Boss Katana vs Cry Baby Mini Wah Pedal - BOSS vs DUNLOP (Episode 4)
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the Boss Katana line of amps has a large library of built in effects. In this video series we will see how the built in FX compare with the actual pedal it is trying to recreate.
In this episode we are comparing the Dunlop Cry Baby Mini Wah pedal against the built-in Katana 100 PEDAL WAH FX.
I'll be using an M-Audio EX-P expression pedal. It is compatible with the Katana 100, and is the lowest priced expression pedal I've seen.
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Weird, I never had this issue with my Katana 100. Maybe it really is the pedal since I use the recommended Roland EV-5 into the GA-FC foot controller and never had any drops in volume. I really dig your series, keep it up it's great!
AnonymSuperhero hey thanks! ya I'll have to get my hands on the official boss expression pedal to try it out
'Nobody's paying me for this... I'm just havin' fun.' (Love it!)
+SuperNashwanPower sounds like something I'd say! 😊👍🎸
The problem could be boss tone studio being open. By that i mean that if you're not on a saved channel and editing it the software inside the amp gets confused and doesent know if you're trying to use it as a volume or wah pedal.
ok cool! thanks for the possible issue tip!
Good analysis. The main and driving feature of the Katana to me, is its' profitability, especially for meat and potatoes players like me. A lot of versatility in tones and developing very specific types of channels for specific purposes. A wah type of effect for me though is something that I like to use at the spur of the moment on any channel, kind of a 'global' effect. For that I think a separate pedal works best. Nothing can be everything, I guess, but the Katana gets the job done for me. I have it facing me, due to several comments about the volume I like to play at, as my stage monitor and run it through the direct out. Something that only took me 50 years to figure out. Have a good gig my friends, even when your home by yourself.
You can see that the expression pedal is giving a full sweep from 0 to 100 so it is working fine. Expression pedals don't affect tone, they only control defined perameters. The problem seems to be in the software. I would say though that the wah should be at the start of the chain. Putting it after the boost may be having an effect on volume when the wah is engaged after the boost.
For the record, I like the Dunlop better, although that Reso-wah *does* make me think I may need an expression pedal, too. Got my Katana 100 Artist Mk II three days ago, so I am still very much feeling my way around. Took me a day to work out how the damned 'double' knobs work, 'cause I is old.
how do you switch the wah on or is it always on??? There is no switch in my expression pedal
I can't recall that long ago :)
Nice t shirt!!! I have to get me a few! Great video Landon 🤙🏾
ha ya for sure! thanks!
Hi Landon, you don't know what you're doing. which is the humor I like about this channel.
And "Good possibillityl0lility" was a good one! :D Cheers and keep on having fun! XD
ha thanks! glad you like my reallllly drryyy humour 😁 it's not for everyone.
Just tried my 100w katana with an m audio ex-p pedal and it seems to work with the version 2 firmware without a volume drop on chain 3. I'm using a boost so not sure if that helps but the volume goes onto max when I click fx on the gafc with wah on. The m audio pedal works ok as long as you use the calibration on the side to make sure it gets the full range. I think it has a 12k pot which is slightly different from the 10k pot on the ev-5 but it seems close enough.
hey thanks for the info! I never thought of trying it again after the v2 update. that's good news thanks
Update please. How did it work after v2.
Not sure if it really matters but the Katana manual warns not to use other brands of expression pedals besides specific Roland-brand pedals. Manual says it can cause damage to the software. (Not sure if there's really a difference or if they are just trying to sell more Roland products)
It’s like your expression pedal wants to work as a volume pedal but the internal effect makes the wah effect kick in also. What happens if u plug pedal in and disengage the wah setting from effects chain and see if that controls volume like a volume pedal would effect a tube amp. Run through front and back too
ya I tried a bunch of settings and no luck. I would just stick with an official Boss expression pedal. :)
You got a GSS Shirt. Cool! & Wow forget about the m=audio using it internally. Any old Crummy Wah sounds at least that good & would be more consistent. So me thinks! Question,,, Has the software given you any grief in other areas?
+greatvanzinni ya GSS rocks! I don't just have the shirt, I have an episode th-cam.com/video/sNfWJTgnfV8/w-d-xo.html
But ya Im guessing the EXP is the issue as I havent had any other software issues
Cool. Somehow I missed he episode. Have to go watch now.
+greatvanzinni for sure! great series
It nice that the Katana has some wah effects built in but unfortunate you couldn’t get the M-Audio expression pedal to work with it.
ya for sure! I've been told the official Boss EV5 works with no issues
Not to be a complete dimwit, but where do you have the pedal plugged in? Is it straight into the exp pedal input? I'm trying to get a Behringer exp pedal to work on my Kat 100 and having zero luck. Probably just because it's a crap pedal.
hey there! I believe it was plugged into the exp input. I don't believe most non Roland exp pedals will work ok. I had issues too. 👍😁
Hey, Jeff. I had a behringer pedal that I sent back. It works perfectly in the FX input of the GA-FC pedal. Into the amp itself, it sometimes sees it as a switch as well as an expression pedal, which switches channels. Is probably what's up with this guys volume drops, I'd imagine.
Thx for the reply. I don't have the GA-FC, although it's on my wish list! The FCV100 pedal was actually switching my effects on and off as well! It was changing from the auto wah to tremolo or something. It also only seems to have any expression effect when my heel is almost completely down and the toe end of it is almost completely up. Sigh. Maybe it'll work on one of my other amps as a volume pedal.
I'm pretty sure that I went too cheap and got bit on the arse. Thanks for getting back to me. I freaking love this amp, so I guess I'm going to make the proper investments in accessories to actually work properly.
It is a damn fine amp. The M-Audio EXP expression pedal has worked out better for the katana for me. It only operates passively, which is all that's really needed when operating with the katana's volume rather than a separate volume before it. Also, the minimum volume dial actually works with it, unlike the behringer. It's the cheapest pedal on amazon too, so worth thinking about.
If it helps, I was warned to only use a Boss expression pedal or it could damage the Katana.
Thanks for the tip!
They probably just want you to buy the Roland one. An expression pedal is an expresion pedal, and any one should work with almost anything that supports it.
😂😂😂
That’s soo absurd! Translated it means “buy ours, spend money on us”
There's a video that does a certain setting which gets rid of the pedal acting as a volume control. Did it work for you? I'm planning to get the m audio pedal as well. Video on the following link: th-cam.com/video/Pup8RMdmSCc/w-d-xo.html
You crack me up dude ...love it ...could you tell me how connect up a volume pedal and a wah pedal to the GA FC, I have a boss FV 500. Do i need special cables etc. Thanks Sean from South Africa.
hey thanks! I don't know how those would connect. I would check out Boss/Roland official site and see if there is a user manual for GAFC. I did a video on the GAFC but didnt try the setup you are looking at. sorry! hope that helps
Lando27Music the manual just shows a pic of a TRS cable going from two pedals into the footswitch..but not from the guitar into the pedal or into the katana etc...if you know what I mean...🤦♂️🤦♂️
sorry don't know! I dont own the amp or pedal anymore. It was just for the video last year. hope someone else can answer
Did you ever get the official Boss expression pedal? If so, did it work better?
I didn't, hopefully someone else that has can reply to this. :)
Thanks for the reply. I ended up finding a great deal on a Crybaby ($30 U.S.), so I ended up going that way.
The rezowah sounds like a Morley! Remember the old chrome ones?
I will look for it
Wow man!!! The video you've promised. I think that the problem with the volume could be related with the device. As I told you before I bought an ev-30 dual expression pedal and it works great, also your chain selected may not be the perfect fit. Let me check out my preset and I'll give You some news.
chantorfo I blame the pedal at this point. But more likely it's just me being an idiot! 😁 anyways let me know what you find
lando27music I Believe I use crybaby at the FX of the Delay/FX knob with chain #2
perfect thanks!
chantorfo i was about to go the cheap m audio way but i think the ev-30 it is. Thanks dudes
Hi, I've just got the Ev-30 and I cant get the pedal position in the Pedal Wah, so go above 3. An ideas on what I am doing wrong?
The direct max try it between 80 or 100
don't recall what that means :)
Reading other forums I don't think many pedals will work correctly other than the EV-5. This one is claimed to work www.thomann.de/gb/lead_foot_lfx1.htm
cool thanks! the m-audio EXP kinda worked :)
You have your direct mix at 0, I tink that's why you don't have that much sound...
Good find, hope that helps someone :)
I have a well-reviewed expression pedal that sounds like crap with Tone Studio. I think their way software just sucks.
Great series, my problem the software has never connected to the amp. Seems like there are plenty of issues. But i love the amp.
Hey thanks! Just make sure you install the hardware driver and the software. I remember there being two parts to it
@@landonbailey i finally figured out the problem, you have to give permision for the microphone on the computer and it poped right up.
Turn up your direct mix knob for the effect.
Do you have already try the "GT FX floorboard" hack (not really hack)? It's a GT100 editor modified for the Katana series. It allows you to use more fx in the same time and more routing options too! The link in case you want to try (it's a safe software, no risk for the amp or computer): sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/experimental/?SetFreedomCookie
cool no I haven't done that. thanks for the info
Light wah = optical wah? Maybe!
+Andrew Fee ya possibly
haha threes comany wah !
'we've been waiting for you':)
I ve Danlup cry baby ! What ever i did still no voice ! Get crazy 🥺😫😖😶😐
Waste of time
you are correct