Conservative Vector Fields // Vector Calculus

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  • @BrittniHamilton
    @BrittniHamilton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I am currently taking Calc. 3 online and your videos have saved me this semester. Thank you so much for breaking these concepts down in such a graspable way. You are the reason I am going to pass and with an A.

  • @Ferdimitry
    @Ferdimitry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Even your shirt is teaching! Great explanation as always. Your videos have been of great help to me lately. I will always be grateful. Thanks Dr. Trefor

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha, I love that T-shirt. Glad I've been helping:)

  • @nathanjiang100
    @nathanjiang100 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good luck!

    • @nathanjiang100
      @nathanjiang100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrTrefor thanks! I'm sitting here with the videos on one side and my textbook on the other side so I can do the practice problems after each section is finished. working out great so far and I'm going to do some the chapter review problems at the end after I finish all the sections I need to. My teacher's homework guide goes through this chapter even though we didn't get to it in class, so that's helping me gauge how much practice I need to do.

  • @ricardobautista-garcia8492
    @ricardobautista-garcia8492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nice!

    • @oximas-oe9vf
      @oximas-oe9vf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @ricardobautista-garcia8492
      @ricardobautista-garcia8492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oximas-oe9vf Mechanical. You?

    • @oximas-oe9vf
      @oximas-oe9vf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Engineering, I am a first year student so I haven't specialized yet
      thinking of Mechatronics or Computer Engineering though.

  • @allison5169
    @allison5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @gonderage
    @gonderage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

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    @RajeevVerma-su6hs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hope it helps!

  • @Darkev77
    @Darkev77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    @amritas2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @yagof6365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @eriche8760
    @eriche8760 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Eric! Hope your semester is going well:)

  • @items365
    @items365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:20 the work done by gravity will be zero. As the work done is F.dr and in x axis there is no field and in y axis there is no displacement and DR u gave the formula to be F.dx + F.dy from a to b. Wrote this for my revision. Thank You Dr. For this lovely playlist

  • @evezhang9596
    @evezhang9596 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @tasninnewaz6790
    @tasninnewaz6790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will! Should be 2-3 vids per week coming out in vector calculus:)

  • @anikethdesai
    @anikethdesai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ending kinda explains as to why in Physics, we say Conservative Fields are the ones who has the power to create some sort of a Potential Energy in a body. For example, Gravitational Potential, Spring Potential etc. Apart from that, we do learn that
    F = ∇U where F is any field and U is its Potential

  • @fatjoewiseman4445
    @fatjoewiseman4445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you!!

  • @oliverrosol2706
    @oliverrosol2706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the gravity example, the work done is unaffected by the velocity field due to no change in the gravitational potential energy. So a conservative field is one where the line integral is unaffected by the velocity field?

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Velocity fields and force fields are two separate fields altogether. Even non-conservative force fields are not necessarily affected by velocity fields.
      A conservative field means that a closed-loop path has a line integral of zero. Applied to reality, this means that if the field represents a force, that it is a zero sum game to take a closed loop path through the field, as it does no net work on you. There is an exchange of energy between potential and kinetic, but no sources or sinks of energy to allow it to enter or leave the mechanical domain. Assuming all other forces are zero work forces.
      In other words, it is impossible to walk uphill both ways. One way is has a net uphill, and the other way has a net downhill, or both ways are net neutral. If you could walk uphill both ways, in a hypothetical alternate reality, this means that there is an alternative path that would allow you to walk downhill both ways.

    • @oliverrosol2706
      @oliverrosol2706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carultch In what way is the line integral equal to zero; do you mean the magnitude is equal to zero? Or do you mean if you treat it as a vector and partially differentiate it, it will be equal to zero because ▽F = 0? And if so (if there is a change in potential energy), wouldn’t the gradient be of a non-zero value? But I understand the concept of a conservative field that there is no energy leakage in the system.

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverrosol2706 To recap:
      Vector field: F(x, y) =
      Path: circle of radius 1, starting at the (0, 1) and proceeding clockwise
      Potential function: f(x, y) = x^3 - 2*y^2 + K
      Line integral outcome, prior to applying bounds: W = [sin(t)^3 - 2*cos(t)^2] from t1 to t2
      Notice the similarity between the potential function, and the indefinite line integral? I don't even need to evaluate both of them, because they both ultimately are the same function. One is of t, and the other is of x and y. I'd consider this to be luck that it turned out exactly this way, but it is expected that the two will be related.
      Onward with the evaluations:
      For t = 0 to pi/2, which is from the 12 O'clock to 3 O'clock position:
      W = (-1) - (-2) = +1
      For t=pi/2 to pi, i.e. 3 O'clock to 6 O'clock:
      W = (-2) - (-1) = -1
      For t=pi to 3*pi/2, i.e. 6 O'clock to 9 O'clock:
      W = (-3) - (-2) = -1
      For t=3*pi/2 to 2*pi, i.e. 9 O'clock to 12 O'clock:
      W = (-2) - (-3) = +1
      Add it all up, and as expected, we get zero.
      During the first quadrant of this path, the field does positive work. The next two quadrants, it does negative work. Finally, the final quadrant has positive work, returning us to net work of zero. The field is pushing on the object during the parts when it does positive work, and an agent would need to push the object against the field when it does negative work.
      The line integral is ultimately the integral of the dot product, of the vector field and the infinitesimal segment of the path. So a dot product of the field and the velocity, that we then integrate with respect to time t. If the field is aligned with our movement, it does positive work, if the field opposes our movement, it does negative work. This field does both, and on net, the work adds up to zero.

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverrosol2706 My comment disappeared. Anyway, what I did was derive how a line integral would be set up, for the given F(x, y) and a circular path of radius 1, that is clockwise from (0, 1). Here's some key information.
      Radius vector of the path:
      r =
      Corresponding velocity vector:
      dr/dt =
      The line integral is:
      W = integral F(x, y) dot dr/dt * dt
      Thus:
      W = integral dot dt
      W = integral (3*x^2 * cos(t) + -sin(t)*(4*y)) dt
      Substitute in x and y terms from original r-vector function, and simplify:
      W = integral(3*sin^2(t)*cos(t) - 4*sin(t)*cos(t)) dt

  • @rodionraskolnikov6989
    @rodionraskolnikov6989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation!

  • @altuber99_athlete
    @altuber99_athlete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Actually, electric fields are non-conservative if they're time-variant. Static charges (zero current) and constant currents (DC circuits in steady-state) are associated with conservative electromagnetic fields, while time-varying currents (such as AC circuits) are associated with non-conservative electromagnetic fields.
    Besides that, good video! :)

    • @Michael748159263
      @Michael748159263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you an electrical engineer ;o

    • @altuber99_athlete
      @altuber99_athlete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Michael748159263 Yep. 🤔

    • @Michael748159263
      @Michael748159263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@altuber99_athlete You smart, I quit that shit within 2 months. Now I'm doing mechanical engineering studies (;

    • @entropyz5242
      @entropyz5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Michael Chen I’m sure you’ll find out that mechanical engineering is by no means any less difficult. Source: I am a mechanical engineer.

  • @AeroDucation
    @AeroDucation 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is dt in the integration is it time? Please help me I am very confused

  • @ogunsadebenjaminadeiyin2729
    @ogunsadebenjaminadeiyin2729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super vidéo.

  • @cesarmoreno987y
    @cesarmoreno987y ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great explainer!

  • @anfazdemha
    @anfazdemha ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @imaginary8168
    @imaginary8168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did F(r(t)) reduce to just ?
    Shouldn't it be -h(t) instead?

  • @quoraexpert6295
    @quoraexpert6295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    can you talk about liberal vector fields?

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wut?

    • @quoraexpert6295
      @quoraexpert6295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxwellsequation4887 the opposite of conservative, politically, is liberal

  • @tadiwanashemavetera7530
    @tadiwanashemavetera7530 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @0verrun292
    @0verrun292 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where did you buy your shirt from?

  • @tarmo4435
    @tarmo4435 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might be stupid questions, but as math student i dont understand much about physics. Could some one explain why gravitation has no curl? Should the gravitation pull towards the center of the mass of an object? For example people can stand at the north and south pole of the globe.

  • @andyralph9495
    @andyralph9495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The curl or the circulation density for a conservative field is zero....which is obvious from the green's theorem....but what significance does this have physically?

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is mostly another way to rephrase the concept of path independence. From stokes theorem you can plug in the curl of the conservative field being zero to get the circulation around any closed loop is zero

  • @oviya.n1317
    @oviya.n1317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @HasanKeshtkar-io4em
    @HasanKeshtkar-io4em ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, how can I have video slides?

  • @momen8839
    @momen8839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    second comment.
    in video about flux and circulation you imagin field F=X+Y as velocity field and as fountain ..my question is what is the physical quantity that flux measure?
    its unit is m^2/s however flow in physics have a unit of m^3/s?

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The issue is we've been doing thing in 2D for now, largely to build intuition in the simpler situation, but will upgrade to 3D in a few videos from now. You can still think of it as m^3/s if you think the surface of water where the field is just constant in the z direction, i.e. all moving in the same way.

    • @momen8839
      @momen8839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor thanks can you draw a diagram that concider z constant ,please?

  • @briendamathhatter816
    @briendamathhatter816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    btw, what's up with the audio on recent vids? Kinda hurts my ears

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sigh, I hate audio:(

    • @briendamathhatter816
      @briendamathhatter816 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrTrefor So I take it that's a "I'm not too sure myself" ah, it's so much of the experience. We need someone who's whole schtick on youtube is helping other youtubers fix audio issues with worked examples.

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    @aleynakorkut7679 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ARM26878
    @ARM26878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @leadtoexemplify
    @leadtoexemplify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got little confused or lost in this video. I think we have to assume that an object or particle moves under the influence of the field on its own and takes different paths from one point to another rather than me moving it. am I missing something?

  • @carlosmgonzalez-benitez2594
    @carlosmgonzalez-benitez2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get that shirt!?

  • @Abhi-mu2cy
    @Abhi-mu2cy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think over large scale the field may not be conservative because the gravitational force varies in different points so there will be no perfect negative components to cancel and just give work done for shortest distance

    • @carultch
      @carultch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Newtonian gravity, as long as all bodies are moving slow, relative to the speed of light, gravity is conservative at any given snapshot in time. If the sources of gravity are moving, you may find apparent closed paths through gravity with net work done, but it really isn't a closed path, since the energy came from the KE of the source bodies of the field, and the initial conditions are not perfectly restored. Look up gravitational slingshot.
      With relativistic effects, there is a non-conservative behavior to gravitational fields called gravitomagnetism.

  • @giladgang573
    @giladgang573 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video! btw where is the shirt from?

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    @clintjohnson355 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    @niveditavenu1316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @DrTrefor
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    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!:)

  • @SuperDeadparrot
    @SuperDeadparrot ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed a negative sign: Given F( x, y ) then work = -\int( F . dr ) .

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  • @Mac_n_CheeseSauce
    @Mac_n_CheeseSauce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    @jasonfrimpong7208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    @amanravan9795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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    @carolynlambert8797 ปีที่แล้ว

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    @sergiolucas38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @ilovekdrama4207
    @ilovekdrama4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Sir, what does ‘ net flow is zero’ mean in vector calculus?

    • @gustavgille9323
      @gustavgille9323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That the integral of the curve is zero through the vector field

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    @ayushchauhan_1561 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @hidetsuguhiraki2008
    @hidetsuguhiraki2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good example to explain potential function. Thank you, Sir.

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    @halfameerkat1296 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @KalleKalas-r1v
    @KalleKalas-r1v 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor audio quality

  • @boredidiot1640
    @boredidiot1640 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about a socialist field?