This seems to be a new cut & is at least 400 metres away from where I took a boat along the Teign back in 2023, which is the other side of the now huge quarry pool.
Thank you for making this video, which is very informative. This is yet another example of how our wetter and warmer climate, largely driven by human activity, is causing serious damage to our transport infrastructure. With the 2024 new Labour government cancelling the 'Restore your Railway' programme, I fear that Network Rail will not be able to prioritise the restoration of this dormant truncated branch line. I suppose that there is always hope...
Thank you for bringing us this footage I’m surprised it hasn’t captured more media attention shows the power of nature. Let’s hope someone repairs the damage.
Thanks for the footage, very interesting. This stretch of line forms part of the Moretonhampstead branch, built some 20 years before the Teign Valley line was opened and the Teign Valley line was technically a branch of the Moretonhampstead line.
In America, we had some historical flooding in Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee on Sept 27th. A 1 in 1000 year storm that had some rivers cresting at 30 ft high. Where I live, a creek down from us that's normally 15-20 ft wide was over 100 ft wide that day. We had close to 2000 landslides with Helene. It scoured rivers down to the bedrock. CSX runs along the river and it washed out so many places it's unbelievable, but they have already started rebuilding. Have hope the same will happen there! Flooding is horrifying and devastating. Stay safe!
I was the guard on what was currently the last train on the branch. Unless a freight customer wants to put any traffic back on the branch I really can’t see Network Rail repairing this. It also puts Heath Rails plans in jeopardy with its aim of restoring passenger services to the line.
The Stover canal lock at Teigngrace village was recently cleared out but has no lock gates. Ditto the tidal lock at the town (Jetty Marsh) end. The canal between those locks often carries storm surge river water. It can’t be good for the canal lining. There are plans to open the Teign Valley Rail line from Bovey Tracey to Newton Abbot. This new flood damage won’t help that cause.
I use this path regularly on my cycle rides, I saw the sign up this morning and decided to go down and have a look incase it just hadn't been taken down since the floods, to say i was shocked to see the damage is a understatement. Scary what mother nature is capable of, i'm left thinking can this even be prepared and if so at what cost? I looked for some pictures but then came across your video.
I hope to have a look again when the levels drop, lot of talk about the water in the new cut being incredibly deep, feel free to drop a comment if you can see the river base at any time.
Seemed to a be a bulldozer moving earth so maybe the breach can be filled and the path rebuilt once the flow ceases, could be a while though, early summer maybe.
That is some washout!!! I think another serious question is how much more damage will be incurred by following storms before any reinstallation plans have even been considered. Most certainly more floods like this will occur in the future. Would it even be possible to make the route flood proof given this evidence?? The Dawlish wall has been rebuilt presumably with current stormy conditions in mind. What about predicted sea level rise?? If Dawlish, or anywhere else were to be breached again how useful might this route be. I'm no engineer. I just listen to what is going on. Seems there are a great many if and buts to argued yet a while. Thanks for sharing a great video too. 👍👍👍
@@sandpit72 Humour is always good. If anyone is to blame then it's our own leaders and the money men, nothing happens without money now. Chemtrails, weather manipulation etc all proved yet smeared as just theories are the real culprits plus the fact we are entering a cooling period in Earths overall history. Sad to see such damage especially to historical railways considering the money spent.
Dang, well, there's another bit of History which has been quite possibly forever destroyed. In my opinion even if they did reinstate the line between Exeter and Newton Abbot, it would cost millions upon millions to get it up to todays standards, other than that it possibly would've been a good thing for the locals for where the line used to serve before 1958. From what I remember from 2014, there where propositions to reopen this line after the Dawlish incident correct? I'm only guessing that funds where never allocated towards the project due to other concerns.
I hope nope but would not be surprised. If they ever build a high speed line from Bristol down to Plymouth it will follow the A38 west of Exeter. If newton Abbot and the coastal towns want to be connected it will be via this route and a station at Heathfield.
I agree. If the main line West of Exeter is ever replaced, the coastal route to Newton Abbott and on to Torquay & Painton would still usefully serve both residents and holidaymakers. It would make no commercial sense to build a station at Heathfield for quicker connections to NA when changing at Exeter onto the Exmouth-Paignton service is available.
@@tonyburgess7773 The rock under the sea wall at Dawlish is quite soft. With a 0.5m rise in sea level sometime towards the end of the century it will become more expensive to maintain. I would not be surprised if it ends up as two branch lines. But we do not plan for the future and the Teign Valley Branch will be built on costing more in the long run.
Looking at the overgrowth it's been a long time sisce anything has been up there, any hope there might have been to reopen the line from Exeter as a Dawlish diversion has now gone forever.
Highest it reached was 3.43m on 24th December 2013 but broke it's record on Sunday 24th November 2024 of 3.58m high the River Teign
This seems to be a new cut & is at least 400 metres away from where I took a boat along the Teign back in 2023, which is the other side of the now huge quarry pool.
Has this damage been caused by the quarry removing land that had protected the rail line from flooding?
Thank you for the excellent footage. Last travelled on the line in 2012, 142 Farewell tour.
Thanks for taking and sharing the video.
Thank you for making this video, which is very informative.
This is yet another example of how our wetter and warmer climate, largely driven by human activity, is causing serious damage to our transport infrastructure.
With the 2024 new Labour government cancelling the 'Restore your Railway' programme, I fear that Network Rail will not be able to prioritise the restoration of this dormant truncated branch line. I suppose that there is always hope...
Thank you for bringing us this footage I’m surprised it hasn’t captured more media attention shows the power of nature. Let’s hope someone repairs the damage.
Thanks for the footage, very interesting. This stretch of line forms part of the Moretonhampstead branch, built some 20 years before the Teign Valley line was opened and the Teign Valley line was technically a branch of the Moretonhampstead line.
In America, we had some historical flooding in Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee on Sept 27th. A 1 in 1000 year storm that had some rivers cresting at 30 ft high. Where I live, a creek down from us that's normally 15-20 ft wide was over 100 ft wide that day. We had close to 2000 landslides with Helene. It scoured rivers down to the bedrock. CSX runs along the river and it washed out so many places it's unbelievable, but they have already started rebuilding. Have hope the same will happen there! Flooding is horrifying and devastating. Stay safe!
I was the guard on what was currently the last train on the branch. Unless a freight customer wants to put any traffic back on the branch I really can’t see Network Rail repairing this. It also puts Heath Rails plans in jeopardy with its aim of restoring passenger services to the line.
Feel sorry for the Stover canal trust, they lovingly restored a section of canal with a lock, hope it's not too bad.
The Stover canal lock at Teigngrace village was recently cleared out but has no lock gates. Ditto the tidal lock at the town (Jetty Marsh) end.
The canal between those locks often carries storm surge river water. It can’t be good for the canal lining.
There are plans to open the Teign Valley Rail line from Bovey Tracey to Newton Abbot. This new flood damage won’t help that cause.
Can anyone get the local clay quarry to rebuild that washed out land where the rail line got trashed? They have some huge machines.
interesting!! thanks for filming this!!
I use this path regularly on my cycle rides, I saw the sign up this morning and decided to go down and have a look incase it just hadn't been taken down since the floods, to say i was shocked to see the damage is a understatement. Scary what mother nature is capable of, i'm left thinking can this even be prepared and if so at what cost? I looked for some pictures but then came across your video.
I hope to have a look again when the levels drop, lot of talk about the water in the new cut being incredibly deep, feel free to drop a comment if you can see the river base at any time.
I cycle on that path regularly. I am devastated to see the damage caused by storm Bert.
I doubt it will be fixed anytime soon.
Seemed to a be a bulldozer moving earth so maybe the breach can be filled and the path rebuilt once the flow ceases, could be a while though, early summer maybe.
@sandpit72 I wonder what condition the path and railway line is in once you get over the level crossing by the MT Tums diner heading out to Stover.
That is some washout!!! I think another serious question is how much more damage will be incurred by following storms before any reinstallation plans have even been considered. Most certainly more floods like this will occur in the future. Would it even be possible to make the route flood proof given this evidence?? The Dawlish wall has been rebuilt presumably with current stormy conditions in mind. What about predicted sea level rise?? If Dawlish, or anywhere else were to be breached again how useful might this route be. I'm no engineer. I just listen to what is going on. Seems there are a great many if and buts to argued yet a while. Thanks for sharing a great video too. 👍👍👍
What about the new Hospital that was built just across towards Newton Abbot
Was the Tay Bridge disaster due to the climate crisis too? Serious question.
Wow when the sign said my flood that’s a tsunami😮
Unbelievable damage there
The beginning of the end of the World, as we know it.
@@sandpit72 Humour is always good. If anyone is to blame then it's our own leaders and the money men, nothing happens without money now. Chemtrails, weather manipulation etc all proved yet smeared as just theories are the real culprits plus the fact we are entering a cooling period in Earths overall history. Sad to see such damage especially to historical railways considering the money spent.
What a mess!!
And hight of water is unbelievable. Must of took a lot of force to shift all that ballast, does that line get any use now?
At one time I believe it was used to hold the Royal Train between duties if a member of the R Family was down that way.
Is that the section between Newton Abbot & Teigngrace level crossing?
Yep, that's my party spot destroyed
Dang, well, there's another bit of History which has been quite possibly forever destroyed. In my opinion even if they did reinstate the line between Exeter and Newton Abbot, it would cost millions upon millions to get it up to todays standards, other than that it possibly would've been a good thing for the locals for where the line used to serve before 1958. From what I remember from 2014, there where propositions to reopen this line after the Dawlish incident correct? I'm only guessing that funds where never allocated towards the project due to other concerns.
I think this is possibly the end for the Teign Valley Branch
I hope nope but would not be surprised.
If they ever build a high speed line from Bristol down to Plymouth it will follow the A38 west of Exeter. If newton Abbot and the coastal towns want to be connected it will be via this route and a station at Heathfield.
I agree. If the main line West of Exeter is ever replaced, the coastal route to Newton Abbott and on to Torquay & Painton would still usefully serve both residents and holidaymakers. It would make no commercial sense to build a station at Heathfield for quicker connections to NA when changing at Exeter onto the Exmouth-Paignton service is available.
@@tonyburgess7773 The rock under the sea wall at Dawlish is quite soft. With a 0.5m rise in sea level sometime towards the end of the century it will become more expensive to maintain. I would not be surprised if it ends up as two branch lines.
But we do not plan for the future and the Teign Valley Branch will be built on costing more in the long run.
Not just the railway line gone , trees, vegetation and both the cycle path and the canal towpath are destroyed
Correct but I've featured this video mostly on the railway line as its so unusual to see one swept away like this.
That's mad!!
That won't be repaired now, the Heathfield branch was only used for stabling the Royal Train which very rarely runs now.
Colas hauled some log trains in the last decade but sadly I think that is the end now for this branch
Looking at the overgrowth it's been a long time sisce anything has been up there, any hope there might have been to reopen the line from Exeter as a Dawlish diversion has now gone forever.
Climate crisis? No there isn't.
Weather warfare and man made to push the CC agenda . Sick world
Weather warfare and man made so they can push the CC agenda . Sick world.
There is, according to the gullible clowns.
Manmade weather warfare