would actually be worth a watch.
I would watch that.
*chat* draft arena
If fun challenges are what you want, you came to the wrong Hearthstone channel honestly.
and where can i go if i want those? is there a wild player? i'm searching for that shit for ages
"Tied for second worst deck" Title of video is click bait then? No?
The title doesn't refer to any of the past decks he's drafted.
Jordan Shirley - No? It says he'll likely never draft a deck worse than this one in the future, not that this is the worst deck he's drafted.
He says that the quality of Arena decks goes up over time, so it's entirely possible that he'll never draft a deck worse than this one going forward.
HashtagOctothorpe Seems kinda weird though since we just had a new expansion come out two weeks ago so wouldn't Arena power lever already be higher than his last "worst draft"?
My bad, misunderstood the tense he used.
Kripp is one of the last youtubers who doesn't clickbait
good job kripp keep it up
holy fuck the bird on his forehead
He Richard lawlz
best deck ever, wins 4 times.
worst deck ever, wins 8 times.
Kripp ya should draft bad decks. ya seem to be good at playing with trash :D
Viktor Vikeyev ya man ya for sure ya yayaya
Yep, aggression can just win you games in arena, I'll never forget that hunter deck trump drafted with murloc tinyfin that went 12/0
17:36 "Most of the cards that stand out get nerfed and never stand out again. The one exception to that is actually Leeroy." -Kripp 2016
He later admits that this was also the case with Auctioneer, BUT HE FORGOT ABOUT CHARRRRRGE.
tomorrows video....arena..the weekend videos....arena.....what kripps breath?......arena
I feel like he makes this same video once a week...
Daniel McLaughlin are you sure you didn't watch the stream?
60.1? Jeez, the lowest one I've ever drafted was 61.8. It was a Priest deck right after GvG came out, and somehow I managed a 5-3 out of it... then got a 2-3 on a 68.9 Paladin right after. Arena is weird.
Emily Plays ive had a 58.
Can't wait to see clips of this on saltiest kripp compilations.
Looks like a typical areana deck I draft to me...
yeah, now we need a Worsterino Kripperino, I feel like Kripp's gettin himself into memes on his own...
SKIPP THE KRIPP 1:59
is anyone gonna talk about how kripp will have 1 ad at the end of the video?
Good Guy Krip
"If you think those aren't good odds you're welcome to beat me in arena"
~Kripp 2016
ive been thinking blizzard pairs you with other people who drafted similar card quality. I've had amazing dr boom / reno decks go 4-3 then had a deck i literally wanted to redraft right after making it go 12-1
what addon or program do u use to see the card score when create an arena deck???
Ideas for the mechanic mentioned in the video
1 mana 4/5 battlecry reduce the cost of the next card your opponent plays by 2.
4 mana 9/9 battlecry reduce the cost of the next card your opponent plays by 3.
7 mana 15/15 battlecry the next card your opponent plays costs (0).
Have a Merry Xmas, Kripp! Looking forward to another year of great vids.
i think the arena score is widely off the mark there the deck is not amazing obviously but pretty much average for what you would expect in the arena. actually quite a bit of synergy too
what is the program he uses called???? the one that ranks the cards
ok thanks
What's the bar that pops up above the three cards when creating the deck? I don't have it when I'm starting a new Arena round
Yaaay, a monthly "worst deck ever" video! ResidentSleeper
That first game.. reminds me of Murphy's Laws.
To fix the 1st player advantage problem in arena, how about giving player 2 a second coin on turn four or five?
'Worst' deck Kripp ever drafts ✔
Average deck for everybody else ✔
Well its pretty clean at least !
Edit : kripp got me in the arena pack so best arena ever .
4:06
"I will take a 1 in 16 chance to win instantly?"
Really?
"1 / 16 = good odds" kripp 2016
Are you even mathing?
Hes obviously talking about 1/16 against him
Nathan Ritscherle he meant 15/16, there was a 1 in 16 that he drew flamestrike (assuming he only had one and didn't have something else impactful like deathwing etc etc
I know that. I was making a joke.
Thanks for explaining it bruh XDDD
I still see Kripp sitting under his table just talking to the camera
"I'll likely never draft a worse deck" just wait until the chat draft PogChamp
13:29 I do keep consecration against warlocks and pally in arena thoug, most of the time. And I do ok, but guess it's easy to argue is not the best mulligan.
17:50 If you count her as a 'problem', which she slightly has been at points imo, he's forgetting Sylvanas.
Luka Saracen also "charge" and "unleash the hounds" which are some of the few cards to have been nerfed/changed multiple times and were still played
Kripp, do the people working at Hearthstone every listen to your advice for upcoming sets?
That play at 14:20, I was like *moan* perfect board clear. Lol
What deck tracking/arena suggestion program is that?
Is the deck score the average of what the programm shows for each one?
Okay, can anyone explain how a person drawing flamestrike on the 4th turn he needed it is a topdeck. I mean that is like having to deal with a big minion and after 4 turn finally drawing your polymorph, is that a topdeck?
Just because you got a deck with no Nzoth doesn't mean its a bad deck smh.
"Almost impossible" - the gods of RNG see this as a challenge. You have marked yourself.
Which program is the one that shows the quality of the letter ?
i drafted 62 pts mage deck few hours ago. i was so disapointed that i imidiatly closed the game. no more HS for today.
8 and 3 with a bad deck seems pretty good, but what do I know, maybe it is also how one plays the cards in addition to the quality
What does he use to rate his cards in arena like how the ratings show up in the bottom right hand corner?
I don't play arena all that often but I've never drafted a deck that is 70+ points. My decks generally fall in the 62-67 poinst range.
in your opinion what is the lowest score u can draft if u pick Always the wrost card?
Sylvannas. Went from the best 5 drop in the game to the best 6 drop in the game and is still considered the best all around legendary.
i would like to see kripp do an arena where he only pic the worst cards with the hearth arena stats
that flamestrike wasn't 1/16. he had 2 or 3 chances to draw it (that is,.I'm pretty sure he had 2 or 3 mystery cards in his hand from after you deduced that he had no flamestrike in hand). One could even say that he lost a 40% chance to draw the card on the few turns earlier when he needed it...
what did he use to get the suggestions for picking cards?
"Hey guys hows it goin? Christmas here"
1:16 chance? Or if he had 2 flame strikes 1:8 chance, or additional blizzard. 1:5 chance.
I've had 7 drafts rated below 60 by Heartharena. Makes me wonder how long or how much he's been tracking his runs, because I know he's played a shit ton more arena than I have. That's in 608 tracked arena runs for me.
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I mean... I drafted a 58 point druid during KOTFT... it hurt so much
8:57 "Top deck flamestrike" lol like he wasn't waiting for it 3 turns
How does he see the ranks of the cards during the draft and the tips? Is it an option in the DeckTracker? Or another program?
And how does he see the average score of his arena decks at the end of the draft?
larryu1997 HearthArena overwolf
Thank you :)
Sometimes you keep consecration in the opening hand if you're going second. I believe Kripp's wrong on that point. Don't get me wrong, his play was clearly the best at that point, but keeping consec is not "never"
No Kazakus? No potions men
That reminds of how I won multiple games with a deck that had half of it auto-completed
what do you use for deck drafting ?
I can think of a worse deck. That deck you drafted for your "Best ever arena deck" video. Only got 4 wins, right?
DisturbedNeo He refers to his worst scored deck.
I have seen worse.
Mana Curve was ok and it had some card draw and late game minions.
Wal Rider most of the time the best rated decks end with no card draw and no curve and end up at 1-3
"Yeah that deck is really bad." Goes 8-3 with it. When I have a bad deck, I go 0-3... god damn...
Tends to happen when you pick slow cards.
execute is kinda like leeroy, used to be 2 mana, they made it 1 mana, then changed it back to 2
Does anyone remember the video where Kripp says he was against a "fork rogue"?
Next weeks video: I SWEAR, THIS DECK, THIS IS LIKE A 32 ARENA SCORE. 9 DUST DEVILS AND I'M PLAYING ROGUE
I like of how his BEST DECK went 4 wins, and he went double the wins with his worse deck. What the fuck.
My best one is 69.5 and worst one 59.5, I feel like I should start recording my games because it's comedy gold the amount of shit luck I get. My friend spectates me and he just keeps laughing his ass off at some shit that happens to me while I just feel dead inside.
Ok TH-cam... Why the fuck did I just get an AD for "The Boss Baby" ... in freakin' DANISH!
I love how a 60 point deck still does better than Amaz's 3 legendary decks
Can you please make a video about Drakonid Operative's overpowerness? This card is so op as shit
... My average deck is 62 this expansion...
''Worst deck''
*Gets 8 wins*
Must be annoying that selective hearing. He's talking about heartharena score, then says the deck performed well anyway.
Must be annoying that selective sight. I'm talking about the title, which states that this is a horrific deck.
LOL, it doesn't even say "Worst deck" in the title, yet somehow you were quoting "worst deck". Maybe you should get some glasses. You're just correcting yourself in that second comment lmao.
I'll likely never draft a worse deck means its his worst deck, in other words. You seem very triggered btw.
Also, the top comment right now also quotes the same thing. Aren't you gonna attack him too?
what's the software he use to choose cards in arena?
My balance meter says otherwise, how can it be the second worst deck if you got to 8-3?
Probably because, if it doesnt hit 12 wins for Kripp, it is considered shit no matter what
Woah, thank you for answering my own question!
No prob dude :)
its kinda funny, cus one of the best new skills in Poe, is called blade flurry
Average deck score is just around or a smidgd blow 70? That I've only ever reached today's average three times ever, and only one of them in MOG. Normally my average in MOG is 5 lower than the rest of the world. Heck, my worst deck crafted using heartharena compared to the average was 57.9... Drafted last week and that's picking the best option available at all times. But I guess I'll just take my never lucky scrub ass and be happy with an average of about 4.45 wins. Because I look at Kripps "bad decks" and get disgustsd by how good the cards there is in them. Yet it is always funny to see Kripp get rolled over by decks better than his.
Overall I am a great fan of the Kripperino, but the unjustified salt just makes the viewing experience just that bit sweeter. Have a good one Kripp, and I'll see you tomorrow.
My worst 2 are 58.5 and 58.7. But both were aggressive so they still went 6-3.
And here I am, drafting 10 decks sub 60...
He gets tips when drafting, is this work of a program like a tracker or the game itself?
What u mean worst draft ever? This is like average deckdrafts for me every time i do arena like no legendaries maybe an epic all cards are often bad get like 10 pretty good cards idk how u get much better deck than this tbh
hmmm, a card that has tons of stats but gives the opponent mana discounts...
so basically venture co mercenary
E_M_E_T not really, a card like that would make your opponents combo deck a lot better whereas venture co doesn't
more like the 2 mana 4/4
It's funny and sad, because I feel right now a 20 mana Molten Giant would not be overpowered, but they already nerfed it and it's never coming back...