She was only good when we had so few characters. Everyone with a brain knew she would be powercrept as the game matured with a bigger character roaster.
eventually all character like Acheron, FF & Aveturine will get powercreep. even now still had no regret rolling for SW. prefer playing with favourite character rather than keep following meta.
All Silverwolf needs is a very strong quantum DPS and she'll be right back on top of the meta with the mono quantum team. It's basically Seele/QQ/Xueyi's fault that she's not being used right now.
@@beanswater Big ass cap, her being single target and too reliant on her skill is her own problem, if the next big quantum dps is good it won't be single target dps, even if they were hunt like Feixiao the problem comes from SW.
10 Timeless Characters (in my own opinion). 1. Ruan Mei - From generalist support to mainstay in the Break meta. 2. Robin - Mainstay in the FUA meta. 3. Aventurine - OP sustain who will be tough to powercreep. 4. Topaz - From a gimmicky playstyle that becomes the meta. 5. Boothill - Underrated but very strong DPS with a lot of futureproof. 6. Himeko - A mainstay in Pure Fiction but also has taken advantage of both the FuA and Break meta. 7. Gallagher - The strongest 4 star. 8. Pela - She hasn't really fallen off because her DEF Shreds are too powerful. 9. Herta - Pure Fiction carry 10. Firefly - The DPS that's been thriving for so long.
@@fazx9696 I wish that was true, rappa is pretty future proof, but firefly has high single target and decent AOE damage, plus she has weakness implant
Topaz is only useful for Fei and even there she’s replaceable, would say she effectively has been replaced. At higher teammate investment Fei also prefers jq because he amps more and buffs the rest of the team while Topaz doesn’t. Also think it’s Fair to say Ruan is good for break, but currently 50%+ teams use Robin as their bis support even if they don’t have follow ups.
About Gallagher, I don't have a Break Team and he is still a beast, the heals are good enough to keep everyone topped, the cleanse is also extremely good, and his heals being tied to his ultimate means that he is very SP positive for Jing Liu/Dan Hil teams, Extremely free to play friendly as well. Def my 4* MVP.
Okay watching the video and will see what I got: E6 Tingyun with 2.7k atk E6 Pela whom I use now with Acheron E2 Gallagher he hates me E0 Fu Xuan whom I used for the longest time E1S1 Aventurine whom I never took off my teams/use him as a DPS E1S1 Acheron whom I got this banner and she’s amazing E1 Topaz (I wanna get her LC someday) E0 Huohuo whom I barely use because I barely use DOT/Argenti E0 Ruan Mei and Robin
• Pela - she was cool but sadly got benched to PF spot only (maybe) • Tingyun - build her only for PF team with 163 speed on S2 DDD) • Gallagher - 2nd best healer for now & just need 1 more eidolons for E6 • Fu Xuan - my best sustainer until now • Aventurine - just recently got him after LC came early • Acheron - probably the biggest mistake when rolling for her since I didn't even use her at all for AS / PF / MOC • Topaz - now back to slowly farming her relics • Huohuo - skipped her (doesn't have any 5* limited abundance) • Robin & Ruan Mei - no comment (need more new harmony - maybe nope)
Ruan Mei is the best support, but exclusively for Break and CRIT amplifier teams. Has easy to use skill to ult mechanic than Robin, and is actually usable with 4-star LCs primarily Memories of the Past and Dance Dance Dance. Ruan Mei has been clapping metas from QueenLiu to Break DPS characters, seriously its going for a year now and she hasn't seen any serious decline than most DPS characters.
Any person, who listed Topaz as somewhat immune to powercreep - delulu, she already powercrept by March 8 in Fei team and by Moze in Ratio team. Keep pretending you didn't waste pulls on her, nuff said.
• Pela, she was cool, benched ever since i got jiaoqiu (158 spd on eagle/vonwacq) • Tingyun, she’s annoyingly still e4. I still try to use her (2.7k atk 178 spd on s5 ddd) • Gallagher, he was fun, benched ever since i got lingsha (150 SPD 3000 atk) • Fu Xuan, probably my least used sustainer (since i had luocha longer) so to revive her i built critxuan (6.5k hp on spd boot, 7.7k on hp boot, 71/111 crit + 28 in battle off disciple and her ult. could be optimised a tonne more. On sp positive team, she can just spam skill so each 2 turns she gets ult). • Aventurine, undoubtedly my most used sustainer coz of acheron. grabbed e2 on debut. (4k+ def, 90 c.rate in battle/188 c.dmg out. on diver and salsatto) • Acheron, will probably always be my best dps, e6’d on debut (80c.rate in battle/263 c.dmg out. 3.9k atk). • Topaz, skipped her. Nice ass tho. Didnt care for the premium ratio team or feixiao team. • Huohuo, skipped her. Since at the time i already had luocha, aventurine, gallagher and fu xuan. Nor did i invest in dot or yunli. • Ruan Mei, the fact i started 1 patch after rm debut, i was salty, so on rerun i e1s1 (slowmei, 120 spd on vonwacq 243% BE). So far is the only character i prefarmed everything for. Sunday is my 2nd. • Robin, e0s1’d her on debut, e6’d her on rerun. Busted. (4k atk on phys orb/regen rope, 4.4k atk on phys orb/atk rope).
I don't know how do people actually still use acheron. I feel like recently, it wasn't the new enemies that got harder for acheron, but it was my acheron who got nerfed. When i got acheron, with a pretty normal build and team, i would do like 300-400k to 3 enemies, consistently. But know i have even improved her build and team, but for some reason i barely do like 200k to 5 enemies. I don't even know how is it humanly possible for her damage number to just be lower for absolutely no reason. Like my DHIL does more damage and clears faster. My OG FuA team with ratio topaz aventurine sparkle (i used to have ruan mei there but she's with firefly now so my best option is sparkle to buff ratio. And no i dont have robin) does more damage and clears faster than acheron even in some AoE scenarios
I always see topaz in these kinds of lists when she's not even better than her 4 star counterparts like march and moze. Especially march. Topaz is clunkier because of numby's auto targetting at the start of waves, isn't really a damage increase without vertical investment as march's buffs by their nature work in multitarget scenarios that allow you to split your damage, and that said vertical investment on topaz doesn't fix her clunkiness Yeah she's not bad regardless of these points, but I wouldn't call her timeless when most feixiao clears on the internet use march over her because of consistency
@juan.argueta yeah she's good but I still disagree Yeah she does and enables more damage against a st enemy especially with vertical investment (as you said you have s1), her gameplay issues are still there. Hoolay is such a sellout boss for both feixiao and topaz yet I still see people use march more. Most of my friends with topaz default to march because of consistency as well. And march is a free unit competing with a limited 5 star. I somewhat agree on moze tho
@white5597 even before hoolay i remember doing a dual comp with topaz, jin guan and ruan mei before 2.x patch, and she got even better with feixiao, and next when we get a summoner follow up dps she will continue to shine, thats why shes very future proof
Mine: 8. Pela? She hasn't gone down, and in fact gone up because of Acheron. 7. Herta. Kururin is too broken in PF. However she could be powercreep by 5 star herta, which is still herta, so... 6. Gallagher. SP positive, deals decent break damage, chonky heals. SP positive goes a long way. 5. Kafka. She makes other dot damage her own damage. Unless we get some exactly like Kafka but higher multipliers, and she has been very very timeless. 4. Topaz, she's been investing in victory since the start of the game and is a T0 sub-dps and support rn. PRobably will rise in value more if even more FUA units are released. 3. Aven. Sustain+damage will forever be useful. 2. Ruan Mei, although it might change if her buffs(specifically her skill) doesn't work on summons. 1. Robin. Girl is so broken she's used outside of FUA teams, and can even be played as a carry. Also team aa is just too useful. And Sunday could be in this group when he's released, in fact, as long as he's a summon buffer, he's gonna be pretty important as long as dps with summons exist. And they do already.
NOTHING CAN POWERCREEP MY BOI PHYSICAL TRAILBLAZER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I mean, bro has a really high multiplier 😆
uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Nah, Destruction Trailblazer easily beats out physical trailblazer. 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
@ oh yea mb g
I remember when people said that Silver Wolf was future proof, because every character in the game would always need her mechanic...
She was only good when we had so few characters. Everyone with a brain knew she would be powercrept as the game matured with a bigger character roaster.
eventually all character like Acheron, FF & Aveturine will get powercreep.
even now still had no regret rolling for SW.
prefer playing with favourite character rather than keep following meta.
All Silverwolf needs is a very strong quantum DPS and she'll be right back on top of the meta with the mono quantum team. It's basically Seele/QQ/Xueyi's fault that she's not being used right now.
@@beanswater Big ass cap, her being single target and too reliant on her skill is her own problem, if the next big quantum dps is good it won't be single target dps, even if they were hunt like Feixiao the problem comes from SW.
She's still good though? Perfect for Acheron with how many debuffs she can spew
10 Timeless Characters (in my own opinion).
1. Ruan Mei - From generalist support to mainstay in the Break meta.
2. Robin - Mainstay in the FUA meta.
3. Aventurine - OP sustain who will be tough to powercreep.
4. Topaz - From a gimmicky playstyle that becomes the meta.
5. Boothill - Underrated but very strong DPS with a lot of futureproof.
6. Himeko - A mainstay in Pure Fiction but also has taken advantage of both the FuA and Break meta.
7. Gallagher - The strongest 4 star.
8. Pela - She hasn't really fallen off because her DEF Shreds are too powerful.
9. Herta - Pure Fiction carry
10. Firefly - The DPS that's been thriving for so long.
Fireflop got powercreep by her own healer and himeko 🐧
Honestly Rappa has a way better future than firefly, I'd say she deserves the place
@@fazx9696 I wish that was true, rappa is pretty future proof, but firefly has high single target and decent AOE damage, plus she has weakness implant
Topaz is only useful for Fei and even there she’s replaceable, would say she effectively has been replaced. At higher teammate investment Fei also prefers jq because he amps more and buffs the rest of the team while Topaz doesn’t.
Also think it’s Fair to say Ruan is good for break, but currently 50%+ teams use Robin as their bis support even if they don’t have follow ups.
Gallagher with Quid is amazing energy generator. He is so versatile and I’m happy as I like him since the story and E6 him.
Tingyun getting powercrept already in next version lmao
Nah, Tingyun V2 is still there 😆
And so as Sparkle and Bronya
@@discreaminantBronya is still good with her extra turn but Sparkle? Yeah, not so sure about that...
Goddoggos next patch : heres why lingsha and jingyuan are among the timeless chars😂😂😂
I see Aventurine. AVENTURINE MENTIONED
About Gallagher, I don't have a Break Team and he is still a beast, the heals are good enough to keep everyone topped, the cleanse is also extremely good, and his heals being tied to his ultimate means that he is very SP positive for Jing Liu/Dan Hil teams,
Extremely free to play friendly as well.
Def my 4* MVP.
It's kinda funny that #9 is about to get powercept by 5* version of #10 on her best team.
How is fugue powercreepping pela?
@JM-lh4fk look up Acheron Fugue and you'll see. She even powercreeps Jiaoqiu.
@@beanswater i get it now
Okay watching the video and will see what I got:
E6 Tingyun with 2.7k atk
E6 Pela whom I use now with Acheron
E2 Gallagher he hates me
E0 Fu Xuan whom I used for the longest time
E1S1 Aventurine whom I never took off my teams/use him as a DPS
E1S1 Acheron whom I got this banner and she’s amazing
E1 Topaz (I wanna get her LC someday)
E0 Huohuo whom I barely use because I barely use DOT/Argenti
E0 Ruan Mei and Robin
• Pela - she was cool but sadly got benched to PF spot only (maybe)
• Tingyun - build her only for PF team with 163 speed on S2 DDD)
• Gallagher - 2nd best healer for now & just need 1 more eidolons for E6
• Fu Xuan - my best sustainer until now
• Aventurine - just recently got him after LC came early
• Acheron - probably the biggest mistake when rolling for her since I didn't even use her at all for AS / PF / MOC
• Topaz - now back to slowly farming her relics
• Huohuo - skipped her (doesn't have any 5* limited abundance)
• Robin & Ruan Mei - no comment (need more new harmony - maybe nope)
Remember, there is not such a thing as future proof in gachas. Characters will be relevant as long as the devs allows them to
Ruan Mei is the best support, but exclusively for Break and CRIT amplifier teams. Has easy to use skill to ult mechanic than Robin, and is actually usable with 4-star LCs primarily Memories of the Past and Dance Dance Dance. Ruan Mei has been clapping metas from QueenLiu to Break DPS characters, seriously its going for a year now and she hasn't seen any serious decline than most DPS characters.
Blade was the first person I broke and spent money on because a TH-camr told me he was future proof 😐
I can't see boothill getting powercrept do to his implant and constant 0 cycles in the past moc 12s.
Any person, who listed Topaz as somewhat immune to powercreep - delulu, she already powercrept by March 8 in Fei team and by Moze in Ratio team. Keep pretending you didn't waste pulls on her, nuff said.
Listing any dps in this list is a mid take
not really
@@truemono02yes really because powercreep exists and it’s worse among dps units
@@sittingcrowd912bruh they literally just explained why they wont get power crept
@@DylanBaman-lf7wz well he’s wrong. Acheron is not that special that she’s immune from powercreep. Heck, it’s already happening.
• Pela, she was cool, benched ever since i got jiaoqiu (158 spd on eagle/vonwacq)
• Tingyun, she’s annoyingly still e4. I still try to use her (2.7k atk 178 spd on s5 ddd)
• Gallagher, he was fun, benched ever since i got lingsha (150 SPD 3000 atk)
• Fu Xuan, probably my least used sustainer (since i had luocha longer) so to revive her i built critxuan (6.5k hp on spd boot, 7.7k on hp boot, 71/111 crit + 28 in battle off disciple and her ult. could be optimised a tonne more. On sp positive team, she can just spam skill so each 2 turns she gets ult).
• Aventurine, undoubtedly my most used sustainer coz of acheron. grabbed e2 on debut. (4k+ def, 90 c.rate in battle/188 c.dmg out. on diver and salsatto)
• Acheron, will probably always be my best dps, e6’d on debut (80c.rate in battle/263 c.dmg out. 3.9k atk).
• Topaz, skipped her. Nice ass tho. Didnt care for the premium ratio team or feixiao team.
• Huohuo, skipped her. Since at the time i already had luocha, aventurine, gallagher and fu xuan. Nor did i invest in dot or yunli.
• Ruan Mei, the fact i started 1 patch after rm debut, i was salty, so on rerun i e1s1 (slowmei, 120 spd on vonwacq 243% BE). So far is the only character i prefarmed everything for. Sunday is my 2nd.
• Robin, e0s1’d her on debut, e6’d her on rerun. Busted. (4k atk on phys orb/regen rope, 4.4k atk on phys orb/atk rope).
Number #10 Tingyun
*Kid named Sunday* : 🗿
Tingyun still gives more energy, its just that Sunday buffs DMG and Cdmg.
@Doflaminguard actually the advance forward that Sunday gives make the dps gain energy by those extra turns so he gives MORE energy than Tingyun
Putting firefly here but not boothill is insane
''Timeless'' the game is litteraly 1 year old, see you in 4 years
And they will all get powercrept in 3.X
Except RM and Robin 🗣️
I don't know how do people actually still use acheron. I feel like recently, it wasn't the new enemies that got harder for acheron, but it was my acheron who got nerfed. When i got acheron, with a pretty normal build and team, i would do like 300-400k to 3 enemies, consistently. But know i have even improved her build and team, but for some reason i barely do like 200k to 5 enemies. I don't even know how is it humanly possible for her damage number to just be lower for absolutely no reason. Like my DHIL does more damage and clears faster. My OG FuA team with ratio topaz aventurine sparkle (i used to have ruan mei there but she's with firefly now so my best option is sparkle to buff ratio. And no i dont have robin) does more damage and clears faster than acheron even in some AoE scenarios
How much do you want to bet that every character on this list will have been powercrept by the end of next year?
Welll all will bf
The day robin gets powercrept will be the day i quit this game
Don’t stay up for 20 hours.
I always see topaz in these kinds of lists when she's not even better than her 4 star counterparts like march and moze.
Especially march. Topaz is clunkier because of numby's auto targetting at the start of waves, isn't really a damage increase without vertical investment as march's buffs by their nature work in multitarget scenarios that allow you to split your damage, and that said vertical investment on topaz doesn't fix her clunkiness
Yeah she's not bad regardless of these points, but I wouldn't call her timeless when most feixiao clears on the internet use march over her because of consistency
Topaz is still better than march and moze, she was so good that they had to make 2 other characters with similar kit, mine is e0s1 and shes great
@juan.argueta yeah she's good but I still disagree
Yeah she does and enables more damage against a st enemy especially with vertical investment (as you said you have s1), her gameplay issues are still there.
Hoolay is such a sellout boss for both feixiao and topaz yet I still see people use march more. Most of my friends with topaz default to march because of consistency as well. And march is a free unit competing with a limited 5 star. I somewhat agree on moze tho
@white5597 even before hoolay i remember doing a dual comp with topaz, jin guan and ruan mei before 2.x patch, and she got even better with feixiao, and next when we get a summoner follow up dps she will continue to shine, thats why shes very future proof
@@juan.arguetaI think they gonna might to make a better version of Topaz in 3.x😅
@@juan.argueta”she very future proof”, yeah but that’s it when she was E1S1 lol, at E0S0 you can see the different there
🤨 why Gallagher must be 8 already I don't want to it's Ashley🙂💢
Actress and Gaga is a correct with the braking he's amazing Andrews and Gallagher ok okay😊
❤
meta players are so annoying smh
Mine:
8. Pela? She hasn't gone down, and in fact gone up because of Acheron.
7. Herta. Kururin is too broken in PF. However she could be powercreep by 5 star herta, which is still herta, so...
6. Gallagher. SP positive, deals decent break damage, chonky heals. SP positive goes a long way.
5. Kafka. She makes other dot damage her own damage. Unless we get some exactly like Kafka but higher multipliers, and she has been very very timeless.
4. Topaz, she's been investing in victory since the start of the game and is a T0 sub-dps and support rn. PRobably will rise in value more if even more FUA units are released.
3. Aven. Sustain+damage will forever be useful.
2. Ruan Mei, although it might change if her buffs(specifically her skill) doesn't work on summons.
1. Robin. Girl is so broken she's used outside of FUA teams, and can even be played as a carry. Also team aa is just too useful.
And Sunday could be in this group when he's released, in fact, as long as he's a summon buffer, he's gonna be pretty important as long as dps with summons exist. And they do already.