Kinetic cyclic scissors

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  • Joint work with Kyle VanDeventer.
    Read our paper: archive.bridgesmathart.org/20...
    Instructions and files for printing and making one of these grids at www.printables.com/model/1779...
    This research was partially supported by the Koslow Undergraduate Mathematics Research Experience Scholarship.
    00:00 Introduction
    00:19 Self-similar quadrilateral tilings
    00:45 Scissor grids
    00:55 Can the grid always move?
    01:44 What's going on in general
    04:06 Cyclic quadrilaterals
    04:36 Example: 6/12/8/9
    05:08 Example: 1-1 path
    06:16 Example: 1-2 path
    07:02 Outro

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  • @MushookieMan
    @MushookieMan ปีที่แล้ว +1052

    That's one hell of a back-scratcher

    • @numoru
      @numoru ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Your mom

    • @somerand0mpers0n
      @somerand0mpers0n ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Your biological mother

    • @Periwinkleaccount
      @Periwinkleaccount ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your biological maternal figure

    • @NepYope
      @NepYope ปีที่แล้ว +34

      i read ball scratcher

    • @LiamWallsIsRad
      @LiamWallsIsRad ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The phrase you're looking for is "head scratcher". ;-)

  • @magnus0017
    @magnus0017 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    Such a cool thing, might try building one of these. Also, good job embracing the goofiness Kyle!

    • @powerbanger69
      @powerbanger69 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's a giga Chad lol

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But it's only in two dimensions! If you had ball-and-socket joints, you could have a 3D mechanism. You could certainly DRAW it, although MAKING it would need some care.

    • @simonmultiverse6349
      @simonmultiverse6349 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the kind of thing which would be really useful on the international space station. Something would fold up to be really small (fold up smally? small-ly?), and would unfold so that you could hang your washing out to dry. Also a radio antenna.

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonmultiverse6349 that sounds super cool. I wanna see a 3D one now

  • @williamrutherford553
    @williamrutherford553 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    Of all the things you've talked about, this one seems like it could have the most practical applications. Reminds me of those origami solar panels!

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety ปีที่แล้ว +108

    This is really interesting. It’s cool that such relatively simple original results are still out there waiting to be found.

  • @VagabondTE
    @VagabondTE ปีที่แล้ว +323

    If you placed a pencil on a single scissor column do you get interesting spirals? Could a stencil or drafting curve of that spiral make this sort of tiling easy to draw on paper?

    • @JacobPlat
      @JacobPlat ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Like a pantograph?

    • @kylevandeventer1037
      @kylevandeventer1037 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Ohh that’s an interesting thought. I can make an animation and come back to you

    • @VagabondTE
      @VagabondTE ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@JacobPlat LOL yeah, I think so. Though I think it would skew the image it was graphing. That would be really cool if it did, but it's hard for me to visualize.

    • @VagabondTE
      @VagabondTE ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've been thinking about making a stencil for these spiral patterns (I forget what they're called, 1:3 spirals?) It's difficult to wrap my head around but I'm not sure if it would work. You might need two to get all the points and I think it would only do one very specific image. I can't tell.

    • @lumotroph
      @lumotroph ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes please! @kylevanderventer please make it so with animations but then real world too!

  • @meljXD2
    @meljXD2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m a trees for the forest type of guy and the concept of quadrilaterals blew my mind when I was younger and and again when learning about angles. I had big interest in how the world works, but I was so caught up in the separate concepts that I didn’t think to look at them as a whole. Would’ve made school a lot more bearable if I just thought more like that.

  • @THarSul
    @THarSul ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that mechanism reminds me of those expanding/contracting sphere toys made of a series of linear scissor-mechanisms connected at the ends; this feels like the same concept, but stretched across a 2D plane.

  • @AdrianHereToHelp
    @AdrianHereToHelp ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how genuinely excited they seem about presenting this thing they've been working on. It's infectious.

  • @edwardlulofs444
    @edwardlulofs444 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wow! Spectacular. Even children should be able to appreciate the beauty. What a way to draw students into the fun of math. Thank you.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this channel is my secluded happy place. thank you

  • @DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop
    @DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow! it's amazing that a bit of math can create something so mesmerizing, probably even to people with little interest in or knowledge of math. If one of these would hang outside the maths room in a school, with a servo coiling it back and forth, it would surely spark some kids interest.

  • @moontiger6393
    @moontiger6393 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The motion is so smooth, I love it

  • @melissasabie722
    @melissasabie722 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The laugh at the end got me! 😅 I love howuch fun you guys had! 😊 And thank u for sharing your knowledge!

  • @hollt693
    @hollt693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the first I've heard of Kyle, but he is now officially my second-favorite van Deventer.

    • @siredav
      @siredav ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is your favourite van Deventer an inventor and puzzlemaker?

    • @hollt693
      @hollt693 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@siredav Yes indeed! Oskar van Deventer. For a moment, I wondered if Kyle wasn't Oskar's kid or something, kind of like George and Vi Hart. But considering I can't seem to find any connection between them other than last name and similar fields of interest, it seems unlikely.

    • @kylevandeventer1037
      @kylevandeventer1037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m honored :)

  • @r3n5h0r3
    @r3n5h0r3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're definitely one of my favorite TH-cam channels. I watch your content and feel like I've finally found my people.

  • @Th3Curs3dChild
    @Th3Curs3dChild ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This really looks like it could have some weird folding real-life applications! Also, good video

  • @ShaunakDe
    @ShaunakDe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for making this video. I really loved the calm, informed style and the content!

  • @columbus8myhw
    @columbus8myhw ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It would be interesting to see an animation where you've drawn all the circumscribing circles

  • @aajpeter
    @aajpeter ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic. Pleasant, clear, and sincere presentation. Can't wait to print one

  • @DugGLe55FuR
    @DugGLe55FuR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing and for having fun

  • @sambillups8691
    @sambillups8691 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You were a great Calc 2 teacher back in the day. Love the video!

  • @michaeldeierhoi4096
    @michaeldeierhoi4096 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are really creative and ingenious.

  • @Life_42
    @Life_42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys are awesome!

  • @lutune
    @lutune ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for taking a complicated concept and showing both a physical, graphical, and mathematical example of this concept

  • @J_psi0
    @J_psi0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is actually really interesting! Thanks for sharing

  • @carly09et
    @carly09et ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing. This helps my understanding of real projective limits.

  • @blacksmith67
    @blacksmith67 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love this kind of stuff… good job guys

  • @AnkhAnanku
    @AnkhAnanku ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was fascinated by this sort of thing as a 13 year old playing with my Lego technic set.

  • @AmitKumar-xw5gp
    @AmitKumar-xw5gp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliantly amusing video.. good work there..

  • @staceyhart9746
    @staceyhart9746 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your kinetic cyclic scissors!

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amazing. looking foward to try this mindset on my machines

  • @noelhutchins7366
    @noelhutchins7366 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That machine is essentially what carries capillary pressures to a folding insect wing; able to deploy and furl itself from rigidity into halves of compact-beetle-wing's-case: most complexly found encasing ear-wig-wings', with a twenty-to-one ratio of surface-area deployed in flight, compared to wings'-encased; in scale, they're equivalent to properly folding a parachute for re-deployment without hands, in only seconds.

  • @goodluck5642
    @goodluck5642 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love linkages and so don’t understand them, making this video a joy. Cheers!

  • @appu5545
    @appu5545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome... Best thing I ever seen

  • @thiagozequim
    @thiagozequim ปีที่แล้ว

    great video. thanks for making it. thanks for sharing the knowledge

  • @ottav4
    @ottav4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome knowledge to learn, thank you.

  • @joshuakliveca
    @joshuakliveca ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool work guys!!!

  • @ryan65475
    @ryan65475 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good job Kyle!

  • @ericheydemann9556
    @ericheydemann9556 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, that's how I solve my problem !!
    Good work out of you !!

  • @srgyc
    @srgyc ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This seems like it could work for an ultra thin exoskeleton. Would be cool to see a wearable version!

    • @Unmannedair
      @Unmannedair ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's interesting you say that, because I had a similar idea. I've had this idea for nearly 6 years, it's cool to see it visualize though.

    • @brendawilliams8062
      @brendawilliams8062 ปีที่แล้ว

      A spider web

  • @proberush
    @proberush ปีที่แล้ว

    Simple yet profound, just the way I like my mathematics

  • @pamdemonia
    @pamdemonia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is very cool!

  • @atomicsmith
    @atomicsmith ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!

  • @dustinsysko
    @dustinsysko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for sharing your work in such a variety of forms we can engage with!
    Video with demonstration, a paper, and printable models.
    This kind of knowledge transfer really helps all of us learn, and teach others.

  • @LiamHighducheck
    @LiamHighducheck ปีที่แล้ว

    It feels cool to be seeing something that will get recommended to people in a few years less than a week after being posted.

  • @manoelguidialvares6903
    @manoelguidialvares6903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the TH-cam algorithm thought I'd find this vídeo interesting. And it is right. I love it! Subscribed :)

  • @dysphoricpeach
    @dysphoricpeach ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love this channel

  • @samaeltheangelofdeath
    @samaeltheangelofdeath ปีที่แล้ว

    That's smart to speed the video up, lesser steps, not info. Thank you for teaching, it means a lot to learn. Reading is too many steps, so just listening and watching is very enlightening

  • @simonstrandgaard5503
    @simonstrandgaard5503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @joanbennettnyc
    @joanbennettnyc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh YES to more of Kyle please.
    Head to toe and scissoring welcome.

  • @MrFranklitalien
    @MrFranklitalien ปีที่แล้ว +1

    terrific
    no doubt someone will find applications

  • @guillermogil3391
    @guillermogil3391 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!!

  • @maxnjax7294
    @maxnjax7294 ปีที่แล้ว

    flippen amazing
    tnx guys

  • @OwenWithAHammer
    @OwenWithAHammer ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool!

  • @filiagees
    @filiagees ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite interesting! When I was a kid, one teacher presented dynamic geometry stuff (using Cabri Geometre software), that was fascinating. Unfortunately, my school not had any of these scissors to play with, I would had loved to.
    Great video guys

  • @sendformilo620
    @sendformilo620 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting!

  • @pepurrmint
    @pepurrmint ปีที่แล้ว

    super cool!!

  • @Dreg_s
    @Dreg_s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No idea why TH-cam recommended this but I watched it. More videos bending scissors please

  • @ThevenimX
    @ThevenimX ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Im wondering if this could be reverse driven to apply tremendous amounts of of torque or shearing potential

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Anything can be backdriven if you manage to make it stiff enough.

    • @brandonkeeber3799
      @brandonkeeber3799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tissuepaper9962 that's what she said!

  • @rsehhandmade8854
    @rsehhandmade8854 ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool👍👍👍👍👍

  • @freesk8
    @freesk8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smart geometry nerds having fun! I love it! :)

  • @eliyasne9695
    @eliyasne9695 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderfull channel

  • @zh84
    @zh84 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very interesting and very clever, typically for you! Is Kyle van Deventer any relation to Oscar van Deventer, whom I have also seen on TH-cam?

    • @henryseg
      @henryseg  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No relation as far as we know.

    • @kylevandeventer1037
      @kylevandeventer1037 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Perhaps only in name 😅

    • @siredav
      @siredav ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for asking! I had the same question 😅

  • @Intrafacial86
    @Intrafacial86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *[Therapist]:* “Did you experience any childhood trauma?”
    *[Me]:* 0:19

  • @CjqNslXUcM
    @CjqNslXUcM ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool

  • @Let_Toons
    @Let_Toons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:36 You can make a "dancing doll" with this. Just cover with fabric, connect a plastic hand to the left and right loose vertices and a face in the top one, and let the bottom line exposed for moving.

  • @JulienDavid2024
    @JulienDavid2024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That’s hypnotic…

  • @flarephenix894
    @flarephenix894 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick dude

  • @fibbooo1123
    @fibbooo1123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I saw the start, and was like .... this means its cyclic, right? It was fun that my intuition was right, and reading the proof was even more so!

  • @silkywilky7913
    @silkywilky7913 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super Cool

  • @decodedbunny101
    @decodedbunny101 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's interesting that my young self thought about this and imagined how it would work.
    I think this was close to my imagination

  • @householdemail1305
    @householdemail1305 ปีที่แล้ว

    That be a really good jig holder.

  • @clerk427
    @clerk427 ปีที่แล้ว

    TH-cam recommendation algorithms sure are weird, though I can't complain, this was very interesting!

  • @strictnonconformist7369
    @strictnonconformist7369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This could be the basis for an interesting device on a control-style battlebot if it can be made sturdy enough: a major problem hit when trying to grapple another battlebot is they can’t be counted on to stay still long enough. In this case, say, what if a pneumatic cylinder were used to open close it, and something else to latch it and keep it deployed?
    It requires (at least the ones shown here) a lot of moving parts, which may not work well in the context of battlebots where the opponent is trying to destroy your battlebot in many different ways, but it’d be fun to try!

    • @AA-vr8ve
      @AA-vr8ve ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps if some kind of joint covering scale were to be used to protect it?

    • @strictnonconformist7369
      @strictnonconformist7369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AA-vr8ve perhaps. Of course, in BattleBots there’s a very fine line between useful parts and those you think will be of use that add to failure modes in actual battles.

  • @Felipemelazzi
    @Felipemelazzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad 3D printing has evolved to make building these a possibility

  • @sachs6
    @sachs6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm beginning to disagree with Leibniz. I think a great new toy is even better then a great new puzzle, because it is ever fruitful. Thanks!

  • @arnycsendes6652
    @arnycsendes6652 ปีที่แล้ว

    This reminds me of some fractals doing these symmetries.

  • @amydebuitleir
    @amydebuitleir ปีที่แล้ว

    I *need* these. The perfect fidget toy for a mathematician.

    • @henryseg
      @henryseg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Link in the description for instructions to 3D print and assemble one!

    • @amydebuitleir
      @amydebuitleir ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@henryseg I'm thinking this would be a great movable sculpture for a primary school, to get kids thinking about linkages and angles. I'd need to figure out a way to ensure that kids can't get their fingers caught in it. I guess you could put it behind plexiglass, and have external cranks to turn it.

    • @henryseg
      @henryseg  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amy de Buitléir That sounds like it would work. Although beware that the linkage isn't super "flat" - it would take up quite a bit of depth behind the plexiglass.

  • @chasemarangu
    @chasemarangu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned something today! 3:45 was a great explanation of the two classes of quadrilaterals that can create self-similar tilings. Cyclic quadrilaterals are very cool!
    EDIT: the only two classes of quadrilaterals that can create self-similar tilings which stay self-similar when you "scissor" them (change angle)

    • @henryseg
      @henryseg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Any quadrilateral can create a self-similar tiling. The parallelograms and cyclic quadrilaterals are the only ones whose scissor grids can move.

    • @chasemarangu
      @chasemarangu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@henryseg oops! Right. You did explain that earlier in the video. Anyways, this also got me thinking about the possibility to create circle packings from quadrilateral graphs instead of triangle ones

  • @Unmannedair
    @Unmannedair ปีที่แล้ว

    That would make one hell of an annular gate style door...

  • @NonTwinBrothers
    @NonTwinBrothers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos henry, but I kept getting distracted by the thought Kyle's gonna steal my wife if I'm not careful

  • @sisyphuscranerigging7792
    @sisyphuscranerigging7792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice effect! You could make a great Rivet Fan Spacer out of that - you know those things for making an evenly spaced rivet pattern on an airplane wing? Except the pattern is an ever-changing skeewumpus layout. Which makes it much better!

  • @pyrokinetikrlz
    @pyrokinetikrlz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that is pretty fucking cool!!

  • @HaveANceDay
    @HaveANceDay ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is there a 3d version of this theory?

  • @alexismiller2349
    @alexismiller2349 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is there a way to find this limit point? Like a ruler and compass construction?

    • @henryseg
      @henryseg  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good question! I’m not sure off the top of my head.

  • @UriclubTK
    @UriclubTK ปีที่แล้ว

    1:44 thank you scoobdy doo shaggy for your fantastic explanation

  • @mooncatcher_
    @mooncatcher_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May be good for deploying light sails for space travel.

  • @l8dawn
    @l8dawn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very cool! I'm wondering how the mechanical advantage shown here 1:17 can be utilized and optimized...

  • @auri1075
    @auri1075 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would probably be pretty useful for space exploration deployables. The space it would save would be quite important

  • @sam_bamalam
    @sam_bamalam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see how this compares to the parallelogram scissors

    • @Ruthavecflute
      @Ruthavecflute ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think parallelogram scissors would tend towards forming a straight line at the limits - no interesting curves.

  • @RexTorres
    @RexTorres ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't understand a thing but that's so cool! 😅

  • @AA-kt3qm
    @AA-kt3qm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jerma's long lost brother

  • @holypho6352
    @holypho6352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now do a video on kinetic cyclic rocks and papers!

  • @manyworldsin1
    @manyworldsin1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cube sat origami implementation here we come!

  • @JuanIgnacioAlmenaraOrtiz
    @JuanIgnacioAlmenaraOrtiz ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya quiero construir esto.

  • @squid1712
    @squid1712 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45 dudes lookin like he's about to ask for my strongest potions

  • @Benoit-Pierre
    @Benoit-Pierre ปีที่แล้ว

  • @Williamwerenberg
    @Williamwerenberg ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to make a door like that 😊👍

  • @PeterBarnes2
    @PeterBarnes2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't suppose that constant angular velocity in the mechanism might give non-constant speed at various points, would it? Because if it did, that could make for an efficient throwing mechanism.

  • @brandonyoung-kemkes1128
    @brandonyoung-kemkes1128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think these have application in spacecraft design specifically solar panels and other deployable‘s.