The “synchronized swimming’ is dead on. I just can’t get into a lot of these recent acclaimed matches, it’s just so obviously a spot fest where dudes are literally just visibly waiting for the next move
I legitimately haven't enjoyed a match outside of a few wwe ppv matches in like 2-3 years Can't pinpoint what it is but a lot of matches feel too slow (no I don't need flippy stuff), and way too may matches take place outside the ring around the fans. I know it's to rile them up to make things more lively but it is the WORST to me as an at home viewer I feel like AEW is way too heavy on outside ring stuff, and WWE too heavy on slow pace. I don't mean rest holds or selling taking too long, I mean a lot of guys will do a move and then just stare at each other
What grinds my gears is taking your eyes off the opponent, like in that running "scene" where they just lightly push each others past, and look away towards the ropes which they're going to run towards...
Most, if not all, if these so called classics will be spoken about in ten years. Yet we will still all marvel at the Bret vs Austins, Hogan vs Andres, Michaels vs Taker and Angle vs Benoit etc etc
Boy, what a crossover, professional wrestling & the Howard stern show. Never thought I'd see a Jackie Martling reference in a wrestling related video. Bravo
I started a company earlier this year that, in short, means I've got podcasts playing nonstop as I work. In no particular order, they are Alex O'Connor, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and... Kevin Nash (among others). Biologists, neuroscientists... wrestler. Ha. This sounds backhanded but I don't mean it that way. I mean it as a compliment. I don't always agree with the dude but his opinions are his own, well-articulated, and sarcastic enough to never be boring.
The fact that sarcasm is something you look for in what you listen to is a red flag. Also, Sam Harris is so dull and uninteresting, I commend your attention span to listen to someone that must have an allergy to being interesting.
Meltzer is biased no doubt. I once asked him which arena was bigger Oracle Arena (Oakland) or SAP Center (San Jose). Of course he chose the arena by his house lmao!
Mysterio had many moves that were counters. Being in a defensive situation, doing a handstand, into an arm drag. Now, you see people in an offensive position, pick a guy up, hold his hand, and jump on every rope for 15 seconds, just to do the same arm drag. It's all stunts now. Mysterio had reasons for his moves, so much of today is risking your life to inflict minor damage, as long as you stick the landing.
@@liquidgeorge course not. when you're of the mindset (or lackthereof) that modern wrestling is an acceptable form of entertainment, bs like what's in the video is the norm.
Nash needs to understand that Ricochet does what he does bc of his size. Its the best utilization of his skill set. I get where he is coming from though. More psychology less risk! Use the risk is key spots to gain an advantage or lose it once in a while NOT the entire match. I get it.
Because you have enough people talking that were actually in the business talking about X and the more you hear the same story from people who were actually there and the more their stories match and Dave's don't it's pretty easy to see while Dave likes the business he isn't a journalist in the way the average person views a journalist or even a beat writer, or columnist.
Yo ... Lmfao ... Yo big Kev. Next time I'm in a bar fight I'm gonfor a suplex of the bar then tell my boy to hit the frog splash .. that shit would be epic !! Yo if some other dude busted out a 450 I would piss myself
I agree with Nash 100%. Wrestling is best when it looks real. Lucha isnt to my taste, but when its done right (Rey, Eddie etc.) it looks real and it looks like its for a reason. Modern day flippy shit is just spectacle with no psychology and it looks fake as fuck.
I saw a clip of Undertaker talking about Shawn Michaels. I'm paraphrasing here but he said that, while the high flying stuff that was great and set him apart from other people on the roster, he looked believable when it came to just throwing punches in the ring. He looked like he could fight.
Everyone time comes to an end. Bob Costas is one of the greatest journalists of all-time and he recently retired. A terrible post-season was evident. However, time will remove his last run, and we will remember him of his greatness. Meltzer is a caricature of himself. His ego won't let him retire. He has that I'm smarter than you aura.
The only difference between those 2 pieces of footage beyond the final flip pose was fluidity. But the womens looked almost as good. Just needs a little work on it.
I agree with Nash on the political bs needs to stop. In my opinion the presidential B's is blown way out of proportion. I disagree with his views on believability since the fact is having a cruiserweight beat a giant is so far passed believability based on his standards. Here is the difference people watch wrestling because they enjoy it people don't watch it thinking could this really happen. There is a reason why WWE use to have disclaimers that said please don't try this at home they are trained professionals
When Meltzer denoted that he likes NJPW above every other promotion, ok you can buy that argument since that's his personal taste, nothing wrong with that.. but when he started to side with AEW, so unscrupulously biased, that he diminished a man's life, there's nothing else to value about Dave at all, he's just an existing entity..
@@zakjaggs9761 Umm I dunno how about the 100's of 5 star matches he's given them but everyone else he's more critical of & the guy has never been in a fkn ring, he's a fan who thinks he knows everything about the business & he doesn't is why nobody wanted to touch him until he got his lil break with Tony Khan but that's only bc Tony thinks he knows everything like the rest of the Meltzer flock! Why you think the product has been so bad!
It makes no sense why so many people hate or love Meltzer. He's literally just giving his opinion as a fan and someone who loves wrestling. He's no different than a movie critic giving his opinion on movies. Are the critics always right? It depends on your perspective. But not everyone agrees and just because Rotten Tomatoes says a movie is great doesn't mean they're going to be agreed upon by all fans. Same thing with Dave
The thing he also built his reputation on was being a journalist that can report on the news and much of what he reported on in the past has many times had holes punched through by those actually there.
You're miles off, giving something 5 stars that's so obviously fake botched gymnastics isn't what meltzer made his name doing, he used to call wrestling for all its good and bad and didn't take sides
@@jonathanheywood5482I don't actually agree with that. If you look back at his match reviews even 30 years ago he was always more into Hawt Moovz than anything else.
I’ve said it before and i will say it each and every time.. Why does Dave get the pedestal that he’s been given? Why is his “star system” so important? Hes never been in a wrestling match let alone a ring but yet his opinion means so much, and it pisses me off .
Why do some people need to monologue about how they don't have a problem with this goof and he's been covering wrestling for so long and yada yada fuckin yada just to say he's full of shit? We all know it. Don't soften the blow, just call him out for what he is.
We already have a terd soup of an economy. Nash is living life as a rich man who is out of touch. The economy was great under Trump and hopefully it will be again
@agwtaw2 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm sorry I'm usually nice, but this is a special of stupid. We were in a borderline depression under Obama. Either you're lying on purpose or high as hell
No it wasn't. A little ironic your one criticism of Nash is "rich man is out of touch". Trump's not gonna take pity on you because you said nice things about him, he's gonna impose tariffs you and me are going to have to pay for, dumbass.
A little ironic to say "Nash is living life as a rich man who is out of touch" when talking about Trump. I cannot call you a stupid butt because of community standards. But I probably can tell you your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Trump's going to impose tariffs on foreign trade which aren't going to impact the big corporations, they're going to raise prices on people like us. And none of his plans get any of us more money. So you're just simping for a geriatric, demented moron who is going to make your life worse.
Dave's a multi millionaire for never taking a bump. You're one too Nash but you can barely move these days & you took no dives or high risks in the ring
Meltzer attacking dutch mantell over a go fund me to cover his and his wifes medical expenses is low. What is wrong with that guy
He's a weird nerd with an outsized voice
Specially when he said un his trash articule "Many have pointed how Dutch has talk bad about Tony company"
Who is he talking about when he said "Many"
@@Syfcobra8549 three people, dave, david, and davie.
Fairly certain he's autistic. Means reading the room is beyond him. Not a justification but he's not capable of ordinary communication.
That's what I thought this was
I dont know why but just hearing Nash saying the word "Dragonball Z" was really funny to me 😂
Kevin has ascended even further beyond
I didn't think he'd even know what it was 😂😂
I’m surprised he knows what it is 😆 shows you how big it was in the 90s
@@dankestranch8738 I’m gonna guess his son Tristan was into it RIP
The “synchronized swimming’ is dead on. I just can’t get into a lot of these recent acclaimed matches, it’s just so obviously a spot fest where dudes are literally just visibly waiting for the next move
I legitimately haven't enjoyed a match outside of a few wwe ppv matches in like 2-3 years
Can't pinpoint what it is but a lot of matches feel too slow (no I don't need flippy stuff), and way too may matches take place outside the ring around the fans. I know it's to rile them up to make things more lively but it is the WORST to me as an at home viewer
I feel like AEW is way too heavy on outside ring stuff, and WWE too heavy on slow pace. I don't mean rest holds or selling taking too long, I mean a lot of guys will do a move and then just stare at each other
WWE pace is way too slow @Parallelocam
What grinds my gears is taking your eyes off the opponent, like in that running "scene" where they just lightly push each others past, and look away towards the ropes which they're going to run towards...
Most, if not all, if these so called classics will be spoken about in ten years. Yet we will still all marvel at the Bret vs Austins, Hogan vs Andres, Michaels vs Taker and Angle vs Benoit etc etc
Dave Meltzers room is what I assume Jackie Martlings Jokeland looks like
‘It was a 5-star match Howard….which is also how many stars Beth’s been with since her vacation with Stamos WAAHAA’
This is a deep cut
Jetty
Ta ta toothy.
Fla fla flohi.
Mah mah monkey.
Ha.
Boy, what a crossover, professional wrestling & the Howard stern show. Never thought I'd see a Jackie Martling reference in a wrestling related video. Bravo
Always had a problem with Meltzer
Dragon Ball Z finish 😂. Kevin has no respect for Dave.
@@Leistt of course they were
Dave Meltzer going after the GoFundMe for Dutch Mantell and his wife's medical bills because Dutch criticized AEW is a weird one
Thanks!
David Meltzer has no life
Big Sexy the John Wayne Gasy analogy 👌
Gacy,but yeah 😂
Kevin making a John Wayne Gacy reference was not on my bingo card today
"I never had a problem with Dave"
Original.
Thanks guys!
"You know, I never really had a problem with Dave."
I started a company earlier this year that, in short, means I've got podcasts playing nonstop as I work. In no particular order, they are Alex O'Connor, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and... Kevin Nash (among others). Biologists, neuroscientists... wrestler. Ha. This sounds backhanded but I don't mean it that way. I mean it as a compliment. I don't always agree with the dude but his opinions are his own, well-articulated, and sarcastic enough to never be boring.
The fact that sarcasm is something you look for in what you listen to is a red flag.
Also, Sam Harris is so dull and uninteresting, I commend your attention span to listen to someone that must have an allergy to being interesting.
@@priestfan81 "If it sounds good to you, it's bitchin'; if it sounds bad to you, it's shitty." -- Frank Zappa
05:42
Sean: "It was a fun 10 minutes.."
Nash: "But it was still a car crash!"
YT: *cut to ad on car insurance*
Hahahaha!!
wtf are they doing?! It looks like a choreographed dance😂
I'm surprised Meltzer hasn't been physically assaulted yet
Meltzer is biased no doubt. I once asked him which arena was bigger Oracle Arena (Oakland) or SAP Center (San Jose). Of course he chose the arena by his house lmao!
Oracle is bigger by 3,000 people
From this clip; the girls from NXT looked better to me.
😮Performance centre helps
Dave is a ding dong man..💯
No way Meltzer is not on AEW's payroll. Either that or he's just a WWE hater
What would Dave Metzer rate this interview & where can I get a @Kliqthis tee shirt???
***1/4
Meltzer has lost the plot.
Dragon ball Z finish 😂😂😂
Mysterio had many moves that were counters. Being in a defensive situation, doing a handstand, into an arm drag. Now, you see people in an offensive position, pick a guy up, hold his hand, and jump on every rope for 15 seconds, just to do the same arm drag. It's all stunts now. Mysterio had reasons for his moves, so much of today is risking your life to inflict minor damage, as long as you stick the landing.
Love the references to Danny Padilla and Lee Priest...
Dragonball Z finish😂
Modern wrestling is so fucking stupid.
So go away then
Dude that clip was genuinely
embarrassing. That the kinda shit I wouldn’t want to be caught watching
@@grant1739 with a thought process like that, I'd bet your single mom bottle-fed you bleach.
@@grant1739Do you not cringe at that though?
@@liquidgeorge course not. when you're of the mindset (or lackthereof) that modern wrestling is an acceptable form of entertainment, bs like what's in the video is the norm.
So, that last minute or so didn't really age well, did it?
Both spots were dog shit, I hate Osgay & Ricogay.
Nash making a DBZ reference is hilarious 😂
Awesome video!
Throwback, Kev! We have a clear cut winner.
Nash needs to understand that Ricochet does what he does bc of his size. Its the best utilization of his skill set. I get where he is coming from though. More psychology less risk! Use the risk is key spots to gain an advantage or lose it once in a while NOT the entire match. I get it.
Meltzer is getting less polarizing these days
Cuz now everybody has an opinion
He made a comeback on the Vince McMahon documentary
Because you have enough people talking that were actually in the business talking about X and the more you hear the same story from people who were actually there and the more their stories match and Dave's don't it's pretty easy to see while Dave likes the business he isn't a journalist in the way the average person views a journalist or even a beat writer, or columnist.
Less polarising in that 90% of people realise he's full of shit
Meltzer is now a lolcow hall of famer.
Yo ... Lmfao ... Yo big Kev. Next time I'm in a bar fight I'm gonfor a suplex of the bar then tell my boy to hit the frog splash .. that shit would be epic !! Yo if some other dude busted out a 450 I would piss myself
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I agree with Nash 100%. Wrestling is best when it looks real. Lucha isnt to my taste, but when its done right (Rey, Eddie etc.) it looks real and it looks like its for a reason. Modern day flippy shit is just spectacle with no psychology and it looks fake as fuck.
I saw a clip of Undertaker talking about Shawn Michaels. I'm paraphrasing here but he said that, while the high flying stuff that was great and set him apart from other people on the roster, he looked believable when it came to just throwing punches in the ring. He looked like he could fight.
We all hate meltzer....
Everyone time comes to an end. Bob Costas is one of the greatest journalists of all-time and he recently retired. A terrible post-season was evident. However, time will remove his last run, and we will remember him of his greatness. Meltzer is a caricature of himself. His ego won't let him retire. He has that I'm smarter than you aura.
I wish Nash would comment on Meltzers comments on Dutch
Are Kevin Nash's quads ok?
That’s really weird, sexualising a man’s body parts
@SaudiGod huh?
Fuck I haven’t heard that one before!
Ol' marble mouth Meltzer is living proof that cte is contagious.
Ha.
Meltzer the highest paid mark in the history of wrestling
The only difference between those 2 pieces of footage beyond the final flip pose was fluidity. But the womens looked almost as good. Just needs a little work on it.
"Venerable"? Agree to disagree
So, Sean respects Meltzer for not having a life lol
Every time I see a video here "Kevin Nash on [name]" I expect him saying "Never had a problem with [name]" xD
Yes... All media has gone to slanted shit.
I mean its not great that they couldnt come up with anything so they ripped a whole match, but to be fair aew does that on a weekly basis
I agree with Nash on the political bs needs to stop. In my opinion the presidential B's is blown way out of proportion.
I disagree with his views on believability since the fact is having a cruiserweight beat a giant is so far passed believability based on his standards.
Here is the difference people watch wrestling because they enjoy it people don't watch it thinking could this really happen.
There is a reason why WWE use to have disclaimers that said please don't try this at home they are trained professionals
When Meltzer denoted that he likes NJPW above every other promotion, ok you can buy that argument since that's his personal taste, nothing wrong with that.. but when he started to side with AEW, so unscrupulously biased, that he diminished a man's life, there's nothing else to value about Dave at all, he's just an existing entity..
40 years just writing his opinions and spreading gossip. That amount of timeband he still doesn't know a damn thing about it!!!
Still got the hat, Kev? 😂
Nash is still bitter about that interview he did, where Meltzer pressed him on the summer of 92 incident
😂😂😂
Meltzer has become so cringe, I'm just waiting for the day Alvarez just throws in the towel and shuts down cause he can't deal with it anymore
I'm sorry Nash...
America has let you down.
those girls on nxt are doing it better than whoever it is on the bottom video 😂
🕵️♀️
Meltzer is a bad Wrestling Analyst & he's fkn biased to NJPW so that should be enough to take what he says with a fat grain of salt!🙄
how is he biased
@@zakjaggs9761 Umm I dunno how about the 100's of 5 star matches he's given them but everyone else he's more critical of & the guy has never been in a fkn ring, he's a fan who thinks he knows everything about the business & he doesn't is why nobody wanted to touch him until he got his lil break with Tony Khan but that's only bc Tony thinks he knows everything like the rest of the Meltzer flock! Why you think the product has been so bad!
His hat is a piece of crap!!
It makes no sense why so many people hate or love Meltzer.
He's literally just giving his opinion as a fan and someone who loves wrestling. He's no different than a movie critic giving his opinion on movies.
Are the critics always right? It depends on your perspective. But not everyone agrees and just because Rotten Tomatoes says a movie is great doesn't mean they're going to be agreed upon by all fans.
Same thing with Dave
The thing he also built his reputation on was being a journalist that can report on the news and much of what he reported on in the past has many times had holes punched through by those actually there.
You're miles off, giving something 5 stars that's so obviously fake botched gymnastics isn't what meltzer made his name doing, he used to call wrestling for all its good and bad and didn't take sides
@@jonathanheywood5482I don't actually agree with that. If you look back at his match reviews even 30 years ago he was always more into Hawt Moovz than anything else.
So how come the video where you all bashed Trump had the comments turned off? Seems you're afraid of free speech and honest discourse.
Which video? There are dozens
I don't get Dave, he has enough jabroni marks to line his pockets for the rest of his life and he chooses to do this nonsense. Get well soon Dutch!
The ladies of NXT should be praised for putting on a watchable match on that show
You can only "distend" your beliefs, Kevin?
I’ve said it before and i will say it each and every time.. Why does Dave get the pedestal that he’s been given? Why is his “star system” so important? Hes never been in a wrestling match let alone a ring but yet his opinion means so much, and it pisses me off .
Why do some people need to monologue about how they don't have a problem with this goof and he's been covering wrestling for so long and yada yada fuckin yada just to say he's full of shit? We all know it. Don't soften the blow, just call him out for what he is.
Midnight on Tuesday look who won.
voting is as much of a work as wrestling .... the finish is rigged lol
Lol he said no one on Tuesday at midnight would know who won. I guess he was right. We know like at 8 or 9 that trump won 😂
Meltzer sucks
We already have a terd soup of an economy. Nash is living life as a rich man who is out of touch. The economy was great under Trump and hopefully it will be again
He inherited the strongest economy under Obama, Biden inherited the end of trump's awful economy during COVID 😅😅
@agwtaw2 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm sorry I'm usually nice, but this is a special of stupid. We were in a borderline depression under Obama. Either you're lying on purpose or high as hell
No it wasn't. A little ironic your one criticism of Nash is "rich man is out of touch". Trump's not gonna take pity on you because you said nice things about him, he's gonna impose tariffs you and me are going to have to pay for, dumbass.
A little ironic to say "Nash is living life as a rich man who is out of touch" when talking about Trump. I cannot call you a stupid butt because of community standards. But I probably can tell you your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. Trump's going to impose tariffs on foreign trade which aren't going to impact the big corporations, they're going to raise prices on people like us. And none of his plans get any of us more money. So you're just simping for a geriatric, demented moron who is going to make your life worse.
Dave's a multi millionaire for never taking a bump. You're one too Nash but you can barely move these days & you took no dives or high risks in the ring
Wut?
Idk if Dave has ever been on the inside of a barrier before.
Lol so much for that midnight comment 😂 because we deff knew about the land side victory by midnight lol😂
trump 2024
8 mins in already hasn’t aged well. 🇺🇸
Trump just gaped Big Kev not unlike that fateful night back in '92
Meltzer thinks every aew match is 20 stars😂😂😂
TRUMP 2024 MAGA
Millwall fan
Nazi