Hello Davie, Thank you for letting me watch the video immediately, it will be a great learning experience. I noticed the points, the formation of the brown mallard before use, the width and cutting method of the feather to be cut, steaming the feather and removing the curve, Partridge N series will be available this week, so I will practice tying while watching this video. Thank you very much, By Taki😀
Davie, of course, you're absolutely correct about using high quality feathers for this. That seems to be a big problem finding good Bronze Mallard feathers in the States this year. My usual source hasn't had any medium or large feathers for months. I finally found a source in Northern Canada but you'll pay the price in both time & coin to get them. Worth every penny, though. The Veniard's dealers here don't seem to carry these so this year, especially, it's been a struggle. GREAT VIDEO! - JT
Excellent technique for Spey style wing; as usual, you make it look so easy. The challenge is to find appropriate wing materials. I know most people will not fish these time consuming winged flies.. Having said that, could you possibly demo a married wing salmon fly of your choice. Years ago, the late Dick Talleur was doing married wing flies at a show, with goose shoulder feathers. Thank you Davie, for sharing your vast tying knowledge with us.
Great video Davie, I’ve tried it this way and tying them in separately and has mixed results with both. You hit it right when you said keep practicing!!
You truly are a magician with bronze mallard wings, I am reasonably happy with most of mine which just to make you aware was mostly due to you and your videos Lady Caroline and other spey's. I don't know what it was or is about this video but I am sure I can improve my wings or atleast make them slightly easier 👍 Thanks again Davie
Hi Davie - thanks for your messages telling me that I have won a prize (just checking to make sure that the messages are not some sort of 'scam'). Can you please confirm that I have won a prize.
I have to agree that a fly for the most part is only as good as the feathers or materials used to tie it, although I’ve seen you tie many a fly with farm chickens that turned out beautifully, so something has to be said about who’s hands those materials are in. I also think that a lot of it has to do with practice, practice, practice and the tier’s willingness to go slow, get it right, and go back again and again when they aren’t happy with the way their fly looks. You’re absolutely right that we all have our own personal preference in our flies and unless we are tying competitively, or for someone very particular about their flies, we should be tying to suit, and therefore the only person you have to make happy is yourself. With that being said I’ve seen folks be in such a hurry to just tie something up that they just whip something up only to complain about it after they have whip finished. In contrast, if I’m unhappy with what I’ve produced then there is no need to whip finish at all. As usual, I love the tips given on care of feathers and the mention of steaming and pressing them in an attempt to revive usable feathers that may be in rough shape. That singular tip saved me quite a bit of money when I was learning to tie wetfly wings from you about a year or so ago. As usual, thanks for everything you do for the fly tying and fishing community!
Hi Davie, I find I'm having to go through your video on Bronze Mallard Wings over and over. I seem to have hit a rough patch! I'm now taking snapshots and compiling them into a document, noting the finer points of your technique. Looking at your wing from eye to bend, it is pretty much shaped like this /\. Mine all have a kink halfway up the wing face along the length of the wing both sides. Maybe I'm tying the wing on top too much rather than slightly at the side of the tie in point? Maybe finger control isn't what it should be? Anyway great instruction as always. Repeating my mantra is practice, practice, practice...
Davie, have you ever tried a folded back and split mallard wing? Here’s how Kelson describes it: “Take two strips, say, of Mallard, both from the same side of the feather ; place one over and upon the other, so as to form one strip. Hold the fly in the left fingers by its loop. Place the strips so arranged on their backs, that their roots reach the throat hackle, with their points extending beyond the loop. Bind them down, headwords, from the throat hackle to half way along the space left for the wings. Now turn the fly round, and holding it in the usual way, bend the strips back over the work and body, pass the silk to the end of the shank, and with it make close coils, tailwards, up to and just upon the bent part of the wings. The object is to make the wings “sit up” in use. Put silk in catch ; divide the strips into two equal parts, and work the silk first between them, and then round, in and out, in a figure of eight fashion, and finish off with a double half-hitch on the body side of them. Varnish” it’s a little confusing with instructions for tying in hand and a difficult technique nonetheless, but there’s a good tutorial on classicflytying.net.
Like tying really elegant Catskill dries, or traditional feather winged streamers, it does come down to practice. Do a lot of something, you will get better at it. And yes, quality of materials helps a lot.
I seem to remember the old books instructing us to tie Spey wings the other way round, i.e. left slip, left wing, etc. (hope I got that right, but you know what I mean)It gives the wing a different, lower profile. You ever tie them that way? If so, any difference in technique? Not easy getting practice if the feathers are expensive and hard to come by!
One question though Davie, where would you suggest that I look for spey style hooks at a reasonable price that are of a quality you wouldn’t mind practicing on? I know that a lot of what I’ve seen and read about regarding these hooks is that the better ones are custom hooks, many coming out of Japan, is this correct? I was finally able to source some quality bronze mallard here in the States this year while recovering from another surgery and intend to begin tying them with the help of your instruction like last year. Thanks again
Davie this may be a stupid question. I think the price we pay for bronze mallard feathers is extortionate and I am seriously thinking of trying to dye wigeon or teal flank feathers a dark brown colour as a cheap substitute. Have you every done this and do you think it would work?
Hi Jussi, It's very close to the Black King, I just quickly threw the body together for showing the wing..I am glad you enjoyed the video.. All the very best Davie..
I have had same scammer contact suggesting using Telegram to contact you. Sorry this has happened; we are surrounded by evil cyber troublemakers. Thank you Davie.
I’ll work on that but I’m so ham handed don’t think I’ll ever have that touch. But that trash part of the feather. Could that be used for horns. Maybe the marginal stuff for rolled wings on wets. Just hate waste. Thanks.
Hi Michael, Both sides of the bronze mallard feathers are great for horns, Lay the stiffer fibres on to some soft hen or cock hackle fibres as this is a great way of getting a nice wing as I have done this many times over the years to use them up.. All the very best Davie
URGENT - Davie I have been contacted through your channel which I now believe is by SCAMMERS saying that I have won one of your prizes - I suggest that this is something you need to look into urgently.
Hi Alan, I woke up this morning with an email from a friend from Australia asking if I was looking for him and that I had messaged him..I then found out that many that had been commenting on my videos had been messaged by a cloned channel of me asking for them to contact them..So straight away I blocked and reported the channel and as well spent a long time looking through many of my videos deleting them..So hopefully I have sorted this out though I do need TH-cam now to delete this made up account..Many thanks for getting in touch.. All the very best Davie
@@DavieMcPhail Hi again Davie, I am still wondering about the SCAM - do you think it is worth you posting a short video warning your fans (subscribers) that if they receive an email asking them to contact you using 'Telegram' app they should ignore the message? Cheers. Alan.
Hi Alan, Just to let you know I just posted a video warning everyone about the fake channel, I should have done this sooner so thank you for encouraging me to do this...All the very best Davie..
Hi Davie, I've been enjoying your videos for a long time. A QUESTION: are the Veniard small bronze shoulder packs suitable for wet wings around size 6? Thanks
One of the most difficult things to do in fly tying in my opinion. You made it look so so easy. Thanks Davie. Great video👍
Thank you for the video! Bronze Mallard has been tormenting me!
Hello Davie,
Thank you for letting me watch the video immediately, it will be a great learning experience.
I noticed the points, the formation of the brown mallard before use, the width and cutting method of the feather to be cut, steaming the feather and removing the curve,
Partridge N series will be available this week, so I will practice tying while watching this video.
Thank you very much,
By Taki😀
Awesome, I do agree. The better the feathers, the easier this style of wing is to do.
Thanks Davie, well explained and demonstrated, brilliant 👌
Davie, of course, you're absolutely correct about using high quality feathers for this. That seems to be a big problem finding good Bronze Mallard feathers in the States this year. My usual source hasn't had any medium or large feathers for months. I finally found a source in Northern Canada but you'll pay the price in both time & coin to get them. Worth every penny, though.
The Veniard's dealers here don't seem to carry these so this year, especially, it's been a struggle. GREAT VIDEO! - JT
Every day’s a school day. Thank you Davie.👏
Excellent technique for Spey style wing; as usual, you make it look so easy. The challenge is to find appropriate wing materials. I
know most people will not fish these time consuming winged flies.. Having said that, could you possibly demo a married wing
salmon fly of your choice. Years ago, the late Dick Talleur was doing married wing flies at a show, with goose shoulder feathers.
Thank you Davie, for sharing your vast tying knowledge with us.
Great video Davie, I’ve tried it this way and tying them in separately and has mixed results with both. You hit it right when you said keep practicing!!
You truly are a magician with bronze mallard wings, I am reasonably happy with most of mine which just to make you aware was mostly due to you and your videos Lady Caroline and other spey's. I don't know what it was or is about this video but I am sure I can improve my wings or atleast make them slightly easier 👍
Thanks again Davie
Great technique Davie thanks for sharing
Great tutorial Mr McPhail. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Superb tutorial Davie.
Smashing fly Davie, excellent video
I really like the look of the Spey flies - will have a go at tying some - Thank you.
Thanks for your reply.
Hi Davie - thanks for your messages telling me that I have won a prize (just checking to make sure that the messages are not some sort of 'scam'). Can you please confirm that I have won a prize.
Basically another brilliant video. Your touch and skills are beyond lots of us lashers. Still, it’s nice to watch the best. Cheers
Those are so hard to tie, but when you do it right, it is very rewarding.
I have to agree that a fly for the most part is only as good as the feathers or materials used to tie it, although I’ve seen you tie many a fly with farm chickens that turned out beautifully, so something has to be said about who’s hands those materials are in.
I also think that a lot of it has to do with practice, practice, practice and the tier’s willingness to go slow, get it right, and go back again and again when they aren’t happy with the way their fly looks. You’re absolutely right that we all have our own personal preference in our flies and unless we are tying competitively, or for someone very particular about their flies, we should be tying to suit, and therefore the only person you have to make happy is yourself. With that being said I’ve seen folks be in such a hurry to just tie something up that they just whip something up only to complain about it after they have whip finished. In contrast, if I’m unhappy with what I’ve produced then there is no need to whip finish at all. As usual, I love the tips given on care of feathers and the mention of steaming and pressing them in an attempt to revive usable feathers that may be in rough shape. That singular tip saved me quite a bit of money when I was learning to tie wetfly wings from you about a year or so ago. As usual, thanks for everything you do for the fly tying and fishing community!
Beautiful fly Davie!
A beautiful looking fly. I love those elegant salmon (?) hooks. :-)
Excellent fly tying 👀🇺🇸
Great video ive watched several times
Skilfully explained instruction! 👌
Great tutorial! Very informative!
did I need this. I gave up on bronze mallard long ago. Now I'll try again. thanks Davie
got this suspicious looking request to dm you. I didn't think it was legit. Thought you should know.
I did enjoy it, Davie... thank you
MIke
That was very interesting. Thank you 🤙
Thanks Davie 😃 I’ll keep trying 🤪 did some dark mackerels and the wings came out alright on them 😊
Very helpful, thank you!
Hi Davie, I find I'm having to go through your video on Bronze Mallard Wings over and over. I seem to have hit a rough patch! I'm now taking snapshots and compiling them into a document, noting the finer points of your technique. Looking at your wing from eye to bend, it is pretty much shaped like this /\. Mine all have a kink halfway up the wing face along the length of the wing both sides. Maybe I'm tying the wing on top too much rather than slightly at the side of the tie in point? Maybe finger control isn't what it should be? Anyway great instruction as always. Repeating my mantra is practice, practice, practice...
Davie, have you ever tried a folded back and split mallard wing? Here’s how Kelson describes it: “Take two strips, say, of Mallard, both from the same side of the feather ; place one over and upon the other, so as to form one strip. Hold the fly in the left fingers by its loop. Place the strips so arranged on their backs, that their roots reach the throat hackle, with their points extending beyond the loop. Bind them down, headwords, from the throat hackle to half way along the space left for the wings. Now turn the fly round, and holding it in the usual way, bend the strips back over the work and body, pass the silk to the end of the shank, and with it make close coils, tailwards, up to and just upon the bent part of the wings. The object is to make the wings “sit up” in use. Put silk in catch ; divide the strips into two equal parts, and work the silk first between them, and then round, in and out, in a figure of eight fashion, and finish off with a double half-hitch on the body side of them. Varnish” it’s a little confusing with instructions for tying in hand and a difficult technique nonetheless, but there’s a good tutorial on classicflytying.net.
Like tying really elegant Catskill dries, or traditional feather winged streamers, it does come down to practice. Do a lot of something, you will get better at it. And yes, quality of materials helps a lot.
Thank you Davie
Большое спасибо вам Davie за обзор,всегда есть чему поучиться у вас.🤝
Nice work!
I seem to remember the old books instructing us to tie Spey wings the other way round, i.e. left slip, left wing, etc. (hope I got that right, but you know what I mean)It gives the wing a different, lower profile. You ever tie them that way? If so, any difference in technique?
Not easy getting practice if the feathers are expensive and hard to come by!
One question though Davie, where would you suggest that I look for spey style hooks at a reasonable price that are of a quality you wouldn’t mind practicing on? I know that a lot of what I’ve seen and read about regarding these hooks is that the better ones are custom hooks, many coming out of Japan, is this correct? I was finally able to
source some quality bronze mallard here in the States this year while recovering from another surgery and intend to begin tying them with the help of your instruction like last year. Thanks again
Davie this may be a stupid question. I think the price we pay for bronze mallard feathers is extortionate and I am seriously thinking of trying to dye wigeon or teal flank feathers a dark brown colour as a cheap substitute. Have you every done this and do you think it would work?
Thank you so much for this, I've had trouble tying those mallard wings every now and then. Is the fly you tied a black king?
Hi Jussi,
It's very close to the Black King, I just quickly threw the body together for showing the wing..I am glad you enjoyed the video..
All the very best Davie..
Masterclass in Bronze
I have had same scammer contact suggesting using Telegram to contact you. Sorry this has happened; we are surrounded by
evil cyber troublemakers. Thank you Davie.
I’ll work on that but I’m so ham handed don’t think I’ll ever have that touch. But that trash part of the feather. Could that be used for horns. Maybe the marginal stuff for rolled wings on wets. Just hate waste. Thanks.
Hi Michael,
Both sides of the bronze mallard feathers are great for horns, Lay the stiffer fibres on to some soft hen or cock hackle fibres as this is a great way of getting a nice wing as I have done this many times over the years to use them up..
All the very best Davie
@@DavieMcPhail 👍
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🔥👍👍👏👏👏🤝🤝
It just that easy.
URGENT - Davie I have been contacted through your channel which I now believe is by SCAMMERS saying that I have won one of your prizes - I suggest that this is something you need to look into urgently.
Hi Alan,
I woke up this morning with an email from a friend from Australia asking if I was looking for him and that I had messaged him..I then found out that many that had been commenting on my videos had been messaged by a cloned channel of me asking for them to contact them..So straight away I blocked and reported the channel and as well spent a long time looking through many of my videos deleting them..So hopefully I have sorted this out though I do need TH-cam now to delete this made up account..Many thanks for getting in touch..
All the very best Davie
@@DavieMcPhail Hi again Davie,
I am still wondering about the SCAM - do you think it is worth you posting a short video warning your fans (subscribers) that if they receive an email asking them to contact you using 'Telegram' app they should ignore the message? Cheers. Alan.
Hi Alan, Just to let you know I just posted a video warning everyone about the fake channel, I should have done this sooner so thank you for encouraging me to do this...All the very best Davie..
Hi Davie, I've been enjoying your videos for a long time. A QUESTION: are the Veniard small bronze shoulder packs suitable for wet wings around size 6? Thanks